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I finally have the majority of my parts rounded up and I'm ready to begin working on my truck. The goal is to have a truck that i can use for daily driving and be able to drive to the track and be competitive in my class at autocross events. Eventually this will involve an engine swap of some sort to get the power i will need, but for the time being i am mostly concerned with handling mods. I would like to preface this project with one statement...Function Over Form! The whole truck was well used by previous owners and therefore i got this truck really cheap. The engine runs good, the cab is really solid, and it gives me a base to start from. Being a budget build, this is all i really need. First thing i did was replace door pins and bushings. They had been gone a long time and i had to do some repairs on the hinges. At the time i wasn't thinking about starting a project thread, so no pictures of that. But i will post up some pictures of what i have to start with. I got a little excited when i got my wheel spacers and wheels so i put them on before i got any pictures, but it came with grey steel wheels. Hopefully i will get around to my suspension mods over the holiday weekend!
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Cool! Interested in seeing how this is gonna go with the new ball joints.

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Here are some pictures of the interior....not much to start with here either, but that's ok. Bench seat will be replaced with something to hold me in place a little better and a bucket seat from a Blazer for the passenger side. Door panels will be replaced eventually with ones that don't have holes and cracks in them. Floor covering will be removed since it is junk, more than likely the floor will remain bare. Also i will be taking the steering wheel from a blazer to replace this one as well since half of the foam around it is missing.
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First two mods: e-fan and open air intake. I used the popular option, the taurus fan.



After some measuring and test fitting, i decided to remove the two tabs and small lip that were on the one end of the shroud.



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In with the new. I am very well pleased with how this fan fits the radiator. It covers 99%, only leaving one row at the top open. I used some adhesive backed weather stripping to make a good seal around the shroud and prevent the shroud from rubbing on the radiator.




The tab on the bottom of the shroud fits right down into the plastic tray below the radiator giving it good support and holding the bottom in tight. As for mounting, i used 4 through radiator zip ties, they hold it in place very well.




For top mounting of the radiator, i modified the factory top shroud with an air saw. This is also what i used to remove the tabs and lip from the end of the e-fan shroud.






Aside from the slightly less than flawlessly straight cut, it nearly looks like a factory install. Modifying the top shroud in this way also allows for the mounting of the factory intake if someone wanted to go that route.




As for wiring, I am using an adjustable thermostat heat probe that is mounted at the top of the back side of the radiator under the shroud, when the thermostat reaches its set point, it triggers the 40A fan relay. My power and ground wires are all 10AWG wire to make sure they can carry the load.


The completed install.


As for the intake, this is a custom job made from left over pipe and couplers and clamps from installing the front mount intercooler on my TDI jetta.


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Oh man. A 98+ non-AC truck. If you ever pop the dash off, I'd really like to know what the recirculation door block off looks like.




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Well, if this thing ever goes full race truck some day, i would be glad to give you a look...of course at that point, i could probably just sell you the heater box or block off parts. haha!
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Looks good. That is the same temp sensor that I used.


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Thanks. I was going to piece together my own kit with an inline coolant sensor because all of these type of sensors i had seen around were upwards of $100 for the kit, but then i stumbled upon this one for $23 for the sensor and the relay and all of the wires. Can't hardly beat that.
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If you haven't already, talk to rentedmule here. He has raced his truck for a long time now and probably knows more about what works with bolt on stuff and what doesn't. He has been regional champ for his class and is just an awesome guy. https://www.s10forum.com/forum/member.php?u=65362
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Agreed. Good dude.

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I have had some feedback from him on my suspension thread, but I will maybe message him on how to make it better once I get rolling.
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Well, things didn't go exactly as planned over the weekend. A while back, i ordered this rear bushing kit- http://www.ebay.com/itm/272063368609...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Turns out, even though it says it does, this kit will not work on my truck. It has the correct frame-shackle bushing and correct shackle-leaf bushing but the leaf-fame bushings are not even close, they are way to small. Aside from that, i just had a major lack of time and did not get much done. I have my rear end nearly prepped and ready to go in, and a few other preparations made with front suspension parts as well. Hopefully i find time to get a lot done this week, otherwise i will be not making my first autocross of the season on sunday...
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I had the same problem when I got the urethane kit for my rear leaf springs. I got the wrong size. Turns out they have 2 different size leaf spring eyes. Luckily I was able to return it and get the right kit.


