Let me start of by saying I was going to look into a DC-XXX line of compressors to get specs for forum peeps and this is how it went,
I waited 23 min for a real person to talk to.
I asked about specs for example the DC-8500 compressor.
He told me to hold after 8 min waiting on the phone listing to key strokes.
He said ok go ahead,
I asked what the CFM of the compressor is,
He said 1.23 @ 0 PSI
I asked is that suction CFM of discharge, or is it ACFM or SCFM. Is the 0 PSI the displacement or the 1 bar 14.7PSI ratting.
He said um... (Key strokes)... I am not allowed to say just that it is 1.23 at 0 PSI
So I asked your add boasts 3.6CFM at 160PSI
He said well that is the amount of air it consumes,
So I said ohh so that is suction flow... a non standord form of ratting a compressor.
He said well that is its output as well...
I asked do you manufacture the compressors or are they outsourced,
He said well we make parts for them.
I said well do you have a spec sheet I can get faxed to me?
He said we are not allowed to give out that information.
I asked can I speak with the individual or group that helped develop this compressor?
He said there are none.
(WTF??)
I said ok maybe you can help with a few more questions,
What is the max pressure of this compressor?
He said it is a 200 PSI compressor
I asked so I can continuously run it at 200 PSI?
He said umm no max running pressure is 120PSI
But never run it past 140PSI
<- puzzled
Hmm ok so it is a 200 PSI compressor you can't run past 140PSI but anything over 120 will burn it up?
He said. Yes that is correct.
ARGHHH!!! Lol
I ask so what is its duty cycle?
He said, I am not alowed to say that.
Me. that is a standord spec ratting all MFG. list in ther SPEC SHEET
< punches numbers into calculations while talking to him,
I say well from what I can tell your 100% duty compressor is only 100% duty at 60PSI
His response... where did you get that number it is off.
My response, I calculated it from the numbers you gave me.
His response well it is a 100% duty compressor.
I asked at what pressure?
He said at all pressures...
HA HA AH AH oh boy,
I respond. You do not really understand your product.
I said this,
From what I have gathered from you and your information,
This compressor is a off the shelf 100PSI .50HP air compressor that is %30 duty at 100PSI.
You attach a fan to the case to cool the motor, and then over drive it with larger connecting rod bearing. You make billet heads and fins to cool it off to gain duty cycle and then you run an inline oilier to maintain a higher pressure ratting. on ' oil-less compressor by design'
Let me guess if you run it on a 12 gal tank. At 145PSI,
You will seize the piston to the walls stress the housing and possible blow the head or burn the brushes on the motor to nothing or lock the bearing form over heating.
You know you over run and out spec your parts that is why you do not want to release the simple information that is STANDORD in any other compressor MFG> listings.
His response.
You do not know are product
Have a good day.
:rotf:
So yes... umm I do not know what to say,
Just want to share what I went through.
If any of you have any specs on these compressors please post I want to get as much info as possible to find the REAL ratings of these compressors.
Thanks.
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OFFICIAL COMPLAINT FORM FOR A PROBLEM YOU HAD WITH AIM.
I called the Attorney General of AZ and he stated that we all send in you problems via. An online form.
HE said in numbers we have the power to form a case against them.
So ANYONE who has ever had a problem with them I URGE you PLEASE please send in your problem,
The link is below,
THE LINK:>>>> http://www.azag.gov/consumer/complaintform.html
Click the instructions link (top of page) if you have any questions,
Info you need to fill out the form is below,
American Innovative Manufacturing
Or,
AIM Industries Inc.
260 S Hibbert
Mesa, AZ 85210
Joe Morrow joe@aimind.com
1-480-668-5448
IF you are a GUEST to this thread
E-mail me djd@landisusa.com
and I can post your comment.
Thanks.
Remember we have power in numbers :tup:
I waited 23 min for a real person to talk to.
I asked about specs for example the DC-8500 compressor.
He told me to hold after 8 min waiting on the phone listing to key strokes.
He said ok go ahead,
I asked what the CFM of the compressor is,
He said 1.23 @ 0 PSI
I asked is that suction CFM of discharge, or is it ACFM or SCFM. Is the 0 PSI the displacement or the 1 bar 14.7PSI ratting.
He said um... (Key strokes)... I am not allowed to say just that it is 1.23 at 0 PSI
So I asked your add boasts 3.6CFM at 160PSI
He said well that is the amount of air it consumes,
So I said ohh so that is suction flow... a non standord form of ratting a compressor.
He said well that is its output as well...
I asked do you manufacture the compressors or are they outsourced,
He said well we make parts for them.
I said well do you have a spec sheet I can get faxed to me?
He said we are not allowed to give out that information.
I asked can I speak with the individual or group that helped develop this compressor?
He said there are none.
(WTF??)
I said ok maybe you can help with a few more questions,
What is the max pressure of this compressor?
He said it is a 200 PSI compressor
I asked so I can continuously run it at 200 PSI?
He said umm no max running pressure is 120PSI
But never run it past 140PSI
<- puzzled
Hmm ok so it is a 200 PSI compressor you can't run past 140PSI but anything over 120 will burn it up?
He said. Yes that is correct.
ARGHHH!!! Lol
I ask so what is its duty cycle?
He said, I am not alowed to say that.
Me. that is a standord spec ratting all MFG. list in ther SPEC SHEET
< punches numbers into calculations while talking to him,
I say well from what I can tell your 100% duty compressor is only 100% duty at 60PSI
His response... where did you get that number it is off.
My response, I calculated it from the numbers you gave me.
His response well it is a 100% duty compressor.
I asked at what pressure?
He said at all pressures...
HA HA AH AH oh boy,
I respond. You do not really understand your product.
I said this,
From what I have gathered from you and your information,
This compressor is a off the shelf 100PSI .50HP air compressor that is %30 duty at 100PSI.
You attach a fan to the case to cool the motor, and then over drive it with larger connecting rod bearing. You make billet heads and fins to cool it off to gain duty cycle and then you run an inline oilier to maintain a higher pressure ratting. on ' oil-less compressor by design'
Let me guess if you run it on a 12 gal tank. At 145PSI,
You will seize the piston to the walls stress the housing and possible blow the head or burn the brushes on the motor to nothing or lock the bearing form over heating.
You know you over run and out spec your parts that is why you do not want to release the simple information that is STANDORD in any other compressor MFG> listings.
His response.
You do not know are product
Have a good day.
:rotf:
So yes... umm I do not know what to say,
Just want to share what I went through.
If any of you have any specs on these compressors please post I want to get as much info as possible to find the REAL ratings of these compressors.
Thanks.
------------------------------------------------------EDIT-----------------------------------------------------------------
OFFICIAL COMPLAINT FORM FOR A PROBLEM YOU HAD WITH AIM.
I called the Attorney General of AZ and he stated that we all send in you problems via. An online form.
HE said in numbers we have the power to form a case against them.
So ANYONE who has ever had a problem with them I URGE you PLEASE please send in your problem,
The link is below,
THE LINK:>>>> http://www.azag.gov/consumer/complaintform.html
Click the instructions link (top of page) if you have any questions,
Info you need to fill out the form is below,
American Innovative Manufacturing
Or,
AIM Industries Inc.
260 S Hibbert
Mesa, AZ 85210
Joe Morrow joe@aimind.com
1-480-668-5448
IF you are a GUEST to this thread
E-mail me djd@landisusa.com
and I can post your comment.
Thanks.
Remember we have power in numbers :tup:
