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How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80

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#1 ·
Here is a little write up/explanation on how to swap your stock CS130D alternator for an AD244 alternator off of most of the full size trucks.

For those of you that NEED a bigger alternator, weather it be because of off-road accessories (winches, lights, etc) or because you need the extra amperage due to a bigger sound system, you would probably upgrade to an aftermarket alternator to meet your needs. Well, unless you are paying $300+ for a built alternator with a good stator and regulator put in, you will loose voltage at idle when you purchase the upgraded one. This is where most people have their concern, especially you off-road guys.

For example, when you put a 160 amp stator in a stock CS130D (4.3L) case, you will get the 160 amps, but only at about 1000 engine RPM's. Our 4.3L's idle at ~550-600, so the output is a lot less, voltage and amperage. I've found that my "built" CS130D only put out 45 amps and 12.8v at idle, when I needed a LOT more than that to keep my lights from dimming at idle.

So, our goal here is to get output (amperage and voltage) at idle as well as our required output at speeds greater than idle. With the AD244, you can have the best of both worlds.

*You can pick up a used AD244 alternator from your local junkyard for ~$40-$50, depending on mileage/condition*

The AD244 alternator came off of several full size pickups, from different years. There were two versions of the alternator made, a 130A version and a 145A version. You can call your local junkyard/salvage yard and ask them what it came off of, how many miles are on it, and what version it is (130A or 145A). Here is a link to everything you need to know (including what vehicles it came off of) about the AD244 (thank juddspaintballs for the link)

http://www.wai-wetherill.com/products/partimage.cfm?wai_num=1-2419-21DR

*The AD244 alternator will bolt right up to the stock alternator bracket on the 4.3L with NO modifications to the bracket. The only thing that is different is that you won't be using the 3rd bolt that is on the backside of the alternator. The CS130D has this, but the AD244 doesn't. You won't have any troubles with the bolt not being there.*

*The AD244 uses the same wire harness as the CS130D. It is a plug-and-play application.*

Now, I know what you guys are thinking..... "well dude, I need wayy more than 145 amps." That's what I was thinking too when I was doing this mod. I've got a decent sized sound system in the truck and some aftermarket fog lights on my safari bar, so I needed the extra amperage.

Bench tests have proven this alternator to put out 200+ amps at idle when cold. Yes, that's right, at idle.

When the alternator is warm it will easily put out 100 amps at idle,which is way better than the CS130D which is only capable of producing ~40 amps at idle.

It is a slightly underrated alternator (you audio guru's out there know what the term 'underrated' means and how it compares to the quality of a product). I can crank my system to the max and have no voltage issues with it when I'm at idle. I'll maintain a 14v and my lights don't dim.

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Now that you have the alternator, you'll be needing a longer belt. I can't say how long of a belt you'll be needing, but the stock one won't work. If you DO get the stock belt to work (some have) I STRONGLY don't recommend it. It will put a bigger strain on the bearings in the alternator and can cause premature failure. It's worth the extra $35 for a new belt.

*You will need a belt that is 1"-1.5" longer than stock. For some reason, the lengths of belts changed from year to year (even 98+) so you'll have to do a little bit of math and figure it out on your own :p *

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I also highly recommend doing the "Big 3" upgrade when doing the AD244 mod. Stock wiring CAN take the 200+amps that the AD244 puts out, but if you are having problems with it, then it is probably the wiring.

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Here are some pictures of my AD244 in action:

Output at idle with just my headlights on:

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Output at IDLE with my system cranked to the max:

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Output at IDLE with all accessories on (all 4 headlights [quad beam mod], a/c on MAX with fans at #3, fog lights, and my system cranked to the max:


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13.96 can be lower than most would like to be.... but a stock CS130D would be gasping for air if I was treating it like that.

So, if I had things my way, every s10/blazer would have an AD244 as their alternator, even if they have a stock electrical system.
 
#43 ·
You can get that alternator off of these vehicles:
Used On:
(2005-03) AM General Hummer 6.0L
(2005-04) Buick Rainier 5.3L
(2004-02) Cadillac Escalade 5.3L, 6.0L
(2005-99) Chevrolet, GMC Pickup, SUV, Van 4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.5L, 6.6L, 8.1L
(2005-03) Isuzu Ascender 5.3L
(2005) Saab 9-7X 5.3L


They all say they are a 130 amp alternator according to the manuals, but if you pick one up, most of them say they are 145 amp models instead. No one is going to complain about the extra amperage.
 
