[J_Rod]

. Especially the type of racing that would justify having an expensive carbon fiber hood.

S10's can't drag race? A dropped ZQ8 can't autocross? A super lightweight would benifit in both (though I think SCCA would get a little pissy if you tried to run a CF hood in stock and street prep classes)


Whats the point of a cowl induction hood when all 2nd Gens breath from behind the left headlight? It gives the truck a "muscle car/racer" look...hell, half the mods done in the minitruck industry "simulate" racing.

 

[96blazer]

S10's can't drag race? A dropped ZQ8 can't autocross? A super lightweight would benifit in both (though I think SCCA would get a little pissy if you tried to run a CF hood in stock and street prep classes)

Why not spend the money on the engine instead of an exterior part. The money is better spent making the truck go faster, not look faster.

If your truck is at the point where it would benefit from a CF hood, it should be a total race truck with all the mods already done to the engine, tranny, suspension, and should be almost all gutted out with everything that's not utilized in a race removed.

 

[Futuresweets10]

Thanks for the help, but i wasn't looking for a burn on being ricey, i was just looking for a release date on a hood. That is the one problem, i think, with this forum. a lot of members don't accept anything thats a little different from the norm.

So if you please, id like to know the release date on that hood if anyone could enlighten me. Thatd be great

Atrus

I dont think that is true.. Im not going to flame you for what you want to do, but the members here flame FOR THE NORM. Everyone wants carbon fiber so thats why most of the people here dont like it. I have seen many manufacturers (for different products) say they are in the process of produceing something when they really arent. They do this to keep you comming back to them looking for the product becasue they know that if you do then if they ever do decide to make the product you will buy it. I dont really think there is that big of a demand for CF hoods for s10's so it wouldnt surprise me if the companies are doing this.
THIS IS JUST MY OPINION

 

[wellsheit]

If the carbon fiber was black and you couldn't tell it was carbon fiber (except for performance) I'd take it. I won't pay for it though because as it's already been stated..... its a 2.2. 100 hp to the ground. Its like laying on your back and pissing straight up..... seems like a waste of money. But if having the carbon fiber look for your hood is what you want, by all means do it.

Brad

 

[TurboS10Xtreme]

S10's can't drag race? A dropped ZQ8 can't autocross? A super lightweight would benifit in both (though I think SCCA would get a little pissy if you tried to run a CF hood in stock and street prep classes)


Whats the point of a cowl induction hood when all 2nd Gens breath from behind the left headlight? It gives the truck a "muscle car/racer" look...hell, half the mods done in the minitruck industry "simulate" racing.

The SCCA would and then put you in the autox class.

Lets remeber that the truck industry came from and copied the hot rod. Trucks are not hot rods so stop shaving everything and putting rollpans. Hotrods started this. IT goes both ways.

Everycar gets ideas from another industry. Let people do what they want and who cares. If he asks where to get one what does saying dont get it its rice help? He already decided to get one thats why he asked that question. CF hoods are used on the SCCA race circuit on cars that are not gutted. So it is not just for totally gutted cars. Some cars come stock with carbon fiber parts.

 

[Pharacyde]

Well... I guess I'm ricey then... I have a 2" cowl hood on my 2.2 dime...

but when the insurance is payin for it.... you don't worry about that

 

[Atrus]

Wow, kinda started a civil war. sorry about that. So after getting so many replies i have a couple other questions to stir the pot. One of which is in response to carbon fiber being the "norm." Being a little uneducated on this, im wondering if anyone has seen a CF hood on an S10 at a show or in your area at all?
responses to that will kind of dictate an answer to the question of CF hoods on S10s being different.

In regards to posts about performance, you are indeed correct. A CF hood would have little or no effect on your performance. My ideas on CF hoods are coming from a strictly show standpoint.

In regards to my post about S10s being compared to Honda Civics, that post was made to emphasize the fact that there are as many S10s around as there are Honda Civics. It was not made at all to put the two into the same category. Honestly, who could make that comparison anyway?

