why wouldn't you be able to? as long as they work properly then you shouldn't have a problem but some places are funny about customizing, try driving through virginia. 
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Is this legal??
Not sure where to post this. It's about exterior but i figured it'd be easier to post here since this is all Jersey people coming in these threads.
What's the law(s) for rear taillights and such? My truck is going in the shop soon for some body work in the back and i was just curious to the laws for taillights. I wanna weld on the pan, and shave the tailgate with the license box frenched in. Not sure if i wanna change the lights though, cause i don't know whats legal in Jersey. I was thinking led's or something in the rollpan but can i do that? I like the tribal in the pan, but i thought you need that red reflector on the sides??
Thanks...
What's the law(s) for rear taillights and such? My truck is going in the shop soon for some body work in the back and i was just curious to the laws for taillights. I wanna weld on the pan, and shave the tailgate with the license box frenched in. Not sure if i wanna change the lights though, cause i don't know whats legal in Jersey. I was thinking led's or something in the rollpan but can i do that? I like the tribal in the pan, but i thought you need that red reflector on the sides??
Thanks...
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some states have diff. laws... so i wanna make sure. I be pissed off if i spend the cash on all this and then get hassled everyday! My town specifically loves to catch you for anything.
I thought a jersey law was you needed those red reflectors on the sides in the rear, just like yellow is needed up front... that's why i'm asking. but i'm hoping i'm wrong!
I thought a jersey law was you needed those red reflectors on the sides in the rear, just like yellow is needed up front... that's why i'm asking. but i'm hoping i'm wrong!
just make sure you have a license plate light when you put it in the tailgate..........(stupid NJ)
Ok heres the deal. Any modification of OEM equipment is illegal. However, most officials will pass it over if its still a pretty good sized taillight, like Cadillac, Supra, Vette...LEDs are illegal no matter what. Putting a red reflector on your truck won't impress many, and certainly won't pass inspection. Morgan is right, you will need to put a light above the plate where ever it is.
ok... i see what your saying. I wasn't trying to say i was gonna put a red reflector on the truck.... anyway...from what your saying, any idea's i got are illegal so i'll just have to pass on it then, cause if it's illegal in NJ, my town sure as hell isn't gonna let me get away with it! Thanks for the help!
Don't matter if the license is in the tailgate though, right?
Don't matter if the license is in the tailgate though, right?
lol..it doesnt matter if its in the tailgate, but if its canted, then they could give you a ticket because they gotta turn their heads to look at it..
lol
that figures
that figures
fock em. Do what you please. I used to think the same way about doing things(the leagal way). I'm not gonna let some stupid communist state ruin my ideas. I can't wait till it gets warm out so I can cruise and see how many cops mess with me. LOL
I would say screw them....i had all my mods done and while my truck was in for work my inspection was up. It passed all good though....plus there are certain placs that you can take it in my town (as well as any) that would let it slide.
Here in pa there is a law that as long as you can see the taillights from such and such a distance it is legal. (I think 50ft maybe)
If you had the money to pay for the tail lights to get shaved I would go for it!!
There is a badass hombre that was in a trucking mag a year or two ago. He had a set of custom taillights to keep johnny law off him that popped up from the bed. They were tight and you could not tell when they were flipped down.
Or you could always do the kickass tail light flip and then just seal up the tailgate and mold the roll pan. That would look sweet.
Do what you like because if you don't you will regret it later!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Here in pa there is a law that as long as you can see the taillights from such and such a distance it is legal. (I think 50ft maybe)
If you had the money to pay for the tail lights to get shaved I would go for it!!
There is a badass hombre that was in a trucking mag a year or two ago. He had a set of custom taillights to keep johnny law off him that popped up from the bed. They were tight and you could not tell when they were flipped down.
Or you could always do the kickass tail light flip and then just seal up the tailgate and mold the roll pan. That would look sweet.
Do what you like because if you don't you will regret it later!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
39:3-61.3. Stop lamps; construction, placement and use
Every stop lamp shall be so constructed, placed and used as to indicate by a substantial increase in illumination that the service brakes of the vehicle have been applied, except as otherwise provided in this section. Stop lamps are not required to be lighted when the emergency feature of trailer brakes is activated by means of either manual or automatic control on the towing vehicle. Stop lamps on a towing vehicle need not be lighted when service brakes are applied to the towed vehicle or vehicles only. No stop lamp need be lighted as such when it is in use as a turn signal or when it is turned off by the turn signal switch as provided in paragraph (b) of section 8 of this act.
