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I dont know why I did it, I spent a few months searching online classifieds for a 55-57 chevy truck shell and watched this IHC drop in price and found myself in a 2nd property owned by a guy walking a thin line of his wife: "You need to get rid of these trucks" and inner self: "I like IHC trucks" he had 4 of these big 2-ton trucks and 1 was in his garage he was making his own frame rails and rebuilding a ford powestroke diesel- which was made by international. It was a big hassle getting everything into my rented trailer and that guy did 90% of the heavy lifting and wouldn't take a dime more than $450.


Harvester by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I have zero knowledge of International trucks. The IHC guy said it was '40s' year range, google says the KBS6 which the serial tag claims the truck is wasn't made until 1947, The S means it came with a 2 speed rear axle. So no way that bed came with this cab. (the paint does seem less faded on the back) IHC guy said he picked them up already a pair, and I think the bed is more likely from the 50s. It has lots of remnants of the original wiring, only 1 door pin was a bolt, rust Ive seen that needs to be addressed is on the passenger side.


Harvester by Miko Hall, on Flickr


Harvester by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I don't know what direction to take it , Maybe Joedoh it on a 2wd s10 frame?
this 1 will probably be for sale after getting it on the road, but I know these Harvesters dont demand nearly as much cash as the ford or chevy bodies.


Harvester by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Harvester by Miko Hall, on Flickr


Google photo, but it should of looked like this assembled.

Untitled by Miko Hall, on Flickr


I found another IHC guy putting a 1937 cab on an S10 frame- looks like a perfect fit


Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Ihc by Miko Hall, on flickr
 

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I hope I don’t fall in love with it too much and end up keeping it, i need to keep my vehicles to a manageable size.

it was joedoh that made me start looking for old trucks, his trucks looked like a lot of fun to cruise around, but I’m not going to use my 1992 AWD s10, it has quite a few cool chassis upgrades and I’m set on using it for a tri-5 truck, so I need to find another frame for this harvester. There are a couple 2wd s10s on the market place now for less than $500.


My biggest hurdle now is space. The cab is sitting in the truck bed of my 92 right now and the harvester bed is in the front lawn. I’m waiting until a friend of mine has some spare time and we’ll drag the bed sideways through the backyard gate.
Still haven’t found a rural house with some land, but all the financial stuff is set aside when I do.
 
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The only thing about putting it on a s10 chassis is the inability to run the front sheetmetal. Which I'm not opposed to but the S10 chassis and front suspension is ugly IMO and having it all exposed would kinda blow.
 

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Yea, even with tubular control arms it ain't much to look at.
 

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What was the issues you heard with the front not working with an s10 frame, IFS hitting fenders? Rails to wide for the ‘needle nose?’

I was getting more certain about running the 2-ton style front fenders and old fold up style hood.
I’ve seen a few ‘KB1’ harvester pickups on s10 frames, same cab, but they have the lift up hood and different fenders, I haven’t seen the KB6 style fenders in anything but an ‘all original’ kind of restoration.


progress isn’t moving right now due to fighting with the DMV over the title issue- they made me try to track down the titled owner but after 6-hours running the serial number in the .gov database not a single bit of information came out. (These truck’s don’t have vins, just model and serial number)
I’m going back tomorrow to try to get a vin certification and a county assessor to give it a value- once they have a way to charge my pocketbook I’m hoping they’ll agree to print a conditional title. With that kind of title it’s pretty much waiting for the titled owner to turn up, after 3 years I can switch to a clear title.
 

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I made enough progress with the title issue today to comfortably move forward with the build, and learned enough to feel that vintage vehicles without titles isn't a death sentence and aren't just 'part cars.'

While I was at the DMV I saw 1 of the sub $500 dollar S10s I saw for sale getting registered and driving off, haha

Space by Miko Hall, on Flickr


Heavy *** fenders

Pieces by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Pieces by Miko Hall, on Flickr

missing the fender signal on this 1
Pieces by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Pieces by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I think Im going to do some clean up on the door and see if I can make out what it says

Pieces by Miko Hall, on Flickr


Not sure why the driver door is green, it's the same red on the inside as the passenger door- maybe someone was sanding it down to older paint jobs?

Pieces by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Space by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Close up by Miko Hall, on Flickr

The worst of the rust

Space by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Space by Miko Hall, on Flickr

only 53,000 miles on the odometer, anyone know what the hole used to be? A clock? Radio?

