:werd: and their sq is great...i've used them for a long time in my truck...one thing i suggest though...like your dash speakers they actually mount to the grill if that makes sense...i reccomend taking and putting some washers on the studs where the speakers mount...but only the two furthest back..this way you're kinda "aiming" the speaker toward to front of the truck..make sense? try it and let me know what you thinkBigE441 said:eclipse