L.1964, c. 136, s. 9.
39:3-48. Visibility
(a) Whenever there shall be in this article a requirement declared as to the distance from which certain lamps and devices shall render objects visible or within which such lamps or devices shall be visible, said provisions shall apply during the times when lighted lamps are required upon a straight level unlighted highway under normal atmospheric conditions unless a different time or condition is expressly stated.
(b) The light from every required exterior lamp on a vehicle shall be visible from a distance of 500 feet in the directions set forth therefor in paragraph (d) of this section except that the light illuminating a license plate shall cause the license plate to be clearly legible from a distance of 50 feet to the rear. Such visibility is not required when the light is obscured by another vehicle in a combination of vehicles.
(c) Every required Class A reflector shall be visible from all distances between 100 and 600 feet, and every required Class B reflector shall be visible from all distances between 100 and 350 feet, when illuminated by the upper beam of headlamps.
(d) Light from every headlamp, other driving lamp, clearance lamp, identification lamp and single-faced turn signal mounted on or at the front of a vehicle, and front parking light, shall be visible to the front; that from every side-marker lamp and side reflector shall be visible to the side; that from every stop lamp, tail lamp, clearance lamp, identification lamp, back-up lamp and reflector mounted on the rear, from every turn signal mounted on the rear of a vehicle or the cab of a truck tractor, and from any rear parking lamp, shall be visible to the rear; that from any double-faced turn signal shall be visible to the front and to the rear at the side on which such lamp is mounted; and that from any projecting load marker lamp or combination marker lamp shall be visible from the direction stated in the provision requiring it.
Amended by L.1964, c. 136, s. 1.
39:3-49. Headlamps
Except as hereinafter in this article provided, every motor vehicle other than a motor-drawn vehicle and other than a motor cycle shall be equipped with at least 2 approved headlamps mounted at the same level with an equal number on each side of the front of the vehicle. Every motor cycle shall be equipped with at least 1 and not more than 2 approved headlamps. Every motor cycle equipped with a side car or other attachment shall be equipped with a lamp on the outside limit of such attachment capable of displaying a white light to the front.
Amended by L.1964, c. 136, s. 2.
39:3-50. Color of lights, permits; cancellation or revocation of permits
All lamps and reflectors, which display a light visible from directly in front of a vehicle as authorized by this subtitle, shall exhibit lights substantially white, yellow or amber in color.
(a) The color of light emitted or reflected by exterior lamps or reflectors on a vehicle shall be as follows, except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b), (c) and (d) of this section:
White when the lamp is a headlamp, or spot lamp, or illuminates a license plate or a destination sign; or is located on the outside limit of a side car or other attachment on a motor cycle;
Substantially white or amber when the lamp is a side-cowl or fender lamp, running-board or other courtesy lamp, front parking lamp, back-up lamp, auxiliary driving lamp; or a turn signal on or facing the front;
Substantially red or amber when the lamp is a turn signal or a stop lamp on or facing the rear;
Red when any other lamp or any reflector is on the rear or on either side at or near the rear, except as otherwise provided in paragraph (f) of section 39:3-61 for a combination marker lamp;
Amber when any other lamp or reflector is on the front or on either side other than at or near the rear.
(b) Lamps and reflectors on projecting loads shall emit or reflect light with color as provided in section 10 of this act.
(c) No person shall drive or move any vehicle or equipment upon any street or highway equipped with any device or lamp thereon capable of or displaying a light of any other color than permitted by this section, except: an authorized emergency vehicle, an authorized school bus, or a vehicle authorized by a permit issued by the director.
(d) A permit authorizing a vehicle to be equipped with a lamp capable of or displaying a flashing light, except as provided in 39:3-54 or a light of a color other than permitted by this section, visible from directly in front of said vehicle, may be issued by the director when necessary, in his discretion, for the reasonable and safe movement of traffic. The permit shall specify the type and color of such lamp and the conditions under which a person may drive or move the vehicle with said lamp displaying a light. The permit shall be valid only when the specifications and conditions contained therein are complied with.
