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Hey everyone, extremely new to this forum and i have a 2.2l 2000 sonoma with a brand new motor that we highly suspect is cammed. i have a free 44mm turbo and a 52mm turbo i can buy for 400$ i started this thread to try and see if anyone has advice to give on any part of this project including, fmus, injectors, tuning, turbo, and general performance upgrades i can to do it. this thread will be going on for quite a while so i hope to learn alot from you all
 

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Oh, i have not put this truck on a dyno but my 0-60 ranges from 11.4 to 12.3 only mods besides new engine is cai and straight piped, next mods planned before turbo are underdrive pulleys and an efan. i also need headers if anyone here has any for sale, dont care if they are custom made/homemade
 

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Ya don need headers if youse gonna put a trubo on it.
 

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thanks for the advice, noted. will try to post pics today
 

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i think that generally turbos are installed using a log type manifold instead of the header type because you want the exhaust to spin it up fast. a header style would require the exhaust to travel down to the ends and then you would need longer pipes to the intercooler and oil feed /return for the turbo itself.

not to say you cannot do it. I see turbos mounted a lot lately that are way down the exhaust, by the rear axle. there is more lag but the turbo still spins and works. you just need more piping and oil lines.

a friend has her 1500 chevy set up that way. she said for her, it helps with towing since she doesn't use the truck for racing or anything that requires instant or low rpm boost
 

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I would say your next mod should be a manual transmission if it doesn't have one already... preferably a T5. I doubt the engine is "cammed" either, it seems there's less than two places you can get a cam for a 2.2L, and most people would not pay the price it costs.
 

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I would say your next mod should be a manual transmission if it doesn't have one already... preferably a T5. I doubt the engine is "cammed" either, it seems there's less than two places you can get a cam for a 2.2L, and most people would not pay the price it costs.
hey there, and yes if it isnt cammed then it is definately built up, it cost 4000$ to have them build me that engine. that seems a little out there considering a brand new crate chevy 350 is only 1500$ and yes it is already the manual
edit: cost me 4000$ for the motor itself and an extra 2000$ to install it
 

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i think that generally turbos are installed using a log type manifold instead of the header type because you want the exhaust to spin it up fast. a header style would require the exhaust to travel down to the ends and then you would need longer pipes to the intercooler and oil feed /return for the turbo itself.

not to say you cannot do it. I see turbos mounted a lot lately that are way down the exhaust, by the rear axle. there is more lag but the turbo still spins and works. you just need more piping and oil lines.

a friend has her 1500 chevy set up that way. she said for her, it helps with towing since she doesn't use the truck for racing or anything that requires instant or low rpm boost
true, the issue is the truck wont be in my name for another 5-6 months so i cant do anything that directly affects the engine (such as turbo) until then. and because of that i actually already decided to order some stainless steel headers from tunerbits. actually does anyone know if they are good or not? i ordered the headers from amazon so if they arnt then i can easilly refund them
heres the link if anyone wants to check them out. from what i can tell the piping itself is of pretty decent quality but the gaskets and bolts included are pretty bad, but thats easily fixable
 

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A long block from Advance Auto is $1800 for a 2.2L S10. I'm curious what the machine shop or mechanic's shop did to the engine for your money...
 

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Since they charged $2K to put it in, which is a heck of lot to R&R a tutu, they just have high prices.
They probably just overcharged that much for a rebuilt.
For $6K total you could have bought a used truck already swapped to a 5.3. Or had yours done.
Then you wouldn't even bother with Cavaliers.
 

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Since they charged $2K to put it in, which is a heck of lot to R&R a tutu, they just have high prices.
They probably just overcharged that much for a rebuilt.
For $6K total you could have bought a used truck already swapped to a 5.3. Or had yours done.
Then you wouldn't even bother with Cavaliers.
hey, just so you know the people who built the engine and the people who installed it are 2 different shops. but i also had my brakes done at the shop that did the install and both my brakes and my motor mounts are awful, tempted to try and get it refunded since that shop has done nothing but bad work on my sonoma. i do believe the install was way overpriced but it also wasnt me who had to pay it so im not complaining too much
no sense crying over spilled milk i guess,
and yes i wont lie, i know they overcharged for the motor and the install, but it still has to be enough for them to have done something to that motor. as its not in my name yet i cant crack open the head to actually see if its built or not yet. 7 months until i can do that
edit: i see tutu all over this forum but to be honest i have no clue what that means, any chance someone could enlighten me? thanks
 

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tutu = 2.2L, just a little easier way to type it...
 

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What happened to our Tutu Smilie? Did anyone save a copy?
 

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Since they charged $2K to put it in, which is a heck of lot to R&R a tutu, they just have high prices.
They probably just overcharged that much for a rebuilt.
For $6K total you could have bought a used truck already swapped to a 5.3. Or had yours done.
Then you wouldn't even bother with Cavaliers.
"A foole and his money, be soone at debate; which after with sorrow, repents him to late." Thomas Tusser, 1573

I like that quote... or the simpler, a fool and his money are soon parted... but yeah, both shops made some nice coin for a basic remain tutu replacement.
 

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hey! sorry for the long time been very busy. but i now have the money up to cam my truck, does anyone know where i can get a good performance cam for it? i would need a link because even on summit racing i couldnt find one besides the stock one. Update: i put some headers that i made myself into the truck, still dont have a dyno but the 0-60 is now between 9.3 and 8.6 i may try to record it and put it on youtube so i can post the link here if i remember.
 

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"A foole and his money, be soone at debate; which after with sorrow, repents him to late." Thomas Tusser, 1573

I like that quote... or the simpler, a fool and his money are soon parted... but yeah, both shops made some nice coin for a basic remain tutu replacement.
yeah, my parents wasted their money but its all good, still a brand new motor to play with.
 

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Progress update (i know its slow going) i now have some headers installed and am about to order a tune from pcm for less, the turbo "should" be installed within 2-3 months. Has anyone else here ever used pcmforless? i called the guy and he did sound like he knew what he was doing but does anyone have experience with them? im curious about the horsepower, throttle response, maybe sound if they do some timing adjustments, and any know problems that the tune could cause? And yes i know that i need special headers for the turbo, i custom fabbed my headers so it didnt really cost anything.
 
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