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Do thermostats get stuck open??

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#1 ·
Here I am now driving my piece-o-crap blazer to work now, driving to tampa and back, about 120 miles a day. I have to fill up ever other day :rolleyes: . But I got bigger problems... also its a 91'

For starters my dash guages don't work (digitals) so I have no idea what the water temp is. Whenever there is cold weather (45F), it takes almost 20-30 minutes before I start getting warm air out the AC. Also in cold weather my truck never shifts into overdrive. Now I have read that the tranny (700R4) wont go into overdrive untill warm.

So I started thinkin... the tranny has coolant lines going to them (or atleast it looks that way), and the heater gets warm by the fluid aswell. Is it possible my thermostat isn't closing, causing the truck to never warm up??? What else could it be, or is this it??
 
#2 ·
there is a transmission oil cooler in one of the radiator tanks, there is transmission fluid running through those lines.

I would go buy an IR(infrared) thermometer. you can get them for around 40 and up. you can watch the temp of the thermostat housing.

anther thing to do is feel the upper radiator hose, it should be cold when first started up. and get hot rapidly after 7 minutes or so(about a minute between cold and too hot to hold with your hand)

I have ran into more stuck open thermostats than stuck closed
 
#3 · (Edited)
there is a transmission oil cooler in one of the radiator tanks, there is transmission fluid running through those lines.

I would go buy an IR(infrared) thermometer. you can get them for around 40 and up. you can watch the temp of the thermostat housing.

anther thing to do is feel the upper radiator hose, it should be cold when first started up. and get hot rapidly after 7 minutes or so(about a minute between cold and too hot to hold with your hand)

I have ran into more stuck open thermostats than stuck closed
I will look around for a temp guage like that. So you figure its the thermostat?? I will feel the hoses when i get home to see how warm it gets with my hand. Sorry for being too quick im at work.
 
#4 ·
Might as well try the thermostat anyhow, its like a $5 part and takes 20min to put in, not even,
 
#7 ·
Ok just changed it out, 20 minute job my ass lol. Took me around 1.5 hours, ended up breaking 2 ground wires that were attached under the bolt, they stuck to the bolt when I was taking the thermostat housing bolt off.

When I took the old one out, there was a 2mm gap where the stat was stuck open. Hopefully this should fix it.
 
#8 ·
Some stick open, some stick closed - it's a crapshoot. Autozone sells a "Fail Safe" thermostat that is designed to stick open when it fails. The idea is, of course, that if the thing fails at least you won't overheat your motor and you can still drive home (or even drive around with it as-is until you have time to swap it out).

However, every single one of these that I've ever used has always stuck wide open in less than 3 months. They should just remove the "Safe" part of the name and just call them "Fail Thermostats". The ONLY thermostats I've ever used that have never caused me problems is a Stant Superstat. Drill a 1/8" hole in one to bleed the air bubbles (unless you get one with a little bleeder valve already built into it), poke that sucker in there with a new gasket, and fugeddaboutit. :tup:
 
#9 ·
Crap I didn't put any hole in it, though its funny how everything I use to complain about is now fixed lol.

Now I have a normal idle at around 600rpm or so, and not 900 like I use to. I hit overdrive within 2 miles of my house tonight, which would have normaly took around 10 miles or so in this weather. And my heater worked in less then a couple minutes..

Crazy how a $5 part can cause so many problems, I am just glad I put it all together and relized all this stuff was linked to that. Thanks for all the help on the tip guys, once again yall have saved my butt from walking to work :p
 
#11 ·
u think that could cause shitty mpg on a 2001 s-10 with a 4.3? im gettin 10 mpg and cant figure out y ive replaced just bout everthin i can think of air filter sparkplugs o2 sensors exuast and its not gettin better and ive noticed my truck heats up but it seems like its only gettin to like 160ish
 
#12 ·
u think that could cause shitty mpg on a 2001 s-10 with a 4.3? im gettin 10 mpg and cant figure out y ive replaced just bout everthin i can think of air filter sparkplugs o2 sensors exuast and its not gettin better and ive noticed my truck heats up but it seems like its only gettin to like 160ish
That pretty cold. Im not 100% sure, but I think a cold motor runs richer, so you could be burning more fuel. Try it, it only cost me $10.
 
#15 ·
ya well im gettin a dtc but its sayin o2 sensor which ive replaced 3 times and maf or var sensor which ive tested by switchin it out wit a buddies which was a knowen good and same thing so im thinkin my trucks runnin to cold cuz ive noticed the temp doesnt get 2 were it should b cuz this my 6 s-10 and it normaly runs right under the 210 mark and im a couple marks under that
 
#19 ·
The Z-R2 get crappy gas mileage right from the door. The lift and 33s without a gear change won't help any.
 
#22 ·
33s shouldnt change the gas millage all the much i was runnin 31s on a stock 4cyl and was still gettin round 25 on the highway and bout 22 in the city
 
#25 ·
I was getting about 15mpg out of my 99 s10 4x4 4.3 and my temp was very low.
not sure how low, but guessing under 160.
Pulled the thermostat out that was in it and couldn't find a number to tell me what temp it was. Replaced it with stock 195 and now I am getting closer to 18mpg. I also cleaned the MAF screen at the same time, so not sure where the benefit came from. But I am not complaining.
oh, this truck has 146k miles on it.
 
#27 ·
I don't think it would matter much if you drilled a 1/16" or 1/8" bleeder hole in the t-stat. You just want a way for the air to pass through when it's closed so you don't have air stuck in the system and end up overheating. If you plug it it would defeat the purpose.

I just replaced my t-stat and I forgot to check it for a bleeder hole. Well it needs a little stronger coolant mix anyway so I guess I will have to check and see.
 
#28 ·
don't bother drilling the hole in it.
most thermostats already have an air purge notch
or hole in them, usually on the edge of the valve.
some newer ones even have a "floater" valve in them,
that opens the bleed only when air or steam is present
under it.