One time they dropped a v12 in a pt cruiser. That was fast. I personally would chose the muscle. Light weight is nice, but then he will need vinyl and all the sticker shit. Cost him a shitload. The car will probably win driving around town and you will win straight down the road. A blower will add to you never losing.

dont ever speak again.

 

I bet that dude has 5-10k in that motor. got to love those torque numbers. lmao.

OH easily dude.. And that car isnt even close to being streetable. that thing is a turbo h22, with gutted interior, Full cage, and slicks. setup just for teh track

There was another dude there the day i saw that honda run, He had a CRX. i think it was in the 13's range.. But yea.. 2nd run of the day.. Stock axles went boom on his launch.. Another honda that was there blew somethin up about half way down the track too, And that was another low 11 second civic hatch. There was one other guy running an all motor h22, with an ITB fuel injection setup, and just completely done up, And i think he hit mid 13s

 

this thread is stupid. who cares

 

this thread is stupid. who cares

You cared enough to post....

 

i would really like to see that, if it only costs 2k to make an 11 sec honda than i never should of sold mine, it costs 2k for a turbo kit alone and if you wanna do it right it wouldnt jus cost 2k, at least ive never seen that.

Thats why you throw your own kit together. Why do you have to buy pre-made shit? Also it helps knowing people.

 

Thats why you throw your own kit together. Why do you have to buy pre-made shit? Also it helps knowing people.

im sure you can through your own kit for cheaper, but sometimes its not that much cheaper. comapared to greddy and stuff like that it is. but there are new companys that are selling kits for just a little more than what you would pay if you pieced it together. the only thing that I can see throwing together or fabbing on your own is intercooler piping.

 

you also did say that it was EASY to make a 11 second civic for 2 grand. considering an good turbo alone cost around $500 for a 4cyl. Not to mention intercooler, piping engine mods, ecm upgrades, fuel upgrades, and all the other stuff involved.. And making your own header, and plumbing your entire turbo system isnt exactly easy. theres alot of fabrication and time involved in designing a good setup that flows properly So there goes the home made theory.

 

blah, blah, blah, only import i respect is the talon tsi... fastest talon out there is like 8.6-8.8 in the 1/4 mile by shep racing... but count the dollars to get it there. alot... then you have a lingenfelter vette (think i spelled it right?) built a lil with twin turbos stompin that with a run of 8.5 (saw video proof, not jus talkin out my ass)

lets lay down the basic and unbeatable facts here and call it an end.

1.) a v-8 can always be more powerful than a 4 cyl. cubic inches always win. ex... a built to hell supra motor with twin turbos and whatnot makes big numbers... however a twin turbo setup on a SBC such as the banks twin turbo and whatnot is gonna make bigger numbers... PERIOD! technology stops at the mercy of big cubic inches... not to mention that hot bitches like a lopey rumbled car versus one that sounds like its gonna fuggin sting you like a pack of bees.

2.) my buddy has a 1st gen talon tsi and i have a 2nd gen longbed s10 now lets say you wanna give us 2k spending limit...

I buy, complete lightly modded vortec heads from summit for about 650 bux, edelbrock airgap manifold about 250 bux, edelbrock 750 cfm carb 280 bux, forged trw pistons (givin the motor about 9.6 comp ratio with the 64 cc combustion chamber) 300 bux, and im gonna buy an old school grind l79 vette cam 222/222 dur @ .050 447/447 lift. 150 bux, im gonna stop there just to make the victory that much sweeter.

he buys, equal length stainless header into his stock turbo (stock cause others cost a shatload) 1000 bux alone then he buys a full stainless 3 inch exhaust another 1000bux, whoops he is done! well at least he got the car to breath my exhaust a lil better!

and those are not fake numbers either! why you ask? cause that is only a lil part of my part list to my v8 and what i paid, and my buddy has shown me the prices he has paid for his stuff.

bottom line is that for the money i can be faster dollar for dollar... sure he can be fast as hell but how deep is his pocket?

basicly hondas are fo ****... god do i hate those fuggin little bee hives on wheels!

 

"he buys, equal length stainless header into his stock turbo (stock cause others cost a shatload) 1000 bux alone then he buys a full stainless 3 inch exhaust another 1000bux, whoops he is done! well at least he got the car to breath my exhaust a lil better!" - WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

And you will still not beat the talon even with all those mods and his only exhaust mod.

 

lets lay down the basic and unbeatable facts here and call it an end.

I buy, complete lightly modded vortec heads from summit for about 650 bux, edelbrock airgap manifold about 250 bux, edelbrock 750 cfm carb 280 bux, forged trw pistons (givin the motor about 9.6 comp ratio with the 64 cc combustion chamber) 300 bux, and im gonna buy an old school grind l79 vette cam 222/222 dur @ .050 447/447 lift. 150 bux, im gonna stop there just to make the victory that much sweeter.

he buys, equal length stainless header into his stock turbo (stock cause others cost a shatload) 1000 bux alone then he buys a full stainless 3 inch exhaust another 1000bux, whoops he is done! well at least he got the car to breath my exhaust a lil better!
!