So my bottom line on hoods is that all the hoods made for S10s being cowl induction, Cervinis SS, or CF hood, they are essentially nonfunctional as performance gainers. My point was to put something new and different in a show category and i think a carbon fiber hood would achieve that. Again, all opinion
Atrus

 

[ditto]

try finding posts from xjayx.
from the last time he posted which was about a year ago.. he has new rims, new air setup, and new front bumper.
but still has his cf hood.

 

[Futuresweets10]

Wow, kinda started a civil war. sorry about that. So after getting so many replies i have a couple other questions to stir the pot. One of which is in response to carbon fiber being the "norm." Being a little uneducated on this, im wondering if anyone has seen a CF hood on an S10 at a show or in your area at all?
responses to that will kind of dictate an answer to the question of CF hoods on S10s being different.

In regards to posts about performance, you are indeed correct. A CF hood would have little or no effect on your performance. My ideas on CF hoods are coming from a strictly show standpoint.

In regards to my post about S10s being compared to Honda Civics, that post was made to emphasize the fact that there are as many S10s around as there are Honda Civics. It was not made at all to put the two into the same category. Honestly, who could make that comparison anyway?

So my bottom line on hoods is that all the hoods made for S10s being cowl induction, Cervinis SS, or CF hood, they are essentially nonfunctional as performance gainers. My point was to put something new and different in a show category and i think a carbon fiber hood would achieve that. Again, all opinion
Atrus

Look man, this is the way it is.. I am against anything that I feel is rice on an s-10, BUT, this is your truck, not mine. I am going to quit putting you down for what you want to do. Everything you have said thus far has sounded like it was comming from an intelligent person and not a complete moron like many people around the forum. Just do what makes you happy

 

[jm2200]

No, the s-10 is not the honda civic of anything. A honda civic is a car that your 16 year old sister drives to school because it is a "cute little car". the s-10 although small is a TRUCK. you can haul a dirtbike trailer with it. You can throw a heavy box in the back and not worry about the ass end dragging the ground. You can fit a v-8 in it very easily if you want more power. Try any of that in your sister's honda civic. :cs:

 

[dalred]

Ok, now my post is for any guy in this post with an Xtreme that flamed the guy wanting the hood. Please take that space ship looking, crappy TAC ON plastic crap off the bottom of your trucks. A truck or any car for that matter should be clean and smooth without a bunch of crap hanging off of it. Be it ground effects, racing "style" hoods, big ass ghetto wings or things of the such. You can be assured if my truck has a cowl hood it will have either an LT1 or LS1 under there with an airfilter at the base of the scoop. Which it will have. Now I can't wait to see how many Xtreme guys flame up. LOL. Look at it this way Xtreme boys, if it wasn't for the damn ricers tacking that crap to their cars, Chevy would not have built that truck. I mean because although ground effects were big aftermarket sellers for trucks about 15 years ago when I first started buildin cars, they were not as popular since this truck has been produced. So think long and hard before you flame on someone for being ricey.

 

[KSXtreme]

They aren't as popular? Good, atleast I don't have the same damn thing as everyone else. Swapping in a V8 is the most common thing done to these trucks. I guess if you want to vanish in the crowd.... So stock is what looks good? You basically just said everything aftermarket to add to a car is ugly. There is no purpose in flaming someones idea and opinion. BTW Ricers weren't very popular back in '99 when Xtremes came out. And the idea was in the works before then. Another BTW, it isn't uncommon for s-series to have ground effects. I seem to remember a Cameo and Syclone and a Typhoon. Yes maybe they were old, but the idea of ground effects is nothing new.

I repeat there is no reason to flame someones ideas for their truck. Change may be good. Something different is good too because I get tired of seeing the same damn thing all the time. Let people do what they want and possibly offer constructive criticism if anything.