The director may cancel or revoke a permit issued under authority of this section whenever the conditions for its issuance no longer exist or on any other reasonable grounds.
Amended by L.1951, c. 24, p. 121, s. 1; L.1964, c. 136, s. 3.
39:3-52. Additional lighting equipment
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two side cowl or fender lamps which shall emit a white or yellow light without glare. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than one running board courtesy lamp on each side thereof which shall emit a white or yellow light without glare. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with a back-up lamp either separately or in combination with another lamp; except that no such back-up lamp shall be continuously lighted when the motor vehicle is in forward motion.
I think that about covers it, don't you?
LED lamps are not illegal. A large majority of vehicles from motorcycles to tractor trailers make use of LED lamps. LED's retain the ability to be visible at distances of over 500 feet and are a safety enhancement due to their ability to be seen better during inclement weather.
There is no requirement as to what type of lighting is used. Granted it is of the proper amount, location, and visibility required by law. If you are using thin strips of lighting on the vehicle, it is obvious it will not have the power to be seen properly at the distance regulations set by the NJDOT.
Side markers are not illegal. They must be of amber color when illuminated and located to the front of the door panels. This is to show cross traffic as to which is the front and which is the rear of the vehicle. Much like that of a boat. The green and red being left and right, and white being the stern of the boat.
-Mikey
Every stop lamp shall be so constructed, placed and used as to indicate by a substantial increase in illumination that the service brakes of the vehicle have been applied, except as otherwise provided in this section. Stop lamps are not required to be lighted when the emergency feature of trailer brakes is activated by means of either manual or automatic control on the towing vehicle. Stop lamps on a towing vehicle need not be lighted when service brakes are applied to the towed vehicle or vehicles only. No stop lamp need be lighted as such when it is in use as a turn signal or when it is turned off by the turn signal switch as provided in paragraph (b) of section 8 of this act.
L.1964, c. 136, s. 9.
39:3-48. Visibility
(a) Whenever there shall be in this article a requirement declared as to the distance from which certain lamps and devices shall render objects visible or within which such lamps or devices shall be visible, said provisions shall apply during the times when lighted lamps are required upon a straight level unlighted highway under normal atmospheric conditions unless a different time or condition is expressly stated.
(b) The light from every required exterior lamp on a vehicle shall be visible from a distance of 500 feet in the directions set forth therefor in paragraph (d) of this section except that the light illuminating a license plate shall cause the license plate to be clearly legible from a distance of 50 feet to the rear. Such visibility is not required when the light is obscured by another vehicle in a combination of vehicles.
(c) Every required Class A reflector shall be visible from all distances between 100 and 600 feet, and every required Class B reflector shall be visible from all distances between 100 and 350 feet, when illuminated by the upper beam of headlamps.
(d) Light from every headlamp, other driving lamp, clearance lamp, identification lamp and single-faced turn signal mounted on or at the front of a vehicle, and front parking light, shall be visible to the front; that from every side-marker lamp and side reflector shall be visible to the side; that from every stop lamp, tail lamp, clearance lamp, identification lamp, back-up lamp and reflector mounted on the rear, from every turn signal mounted on the rear of a vehicle or the cab of a truck tractor, and from any rear parking lamp, shall be visible to the rear; that from any double-faced turn signal shall be visible to the front and to the rear at the side on which such lamp is mounted; and that from any projecting load marker lamp or combination marker lamp shall be visible from the direction stated in the provision requiring it.
Amended by L.1964, c. 136, s. 1.
39:3-49. Headlamps
Except as hereinafter in this article provided, every motor vehicle other than a motor-drawn vehicle and other than a motor cycle shall be equipped with at least 2 approved headlamps mounted at the same level with an equal number on each side of the front of the vehicle. Every motor cycle shall be equipped with at least 1 and not more than 2 approved headlamps. Every motor cycle equipped with a side car or other attachment shall be equipped with a lamp on the outside limit of such attachment capable of displaying a white light to the front.
Amended by L.1964, c. 136, s. 2.
39:3-50. Color of lights, permits; cancellation or revocation of permits
All lamps and reflectors, which display a light visible from directly in front of a vehicle as authorized by this subtitle, shall exhibit lights substantially white, yellow or amber in color.