Close up by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Space by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I couldn't get the windshield vent to pop open

Close up by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Close up by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Close up by Miko Hall, on Flickr

back glass seems fine

Close up by Miko Hall, on Flickr

The dents are pretty bad, but pretty decided to let this be a 'patina' truck.

Close up by Miko Hall, on Flickr

google shot of a similar vision for this old ride

Pieces by Miko Hall, on Flickr
 
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Some of them had round dial AM radios in that spot. As far as front sheetmetal fitment I'm thinking about the sheer size of it all vs. the S10 front frame/suspension. I think I'd be after a smaller passenger car/truck grille shell, radiator, headlights, etc...
 

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Getting the 1/2 ton international stuff was my first plan, and still checking around for them. Also thinking about cutting some metal out of the 2-ton fenders and shrink them down, especially the wheel opening(well that would adding metal there) and chop the 6” that hang below the cab off. I’ll probably skip the front bumper with either front end.

Im thinking about just using the 1992 s10 I already have- the only part it has that would be hard to replace is the iron cast differential so I’ll throw a bravada aluminum front diff into it, and It’s full time awd now, but I’d trade the BW4472 for an NP136 part time awd and put it on a switch like Acehaag did So I can follow a more traditional hotrod formula with this truck.
 

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I finally quit a job I had for 15 years, 2 jobs for the last 3 years beat the ** out of me, and the 2nd job keeps pushing more and more hours. I bought the truck about a month ago and Ive had to work every weekend since. Winter is coming now so I'm not sure how much will get done but I've been thinking about this project a lot. I ran down to the car wash on the way to work and hosed it out. The smell was pretty awful, 3 pounds of rat* a birds nest and I wasn't sure if it was weeds or some of the seat stuffing (amounts are estimated guesses, experience with rat*** is minimal) I think finding the filler neck hole under all the brush confirms this thing probably sat in 6 foot tall weeds or something for it to grow that thick up through the hole into the truck.

I found 1 inner door handle, a can of old engine starting fluid, a window squeegee, some weird looking plastic clips, a metal file and some big roofing or rain gutter looking nails. I think if I dig deeper into the mud that the pressure washer couldn't get out I'll find the other inner door handle.

Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr


I pulled what was left of the original seat out, I don't have any interest in using any part of it, I was thinking of a more modern seat along with tracks.

Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I don't think these are bullet holes, more like a rod being rammed into or something.

Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I'd guess the passenger door is original, and driver door was replaced and repainted to match. The whole truck ad pass door is red with no other colors underneth driver door has been green and yellow and has red over the top.
The window trims and inner skin are a bit different with them too, so Id guess their from a different year.

Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr

The 235/75 tire is touching the top, if I shrink the opening down a little I think it'll be looking pretty sweet.

Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr


Ihc by Miko Hall, on Flickr


I was talking to a IHC group on facebook and found out the entire cab is different from a kb1-5 and kb6+ so 1/2 ton hood and fenders wont be a 'bolt on' but the kb6+ kept the same cab from the 1930's IHC trucks, so 1/2 ton hood and fenders from the older trucks should fit right up. (I haven't had any luck finding those parts yet.)

I did find this bad *** looking kb6 from a photographer on flickr; I love the front fenders turned into rear fenders and low stance, Id guess on a chevy or dodge dually frame. I'm not huge on the dually setup or the rims but from the measurements I found I think a 70s 1-ton chevy dually should have a front width of 65'' wms to wms, and my s10 with the zr2 rear axle is about 63'' front and back. The dually front rims are pretty much all backspace so I think with a rim with less backspace I can fill out the Harvester fenders pretty well with my 92 s10 chassis.




I was thinking Torque thrust rims?

They remind me of this style of factory IHC rims


 

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They could be, but I haven't found any exit holes.

I picked up a used canon SL1 eos rebel camara thingy, still don't really know how to use it. I didn't get a lens so I'm using an adapter to use my old 35mm k-mount lens, hopefully better than phone camera, but the digital stuff on the camera doesn't seem to play that well with the old lens.

Untitled by Miko Hall, on Flickr


I did a tune up on the 1992 s10 because it'd drive about a mile and quit and it took forever to get it to fire up again. Plug wires, and spark plugs, Now it runs better than Ive ever seen it- but I still don't drive it.

