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How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80

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#1 ·
Here is a little write up/explanation on how to swap your stock CS130D alternator for an AD244 alternator off of most of the full size trucks.

For those of you that NEED a bigger alternator, weather it be because of off-road accessories (winches, lights, etc) or because you need the extra amperage due to a bigger sound system, you would probably upgrade to an aftermarket alternator to meet your needs. Well, unless you are paying $300+ for a built alternator with a good stator and regulator put in, you will loose voltage at idle when you purchase the upgraded one. This is where most people have their concern, especially you off-road guys.

For example, when you put a 160 amp stator in a stock CS130D (4.3L) case, you will get the 160 amps, but only at about 1000 engine RPM's. Our 4.3L's idle at ~550-600, so the output is a lot less, voltage and amperage. I've found that my "built" CS130D only put out 45 amps and 12.8v at idle, when I needed a LOT more than that to keep my lights from dimming at idle.

So, our goal here is to get output (amperage and voltage) at idle as well as our required output at speeds greater than idle. With the AD244, you can have the best of both worlds.

*You can pick up a used AD244 alternator from your local junkyard for ~$40-$50, depending on mileage/condition*

The AD244 alternator came off of several full size pickups, from different years. There were two versions of the alternator made, a 130A version and a 145A version. You can call your local junkyard/salvage yard and ask them what it came off of, how many miles are on it, and what version it is (130A or 145A). Here is a link to everything you need to know (including what vehicles it came off of) about the AD244 (thank juddspaintballs for the link)

http://www.wai-wetherill.com/products/partimage.cfm?wai_num=1-2419-21DR

*The AD244 alternator will bolt right up to the stock alternator bracket on the 4.3L with NO modifications to the bracket. The only thing that is different is that you won't be using the 3rd bolt that is on the backside of the alternator. The CS130D has this, but the AD244 doesn't. You won't have any troubles with the bolt not being there.*

*The AD244 uses the same wire harness as the CS130D. It is a plug-and-play application.*

Now, I know what you guys are thinking..... "well dude, I need wayy more than 145 amps." That's what I was thinking too when I was doing this mod. I've got a decent sized sound system in the truck and some aftermarket fog lights on my safari bar, so I needed the extra amperage.

Bench tests have proven this alternator to put out 200+ amps at idle when cold. Yes, that's right, at idle.

When the alternator is warm it will easily put out 100 amps at idle,which is way better than the CS130D which is only capable of producing ~40 amps at idle.

It is a slightly underrated alternator (you audio guru's out there know what the term 'underrated' means and how it compares to the quality of a product). I can crank my system to the max and have no voltage issues with it when I'm at idle. I'll maintain a 14v and my lights don't dim.

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Now that you have the alternator, you'll be needing a longer belt. I can't say how long of a belt you'll be needing, but the stock one won't work. If you DO get the stock belt to work (some have) I STRONGLY don't recommend it. It will put a bigger strain on the bearings in the alternator and can cause premature failure. It's worth the extra $35 for a new belt.

*You will need a belt that is 1"-1.5" longer than stock. For some reason, the lengths of belts changed from year to year (even 98+) so you'll have to do a little bit of math and figure it out on your own :p *

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I also highly recommend doing the "Big 3" upgrade when doing the AD244 mod. Stock wiring CAN take the 200+amps that the AD244 puts out, but if you are having problems with it, then it is probably the wiring.

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Here are some pictures of my AD244 in action:

Output at idle with just my headlights on:

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Output at IDLE with my system cranked to the max:

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Output at IDLE with all accessories on (all 4 headlights [quad beam mod], a/c on MAX with fans at #3, fog lights, and my system cranked to the max:


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13.96 can be lower than most would like to be.... but a stock CS130D would be gasping for air if I was treating it like that.

So, if I had things my way, every s10/blazer would have an AD244 as their alternator, even if they have a stock electrical system.
 
#127 ·
I think I might have the first gen 2 wires vs 1 wire ad244 problem figured out. More on it later after I get home from work. The wiring schematics I have only include the 2.5 and 2.8 (only options in 87) so the 4.3 guys might have to chime in.
 
