[gmorin07]

If you find something please post it, im doing the same like you and we can share ideas to get better results

only thing I have found so far is:

Custom TBI Chip – Harris custom fuel injection programming

beyond that I am at a standstill for the moment but I have contacted several people and companies so I will definitely post my findings.

 

[alexgranich]

only thing I have found so far is:

Custom TBI Chip – Harris custom fuel injection programming

beyond that I am at a standstill for the moment but I have contacted several people and companies so I will definitely post my findings.

Thanks
I already buyed the intake manifold and monday I think gonna get a 5.7 tbi

 

[gmorin07]

Thanks
I already buyed the intake manifold and monday I think gonna get a 5.7 tbi

Nice which intake you go with?

 

[manbearpig]

You could dump a ton of money into a 2.8l and still not be as good as what GM ended up doing with the motor. LZ9 3.9l and 240hp/240tq with very wide power band, it would probably cost less to adapt that motor than it would to build a 2.8l and have a better engine.

 

[gmorin07]

You could dump a ton of money into a 2.8l and still not be as good as what GM ended up doing with the motor. LZ9 3.9l and 240hp/240tq with very wide power band, it would probably cost less to adapt that motor than it would to build a 2.8l and have a better engine.

I guess I like old school over higher hp.

 

[gmorin07]

Thanks
I already buyed the intake manifold and monday I think gonna get a 5.7 tbi

Guy told me that only 88 and after are tunable… well that he can tune. So back to square one lol.

 

[alexgranich]

Is a stock intake just gonna port and polish, I get it for $25 dolars, just have some spider webs.
About the tunning I think we can do it with tunerpro, im blowing the dust and refreshing my college years and trying to build a interface OBD1 bluetooth with arduino and burn some chips for the ecm

 

[gmorin07]

Is a stock intake just gonna port and polish, I get it for $25 dolars, just have some spider webs.
About the tunning I think we can do it with tunerpro, im blowing the dust and refreshing my college years and trying to build a interface OBD1 bluetooth with arduino and burn some chips for the ecm

I have been reading about TunerPro.com and I am just unclear which ecm I would have to use to get the best tune out of it? I’m between that and Megasquirt.

 

[jimmykicker]

for the price of the intake, throttle body and cam, you can find a good quality SBC, and already have more power than all those parts will make installed.

That may well be true, but not everyone wants to cut and hammer their truck up to achieve that. Especially if you try to ignore the poster's skill set, which is unknown. Telling someone to drop a V8 in a truck because "it'll be cheaper" is irresponsible. It may never get completed if he doesn't have that skill set. One also needs to consider the other things that a beat 30+ year old truck needs to make a SAFE and QUALITY swap. Just dropping a SBC, calling it done and ignoring the worn/inadequate springs, shocks and other suspension components or pretending the extra weight has no effect to handling is neither of those things. If you want it right and safe? More $$$$. You must also consider with modifying a stock engine, nothing really changed with simple bolt on parts.

Another thing to consider is that modifying the stock components allows it to wrench like stock, because it mostly is! Working on a 60 degree V6 in these trucks is CAKE.

We need to be more cognizant of which section of the forum this is. If he wanted to put a V8 in the truck, there is a section for that. If that is what he wanted to do, I'm pretty sure he'd went there.

 

[bk2life]

---not everyone wants to cut and hammer their truck up
---that a beat 30+ year old truck needs to make a SAFE and QUALITY swap. Just dropping a SBC, calling it done and ignoring the worn/inadequate springs, shocks and other suspension components or pretending the extra weight has no effect to handling is neither of those things.

guessing youve never done a SBC swap in an s10 before have you?

 

[gmorin07]

Me or jimmykicker? I was going to buy too many ideas right now so for the time being I am going to get my hands dirty and polish this “ole turd” lol

 

[jimmykicker]

guessing youve never done a SBC swap in an s10 before have you?

Actually I have. I probably did it before any of you guys in fact. About 1990. My uncle and I put a 305 from a 7? Nova in it. There weren't any kits back then, and we did everything from scratch. In a 1982 LWB white work truck with dog dishes and AM JAM.

It was fun. It was fast. It was super dangerous and handled like a greased pig. It was annoyingly hard to work on and he spent many hours maintaining it and improving it. He spent thousands on the truck. In 1990 no less. Just to get it to a poine where it wasn't a deathtrap went beyond, a running gear, radiator and some fluids. Remember, this 1990 and was an 8 year old truck in 1990 when we built it. The suspension was SHOT. At the very least, I'd never blindly recommend someone to "drop in a v8" on a now 30+ year old truck without asking them some important questions. . Especially not knowing anything about the driver, the truck's condition, etc, or plans for his build. I mean...come on dude. You know it and I know it. We all see hacked up, clapped out, garbage S-10 V8 swaps all the time on Marketplace in trucks that didn't have any business on the road with the stock running gear, let alone a powerful V8 the truck wasn't designed for in stock form. That is if they ever got completed at all.

Like a said, that is irresponsible advice.

 

[gmorin07]

Actually I have. I probably did it before any of you guys in fact. About 1990. My uncle and I put a 305 from a 7? Nova in it. There weren't any kits back then, and we did everything from scratch. In a 1982 LWB white work truck with dog dishes and AM JAM.

