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I live in the high country in Colorado 8850 elevation here in a small community. My truck is only getting 12.3 miles per gallon on the average. I get less than 200 miles out of a tank of gas. My truck was bought used a year ago. Have 157k mileage. ANYONE know of cheap way to increase my mileage. My daily drive habit consists of a five mile daily trip to take my granddaughter to her school. Very little or no highway miles, just my local store shopping trips, that about it. I will answer any questions presented to me .
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Primarily stop and go driving with a heavy 4 door S10 isn't going to get much better. I get 14-15 but do almost all 65mph freeway driving with my 02 Crew Cab. At 1000" elevation where the air is much denser. (More O2 in it.) I keep it close to 65 because 70+ would kill the MPG.
EPA estimates are 15 city 18 highway, but EPA figures are notoriously better than reality. They're tested on a dyno in a lab which removes air resistance among other things. Like altitude.
 

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Well what you are saying, I did in reality expect. I was hoping someone would tell me to change the spark plugs or something like that. Thank you for being honest and truthful. Saved me a lot time and probably money trying to change something that's not going to happen. Have a good.night. Work Safe, BE SAFE.
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Your elevation isn't helping. How do y'all breathe way up there?
Most 4..3Ls get about 1-2mpg better than a similar 5.7L.
My crew is getting a worked over L31... I figure if it's going to drink about the same amount of gas, I want better power.
 

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  1. Ensure your truck is running correctly....check for any diagnostic codes and live engine data....fuel trims ok?
  2. Check for proper tire inflation;
  3. Discard any unneeded weight.....golf clubs, extra tools, cinder blocks, etc. add weight that the vehicle must push....If you don't need it, remove from the truck;
  4. Slow gradual acceleration and slower top speeds pay off with fewer required stops at the gas station.
Short trips and winter temperatures mean the truck is often running cold or less than normal operating temperature....efficiency is much lower and that cannot be avoided....so do what you can and accept the mpg provided...
 

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I have basically the same truck as you, and ODS, with the 3.73 diff for mountain driving, and I have a similar terrain as you do, lots of hills and twists on the very coast of Maine. When I drive only around town here, I get 15-16. Your lower mpg is likely due to the lack of oxygen, as said, and maybe some driving habits peculiar to your routine. However you may benefit by making it easier for oxygen to get into and through your motor. Consider this: when I opened up the air intake and exhaust, to flow better, my mpg did absolutely improve noticeably under all circumstances. I pulled that snorkle on the air cleaner box off and put a piece of 1/2" hardware cloth over the hole to keep rodents and leaves out. That small neck on that snorkle is to reduce air noise, as they have done since the sixties; we would cut that neck off of our Impalas back then. Apparently GM marketing people had found that enough customers were made fearful by intake noise when they goosed it. Getting that snorkle off will increase the opening by double or more. And I went to a 2.5" Flowmaster muffler, and the larger 2.5" exhaust pipe that Walker/Dynomax was making, so all was larger from the CAT back. I certifiably gained mpg and gained more snap on low end acceleration. There is expense to the exhaust part of it, but it was worth it to me, and may have paid for itself. Maybe also make sure your CAT is not getting plugged, too.
 

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Great read. Have the same truck.
Did think the 4.3 is a bit of a pig on gas these last few months. Have been considering exhaust just for the fun factor but will include the snorkel removal and hope for the best.
 

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Great read. Have the same truck.
Did think the 4.3 is a bit of a pig on gas these last few months. Have been considering exhaust just for the fun factor but will include the snorkel removal and hope for the best.
Tomorrow I will be filling up, only about 140 miles this tank. STARTING with removing air filter for a tank to see if that makes a difference, Then maybe
seeing what happens. THANKS for you input.
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I have basically the same truck as you, and ODS, with the 3.73 diff for mountain driving, and I have a similar terrain as you do, lots of hills and twists on the very coast of Maine. When I drive only around town here, I get 15-16. Your lower mpg is likely due to the lack of oxygen, as said, and maybe some driving habits peculiar to your routine. However you may benefit by making it easier for oxygen to get into and through your motor. Consider this: when I opened up the air intake and exhaust, to flow better, my mpg did absolutely improve noticeably under all circumstances. I pulled that snorkle on the air cleaner box off and put a piece of 1/2" hardware cloth over the hole to keep rodents and leaves out. That small neck on that snorkle is to reduce air noise, as they have done since the sixties; we would cut that neck off of our Impalas back then. Apparently GM marketing people had found that enough customers were made fearful by intake noise when they goosed it. Getting that snorkle off will increase the opening by double or more. And I went to a 2.5" Flowmaster muffler, and the larger 2.5" exhaust pipe that Walker/Dynomax was making, so all was larger from the CAT back. I certifiably gained mpg and gained more snap on low end acceleration. There is expense to the exhaust part of it, but it was worth it to me, and may have paid for itself. Maybe also make sure your CAT is not getting plugged, too.
Ok, Maybe it is choking because it needs more air. Tomorrow I will be filling up. Only about 140 on this tank. When I get home I will pull out the air filter, for a tank full to see if that makes any difference, I get it at this altitude and my driving habits, I should not expect much, another guy suggested changing plugs and coil. That also is do-able I am sure with 156k on it this could not hurt anything. Thank you for your input, have a nice day
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Don't recommend pulling the air filter....you're risking engine damage....