#128 ·
I think I have the 2 wires narrowed down. The wire we don't need is the brown wire (circuit 25 in the GM service book). From the best I can tell all it does is run the alt light on the dash. Since I also have the full gauge cluster it doesn't bother me to not have the idiot light.

As soon as I get my hands on another AD244 I'm gonna have to try it again. I had to sell my last one because somebody offered me double than what I gave for it, lol.
 
#129 ·
I think I have the 2 wires narrowed down. The wire we don't need is the brown wire (circuit 25 in the GM service book). From the best I can tell all it does is run the alt light on the dash. Since I also have the full gauge cluster it doesn't bother me to not have the idiot light.

As soon as I get my hands on another AD244 I'm gonna have to try it again. I had to sell my last one because somebody offered me double than what I gave for it, lol.
:haha:

Can't beat that deal haha.
 
#131 ·
Somebody didn't read the thread, plug and play for most of you second gen guys.
 
#133 ·
I said most cause I have no clue about 2nd gens. I know some of the 94-96 (obd1.5 guys) were more like first gens than the latter ones. Not sure if this included the alt wiring.

I do know the first gens reg is wired up different than the 2nd gens, lol.
 
#135 ·
I may pick up one or two of those alternators that Colin found. I don't care if I have to make brackets or not. I'm going to be using it to charge a separate battery bank for my stereo.

The connector on the alternator, does that have to be utilized?
 
#137 ·
I've READ that when you use more than one alternator, that you just "piggy back" the harnesses together. So when you buy that second alternator, make sure you get a harness with it, too.

Don't quote me on this information, this is just what I've read. If I were you I would get some more research on this. Like I said, don't take my word for it.
 
#140 ·
http://www.missinglinkaudio.com/

they make a module for multiple alts that will keep battery lights off on you dash and keep all the alts charging 100%. They can also make they charge at a little higher voltage if you would like.
Yup, I've seen that.
I still would like to do a 'separate' charging circuit though.
 
#143 · (Edited)
I went and looked at the plug on my 94 2.2, it *looks* to be the same plug. I didn't look at the position of the plug though. I'm pretty sure theres enough slack to connect it up, if not I'm sure you could extend the wires or make up something. I haven't got a AD244 to see if its close to fiting to the stock bracket.... I'm pretty sure I can manage to make an alternator bracket.

I can't remember what came stock on my 2.2 off the top of my head. I think its a CS series alt, which has a diff plug, with the exception of the CS130D, which has the same plug as the ADs...

I'll have to verify it..
 
#144 · (Edited)
Okay heres what I found.
My 1994 2.2 has a CS130D. This has the same plug as the AD244.
The AD244 might fit right up, it may not.
If it does, I'll probably pick up 2.

OK...

94 2.2 CS130D

1-1802-31DR-1
(Ref. Num. 8160-7N)

Alternator - Delco CS130D Series
100 Amp/12 Volt, CW, 6-Groove Pulley, 08:00 Plug Clock


Used On:
(1997-94) Chevrolet S, T Series Pickup 2.2L
(1997-94) GMC Sonoma 2.2L
(1997-96) Isuzu Hombre 2.2L

Replaces:
Delco 10479984, 10480187
Lester Nos:
8160
Components:
24-1271 Pulley
D702XHD (35-132) P-L-I-S Regulator

Features:
100% New
OE performance output curve
OE interchangeable components, officially licensed & manufactured with Remy's patent-protected technology
WAI-Transpo premium rectifier featuring press-fit avalanche diodes
WAI-Transpo premium regulator with 20A MOSFET field transistor
Premium, hi-temperature WBD bearings
Hi-temperature class-H windings
Precision CNC machined castings


94 4.3 CS130D
1-1802-21DR-1
(Ref. Num. 8160-5N)

Alternator - Delco CS130D Series
100 Amp/12 Volt, CW, 6-Groove Pulley, 05:00 Plug Clock


Used On:
(1995-94) Chevrolet Blazer, S, T Series Pickup 4.3L
(1995-94) GMC Jimmy 4.3L, Sonoma 4.3L
(1994) Oldsmobile Bravada 4.3L