#44 ·
You can get that alternator off of these vehicles:
Used On:
(2005-03) AM General Hummer 6.0L
(2005-04) Buick Rainier 5.3L
(2004-02) Cadillac Escalade 5.3L, 6.0L
(2005-99) Chevrolet, GMC Pickup, SUV, Van 4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.5L, 6.6L, 8.1L
(2005-03) Isuzu Ascender 5.3L
(2005) Saab 9-7X 5.3L


They all say they are a 130 amp alternator according to the manuals, but if you pick one up, most of them say they are 145 amp models instead. No one is going to complain about the extra amperage.

Just saying from personal experience but 90% of the time the ones I have seen on the hummers and suburbans are 145 amps and the rest are 130. I'm sure the rest came with them also but thats just from my dealings.
 
#57 ·
A stocker has it stamped on it somewhere. Most of the time on the bottom. If not it might be aftermarket.
 
#58 ·
I see ebay is selling ds130 that put out 105amp at idle(I called them and they said idle is at 550rpm) and max output of 200. Has anyone ever tried these out or would you say ad244 are better? See below for ebay listing

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...motors.shop.ebay.com:80/__?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=390015349998&_nd1=&_fvi=1

Any comments would greatly apprecieted.

Also does anyone know would the AD244 from a 03 chevy sub 145amp fit a 2000 s10 blazer 4.3L. currently running AC delco reman 321-1432 10464084. if so would it be plug and play for wiring I do know a large belt is needed.
 
#59 ·
I'm weary on believing that that alternator will put out 105 amps AND 14.4v at idle, that's just me though. I've learned first hand AND done the research that it is a tough task to get 105 amps AND 14.4v at IDLE with a CS130D when warm, and that if you are going to accomplish that task, then you'll be spending more than just $215 on the alternator.

I could be wrong; that ebay alternator could put out what that guy said it does, but me being me, I don't buy it.

Remember - all of those numbers are when the alternator is COLD. Everyone knows that when anything heats up, it loses power, same goes for an alternator. I could believe that the said alternator puts out 14.4v and 105 amps at idle when COLD. I know my built up CS130D with a 160amp stator put out 14.6v and over 105 amps at idle when COLD. But when it's warm, I'll bet it puts out no more than 12.8v and 45 amps at IDLE.

^that's just me being me though, aka, my opinion.

And as far as the alternator fitting your truck, yes it will fit, and yes it will be a plug-and-play application. Please read the original post next time.... all of your questions and more will be answered there, I promise.
 
#62 ·
1-1.5" longer than stock..... says it right there in the OP :rolleyes:

Go to your local auto parts store..... ask for an OEM belt for your year s10..... then say no to it and ask for one that is 1-1.5" longer..... get 2 or 3 of different sizes if you need and you can always return the ones that don't fit.
 
#64 ·
-goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960

If you have 4.3 with a/c thats the belt u need! the 4060952,4060955 are too small
that's not 100% correct. belt length changed several times during the years. you have to find out what length is on your truck and get a belt that is 1-1.5" longer. for instance, i believe a 98 has a different length belt than a 99 and they are both different lengths than 00, but all 3 with AC are the same generation and there was no real change between those years.
 
#65 · (Edited)
my truck -4.3,auto,2002 s10
donor truck-5.3,auto, 2002 tahoe
parts needed
-goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960

*if you have the same truck i do then thats the belt you need. If youd dont then what you need to do is take the time to measure it out. thats measured from center to center of the mounting hole to the pulley. I came out with my measurement subtracted from the stock one and went and bought a belt that was that much longer. easy as that. for someone who cant measure to find out what belt they need shouldnt attempt this!
 
#66 ·
my truck -4.3,auto,2002 s10
donor truck-5.3,auto, 2002 tahoe
parts needed
-goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960

*if you have the same truck i do then thats the belt you need. If youd dont then what you need to do is take the time to measure it out. thats measured from center to center of the mounting hole to the pulley. I came out with my measurement subtracted from the stock one and went and bought a belt that was that much longer. easy as that. for someone who cant measure to find out what belt they need shouldnt attempt this!
A simple guess and check of 2 (maybe 3) belts is all you really need to do. No measurements are required. If one belt doesn't fit, go to one longer.
 
#68 ·
that's why i went to NAPA. carquest people can usually find their ass with both hands too. all i did was walk in, ask what my stock belt length was, and asked for a belt exactly 1" longer than that.
 
