and i dont mean the mcgard tuner locks... i'm talking about the ones that are like tuner lugs... but have an odd shaped hex key type tool to get them off. i had a 2 regular mcgard lock nuts crack and they r the best u can buy. that is why i wont use them anymore its not worth the chance of having to go through that again. the lugs were on a brand new vehicle and new centerline wheels they only on there for a couple months... when i went to rotate the tires... and put the key on ... they snapped. mcgard sent me there special tool for removing them... which did not work... i ended up having to nibble away at the lugs with a dremel and a cut off wheel and had to replace the studs. it took me at least 20 hrs to fix it.
ok so i'm getting mcgards, i know the size (12x1.5mm) now which ones. i looked at summit and there are 5 or more different ones. they need to work with my new boyds.