Replaces:
Delco 10479981, 10480188
Lester Nos:
8160
Components:
24-1271 Pulley
D702XHD (35-132) P-L-I-S Regulator

Features:
100% New
OE performance output curve
OE interchangeable components, officially licensed & manufactured with Remy's patent-protected technology
WAI-Transpo premium rectifier featuring press-fit avalanche diodes
WAI-Transpo premium regulator with 20A MOSFET field transistor
Premium, hi-temperature WBD bearings
Hi-temperature class-H windings
Precision CNC machined castings
 
#146 ·
I'm not sure if the case is any different though, you may have to make up brackets.
I looked at the 2000 alternator, both for the 4.3 seemed the same specs, just the plug was at a different position.

I may get a price at Napa on those 200 amp ones, and I messaged MLA, they can set me up with a module for whatever I want to do.
 
#147 ·
Please... let us fellow tutu'ers know if it works! this would be so much cheaper than getting a custom built cs... this would be perfect for my system...

on a side note has anyone ever made a custom bracket and run 2 cs's before, I got a spare...
 
#153 ·
If I can get the funds together for a 200A AD244, I'll probably order one.
I wanna get an amp first (backwards I know.. sorta, but its a big piece of my system and it'll be more motivation than an alt)

From what I can find it should fit, but I can't verify it 100%
 
#154 ·
#156 ·
No prob, I keep that one handy, I like the look of it, gonna be gettin me 1-18" btl, and a sundown saz-3000d when taxes come back (well that wll make the down payment for all that crap...haha)

but anyway, I swear, last off-topic post!
 
#157 ·
In case anyone is still wondering. This should help shed some light on the belt situation for the:

99-05 Blazer
99 - 01 Trailblazer
99 - 04 S10
All 99-05 4.3L's use the same belt (with a/c).
For a 1" longer belt use the Dayco Part#5060960 or the Goodyear Gatorback part#4060960 (imo better quality)

Got this information from: partsamerica.com and daycoproducts.com
Hope this Helps!:tup:
 
#158 · (Edited)
This is good info to have, but from what I've found, people are using different size belts for different year trucks. The 96" may be long enough for this guy with a '00 pickup, but I'll need a 96.5" long belt for my '99. It's weird I know, and I mentioned this in the OP.

That's a good starting point, but just remember that there is that possibility that you could need a different belt (longer or shorter, use common sense when installing) than that 96"
 
#161 ·
I'd like to upgrade to the HO AD244 Alt. for my 95 Blazer 4wd with CPI motor. My alt is on the opposite side of the engine than the newer blazers and the plug is at the 5-6 oclock position on mine. Has anyone done this on a setup like mine? If so, I'll be junkyard diving again.
 
#162 ·
I finally got the HO AD244 and installed it late last night, fits great, works great, i'll have to get some readings tonight. I don't have anything that draws serious power over stock yet, but at least now I know I can upgrade without worrying. Plus the stock alternator was starting to crap out anyways.

I'll post pics and readings as soon as I can...
 
#164 ·
hey guys, i am looking at an alternator on ebay thats going for like $20. it's for a 99 sierra. the guy has no idea of the part number as it is in inventory. the ad says it should fit the following:


1999 Sierra 1500 & 2500 4.3L
1999 Silverado 1500 & 2500 4.3L


any ideas if this will work or not? lol nothing like shopping for parts with the least amount of info on them.
 
#165 ·
hey guys, i am looking at an alternator on ebay thats going for like $20. it's for a 99 sierra. the guy has no idea of the part number as it is in inventory. the ad says it should fit the following:


1999 Sierra 1500 & 2500 4.3L
1999 Silverado 1500 & 2500 4.3L


any ideas if this will work or not? lol nothing like shopping for parts with the least amount of info on them.
Give us a link to the auction :tup:
 
#166 · (Edited)
#170 ·
Find out if the plug on it has 4 prongs in it or 2. If its the 4 prong one its the one you want, if its the 2 prong one it won't work.