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How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80

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#1 ·
Here is a little write up/explanation on how to swap your stock CS130D alternator for an AD244 alternator off of most of the full size trucks.

For those of you that NEED a bigger alternator, weather it be because of off-road accessories (winches, lights, etc) or because you need the extra amperage due to a bigger sound system, you would probably upgrade to an aftermarket alternator to meet your needs. Well, unless you are paying $300+ for a built alternator with a good stator and regulator put in, you will loose voltage at idle when you purchase the upgraded one. This is where most people have their concern, especially you off-road guys.

For example, when you put a 160 amp stator in a stock CS130D (4.3L) case, you will get the 160 amps, but only at about 1000 engine RPM's. Our 4.3L's idle at ~550-600, so the output is a lot less, voltage and amperage. I've found that my "built" CS130D only put out 45 amps and 12.8v at idle, when I needed a LOT more than that to keep my lights from dimming at idle.

So, our goal here is to get output (amperage and voltage) at idle as well as our required output at speeds greater than idle. With the AD244, you can have the best of both worlds.

*You can pick up a used AD244 alternator from your local junkyard for ~$40-$50, depending on mileage/condition*

The AD244 alternator came off of several full size pickups, from different years. There were two versions of the alternator made, a 130A version and a 145A version. You can call your local junkyard/salvage yard and ask them what it came off of, how many miles are on it, and what version it is (130A or 145A). Here is a link to everything you need to know (including what vehicles it came off of) about the AD244 (thank juddspaintballs for the link)

http://www.wai-wetherill.com/products/partimage.cfm?wai_num=1-2419-21DR

*The AD244 alternator will bolt right up to the stock alternator bracket on the 4.3L with NO modifications to the bracket. The only thing that is different is that you won't be using the 3rd bolt that is on the backside of the alternator. The CS130D has this, but the AD244 doesn't. You won't have any troubles with the bolt not being there.*

*The AD244 uses the same wire harness as the CS130D. It is a plug-and-play application.*

Now, I know what you guys are thinking..... "well dude, I need wayy more than 145 amps." That's what I was thinking too when I was doing this mod. I've got a decent sized sound system in the truck and some aftermarket fog lights on my safari bar, so I needed the extra amperage.

Bench tests have proven this alternator to put out 200+ amps at idle when cold. Yes, that's right, at idle.

When the alternator is warm it will easily put out 100 amps at idle,which is way better than the CS130D which is only capable of producing ~40 amps at idle.

It is a slightly underrated alternator (you audio guru's out there know what the term 'underrated' means and how it compares to the quality of a product). I can crank my system to the max and have no voltage issues with it when I'm at idle. I'll maintain a 14v and my lights don't dim.

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Now that you have the alternator, you'll be needing a longer belt. I can't say how long of a belt you'll be needing, but the stock one won't work. If you DO get the stock belt to work (some have) I STRONGLY don't recommend it. It will put a bigger strain on the bearings in the alternator and can cause premature failure. It's worth the extra $35 for a new belt.

*You will need a belt that is 1"-1.5" longer than stock. For some reason, the lengths of belts changed from year to year (even 98+) so you'll have to do a little bit of math and figure it out on your own :p *

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I also highly recommend doing the "Big 3" upgrade when doing the AD244 mod. Stock wiring CAN take the 200+amps that the AD244 puts out, but if you are having problems with it, then it is probably the wiring.

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Here are some pictures of my AD244 in action:

Output at idle with just my headlights on:

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Output at IDLE with my system cranked to the max:

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Output at IDLE with all accessories on (all 4 headlights [quad beam mod], a/c on MAX with fans at #3, fog lights, and my system cranked to the max:


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13.96 can be lower than most would like to be.... but a stock CS130D would be gasping for air if I was treating it like that.

So, if I had things my way, every s10/blazer would have an AD244 as their alternator, even if they have a stock electrical system.
 
#401 ·
ok just very curious about this my battery ground is in 3 spots. on is on the radiator support the second is on the wheel well i believe and the third is on the frame. and my engine ground goes right to the negative terminal. now my question is do i need the ground to the well and support and can i just ground the engine to the frame? i think i know the answer but im just double and triple checking
 
#405 ·
ok the battery is grounded to the wheel well and and the radiator support and the frame i was just wondering if it should be grounded anywhere but the frame which is most likely a no but whatever just figured id ask

and i got the ad244 in but its in a completely different case so maybe autozone will take it and i can get the right one from them..
 
#404 ·
Did anyone try it on a 95 4.3? I went to Advance Auto and I looked at one that was on the listed models and it looked like it would not work right. The mounting looked to be the same width, but on the one that is stock it has a through mounting bolt hole on one side and is threaded for the other bolt. The new one (02 Yukon) has through mounting on both sides, has a smaller pulley and the plug is on the other side. Am I missing something?

-Brett
 
#411 ·
IIRC, the 95 trucks also use the 3 bolt mounting system, you dont need that 3rd bolt on the back, just use the 2 through the bottom of the alternator case.
 
#406 · (Edited)
Installed the AD244 from an '04 Suburban (145A), along with the "Big Three" today (actually 4, if you count alt to Batt, Gnd for the engine, frame, and body). Except for the ***king frigid weather, it went together smoothly. My thanks to those that did the write-ups for these mods.:D
 
#420 ·
just answered in the other thread

Either one should work. the 180 amp alternator is probably a CS144 or 244 (I dont remember the specific model number)

IIRC its a good alternator, and if it is truely 180 amp, then it should work great, but I KNOW that the AD244 is a good alternator, the 180 amp alt from the 5.7 may be great as well, I just don't have any knowledge about it besides what you've told me.

being that its from a 5.7 it has the 90* block (same as 4.3 + 2 cylinders) and most everything externally and some internal is interchangeable
 
#426 ·
Correct me if I'm wrong but I found a site that has the Part # for the correct alternator as seen in the pic before the "145A". Just a heads up when making a J/Y run to make sure you get the right one.
AC DELCO
321-1845, 334-2529, 18000002

DELCO
10464476, 15200109,
15226003, 15754097,
15754097A, 15754097M,
15754097W, 15847291​
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#428 · (Edited)
wow really great thread i just got done reading the whole thing lol....i seen someone had grabbed an alternator that was from the saab 9-7x alternator and he had bolted it up i was wondering if this one that i found right here is a good one to buy? I have a 2001 Chevrolet blazer 4 door 4 wheel drive.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAAB-9-7X-NEW-Alternator-200AMP-05-06-5-3L_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem519025345fQQitemZ350310708319QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

thanks again b rich and all of the others who have put in feedback....as my factory alternator crapped out on me today i am need of a new one...as i am building my stereo system up...
 
#430 · (Edited)
and the 1 inch bigger belt would apply if i am correct? i just want to get everything and not miss it lol....

i also found this one that goes to a trail blazer

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-Trail-Blazer-NEW-Alternator-200AMP-2003-2004-5-3L_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem519023f7d7QQitemZ350310627287QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

they look to be the same ones.

then here is this ad244 that is a 250 amp
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e.../ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190371898157&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT
 
#433 ·
Looks good to me. Yeah I'm not sure on that 250A one. Almost looks to be aftermarket to me. I don't know of a 250A AD244 that came from the factory. If it is in fact aftermarket I'd be weary of idle output for only $200.

Let us know how things turn out conner, and yeah, a 1" longer belt should be fine. Might want to pick up a couple different sizes and see which fits the best, but it's up to you.

Good luck.

edit: I'll update the OP of this thread eventually lol.