(a) The color of light emitted or reflected by exterior lamps or reflectors on a vehicle shall be as follows, except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b), (c) and (d) of this section:
White when the lamp is a headlamp, or spot lamp, or illuminates a license plate or a destination sign; or is located on the outside limit of a side car or other attachment on a motor cycle;
Substantially white or amber when the lamp is a side-cowl or fender lamp, running-board or other courtesy lamp, front parking lamp, back-up lamp, auxiliary driving lamp; or a turn signal on or facing the front;
Substantially red or amber when the lamp is a turn signal or a stop lamp on or facing the rear;
Red when any other lamp or any reflector is on the rear or on either side at or near the rear, except as otherwise provided in paragraph (f) of section 39:3-61 for a combination marker lamp;
Amber when any other lamp or reflector is on the front or on either side other than at or near the rear.
(b) Lamps and reflectors on projecting loads shall emit or reflect light with color as provided in section 10 of this act.
(c) No person shall drive or move any vehicle or equipment upon any street or highway equipped with any device or lamp thereon capable of or displaying a light of any other color than permitted by this section, except: an authorized emergency vehicle, an authorized school bus, or a vehicle authorized by a permit issued by the director.
(d) A permit authorizing a vehicle to be equipped with a lamp capable of or displaying a flashing light, except as provided in 39:3-54 or a light of a color other than permitted by this section, visible from directly in front of said vehicle, may be issued by the director when necessary, in his discretion, for the reasonable and safe movement of traffic. The permit shall specify the type and color of such lamp and the conditions under which a person may drive or move the vehicle with said lamp displaying a light. The permit shall be valid only when the specifications and conditions contained therein are complied with.
The director may cancel or revoke a permit issued under authority of this section whenever the conditions for its issuance no longer exist or on any other reasonable grounds.
Amended by L.1951, c. 24, p. 121, s. 1; L.1964, c. 136, s. 3.
39:3-52. Additional lighting equipment
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two side cowl or fender lamps which shall emit a white or yellow light without glare. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than one running board courtesy lamp on each side thereof which shall emit a white or yellow light without glare. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with a back-up lamp either separately or in combination with another lamp; except that no such back-up lamp shall be continuously lighted when the motor vehicle is in forward motion.
I think that about covers it, don't you?
LED lamps are not illegal. A large majority of vehicles from motorcycles to tractor trailers make use of LED lamps. LED's retain the ability to be visible at distances of over 500 feet and are a safety enhancement due to their ability to be seen better during inclement weather.
There is no requirement as to what type of lighting is used. Granted it is of the proper amount, location, and visibility required by law. If you are using thin strips of lighting on the vehicle, it is obvious it will not have the power to be seen properly at the distance regulations set by the NJDOT.
Side markers are not illegal. They must be of amber color when illuminated and located to the front of the door panels. This is to show cross traffic as to which is the front and which is the rear of the vehicle. Much like that of a boat. The green and red being left and right, and white being the stern of the boat.
-Mikey
I found that same thing the other day...
39:3-46. Definitions relative to illuminating devices
39:3-61. Lamps and reflectors required on particular vehicles
(a) Every motor vehicle other than a motor cycle and other than a motor-drawn vehicle shall be equipped on the front with at least 2 headlamps, an equal number at each side, and with 2 turn signals, one on each side; and on the rear with 2 tail lamps, 2 stop lamps, 2 turn signals and 2 reflectors, one of each at each side
So i'm guessing like i stated prior....... you need the red reflectors for legality reasons, not to impress....... that is if you want it totally legal. but i didn't notice anything about the need of yellow up front!?
so i dont see why changing stock tails is illegal after reading that?
39:3-46. Definitions relative to illuminating devices
39:3-61. Lamps and reflectors required on particular vehicles
(a) Every motor vehicle other than a motor cycle and other than a motor-drawn vehicle shall be equipped on the front with at least 2 headlamps, an equal number at each side, and with 2 turn signals, one on each side; and on the rear with 2 tail lamps, 2 stop lamps, 2 turn signals and 2 reflectors, one of each at each side
So i'm guessing like i stated prior....... you need the red reflectors for legality reasons, not to impress....... that is if you want it totally legal. but i didn't notice anything about the need of yellow up front!?
so i dont see why changing stock tails is illegal after reading that?
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