Opening up the airbox and a free-flowing air filter (or no air filter) will help with power at WFO certainly. However I don't think you will see any efficiency improvement. The ECM adjusts fuel for many input parameters including air density and temp....If the mass of the air flow mass increases, then the gas injected will also increase accordingly....
 

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driving barley 5 to 10 miles a day isnt helping. Your engine isnt ever getting warmed up, and probably not oging into closed loop operation, meaning, its using a predetermined fuel map until it gets warmed up to use the sensors.
Engines are really designed to be run at least 30 minutes and at highway speeds.
The best you could do is find a dyno tuner in your area and have your truck tuned.
It will help. youre at the max limits of GM guel map in terms of elevationa nd cold, and you really need to get it tuned to your lcoation to work best.
past that, sell it and get a different vehicle, as the s10 was never designed to be fuel efficient
 

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Don't recommend pulling the air filter....you're risking engine damage....

Opening up the airbox and a free-flowing air filter (or no air filter) will help with power at WFO certainly. However I don't think you will see any efficiency improvement. The ECM adjusts fuel for many input parameters including air density and temp....If the mass of the air flow mass increases, then the gas injected will also increase accordingly....
I Don't plan on leaving a big air hole. Plan on filling in with a couple layers of car wash cheese cloth to trap some of the particles, checking to see if I just had a clogged air filter first, thank you for your concern.
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driving barley 5 to 10 miles a day isn't helping. Your engine isn't ever getting warmed up, and probably not going into closed loop operation, meaning, its using a predetermined fuel map until it gets warmed up to use the sensors.
Engines are really designed to be run at least 30 minutes and at highway speeds.
The best you could do is find a dyno tuner in your area and have your truck tuned.
It will help. youre at the max limits of GM fuel map in terms of elevation nd cold, and you really need to get it tuned to your lcoation to work best.
past that, sell it and get a different vehicle, as the s10 was never designed to be fuel efficient
I am retired limited income, I am thinking about doing the plugs and coil suggested on another page here. First checking to see if it choking because of dirty air filer. Thanks for your comments. Can't change much in the daily drive. House and Truck both paid for now and living the dream.
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Saturday night 01-28-2023:
This afternoon I decided to take the first basic step to the quest to increase my gas mileage in the Colorado High Country. I removed the air filter and inspected it. It was noticeably dirty, when I held it up to the sun and looked thru it there was very little light showing, even though it was a Blue Sky Full Bright Sun Day. The truck is in the garage now and the filter still in the box sleeping tonight on the passengers front seat, anxiously awaiting its installation on Sunday morning. I had just filled up Friday evening so I am planning on driving it now until this tank runs out. Check my mileage at the start of the next tank and go from there. My next best guess is to do a full tune-up with plugs and coil. This vehicle was purchased at a elevation of 879 feet where it had been driven its first 153K. I bought it a year ago and have driven over 4000 miles at my current location here at 8850. So I am hoping a little basic maintenance here will get me the results I am wanting. Thanks for your comments have a Safe Week and I will keep you all updated.
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Clean air filter/intake system, free flowing exhaust, good spark plugs and ignition system, tire pressure, reduce cargo weight, and control of the go fast pedal.

I have an L31 5.7 swap and its just as good if not better than the 4.3. The above is all I ever do and mileage only goes down if I neglect them.
 

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Clean air filter/intake system, free flowing exhaust, good spark plugs and ignition system, tire pressure, reduce cargo weight, and control of the go fast pedal.

I have an L31 5.7 swap and its just as good if not better than the 4.3. The above is all I ever do and mileage only goes down if I neglect them.
Great to know, thanks for you comments. Please send me some photos of your Crew Cab , some exterior shots and at least on wide shot of your engine compartment, would love to see how it all fits in.
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Do yourself a favor and pull a plug before you spend the money on a set. As long as they're firing correctly, have decent color and are not sooted up, new ones won't make a bit of difference. Same with the coil - either it works or it doesn't.
Tossing the orignal spider injector setup for an upgrade would be my first move.
I wonder what the elevation is doing to your mileage? Any time I visit altitudes like yours it feels like engines have about half the power of what they do at my home elevation of just over 3000ft.
It may just be something you have to live with, one of the prices to pay for living in beautiful mountains. Us flatlanders get better mileage but nothing to look at.
 

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The trucks of this era were not renown for being hallmarks for fuel efficiency, and inherently few trucks are. Given the particular truck and the environment in which it operates (winter, low speed/ stop & go drives, altitude, duration of 4WD usage, etc.) whatever you do will, at best, maybe yield a negligible increase in mileage. Your best bet, for economical ("cheap") solutions for optimal mileage, is to just keep it tuned and regularly serviced with standard (quality) parts and procedures. I don't know what your "hoped for results" are, but I wouldn't hold your breath for any major improvements.
 
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