#69 ·
Well from my original posting #59 I converted my 100amp ds130 to a 145amp ad244 from a 2004 escalade and it went very well as stated in previous posting.....thanks. However I do question the 100amp at idle when warm. Current running a middle range sound system with a 200 amp & 12 inch woof. I am also using this s10 blazer to move snow...yes I have a plow on it. This is were the problem lies when the plow is moving lights dim and volts go down at idle. I did notice moving the plow around for few minutes after leting the truck run for 5 minutes the replacement alternator was very warm/hot to the touch. I replaced the belt and the cable from the alternator to the battery. Does anyone have any other suggestions.
 
#70 ·
Have you done the Big 3?

- to frame and - to engine block?

Read the stickey if you have any questions.

You're saying you get voltage problems (at idle) when moving the plow with the AD244 installed? Did you have these voltage problems with the stock alternator?
 
#73 ·
Have you done the Big 3?

- to frame and - to engine block?

Read the stickey if you have any questions.

You're saying you get voltage problems (at idle) when moving the plow with the AD244 installed? Did you have these voltage problems with the stock alternator?

No, I only added a 4 guage wire from the alternator to the battery. Yes I did have the same problem with the stock alternator.
 
#71 ·
do you know how much current the hydraulic pump for the plow draws? methinks it's a pretty good amount -- plenty enough to bring your voltage down at idle with 100 amperes flowing from your alternator.
 
#74 ·
do you know how much current the hydraulic pump for the plow draws? methinks it's a pretty good amount -- plenty enough to bring your voltage down at idle with 100 amperes flowing from your alternator.

The snowplow operation manual states a 100 amp alternator or larger and a 600cca battery or larger. My original alt was 100 now I am running a ad244 145 amp & 700cca battery.
 
#72 ·
I think I'm going to look for these alternators anyway, might have to buy them from car-part, because there is nothing new in the junkyards where I live.

Even thought they won't fit in the stock bracket, I can still use them. Muahaha.
 
#78 ·
talking about diff amp alt, you can find one from a truck/suv that had electric fans and get a 145 or higher alt. my friends 07 suburban loaded, has rear ent, rear a/c and fans and it has a 200 amp alt factory. Unsure if it will bolt the same or not. just an idea.

Gonna try this on my 94 hwne this alt takes a crap.
 
#80 ·
they were trying to figure out the amp output of the alternators. i was just saying if you were searching the bone yard you could get one from a truck that had electric fans, rear defrost, rear dvd install and it may be a 200 ampo alternator instead of 130/145. I was just saying a friends 07 suburban 5.3 has elec fans, rear dvd, rear defrost and has a 200 amp alt. I am unsure if the 07 will fit the same due to newer body style. will get closer look when i change oil next time.

another friend has a 01 z71 and his has a 130 installed, my dads 02 2500hd has a 145 installed, neither has elec fans or rear defrost, just stating what trucks i have seen come with what.

and yes i read the thread, just trying to clear up some confusion. I hope this explains more what i said/
 
#82 ·
Ah ok, I gotcha now. Sorry, I misunderstood you.

Yeah that 200 amp would kick ass, if it does work on our 4.3's. I think it MIGHT be the 2nd generation of AD244's that they are using on the new Chevy trucks, I could be wrong though, I haven't looked into it much.
 
#83 ·
You also gotta look at the plug on the alts off of newer trucks. If its only 2 prong it will not work. You're looking for an AD244 with a 4 prong electrical connector.
 
#84 ·
You also gotta look at the plug on the alts off of newer trucks. If its only 2 prong it will not work. You're looking for an AD244 with a 4 prong electrical connector.
Yeah cknaffle over at Zr2USA did a group buy of all new AD244 alternators and they have the different plug on them, unlike my junkyard one.
 
#81 · (Edited)
On that snowplow deal, it might be pulling so many amps
it might need a larger Prestolite-Leece Neville alt which is used
on many tow trucks, etc. They are pretty expensive
and I'm not sure one is even made that would bolt
to an S10, but they do put out serious power.

Looks like there is one made for the s10 Blazer.
Anyway >

http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_products/alt_search.php
 
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Not sure if that's what you wanted, but that's the factory harness plug. I don't know what the brand new AD244 plugs look like, google images could prolly help ya out there.

AD244 on the left (built 160amp CS130D that doesn't put out sh!t at idle on the right):

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You can also check out the Part 2 link in my signature for some more info on it.