A header is actually cheap as hell. I found one for $150.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7960714539&category=33631

Full stainless 3 inch exhaust another 1000 bux? hHm...

Why does he have to get these mods done? If i had a talon and $2000 I'd get a bigger turbo, headers and weld my own custom exhaust.

More like $170 for header, $500 for brand new Garrett t3/4, $500 for exhaust, + Injectors and computer tuning. ALL FOR $2000. Wow, i thought you said i could only get an exhaust system for $2000?

turbocharger link

Your unbeatable facts are bullshit. You live in fantasy life. Your mods vs. what i just listed for the talon he will own you.

 

Since when was a Talon built by HONDA?

 

Since when was a Talon built by HONDA?

lol, thats what I said. and were also comparing a awd vehicle thats already turbo to a s-10. lets compare the tsi to a syclone. :rotf:

 

Lets get back on track here..........Dude A has a S-10 that hes putting a V-8 in. Rice Boy has a HONDA Accord, not a Talon not a Civic not a Skyline but a friggin HONDA ACCORD!
The goal is to waste the other on a budget of only 2k to be spent on mods(since Dude A and Rice Boy already own there cars).
So throw up some usefull ideas and lets go!

 

Lets get back on track here..........Dude A has a S-10 that hes putting a V-8 in. Rice Boy has a HONDA Accord, not a Talon not a Civic not a Skyline but a friggin HONDA ACCORD!
The goal is to waste the other on a budget of only 2k to be spent on mods(since Dude A and Rice Boy already own there cars).
So throw up some usefull ideas and lets go!

lol, ur right man. :rotf:

 

my girlfriend has a '99 prelude, h22 w\vtech, i outran a 5.0 mustang with it, im guessing the guy couldnt drive because my girl's car is "transportation", she doesnt have a cai, header, cam, nitrous, or the like, just bone stock, BUT the motor does hum and id put money on it, dollar for dollar, the h22 would leave the blaz no prob. 2k on a built 350 compared to a turbo\intercooled h22, the blazer wouldnt be able to keep up.

go buy a typhoon and make a bet, say he 1k into his car and you wont do a damn thing to the typhoon and tell him you will still beat him, see what he says then.

 

my girlfriend has a '99 prelude, h22 w\vtech, i outran a 5.0 mustang with it, im guessing the guy couldnt drive because my girl's car is "transportation", she doesnt have a cai, header, cam, nitrous, or the like, just bone stock, BUT the motor does hum and id put money on it, dollar for dollar, the h22 would leave the blaz no prob. 2k on a built 350 compared to a turbo\intercooled h22, the blazer wouldnt be able to keep up.

go buy a typhoon and make a bet, say he 1k into his car and you wont do a damn thing to the typhoon and tell him you will still beat him, see what he says then.

those preludes are nice, and are pretty fast. is it stock? becuase the 5.0s are not that fast stock.

 

i have a chevy symbol tattooed on my arm and im sorry to say but 5 grand into a accord and 5 grand into a blazer is a tough one because it alldepends on the hookups and the knowledge of the people i have seen jdm h23 vtech motors got for 800 basicaly full swap besides mounts that in a accord would get you into the 13's easy then get a good header, intake manifold, slicks, good axles, and and like a 75 shot of nitrous low 13's high 12's but then again you could go and peace together a turbo kit and tune it for 12 psi and i dont just mean make it run desent i mean have a freind that knows what he is doing acualy tune it with uberdata witch is free and if you know what your doing be in the 12's or even 11's and you are still only up to about 3500. yeah yeah i know it isnt an accord but i have witnissed a civic with a singal cam 1.6 liter vtech motor with not internals what so ever just injectors and a peiced together running 12 psi and a realy good tune run a 12.56 and he has 5k into the hole thing and he paid 4 grand for the car so a grand on mods and hes 12's on his daly driver.


But then agian its all about hookups because it could easly be done in the blazer too its all about hookups and knowlege

 

those preludes are nice, and are pretty fast. is it stock? becuase the 5.0s are not that fast stock.

yea all stock, its a real nice car (they hold their value real well too) nice vehicle and quick too, i really dont know the hp\trq of it, i think its around 180, i out ran a rsx type s in it as well, but yes its all stock, black on black, nice little car, you really can feel the vtech in the doch motors, i know my 94 civic ex sohc motor, you cant feel shit when vtec comes into play because it only has it on the intake lobes of the cam, but on the doch mototr its on both cams,(intake and exhaust) and its a burst of speed for sure, although vtec IS highly overated. lol.

