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True Ambition
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Ok I purchased an airintake from ebay.....:bash:

All seemed well but now the same people are offering the airintake with a place to fit the oem oxygen sensor. Mine does not have the sensor hole.

Here was their response:


.........Also we kept getting numerous emails from potential customers about the sensor and so we felt that this would ease their mind & lower the amount of emails we received.We still stand behind our saying that unplugging the sensor(not disconnecting) from the stock location will not give your truck a false reading and only indicates when your filter is beyond dirty.We have tested the intake with the sensor & without it on our own 2001 S10 and we feel that using the air intake with the sensor decreases the throttle response a little bit,but if you feel you would like yours to have the sensor hook-up,you can mail us your intake & we will retro fit it.We want to keep our customers satisfied.I am sorry for any confusion this may have caused you and hope this answers your questions & concerns.If not let us know.Thanks.

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Opinions and suggestions on the intake. Should I send it back or just keep it. I am not a engine guy so decreasing throttle response doesnt mean much, but if leaving it off increases it that should be a good thing,right?:confused:

Thanks

Mark:bah:
 

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Oxygen Sensor in an intake? Um Sure about that. MAybe you mean IAT Sensor. Air temp sensor maybe
 

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Cant help ya. I only buy from reputable known companies. I also have the 4.3. From what I can see, the sensor should be in place. My question is what sensor tells wether a filter is dirty or not. If it just sense volume of airflow, should not effect performance.
 

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ummm......... why wouldn't you want all the sensors your intake came with to go back on i mean yeah if gm put it there it's probably there for a reason. I just made a custom intake for my 4.3 and i made sure i put all the sensors in where i know they will work like stock.
 

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True Ambition
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cool...thanks...i figured and was pissed when i saw them change their story......I will be sending it back!
 

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let me help you out, since i have a 2.2. first let me say that that intake is a horrible design and will f*ck your performance more than it will help you. let me start out with the sensor. the 2.2s have a Intake Air Temperature sensor. now, the trick with this thing is that you want it to read as cold as possible; that way the computer will think the air is cool and adjust the fuel mixture for better performance. so if you leave it off you intake, it will read the temperature of the air inside your engine bay, which is way hotter than you want it to be. quick science lesson: cool air carries more oxygen. ok, this brings me to the design in itself. if you stick that thing on your intake, do you know where it will e pulling air from? it will sit in that empty hole about 5 inches above the open exhaust manifold! this is the worst place you can ever put it! not only will you be pulling 200 degree air, the intake itself will become heated and contribute to it as well. i have an intake from STS..it routes all the way back to the stock location behind the headlight, and it moved the IAT sensor much closer to the filter than stock, improving performance as well. now it has an s bend but its not going to affect the performance at all. i reconize all those parts that they made that "custom" intake with. that is a plumbers connection from home depot, 2 cheap hose clamps, a grommet from radio shack, and a 10 dollar K&N rip off. it will cost you about 25 dollars MAX to make it, and they are selling it for 75. i would send it back to then and tell them to keep it. also i dont believe the sensor wire is long enough to reach to that location, so you will have to cut it out of its harness as well...good luck bro, lata
 

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damn avtekk your on it today!
 

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whew! that is a bad design. sorry man, but i'd send it back and spend my hard-earned cash on something better. IMHO

K&N, Volant or STS would be the way to go.

of course, there are those who build their own custom intakes, and are plenty pleased as well. i'm sure you could find a thread about them on here.
 

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True Ambition
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whewwww......thanks for all the info...lol....yeh i guess the thing sux....I bought it before I knew this forum was here. I guess I can always make it into a lamp or something. LOL!! Anyway.....thanks again....I am hella glad I didn't put it on!!
 

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well, all of you seem to assume that it was made to clamp directly onto the throttlebody, looks to me it is just supposed to replace part of the stock intake system,,,, just the short part towards the end including the airbox, and in that case, the hole for the sensor would work just fine. I do agree that this product is being sold for WAY too much, for what it is.

LowTech, if you put this on it might noy give you all that much of a performance gain, but it might sound a bit better than your stock setup. And to save the money that it would take to send it back to them just for them to "retro fit" a hole for the sensor.... I would do the easiest thing and drill a hole in the tube big enough for it, and go down and buy a grommet for a matter of like a dollar, and you end up with anything as good as they can "retro fit"!!!!
 

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Wayne:

i considered this, but i left it out. you mean the part where the stock bax clamps on, but all the factory baffles and such are still there? it would be a very tight fit between the fan shroud and windshield washer tank. and it will give you very little performance there. or if you mean bolt it right onto the factory piece coming off the intake, that piece is very short and the filter will sit on top of the shroud and you wouldnt be able to close the hood! haha, anyway you look at it, it sucks. lol, lata
 

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yeah seems that it just clamps to the plastic shiz that sits on top of the fan shroud, it wont help much performancewise, because the air is still gonna get lost in that huge area before heading up into the throttlebody, but it should fit there in the area where the stock airbox goes. And yeah he couldnt hook it striaght to the rubber gooseneck like piece coming from the throttlebody, (because of hood clearance like you said, and it wouldnt be pulling the coldest air there either, because all the air flowing right there has came through the radiator and is rather warm) but he could find like a piece of tubing of some sort, a couple elbow pieces, and some ways to clamp it all together and make a piece that goes from the short rubber piece coming from the motor, and hook it to the tube and cone filter he has already to make more of an intake, to bypass all that plastic area above the fan shroud that cuts down so much on the airflow
 

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True Ambition
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great!!

Just keep posting guys and eventually i will have something usable built...thanks.....then again there is always the lamp idea ......i just dont want to put it back on ebay and sell it to someone else who will be stuck with it.

LowTech
 

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eh, get some nice mandrel bend tubing, bend and cut it to fit like a K&N air intake and then stick that on the end.....put the IAT in the hole behind the headlight and your good to go!!

Here are some easy instructions, kinda follow these, but bend it like you'll need it!!

http://www.teamdelsol.com/howto/coldair/diycoldair.htm

Caleb
 

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yeah, do that. get piece of pipe and connect it to the flexible rubber hose coming off the throttle body and stick the filter on that. that would probably work pretty good....
 

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Quick science lesson correction. Oxygen at any altitude at any temperature in the atmosphere is the same 78% nitrogen is 21% and other gases 1%. I am a smart ass because I am a have trade school physics knowledge.
 

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Yeah, but cold air is denser than warm air, so you get more oxygen in a given volume of space with cold air compaerd to warm, thus the greater performance.
 

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hey summer wolf, i just clicked on the link for the del sol. is there a good spot to do the "ram air" intake on the 2.2's without lookin dumb and done half arsed?
 
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