It was fun. It was fast. It was super dangerous and handled like a greased pig. It was annoyingly hard to work on and he spent many hours maintaining it and improving it. He spent thousands on the truck. In 1990 no less. Just to get it to a poine where it wasn't a deathtrap went beyond, a running gear, radiator and some fluids. Remember, this 1990 and was an 8 year old truck in 1990 when we built it. The suspension was SHOT. At the very least, I'd never blindly recommend someone to "drop in a v8" on a now 30+ year old truck without asking them some important questions. . Especially not knowing anything about the driver, the truck's condition, etc, or plans for his build. I mean...come on dude. You know it and I know it. We all see hacked up, clapped out, garbage S-10 V8 swaps all the time on Marketplace in trucks that didn't have any business on the road with the stock running gear, let alone a powerful V8 the truck wasn't designed for in stock form. That is if they ever got completed at all.

Like a said, that is irresponsible advice.

Amen to that lol

 

[jimmykicker]

Me or jimmykicker? I was going to buy too many ideas right now so for the time being I am going to get my hands dirty and polish this “ole turd” lol

Ha! No, man. That's a jab at me. I get annoyed with the poster saying "i wanna do this to my s-10 with the stock motor...what can i do?", followed by the, "well man, LS swap it...or SBC it....or something man...don't waste your time or money on it " rhetoric. Especially without knowing what your situation even is.

 

[bk2life]

… I was going to do a 5.7 swap, then a LS

He was already planning on a V8 swap. I told him with the money hell waste on his stock engine, he'd be better off doing the v8 swap. Many V8s, probably like the mid 70s 305 you guys used came with 160hp from the factory.
ill always recommend a V8 swap.
i gave my daughter a 350hp v8 blazer for her 16th birthday.

its all relative in the end..

 

[gmorin07]

He was already planning on a V8 swap. I told him with the money hell waste on his stock engine, he'd be better off doing the v8 swap. Many V8s, probably like the mid 70s 305 you guys used came with 160hp from the factory.
ill always recommend a V8 swap.
i gave my daughter a 350hp v8 blazer for her 16th birthday.

its all relative in the end..

Eventually I will but for now just make a couple ponies and dress up the engine bay

 

[jimmykicker]

First, I do apologize for saying you didn't ask questions. I was wrong...

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i gave my daughter a 350hp v8 blazer for her 16th birthday.

its all relative in the end..

I sure ain't even gonna suggest what you do there, bro. To me, a first generation S-10, regardless of powerplant isn't very safe compared to newer vehicles. Compared to any older vehicle really. I love my truck, but I have no illusions about how much riskier it is to drive and my chances of being killed or much more severely injured go way up . That truck versus my 2009 xB with anti-lock brakes, traction control and air bags all around is 20x safer. And that car's safety features are considered archaic by today's standards.. I don't even let my WIFE drive my 84. It drives like stock, and it is well maintained, but it isn't really very safe in this day and age.

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ill always recommend a V8 swap.

That's great, man and stick with your recommendations. The problem I see is that there are sections of the forum for that. What I'm crying and moaning about is this constant barking I hear about v8 swaps to every user in the 2.8/60 degree section. And I ain't trying to single you out. I hear it a lot from other members. That is like me going to the V8 section and telling people to just put the 2.8 stock engine back in when someone posts that their V8 S-10 overheats (which is basically every day). Surely you understand what I'm saying. No offense. Just how I see that.

 

[bk2life]

No offense. Just how I see that.

no worries, no offense taken.
just going off of real life experiences. Being i was one back int he i had to work for $3.45 minuma wage and couldn't afford a v8 swap so i did all i could to my 2.0 mazda engine.
My very first swap was taking the 2.0 mazda engine out and swapping it with a fuel injected 2.6
My second was swapping my 1986 chevy spectrum 1.4 engine out and swapping in a turbo 13b.
Ever since then, 4 cyl or v6 swaps just couldn't cut it.
You will save money in the long run jumping right to a V8 swap. IF YOURE going to keep it.
Many people start something and then 4 months later go a different direction and then it gets sold, scrapped, or parted. Seen that all my life as well.

Thanks for the back and forth, always good haveing a conversation and not a b*tch session..

 

[gmorin07]

Am I seeing this right… that 4.3 injectors are like $70 a piece give or take?

no worries, no offense taken.
just going off of real life experiences. Being i was one back int he i had to work for $3.45 minuma wage and couldn't afford a v8 swap so i did all i could to my 2.0 mazda engine.
My very first swap was taking the 2.0 mazda engine out and swapping it with a fuel injected 2.6
My second was swapping my 1986 chevy spectrum 1.4 engine out and swapping in a turbo 13b.
Ever since then, 4 cyl or v6 swaps just couldn't cut it.
You will save money in the long run jumping right to a V8 swap. IF YOURE going to keep it.
Many people start something and then 4 months later go a different direction and then it gets sold, scrapped, or parted. Seen that all my life as well.

Thanks for the back and forth, always good haveing a conversation and not a b*tch session..

I will do a V8 but it will be LS and won’t be for a while… however that being said can anyone lend a hand on tuning?

thanks
Glenn

 

[bk2life]

can anyone lend a hand on tuning?

tuning on what?