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Hey everyone so I just bought a 94’ S10 that has 215/75/15 tires and they are rubbing at the top on the tires in the front when I hit dips in the road.
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Suggestions? There’s no torsion bar that I can see. I’m just getting into s10s. Looking for a cheap solution if possible. Thanks in advance
 

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Welcome to the Forum. IIRC, the 2WD front suspension was coil springs/ shocks. The 4WD used torsion bars. The issue could be worn/ shot springs, or the OEM front suspension was modified by a previous owner. Can you post some underbody photos of the front end, and where the tire is rubbing in the wheel well? Does the rubbing occur when driving straight or when turning? Stock tires for the 2WD were either 205/75-15 or 215/65-15. I'm uncertain whether the present tire size is problematic or not.
 
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Looks to me like it's been lowered, a lot. Measure this drop block on rear spring and see how tall it is. If you figure out how much drop it has, you can look up on this forum what tire size will fit.
Nice looking truck!
 

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Looks to me like it's been lowered, a lot. Measure this drop block on rear spring and see how tall it is. If you figure out how much drop it has, you can look up on this forum what tire size will fit.
Nice looking truck!
How do I raise it back? Lol I want the new tires I just bought to fit. Thanks for the advice on the drop block I didn’t even know to look at that
 

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Definitely lowered....looks good. You can get new wheels/tires to match the existing height. Alternatively you can remove the lowering and go back to stock....
 

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Definitely lowered....looks good. You can get new wheels/tires to match the existing height. Alternatively you can remove the lowering and go back to stock....
If I didn’t have to get cow feed then I would keep it lowered but for now it’s mostly a work truck and I already bought tires so that’s why I gotta get it back up. If I take those drop blocks out will the back tires rub?
 

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Looks to me like it's been lowered, a lot. Measure this drop block on rear spring and see how tall it is. If you figure out how much drop it has, you can look up on this forum what tire size will fit.
Nice looking truck!
Would you happen to know the spec sizes of the front spindle and spring and I can measure them I guess? And see if I can find stock in a junk yard lol
 

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What do I adjust in the front to raise it back to stock? View attachment 371655 View attachment 371656
From the little I know, it may involve replacing the lowering springs and/ or spindles with stock parts. I can't tell for certain from the photos what is currently on the truck. IIRC, the 2WD stock spindles (knuckles) and coil springs were used on a broad number of models & years, so they ought to easily available at a salvage yard. To be certain, you can call a Dealer w/ the truck VIN, and they can identify the part numbers and what year(s) and model(s) used those parts.
 

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pretty sure you are missing all 4 front bump stops too... but i cant quite tell from the pics of the lower control arms. its definitely lowered in the springs. wheels+tire is too tall too... maybe take the tires back and say they sold you wrong size? technically its true...
 

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The tires presently on the truck are only marginally 'taller' than the larger of the OEM sizes (about 1/2" bigger OD, and about 1/4" smaller section width - per Nexen specifications). All other specifications are basically the same. And, the present tires are suitable for 15x7 wheels. Such minor tire differences would be not the source of the rubbing with a stock suspension. Since the OP wasn't aware that the truck had been (apparently) lowered, and the tire store didn't know, how can they be faulted for selling the ("technically") 'wrong' size?
 

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'hey buddy these tires are a bit taller than stock, they might rub a little'
'hey buddy these tires are rubbing a little'
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'hey buddy you have suspension pieces that are missing/modified/deteriorated'
... are 3 things that OP's tire dealer/installer should have informed him of before selling/installing/safety checking the tires. if he used a chain store and/or a credit card those tires can be returned. i am just letting OP know he may have that option and in my opinion it appears to be his best path out of the problem.
 

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are you arguing or asking for help, itchy?

if your tires are rubbing they are not safe. no tire shop would put rubbing tires on the average customers vehicle due to warranty and liability... this is a very simple concept.
you sure are acting 'smart' despite being so ridiculously wrong.

wrong again itchy...:


the cheap solution is: OP's tires didnt rub before he went to the tire shop, they put bigger out of spec tires on, they rub and are technically a safety hazard.clearly he was unaware of the issues before he showed up here and that is technically on the tire dealer for not informing him of the safety hazard. any shop with even a smidge of a reputation to protect is going to work with him.
and if the shop wont take care of it the purchase warranty on the credit card will... or he can do a chargeback on a credit card as well.
So interesting.
 

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Well said.
 

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pretty sure you are missing all 4 front bump stops too... but i cant quite tell from the pics of the lower control arms...
If you look closely in the pictures the lower control arms still have the standard bump stops installed.
Hey everyone so I just bought a 94’ S10 that has 215/75/15 tires and they are rubbing at the top on the tires in the front when I hit dips in the road. View attachment 371648
Suggestions? There’s no torsion bar that I can see. I’m just getting into s10s. Looking for a cheap solution if possible. Thanks in advance
Your truck looks nice, especially for it's age. You could try to get shorter tires, but then you'll eliminate even more ground clearance, which sounds like that's something your avoiding.

I'd guess the front was lowered either by the factory spindles being replaced with lowering spindles or more than likely with aftermarket springs or by modifying the original springs by cutting or heating with a torch. Probably not likely the spindles, and that's something you can measure and compare. If you research S10 drop spindles online you can find the measurements to compare.

Most likely it was springs. If you want to go back to stock height you can swap out for factory springs from another truck of the same type/engine/suspension at the junkyard. Search this forum and you'll be able to find more info regarding your original suspension. I recommend taking a picture of the RPO sticker located in your glove box. If it is the original sticker (the VIN will match the VIN on your dash at the bottom of the driver's side windshield) it will show all the factory option codes related to your truck. After you know which parts you have or need you can search the forum for the best way to change out the springs. It can be tricky, but many people including myself have followed what others have documented. Just be smart and use logic because there have been some sketchy examples done by people. Or pay an expert to switch them out. There's no shame in that.

Hard to tell but the rear was probably lowered by blocks. That will be easy to reverse. Lift the back of the truck up until the axle is no longer loaded and support the truck with jack stands on the frame. Then loosen the u-bolts holding the axle to the springs enough to remove the blocks and or shims, then re-tighten the u-bolts. If the u-bolts hang too low with the blocks removed, you can replace them with factory u-bolts from an S10 at the junkyard. You'll have a serious rake to your truck until you change the front suspension to match, but that will give you clearance and capacity in the bed for whatever you need to haul.
 
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