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sub box builder thats a stoopid moron

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#1 ·
ok, heres the deal. i have 54 inches in the back of my truck. i have 5 subs 4 audiobahn aw1051t. and i will be using 1 dub sub by audiobahn in the middle. the problem is i dont have enough room to make each sub an individual box. what should i do? Leave 1 big open space, thats bout all i can think of, but how will the sound be?
 
#27 ·
right now i have all six in seperate chambered boxes with .75 cu ft of space. ab recomends .5-1 so im not to bad in that category, and the db level of 2 is the same as when i had two in the ab ported encosure. I think im definetly going to rework my designs, i think for this yr im going to leave everything in the box and just worry about getting everything i need. I bought a small 200w 2 ch amp to split my bass into 3 sets of high level inputs, and for the 4 ch ill just run that off the old door speaker wiring.
 
#28 ·
You need to have the rated airspace for each sub. You will not be able to put 6 subs sharing a .75 cu box. The speakers will not be nearly as loud, sound as good, or be able to produce the low tones that a real box can. You would be better off building 3 seperate vented boxes, using 3 seperate but equal subs, and makeing the boxes all the recomended size. This will give better performance than the 6 in one setup, much better.
 
#29 ·
what the hell is wrong with you people? why the fock do you need 6 subs in a extended cab truck? I have one, ONE kicker comp vr 12" in my ex cab. Tuned right for sq, sounds great. Tune it up for spl, sounds like shit, but will rattle the fock out of anything. The point is, son, you dont need to have 6 subs to sound good. There is a kid like that at my school that thinks he is hot shit with his 5 12s. me and my friend roll by and show people what bass is supposed to sound like, then the kid looks like an ass. The more subs you have doesnt mean yours is gonna be louder, or hit harder, its prolly just gonna do the opposite and sound like complete ass.
 
#30 ·
audioholic said:
The voltage is not cut in half when you run Y splitters.

Dont run different subs. If you're doing it for the sound and output performance, it will sound worse and likely not be as loud as if you ran all of one type of sub. If its for looks, you aren't going to get admiring looks at the shows, you'll get snickers. Mixing different sub models/brands/sizes is a cardinal sin in car audio. Any time I see someone who has mixed subs, I know instantly this person knows very little about audio, and I pity them. Dont be one of those guys man.
Where did you get your info? I've been installing for sixteen years and, I built subs for a couple years, for one of the MAJOR car audio companies. You can mix all you want, won't change a damn thing.

As for your box. I'd be more than happy to help you figure it all out. If you still need help hit me up.
 
#31 ·
trickedcomps said:
what the hell is wrong with you people? why the fock do you need 6 subs in a extended cab truck? I have one, ONE kicker comp vr 12" in my ex cab. Tuned right for sq, sounds great. Tune it up for spl, sounds like shit, but will rattle the fock out of anything. The point is, son, you dont need to have 6 subs to sound good. There is a kid like that at my school that thinks he is hot shit with his 5 12s. me and my friend roll by and show people what bass is supposed to sound like, then the kid looks like an ass. The more subs you have doesnt mean yours is gonna be louder, or hit harder, its prolly just gonna do the opposite and sound like complete ass.

Everyone has their own taste in music. I find your post quite intolerant of other's people's opinions/tastes. Not only that, I find you 'rolled by' someone with five 12's and thinking you are showing them up with your single 12 to be pretty pathetic. Now here you are, rollin by trying to show us what bass is suppose to be like. The guy wants six 12, so what? Who the hell do you think you are to tell him or anyone else differently on something so subjective? As far as Im concerned, if you are gonna act like this, you can keep on rollin.
 
#32 ·
BRAINWASHED5150 said:
Where did you get your info? I've been installing for sixteen years and, I built subs for a couple years, for one of the MAJOR car audio companies. You can mix all you want, won't change a damn thing.

As for your box. I'd be more than happy to help you figure it all out. If you still need help hit me up.
If you are that experienced, I'll ask you a simple question... why would you mix sub sizes?

As for 'wont change a damn thing', you'll have to be more specific. Are you saying mixing sub brands or sizes is a good thing? Or that it has no ill effect? You don't accurately reproduce sound/music with an erratic response curve, and mixing sub sizes/brands certainly wont help your linearity any. Am I missing something?
 
#33 ·
Ever heard of audio theory?

You're very opinionated and judgemental. This forum is a good place for you, I just hope people don't take your word for bond. I work off of facts, maybe you should get yours straight before having pity on someone trying to follow his/her dreams and enjoy what they've got or can get. He wants his $H!T to bump, don't put him down for that.
 
#34 · (Edited)
BRAINWASHED5150 said:
Ever heard of audio theory?

You're very opinionated and judgemental. This forum is a good place for you, I just hope people don't take your word for bond. I work off of facts, maybe you should get yours straight before having pity on someone trying to follow his/her dreams and enjoy what they've got or can get. He wants his $H!T to bump, don't put him down for that.
What facts? Ive yet to see you produce any, or even to state where my 'opinion' is wrong. All Ive seen you do so far is state your view on the subject and boast your background as your 'facts'. Want to disagree with me, go right ahead. Ive been wrong before, I'll be wrong again, I wont cry about it if/when it happens. So you can get off that high horse right now guy I dont think Ive ever even seen on this forum before.