I agree that you shouldn't flame someone for being ricey, but it isn't an excuse to flame guys with an Xtreme because you don't like them.

 

[King Dime]

Ya know, I think everyone needs to check out FutureSweets10's quote. Its says "Some people will say you're going the wrong way... When it is simply a way of your own. " Why flame Atrus when hes one of you. He's representing the s10 world just like all the rest of us. The beauty of modding out your own vehicle is the fact that you can do WHATEVER you want to it. If anybody is going to judge his vehicle let it be the ones at the car shows he enter (if any). At the end of the day, his sdime is simply for him. Its done up the way he likes it. As a good friend of Atrus, I've been there for him ever since the day he brought the truck home from the dealership. His truck has come a long way in the year hes owned it. I haven't agreed with absolutely everything he's done to it and is planning to do to it, but that doesn't mean my support is gone. If he likes it, thats good enough for me. The rest of you don't have to agree with what he's doing, but then again, he didn't ask for your opinion, he asked if any of you had any information on where he could purchase a CF hood.

 

[96blazer]

Ok, now my post is for any guy in this post with an Xtreme that flamed the guy wanting the hood. Please take that space ship looking, crappy TAC ON plastic crap off the bottom of your trucks. A truck or any car for that matter should be clean and smooth without a bunch of crap hanging off of it. Be it ground effects, racing "style" hoods, big ass ghetto wings or things of the such. You can be assured if my truck has a cowl hood it will have either an LT1 or LS1 under there with an airfilter at the base of the scoop. Which it will have. Now I can't wait to see how many Xtreme guys flame up. LOL. Look at it this way Xtreme boys, if it wasn't for the damn ricers tacking that crap to their cars, Chevy would not have built that truck. I mean because although ground effects were big aftermarket sellers for trucks about 15 years ago when I first started buildin cars, they were not as popular since this truck has been produced. So think long and hard before you flame on someone for being ricey.

Actually, Chevy has been putting gfx on trucks off and on for years. They did it before the big "rice" craze even began. Chevy has been putting stock gfx on fullsizes since 88. In the mid 90's, they made the Tahoe Limited with gfx. The Xtreme is just the newest S-Series gfx kit. Before that there was the Camino, the Ty/Sy and more. Gfx have always been a popular thing. (I personally think they're ugly, though). The Xtreme is just Chevys offer to the sport truck market, not the ricer/import/tuner market.

 

[dalred]

Ya thats all great and good about the other models having gfx, but how long did their run last and as you say they were limited edition vehicles. The Xtreme is not limited and is selling like crazy, because of the rice run, and yes the rice cars were popular back in 99 when the Xtreme came out. Just because the Fast and the Furious was not on the screen yet, does not mean that movement wasn't already huge. That is why they made the movie, because it was. Of course I don't know where you live but being in one of the biggest cities in the country, it is and has been huge here for a long time. All I was saying is that any Xtreme guy that flames someone for being ricey needs to look at his truck, because their opinion of whats ricey is right there in front of them on their own truck. I have no problem with someone being original, but the whole idea of gfx in the beginning was to make a car look lower. In the world of bags now, they are definitely not needed for that are they? I personally know quite a few guys that originally bought Xtremes and then removed the gfx not long after, especially once they realized they couldn't really lay out their truck until they did. Hence you can go lower once they are gone and isn't that why you have bags anyways. Ok this got way too long, but I am glad I got to make people think. Oh I almost forgot, for the guy that says every body with an S10 puts a V8 in it, I would love to live in your town where every S10 around you has one. Cuz even in Houston, they are few and far between.

 

[bristol16]

why do you care what he does to his truck? besides, didn't anyone ever explain what an opinion is? your opinion of rice obviously includes xtremes, but guess what.....not everyone else's opinion of rice includes xtremes. when you tell them to look at their trucks they probably walk into the driveway, look, and start laughing at you. personally i don't see a problem with a CF hood. everyone is bitching about the fact that it won't save enough weight and that it isn't a racing truck....maybe he just likes the look of it, ever think of that?

