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Crew Cab Sonoma LQ4/4L80E Swap

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Hey everyone, I'm new to this forum, but not forums. I've had my 2002 Sonoma for just over two years now, and built it into the prerunner it is over 14 months from the time I started cutting into it to its first drive. It's a different route than most go with these trucks, and it has been working awesome for me. Here's some specs and pictures before asking my questions.

Chopped frame in front of the firewall and grafted 1993 Ford Explorer frame with TTB and steering box. Cut and extended the beams and axles 4.5", pulling 16.5" of travel bumped and strapped. No driveshaft yet as I've been anticipating a motor and trans swap.
I cut the rear frame immediately behind the cab and rebuilt it with 1/4" wall 2x4 rect tube and 1.75"x.120 DOM tube. Schreiner 31 spline full floater 9" axle, 4 link suspension, 2.5" kings all around with king bumps, 35" tires, 5.29 gearing, caged front to rear. I built every component on the truck myself in my parent's driveway, including all the paneling, center console, etc. Had to modify the rear fiberglass to fit since nobody makes shortbed glass...

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Last weekend I picked up a 2000 2500 with the LQ4 and 4L80E to swap in. The 4.3L isn't the worst, but it has a solid misfire, leaks a heavy amount, and the 4L60E... sucks something fierce.

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I am very confident with fabrication and mechanic work. I have no hesitations with getting the drivetrain in place and plumbed. My hesitation lies with the wiring. I do not really have a great understanding of how everything in the truck talks to each other. I can figure out basic circuits and troubleshoot, but I am getting totally lost with the wiring. Note, I haven't started any wiring, just trying to plan it out. I've done a ton of searching through various forums, but haven't found an explanation that helps.

Since I have the entire donor vehicle I will be able to take the entire wiring harness and ecu and use those (I know I'll have to have it tuned to adjust shift points and axle ration/tire size).

When I compare the pinout for the 6.0L to the pinout for the 4.3L they are incredibly similar, with very few minor differences. I read that everyone who does their own wiring changes the pin locations, but why would I need to do this if I'm using the 6.0L harness and computer? Are the pins to the fuse block the ones being changed, or the pins to the computer? Do I just need to connect the ECU to the stock BCM?

Please help break it down for me. I'm not looking for a step by step procedure, but a more broad overview would be helpful (IE: Use the stock LQ4 computer, but needs to change to talk to ). I'm trying to save some cash from the Current Performance harness, but it's not out of the question.

Here's the pinout readings I'm using
file:///C:/Users/bodja/Downloads/PCM%20Conectors%201.pdf

Thanks in advance for your help!

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IIRC the 99 and 2000 LQ4 have cast iron heads. Other than the extra 100 lbs, if you plan to keep the LQ4 stock they're fine. Not good if you plan to hop it up. The 0411 computer that is in your truck is fine. You'll need to do a little re-pinning at the connector to the 4L80E from the 4L60E. Same connector. A few wires are different. Google it. I'd keep the original harness and just add or move what's needed. As you point out they are very similar. Wire it as a 2001 Silverado 2500 with a LQ4 and 4l80E. Brendan at lt1swap.com can do the engine/transmission segment swap in the PCM. BCM is fine.
IIRC the 99 and 2000 LQ4 have cast iron heads. Other than the extra 100 lbs, if you plan to keep the LQ4 stock they're fine. Not good if you plan to hop it up. The 0411 computer that is in your truck is fine. You'll need to do a little re-pinning at the connector to the 4L80E from the 4L60E. Same connector. A few wires are different. Google it. I'd keep the original harness and just add or move what's needed. As you point out they are very similar. Wire it as a 2001 Silverado 2500 with a LQ4 and 4l80E. Brendan at lt1swap.com can do the engine/transmission segment swap in the PCM. BCM is fine.
Keeping the motor stock for now. Reliability offroad is more important to me than gobs of power. I'm only on 31 spline axles, so I want to keep them alive as long as I can. Down the road I'd like to upgrade with a cam and heads.

What exactly needs to be repinned? If I'm using the 2500 harness and ecu that is already set up for the 4l80e, what needs to be changed?
You do not want to use the 2500 harness. Everything is in the wrong place. Both the 2500 and the S10 in 2001 and 2002 use the same PCM. It obviously is programmed differently for the LQ4 than for the 4.3 and same goes with the trans change. The S10 harness already fits the truck and fusebox w/o any alterations. All that needs repinning is the coils, injectors, a few sensors will need lengthening or shortening, and about 4 wires at the trans.
You need to have a copy of the trucks original PCM pin out and one for the LQ4/4L80E in 2001 or 02. Just go down the 160 pin positions, one at a time and only change what is different with the V8.
It is a slow tedious job and there is no room for errors.
When I got my LQ9/4L80E all wired up and turned the key the first time absolutely nothing happened. I had failed to connect one ground wire on the engine side of the firewall.
I'll be perfectly honest with you, if you can't do the repinning contact CPW.
Here's some stuff I have on the trans connector pin outs.



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Here's another. This forums server is being a PITA this morning. You can find plenty of You tube videos on how to open up the transmission connector to do the repinning. The pins don't just pull out. One you figure out how they come out, they do just pull out. You have to do a couple steps first.
All you're basically doing is deleting the 3-2 downshift wiring and rearranging the TCC pins.
Then on a separate external connector you need to add 2 wires from the 4L80E to the PCM for the ISS.
Look at this link:

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