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A DEQ specialist claims to have isolated a insufficient voltage code, pinning it to corrosion of an O2 Sensor connector, on Tuesday the 26th. It's now Friday the 29th and he has not returned any of my daily calls requesting updates on progress and charges. Today I made a visit to the shop and he was out, I asked his receptionist for a call before shutdown for the weekend. I received no call and have no reason to believe he'll be working overtime this weekend on my account.



The S-10 is tucked safely away in the back of the shop blocked off by a garage door, three other vehicles and a wire gate at the street.



I want to call first thing Monday morning but will wait until the afternoon for a courtesy call, If he does not call, I'll secure a ride Tuesday morning to his shop — title in hand — and ask if he is capable of servicing the vehicle so it will pass the Oregon DEQ inspection? If so, when can I expect it?



Those are not unreasonable requests.


I'd like to give him more time and encouragement because he could be close to a fix and I've already invested one week and at least $500.00 in the guy and would rather not start from scratch with a new shop, but I suspect he's slackin hard and I don't trust him.


He replaced an OEM MAF that was less than 1 year old, I sucked air and paid him for it. On Tuesday I authorized a new O2 sensor, I'll pay for that too, but when I plug in my scanner before leaving his shop and the data monitor displays INCOMPLETES, I know it will not pass the test and will be in no mood to pay his labor charges.



If he's nowhere to be found on Tuesday, or is unwilling to turn over my vehicle, do I call the police? Will the police even respond to such a call, seems like a can of worms regardless
 

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Police will not respond to that. If you suck it up and pay the bill, he really has no choice but to give it back.
 

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At least report him to the BBB.
 

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AC Delco parts should have a two year warranty.
If you don't trust him at this point, pay your bill and get your truck out of his shop. Don't pay for any work you did not authorize.
 
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Did you get an estimate? Anything over 10% of the estimate needs your approval.
 

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Personally I would make sure to be the first thing he see's as he is walking into work on Monday morning. It won't give him the opportunity to avoid you or make something up. Sounds to me like he's just making guesses as to the root of the problem and doesn't want to fess up that he hasn't guessed correctly yet. Either that or he really f*ed something up in some way.

+1 to all above replies, pay for whatever repairs you authorized and only pay for work that is actually completed. If he won't relinquish your vehicle to you at that point, you do have legal recourse. Unfortunately the path you have to take varies from state to state so you will need to do some research online and figure out how your state handles disputes etc between an auto shop and an individual. Any call to the police will likely result in your being told that it is a civil matter and that you need to take it to civil court, but the dispatcher should at least be able to point you in the right direction to get that started. Some states do have protections in place that allow you to immediately reclaim your vehicle regardless of any dispute and in that type of situation the police are usually present when you reclaim the vehicle from the shop but you have to do some paperwork work at the courthouse first.

Regardless, get your truck away from that shop asap. If you don't trust the guy, be rid of him. Find a shop that you can trust cause the shop your truck is currently at is definitely being shady about something...
 
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I don't know what a DEQ specialist is but it sounds like your state has given them a license to steal.
 

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I don't know what a DEQ specialist is but it sounds like your state has given them a license to steal.
DEQ is Department of Environmental Quality. Most if not all states have this department, it's just labeled differently. A DEQ specialist is a shop that is officially licensed by the state to perform emissions repairs on a vehicle. No state gives any shop a license to steal. Yes, there are dishonest shops and techs out there and it sounds like the OP has been unfortunate in that he found one of them. Fact is there are far more good shops and techs, both state licensed and not, that perform honest repairs. Just because a state has licensed an individual or a repair facility doesn't mean they have a license to steal. Most, like myself, are honest in their work.
 

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I’d go with nailing his dogs to a tree,and skinning them,..that’s how you get down in the south.:haha:


Pay with a credit card,get your truck,and then shut the card down at your bank,and dispute the charges on your card. do not write a rubber check..that’s fraud,and you’ll get in trouble.

I was getting these strange charges on my card,and disputed them. My bank found more,and was able to get me back almost 6 months of these charges from some strange company back! Asked what they where? And they said no telling,probably some random card generator they use till something sticks...Anywhere from $35 to $120 at a time 2-3 times a week!!!...a few months later I saw one again! went crazy how the eff are these people doing this on a new card?!?! turns out it was TGI Friday’s the whole time,lol. Thanks for the 6 months of free steaks&pitchers of beer Mickey Fickeys!!:haha:
 

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@twodavem any updates? I'm curious how this plays out...
 

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I did pay with a credit card, and disputing the charges with my lender as suspect or unauthorized does sound like the proper vindictive approach, but also sounds troublesome.
 

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You claim the services paid weren’t rendered.

My buddy had his boat at a shop,and spent around $13,000 to get barnacles removes from the hall,the Diesel engines maintenanced,and the hull waxed..they kept dicking around similar to your situation. When he came to get the boat they wouldn’t return it without payment in full,so he charged it,then quickly disputed the charges as services not rendered...not only did he get his boat,and then money back he later sued them for damages since they incorrectly serviced the engines...he was awarded that as well a year or so later.
 

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The new hire say's wires are cut and spliced in places that don't make sense, including a mysterious new wire that is soldered from MAF to PCM and he's now trying to "cut me the huss" with a used wiring harness he just found but needs to inspect for the proper amount of wires and then extract from another vehicle that has/had auto transmission, my vehicle is manual.



Once this is hashed out, I'll be asking for his professional opinion on which parts/repairs were previously unnecessary, along with repairs that were necessary do to damage created by the "DEQ Specialist", in order to get complaint with Oregon Emissions Laws.







The bridge has not burned with the other guy and I hope to gather enough material evidence — receipts — for at least a partial refund, if he wants to inspect the vehicle in my presence I'll allow that and we'll see how it goes. I suspect I'll need to go beyond one on one negotiations to collect the full amount of damages he created. But for now the truck it's still not fixed and the new hire suspects the PCM may have been fried with the other guys experimental wiring.
 

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if it ran(even poorly ) when you gave it to him, and he performed work that was above and beyond the agreed upon servicing- let the credit card company do the footwork- they have lawyers on staff/call for that crap- sounds like you found one of those there self-proclaimed "elektronica geniusees"- aka part thrower/rewiring ass hats. The credit card company will dance his ass in front of Judge or get a summary judgement when he doesn't show- they can put a mewchanics lean on his business where you as a private citizen would have trouble with it.
 

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When Florida had an emissions inspection it was a license to steal. You could take your vehicle to one station and it would fail, take it to another and it would pass. Lines back up to the next county, total chaos. Finally, we got a governor that recognized it for what it was, a money making rip off and closed them down.
 
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