 

[TurboS10Xtreme]

All I was saying is that any Xtreme guy that flames someone for being ricey needs to look at his truck, because their opinion of whats ricey is right there in front of them on their own truck.

I personally know quite a few guys that originally bought Xtremes and then removed the gfx not long after, especially once they realized they couldn't really lay out their truck until they did. Hence you can go lower once they are gone and isn't that why you have bags anyways.

Oh I almost forgot, for the guy that says every body with an S10 puts a V8 in it, I would love to live in your town where every S10 around you has one. Cuz even in Houston, they are few and far between.

Your truck is rice also. APC clear corners guess who started that? No chrome you have silver? I know who runs that style all the time.

Those guys are stupid to pay the extra money then just eliminate it. They obviously dont know about trucks b/c if they wanted to lay out they would of never bought an xtreme.

Not driving around but go to big truck shows you see a lot of V8 S10s. Actually you see more bagged and body dropped S10s than you do xtremes. So the xtreme stands out at shows.

 

[NasteXtreme]

IMO

I'd love to have a carbon fiber hood for my truck it'd match my rain guards on my window, and 2nd of all anybody who owns a 2.2L like myself is looking to cut down on the weight of their vehicles because less weight is more acceleration, now i don't like ricers that much because i just don't see the point in making a 4-banger as fast as a V-8 when you can just buy one straight out for half of the cost, i bought my truck with a 2.2 because i couldn't find a 4.3 at the time, but i don't regret it because it saved me about $4,000 and i can put a LT-1 in it just like anyone else with a 4.3L.....

 

[jm2200]

rice is just the japs way of getting us back for the war.

 

[dalred]

Your truck is rice also. APC clear corners guess who started that? No chrome you have silver? I know who runs that style all the time.

Those guys are stupid to pay the extra money then just eliminate it. They obviously dont know about trucks b/c if they wanted to lay out they would of never bought an xtreme.

Not driving around but go to big truck shows you see a lot of V8 S10s. Actually you see more bagged and body dropped S10s than you do xtremes. So the xtreme stands out at shows.

Actually clear corners and taillights started with the minis, the ricers just made it more prevalant. Now altezzas are rice. As for chrome, well its just ghetto, polished or silver is CLEANER and whiter. Thats why we have, including yourself, clear corners. They blend. You probably have those ghetto fabulous chrome envoy inner door handles dont you? No bling bling for me thanks. I dont need people to think I have money, rather class and sense. I dont follow a trend, I set my own. Thats why all my simple and CLEAN show cars and trucks always won at shows, thank you.

You are right, anyone that buys an extreme and takes the ground effects off are idiots for spending the extra money. But werent they idiots for spending the extra money on the gfx to begin with? They were young and dumb and came to their senses, especially once they found out they couldnt lay out. Gfx are only good for a suspension limiter, sense they keep you from going all the way down.

Yes there are more bagged and body dropped s10s at shows, because, guess what? No gfx to get in the way. And the Xtremes do stand out, not because there are less of them, but because they are tacky. Gfx dont make your truck look lower, because it is not just about closing the gap to the ground, it is about closing the gap between your fender and the tire. You can run your gfx to the ground, but if you still have this massive gap above your tire, it still looks like a 4x4 with a skirt. Reminds of back in the day when Lund was so hot for their freakin visors and cap extnders and those damn nasty louvered extended cab window covers. Tacking crap onto your truck or car is nasty. Less is more.

Now if you let any of this above bother you, you take things too seriously. I just like to see what people flame up. It is histerical. In the end I dont care about what you do to your truck. I just say do your thing and dont build your car or truck to satisfy someone else. You spent the money, so you need to be happy. Just check yourself before you flame someone else. As for me, I am just an instigator. I loe startin s**t. So quit takin this so seriously and SMILE. Lets just have a group :hug: