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which company make the best headunit pioneer or alpine?
 

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Mostly a matter of preference... Alpine and Pioneer both have good reps... the difference is in options and aesthetics. The difference in quality as far as signal clarity and such is negligible. Might be worth your while to search some newsgroups and review sites on whichever model you chose to learn about it's reliability and other owners gripes / praise.
 

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yea..i think so too..
prolly a litto after christmas imma get me a pioneer 8500 :-D
 

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I have the 8400, its last years model of the 8500......its bad f'ing ass!!

pioneer cannot be beat for price vs. features vs. reliability vs. performance.....hands down they'll win everytime....

to get the same stuff in alpine, you'll spend 3 times as much....IMHO of course :)
 

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the Alpine HU im gettin (9805) is like $120 at some sites online, soooooooooo I doubt a Pioneer HU costs $40. just a thought.
 

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why only those 2?

Denon and Naki kill them in SQ......

But of those 2, unless we are talking bout the P1R or the DEX-DEQ combo, I'd say Alpine for an everyday run of the mill cd player....
 

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Eclipse is always an option in there too as well as Kenwood

I always run pioneer bang for the buck i havent beaten them...

and i have been running Pioneer HU's for close to 6 years now the current one has been in the truck since i bought the truck 4 years ago

and 120 for an alpine new in box isnt gonan have a lot of options.. and there is a pioneer in its range as well...
not saying alpine is bad... just in general pioneer is cheaper and just as nice
 

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um...check the specs for the 9805 Alpine...its got plenty of stuff, im guessing more than a $200 pioneer HU would have.
 

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Alpine 9805
Crutchfield lists it at 199.99 so i am gonna see what pioneer has AT crutchfield for less as a less expensive pioneer could be had elsewhere for cheaper
Key Features:
detachable face
MaxTune tuner
12 FM/6 AM presets
Bass Engine (bass center frequency, width, and level, plus treble center frequency and level adjustments)
Media Xpander
XM Satellite Radio controls (XM Radio subscription, tuner, antenna required to receive the satellite radio signal.) — service is available only in the lower 48 states, not available in Alaska, Hawaii, or U.S. territories
CD changer controls for Alpine Ai-NET changers only
optional auxiliary input
MOSFET internal amp
4-volt front and rear preamp outputs
4-volt subwoofer preamp outputs
clock
23 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels
CD frequency response 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio 105 dB
FM sensitivity 9.3 dBf
1-year warranty

Pioneer DEHp4500MP currently 189 at Crutchfield
Key Features:
detachable, fold-down face
blue and white display
plays MP3 files recorded on CD-R and CD-R/W
displays MP3 titles
Supertuner IIID
18 FM/6 AM presets
Easy EQ — five preset EQ curves with 3-band parametric adjustment
Front Image Enhancer — removes high and midrange frequencies from rear speakers
loudness
source level adjustment
MOSFET50 internal amp
XM radio-ready (XM Radio subscription, tuner, antenna required to receive the satellite radio signal) — service is available only in the lower 48 states, not available in Alaska, Hawaii, or U.S. territories
CD changer controls — add a Pioneer changer to your receiver order, and save $$ with Crutchfield's package discount
front and rear preamp outputs
optional auxiliary input
wireless remote
clock
22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels
CD frequency response 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio 94 dB
FM sensitivity 8 dBf
1-year warranty

DEH 1500 Fairly similar to the Alpine
129.99 at crutchfield...
Key Features:
detachable face
blue and white display
Supertuner IIID
18 FM/6 AM presets
plays CD-Rs and CD-RWs
Easy EQ — five preset EQ curves with 3-band tone adjustment
Front Image Enhancer — removes high and midrange frequencies from rear speakers
loudness (3 levels)
source level adjustment (sets volume for each source)
MOSFET50 internal amp
rear preamp outputs
clock
22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels
CD frequency response 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio 94 dB
FM sensitivity 8 dBf
1-year warranty

and yeah id say the pioneer is gonna be cheaper for the equal head unit... for around the same cash they add MP# and other extra options
 

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SMNW2003 said:
umm I hate Pioneer with a passion. My experience with them has been horrible with just about all of there products. Had Alpine for about a year now and have NEVER had a single problem with it. You get what you pay for, buy off the internet NOT retail if you want a good price!
i hardly find that statement true in the car audio world.....for the most part yes, but you always have exceptions!

Edesign Audio anyone? Avionixx? DEI?

;)

I've had nothing BUT pioneer decks, and i've had NO problems out of ANY of them.....Hell, my buddy is still using my old 8200r!! And that thing is what, four or five years old now? I personally have the DEH-P8400MP, and its freaking bad ASS!

Clarion is okay for the money if you can find a good deal on one...My bro likes his....
 

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SMNW2003 said:
how about you find me a Pioneer HU that plays MP3's, has EQ, 3 4V preouts, a signal/noise ration of over 105, time correction and a built in 3 way crossover for less than $300?
first proove to me you can tell the difference between 94 and 105

you would have to have better than perfect ears to tell that difference...
 

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first proove to me you can tell the difference between 94 and 105

you would have to have better than perfect ears to tell that difference...
:werd:

You're in an effin' car for god's sake! that SN difference will be made up in road noise unless you've plastered EVERY square inch of your vehicle in two layers of sound deadening material!
 

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HuTcH said:
first proove to me you can tell the difference between 94 and 105

you would have to have better than perfect ears to tell that difference...
so the difference may be negligiable but you cant tell me it doesnt make some difference even if it is a rather small detail.
 

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HuTcH said:
Alpine 9805
Crutchfield lists it at 199.99 so i am gonna see what pioneer has AT crutchfield for less as a less expensive pioneer could be had elsewhere for cheaper
Key Features:
detachable face
MaxTune tuner
12 FM/6 AM presets
Bass Engine (bass center frequency, width, and level, plus treble center frequency and level adjustments)
Media Xpander
XM Satellite Radio controls (XM Radio subscription, tuner, antenna required to receive the satellite radio signal.) — service is available only in the lower 48 states, not available in Alaska, Hawaii, or U.S. territories
CD changer controls for Alpine Ai-NET changers only
optional auxiliary input
MOSFET internal amp
4-volt front and rear preamp outputs
4-volt subwoofer preamp outputs
clock
23 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels
CD frequency response 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio 105 dB
FM sensitivity 9.3 dBf
1-year warranty

Pioneer DEHp4500MP currently 189 at Crutchfield
Key Features:
detachable, fold-down face
blue and white display
plays MP3 files recorded on CD-R and CD-R/W
displays MP3 titles
Supertuner IIID
18 FM/6 AM presets
Easy EQ — five preset EQ curves with 3-band parametric adjustment
Front Image Enhancer — removes high and midrange frequencies from rear speakers
loudness
source level adjustment
MOSFET50 internal amp
XM radio-ready (XM Radio subscription, tuner, antenna required to receive the satellite radio signal) — service is available only in the lower 48 states, not available in Alaska, Hawaii, or U.S. territories
CD changer controls — add a Pioneer changer to your receiver order, and save $$ with Crutchfield's package discount
front and rear preamp outputs
optional auxiliary input
wireless remote
clock
22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels
CD frequency response 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio 94 dB
FM sensitivity 8 dBf
1-year warranty

DEH 1500 Fairly similar to the Alpine
129.99 at crutchfield...
Key Features:
detachable face
blue and white display
Supertuner IIID
18 FM/6 AM presets
plays CD-Rs and CD-RWs
Easy EQ — five preset EQ curves with 3-band tone adjustment
Front Image Enhancer — removes high and midrange frequencies from rear speakers
loudness (3 levels)
source level adjustment (sets volume for each source)
MOSFET50 internal amp
rear preamp outputs
clock
22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels
CD frequency response 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio 94 dB
FM sensitivity 8 dBf
1-year warranty

and yeah id say the pioneer is gonna be cheaper for the equal head unit... for around the same cash they add MP# and other extra options
neither one of the pioneers has sub preout which is a very nice feature. almost everyone runs subs and it is nice to be able to control the volume of just the subs. every since i went alpine i won't run anything else.
 
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