As for not putting down the guy who is trying to follow his dreams, where -exactly- did I 'put down' the guy? Ive tried to be nothing but helpful to the guy since the beginning of the thread. Quite the contrary, in a post above I defended the guy's right/desire to run as many subs as he wants. So you can get off that high horse too. Maybe you have me confused with someone else. :rolleyes:

Lastly, I dont know what you mean by this forum is a good place for me. If that's a crack at the size of this forum's car audio section, I'll have you know I actually find there to be quite a knowledgable group of people here. And, as if it matters, Im a member of many other car audio forums like ECA, caraudio.com, carsound, etc etc... and have been for many years. *yawn* So what?

Now, if you'd like to discuss the topic, I'd be glad to continue. If you want to continue the pissing match, Id be glad to continue that too via pm.
 
#35 · (Edited)
damn, really wish i could edit posts the next day. I appologize for my past, long day, shitty night, typed without really thinking. I am the ass. Sorry guys.

the true meaning behind what i was trying to say was that you dont need a shit load of subs to be loud, you can do with one good sub what you can do with 4 subs of inferior quality. It just seems that the new trend is that you need just a bunch of subs to be loud, when in reality you only need one and install it correctly to get the same effect.
 
#36 ·
trickedcomps said:
damn, really wish i could edit posts the next day. I appologize for my past, long day, shitty night, typed without really thinking. I am the ass. Sorry guys.

the true meaning behind what i was trying to say was that you dont need a shit load of subs to be loud, you can do with one good sub what you can do with 4 subs of inferior quality. It just seems that the new trend is that you need just a bunch of subs to be loud, when in reality you only need one and install it correctly to get the same effect.
Thanks for the repost, a much better way to express the same opinion. Sorry for jumping on you too.
 
#37 ·
audioholic said:
The voltage is not cut in half when you run Y splitters.

Dont run different subs. If you're doing it for the sound and output performance, it will sound worse and likely not be as loud as if you ran all of one type of sub. If its for looks, you aren't going to get admiring looks at the shows, you'll get snickers. Mixing different sub models/brands/sizes is a cardinal sin in car audio. Any time I see someone who has mixed subs, I know instantly this person knows very little about audio, and I pity them. Dont be one of those guys man.
I would call that a put down.
 
#38 ·
audioholic said:
What facts? Ive yet to see you produce any, or even to state where my 'opinion' is wrong. All Ive seen you do so far is state your view on the subject and boast your background as your 'facts'. Want to disagree with me, go right ahead. Ive been wrong before, I'll be wrong again, I wont cry about it if/when it happens. So you can get off that high horse right now guy I dont think Ive ever even seen on this forum before.

As for not putting down the guy who is trying to follow his dreams, where -exactly- did I 'put down' the guy? Ive tried to be nothing but helpful to the guy since the beginning of the thread. Quite the contrary, in a post above I defended the guy's right/desire to run as many subs as he wants. So you can get off that high horse too. Maybe you have me confused with someone else. :rolleyes:

Lastly, I dont know what you mean by this forum is a good place for me. If that's a crack at the size of this forum's car audio section, I'll have you know I actually find there to be quite a knowledgable group of people here. And, as if it matters, Im a member of many other car audio forums like ECA, caraudio.com, carsound, etc etc... and have been for many years. *yawn* So what?

Now, if you'd like to discuss the topic, I'd be glad to continue. If you want to continue the pissing match, Id be glad to continue that too via pm.
This is so stupid, I feel like I'm in high school. We've obviousely come to the point where poor communication meets BS. I'm not going to carry on in this thread. I, I, I, you, you, you. whatever.

Maybe we can agree to dissagree. I can be happy with that.

I
 
#39 ·
BRAINWASHED5150 said:
Maybe we can agree to dissagree. I can be happy with that.
I agree.

And for the record, the post you quoted of me was not meant as a put down, it was said light heartedly. I thought that was more obvious than it aparently was.
 
#40 ·
heres an update... i have 4 10 inch ma audio 10s going in a full fiberglass sub box, itll prabably be a open air internal (one chamber) sealed box.... im using a 1800 watt ma audio amp and i have a clarion touch screen head unit... i also am using rockford fosgate punch 6x9s (modifying the back Pannels) and 6.5s for the front. itll rock. i also am not using any caps, i have 2 optima yellow tops (a third will be hooked up if needed) and a 200 amp alt. it sounds sweeet with just the 2 subs i cant wait to hook up all 4.
 
#41 ·
you can mix sizes, no its not normally good to mix brands and different rated subs but If you wanna be loud and not have sq its cool. but if you split your rca's enough you will not get any freaking sound worth crap anyway and it won't be loud.
 
#42 ·
hutchS-10 said:
you can mix sizes, no its not normally good to mix brands and different rated subs but If you wanna be loud and not have sq its cool. but if you split your rca's enough you will not get any freaking sound worth crap anyway and it won't be loud.
*sigh* I swear, why do I bother trying to explain this stuff.

Believe whatever you want, but 999 times out of 1000 mixing sub sizes is a horrid idea. And that's a fact.

I had forgotten this little arguement with brainwashed, what a putz.

*shrug* Its my mood.
 
#43 · (Edited)
HAHAHA, how did I miss this thread

and is the thread title "sub box builder thats a stoopid moron" what the thread starter intended, or was it changed by a mod, I prefer to think the latter

and yes, Audioholic is %100 correct, unless you are putting your smaller subs thru a bandpass filter,

simply put your 10's aren't going to be able to keep up with your 15's down low, and the difference in output will bring you cancellation, it's really not a good thing

I would think anybody installing stereos for 16 years would know this, I learned it in my first year
 
#44 ·