 

i have a chevy symbol tattooed on my arm and im sorry to say but 5 grand into a accord and 5 grand into a blazer is a tough one because it alldepends on the hookups and the knowledge of the people i have seen jdm h23 vtech motors got for 800 basicaly full swap besides mounts that in a accord would get you into the 13's easy then get a good header, intake manifold, slicks, good axles, and and like a 75 shot of nitrous low 13's high 12's but then again you could go and peace together a turbo kit and tune it for 12 psi and i dont just mean make it run desent i mean have a freind that knows what he is doing acualy tune it with uberdata witch is free and if you know what your doing be in the 12's or even 11's and you are still only up to about 3500. yeah yeah i know it isnt an accord but i have witnissed a civic with a singal cam 1.6 liter vtech motor with not internals what so ever just injectors and a peiced together running 12 psi and a realy good tune run a 12.56 and he has 5k into the hole thing and he paid 4 grand for the car so a grand on mods and hes 12's on his daly driver.


But then agian its all about hookups because it could easly be done in the blazer too its all about hookups and knowlege

ur sayin that an entire "JDM" motor, and a turbo system costs 3500. if this h23 is jdm and it cost 800 bucks. he got a heck of deal concidering thats like a little more than the shipping from over seas. and like I said before "piece" ur own kit together usually isnt that much cheaper only if you build your own intercooler piping. unless your going with these big companys like greddy. 1000 bucks and 12s, thats pretty good. seems there little tricks that everyone else seems to know. I once built a 10 sec s-10. 100 dollors for the truck. 200 dollors for the pieced turbo kit and a gooberdata tune. 2000 dollors in a good suspension. I had 2300 bucks in a 10 sec truck. **** honda. :rotf:

 

I once built a 10 sec s-10. 100 dollors for the truck. 200 dollors for the pieced turbo kit and a gooberdata tune. 2000 dollors in a good suspension. I had 2300 bucks in a 10 sec truck. **** honda. :rotf:

Is that a joke?

Wow, it seems that you are pretty frustrated that hondas are easier to make fast..

 

Is that a joke?

Wow, it seems that you are pretty frustrated that hondas are easier to make fast..

ROTFLMAO! Man you are so funny that it hurts!
Heres what I know.
1- In Memphis we have "1" 10 second Honda and about 4 or 5 high 12 low 13 second Hondas.
We also have a butload of 15-16 second Hondas(these are the norm)

2-If it is easier to make a Honda motor(the one in you car or on your lawn mower, they are the same to me) faster, Why is it that we have about 20 Mustangs in the 10's, 30 F-Bodys in the 10's and God knows how many GM's in the 11's-12's second zone.

Oh yeah.........bring your Honda on down........I'll feed it to my Blazer!

 

haha.. thats exactly what im sayin.. Theres 4 fast hondas that i saw in ct 2 civic hatch's, and 2 crx's. 2 in the 11's, and 2 in the 13's. I'm tellin you.. remember that black civic i posted? Heres a link to the page of the company that built it. http://trickengineering.com/site/customers/brandon_civ.htm I can assure you that took a little more than $2,000 Considering a good h22 alone will cost you that. I had a friend who put an h22 in a 93 hatch back in high school, He wound up spending close to 5 grand to put it in. And thats a bone stock jdm h22. No forced induction, No nitrous. Nothing.. It even had the factory plastic air box.

 

$$$ for $$$ a truck vs a civic under a small budget the civic has the advantage.

It costs about $5000 to make a 11 sec honda but alot more to make a 11 sec Blazer. I don't get why we are still arguing about this.

It's like that guy that was saying you can only get an exhaust system for $2000 and i proved him that you can get a turbocharger, a header, an exhaust, injectors and an ecm and tuning for that much.

Slammed86, if that guy spent close to $5000 on a motor swap that doesn't mean he went about it the most cost effective way. My friend baught a civic with a jdm GSR motor, GSR transmission and suspension mods for $600. We ran a 14 sec pass in it with a non-gsr ecm.

Show me a $600 truck...actually make it a $4000 truck that runs a flat 14 sec stock NA.

You really can't say it costs alot to make a honda fast based on what some amateur did.

 

I traded a Fiero ($200) for my truck.
Headers $500
Short block $1000
Tranny Stock 4.3
Rad. Stock 4.3
Cam & Lifters $150
Demon $400
Hei $85
Rear End Stock 3.42 posi
Oh yeah...I made my own mounts.
$2335 for a 12 sec Blazer thats not gutted and has A/c.For another 300 bucks I could have went LOW 11's with a lil' NOS.
Screw your HONDA!

 

Is that a joke?

Wow, it seems that you are pretty frustrated that hondas are easier to make fast..

yea, its a joke man.