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#1 ·
94 4.3.... coolant looked dirty

opened radiator cap, opened drain plug.
removed lower rad. hose

replaced thermostat+gasket
filled with prestone flush, rinsed 3 times, until water was clear.

Hooked everything back up and filled with coolant. top hose hot, lower hose hot but not as hot as upper.

10 minutes of idling top hose is rock hard(its a month old hose)
i used the funnel kit to bleed all air out, temp was all the way up to 260 on dash.

and no heat....i dont see how there could be an air bubble left. what else could cause that?
 

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#3 ·
Sounds like it was pretty nasty. Instead of a flush, you need a cleaner. You might consider removing the water pump and sticking a hose in both outlets and flush the block. Then use the cleaner as described on the bottle...usually 6 hours of run time. Get a flush and fill kit from Prestone and follow the directions...no burping, drilling holes inthe thermostat, or parking on an incline.
 
#4 ·
You have an air lock in the block. You fill the rad but air is trapped below the thermostat and it won't fill the block. The thermostat won't open because it has no hot coolant flowing across the bottom end. The result is it will overheat and the lack of heat in the heater confirms that the water pump is NOT pumping coolant through the system.

You can do one of two things.

You can remove the thermostat and fill the rad until coolant is flush with the thermostat opening and then install your thermostat and top up the rad. And then any time you open the cooling system, to replace a hose or whatnot, you repeat this.

or,

You can drill a 1/16" hole in the thermostat before you install it. Top up the rad and the air will be purged as you fill. Any time after that that the cooling system is opened you simply top up the. The tiny hole will not affect your cooling whatsoever. Imports have been doing this for decades. Many domestic thermostats come with a bleeder hole. I do this on ANY thermostat that doesn't already have a bleeder.

This ensures that you will NEVER have air trapped in the engine.

The thermostat on the left already has a bleeder hole, the one on the right I have drilled a hole.
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You may want to run a garden hose through your heater hoses to ensure the heater core is clear.
 
#7 ·
Try to stay away from using garden hose water. A lot of people make this mistake with the 4.3s and we'll pretty much any motor. When you use 50/50 it's cut with distilled water. Spend the 5.00 and get 5 gallon or so of distilled water AFTER you do a cleaner and flush.

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#8 ·
well i did the flush again, flushed heater core, got all the stuff out that i possibly could. did the hole in tstat, filled block up to tstat housing, then filled radiator, let idle for any air to go....filled with coolant and the distilled water and it still ended up going way passed the center mark. coolant was circulating so i believe pump is good, top hose was hot , bottom was hot, so i think the tstat is opening, no visible coolant leaks and my truck does not blow any smoke and oil is good. not sure what i could be missing here, seems like this should be a really basic job to fix but its not going right
 
#12 ·
every hose is hot. both heater hoses, upper and lower rad hose. top rad hose full of pressure. can barely squeeze. yes i flushed heater core, came in and went out. NO heat.......it ONLY does this BS when the thermostat is installed !!!!!!!!!! i dont want to drive without the tstat because after a long drive the coolant still gets hot and pours out. im pretty ticked off !!!!!
 
#15 ·
Just wondering how many cycles did it take you to bleed it all out? maybe i am just losing my patience each time i see the temp rising so quickly, should i wait a while each time and then keep topping off the system if need be? this is the only thing i havent done yet is continuously check after a while and refill if needed. HOW much coolant should the 4.3 get? right now im at 2.5 gallons
 
#17 ·
Are you asking me? If so, I use the flush and fill kit from Prestone. After the initial fill, I may have to add a pint or less. If your engine was full of crud, you may want to remove the plugs on the sides of the block and loosen junk up wit a coat hanger. It does't take much to plug up the passages.
 
#18 ·
Well i give up. did everything suggested and still same result. i flushed out motor and replaced with new coolant, there must be some major debre that i cant get , coolant brown already. any way, i thought i had it because i released some pressure on rad drain and it stayed right below the 210 mark. then went for a drive and zipped to 260, got home and coolant pouring out and i could hear it all boil up. thinking a head gasket leak causing the system to keep building up so much pressure.
 
#20 ·
A bad impeller can cause this and as cruddy as your system was it is a strong possibility. I would wager $100.00 (if I were a gambling man) that a water pump will fix this problem. Another thing to consider too, how is the clutch fan, and is the radiator clogged externally? Can you verify whether it has good airflow through the fins? These are also important things to consider.
 
#21 ·
radiator can be clogged internally since hes flushign all sorts of debris around. When you mix orange and green coolant together you get some nasty jello gunk that can very easily clog a radiator...Just because coolant moves from the inlet to the outlet doesnt mean its actually going thru all the tubes efficently.