Flower bed
ihc9 by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I did some stripping.

ihc12 by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I want to find a way to use the original steering wheel, or at least use 1 that is a similar large diameter.

ihc20 by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Window vent works

ihc15 by Miko Hall, on Flickr

ihc14 by Miko Hall, on Flickr

drip rails will be shaved off

ihc21 by Miko Hall, on Flickr




I'm Trying to devise a plan to get the cab mounted on the s10 frame this summer without the city throwing a fit
 

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If you need a 2x4 S10 chassis, I have a super clean one. It's a southern chassis and the paint is still on it. It has a rear end in it, but it will need front control arms, spindles springs, etc. No front end suspension components.
Are you in Ohio?
 

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If you need a 2x4 S10 chassis, I have a super clean one. It's a southern chassis and the paint is still on it. It has a rear end in it, but it will need front control arms, spindles springs, etc. No front end suspension components.
Are you in Ohio?
Is it a long bed frame? If it is and he’s not interested in it I am....sorry to hijack your thread lol truck looks good like a fun project....I bet parts for those aren’t easy to find
 

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Thanks Mad Max, Ive decided I'm going to use my 1992 AWD chassis ext cab s10. Im going to grab the iron cast front differential out of it and throw in an aluminum version, to save the iron cast for my dream 55-57 chevy truck dream project.

Ncarlin260- I think that's why I got it so cheap, I haven't had any luck finding parts for it. Luckily I can bypass most of that and fill it full of old S10 parts.

I've secured a location to start the heavy lifting as well- it wont be ideal just a backyard and possibly 240v welder outlet. I have an idea to build a wooden ganrty crane over it and lift the 48 cab up, roll the cabless s10 chassis back and let the 48 cab hover over until I get all the mounts in place. I really-really want to get everything mobile again before winter so there will be some zip tie action of s10 gauges, heater box, etc inside of the 48.

with this whole pandemic crap I was stuck working 14-15 hour shifts just because the warehouse I drive forklift for supplies hospitals.

Looks like it's flip flopping soon and I'll be working short 6-8 hour shifts and weather is nice I can start stripping the s10 soon.
 

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reporting from a new secret location

Location by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Finally got the bed out of the front yard!

Top Secret location by Miko Hall, on Flickr

it Didn't really fit, and yes I had to do a Hazzard county entry through the window to get in.

Untitled by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Top Secret location by Miko Hall, on Flickr

The ideal shade tree mechanic setup--- without the tree. (it was turned into jack stands)

Top Secret location by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Top Secret location by Miko Hall, on Flickr

I'm getting a welding outlet put up right next to the house power box so I'll be able to run everything I need here, I might even get an HF carport if the sun starts frying me this summer.

The first job will probably be cutting out all the rust-through and welding in new panels.
The rust didn't destroy any structural steel, the cab mount is 1/4-ish inch plate. They look more like leaf spring style, not sure if I just want to fabricate a way to use poly S10 mounts or find some heavy duty looking tube mount. I'm going to mount the cab about 5'' off the frame so I don't have to cut too much of the floor out of the bed to fit the s10 frame.

Rusty by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Rusty by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Stock IHC is 3 of these mounts holding cab to frame.

Top Secret location by Miko Hall, on Flickr

upside
Top Secret location by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Top Secret location by Miko Hall, on Flickr

This guy jumped inside every truck bed over and over and sat there like he was waiting for a ride
 

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shade tree - without tree- 5 4x4 by 12- as posts with a center about 6 higher out of ground- run rope or cable in x pattern- cover with a tarp- as big as you need- and its temp and cheap.
 

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The welding outlet is up!
I started cutting out the rust- I haven't really done this kind of work yet, and last time I welded sheet metal I was using .035 wire and fluxcore and it turned out pretty warped so fingers crossed it's better this time around.

Rust bust by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Rust bust by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Rust bust by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Rust bust by Miko Hall, on Flickr


I found a good deal on interior door and window handles for $50, and picked up a set of original International fender signals (well from what I can tell are 'original' to the truck they were on.) My 1948 KBS6 is a USA IHC and the signals were "Advanced MFG Harbor City California 502" the lights I got were from a 1947 KBS7 Canadian produced IHC are "Yankee TurnFlex."

Maybe none of the fender mounted signals are factory, just a common dealer installation or similar.

Yankee by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Yankee by Miko Hall, on Flickr

Original IHC by Miko Hall, on Flickr


The signals mounted to the side of the cab on mine aren't Original. I've never seen any other IHC trucks with those and they are "Cycloflex" lights, not sure of the year but they have more modern wiring vs the old fabric wrapped wires the other signals have.

ihc10 by Miko Hall, on Flickr
 
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