well, i'll tell y'all now....the people in my town think mini trucks are a joke. i even had one rice burnin import fool tell me my xtreme was a poor substitute for a body drop. and he was in the same car club as me at that time. well, i set him straight at one show this past fall. i rolled into this show and the blacktop was less than smooth. so needless to say the frame rails not only dragged the asphalt, but i threw sparks!!!! only fitting that weasel was right behind me!!!! he now has changed his attitude toward my xtreme and gives me mad props for it!!!! the 3 inch at front and 4 inch at rear suspension drops helped alot too!!!!