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Here is the rear end that will be going into my truck. It's from a 4x4 bravada. Good theory says i shouldn't have to run rear spacers with this axle. Same 3.73 gear ratio as my factory rear end, but this has the locking diff as well as disc brakes vs my drum brakes. It wasn't much to look at when i started since it has been sitting in the dirt for a few years.








All stripped down, it is actually a pretty good base to start with. I acquired it on a trade deal, including my fuel costs to go get it i only have about $200 into it. It came with new rotors, pads, backing plates, and e-brake cables. I figured being in that far i may as well do wheel seals and i replaced the cover because it was terribly rusted. Also added new parking brake shoes, calipers, and brake lines.


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I had a little fun with fire, removing the bushings from the leaf springs.


I was aiming to put polly bushings in, but the kit i ended up with wont work with these springs. Not sure if the zq8 springs are different eye sizes from the base model springs or if i don't actually have zq8 springs....I will have to order the correct bushing kit, looks like the 4x4 spring kits will work in these springs. And i will have to do some measuring to figure out if these springs will even work on my truck at all. Anyone have any input on if these are actually zq8 springs?





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I got the Energy Suspension 3.2142 kit. IIRC Energy Suspension has the measurements of their kits on the website, or at least what vehicles they fit.


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Yea, that is the kit i need. I got the 3.2129 kit. I never even looked on their website, i just went off of info i got from searching on ebay. < right there is my mistake. Lesson learned though. At least i can still send back the wrong kit and order the correct one.
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Well, I got a little more done on my truck last night. I got the new rear end installed with 3 inch blocks on stock springs for now. I have an autocross this Sunday I want to try to make it to and don't have the time to wait on bushings for the rear leafs. That and basic math says it should sit level this way now until i can get 1.5" springs for the front to match the rears.


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SPs ready to go on.


With the wide tires, wide axle, and beefy shocks, it looks a lot more impressive from the rear now......not that a 2.2 is impressive, but at least it has the look and hopefully the handling ability.


Rear end all done, i started in on the front. Here is the standard ball joint next to the 1" extended.


The base pressed in nice, my only complaint would be that i do wish it would have pressed in a little tighter. Its not to the point that I am concerned about it staying in place, it just went in easier than pretty much any ball joint i have ever replaced.




I also installed polly bushings from summit in the lower control arms. This is where i ended last night because when i went to install i realized that the center pin on the front bushing needs to be drilled out slightly for the bolt to fit through, and i did not have a large enough drill bit on hand. Hopefully I will get the front suspension finished up tonight, and i have an alignment appointment tomorrow. If all goes well, testing will ensue on sunday!


Variable: I am also getting my wisdom teeth out tomorrow....everyone keeps telling me i wont be able to take the pain to be off pain meds to race sunday, I am out to prove them wrong. haha!
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When I had my Wisdom teeth out I was out of it for about 2 days. I only had to take Vicodin once though.


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Yea, I'm going to try to be off any major pain meds soon as possible.

Tonights goal: stay up late as necessary to finish tuck to make alignment appointment tomorrow morning

Result: blew a left front brake line as I went to pull off the lift....not real impressed about that. Better to have found out there than on the road though. Hopefully I can get the line replaced on Saturday and find a place to do an alignment.
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Thanks for the good luck wishes. Doing petty well, only had one pain pill besides Motrin.

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Well thanks! I really like them too. Borbet type T. 17x9.5. Got the wheels with current tires on them for $100. Couldn't possibly pass up that deal.
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Well, i had a few frustrations along the way, associated with working on an older rusty truck, but i did finally get the old beast back on the ground saturday, got my alignment done, and made the autocross yesterday. What a learning experience! This drives very different from anything else i have ever run before. I was rather impressed by how responsive the steering actually is. There are a few bugs to work out though and some big improvements to be made. I do know for sure that i still need to get my rear sway bar mounted on, get a bigger front sway on, change the rear bump stops so that the axle and frame match and work better together because right now they don't allow for very much travel, and i need to figure out how to make more clearance on the inner fenders or simply remove them. But overall, i am very happy with a first time out with the truck. Pics of finishing up the suspension and hopefully some video of the autocross to come.
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So the current set up is this:

Front- 2" Chassis tech spindles, 1" extended lower ball joints, .5" extended upper ball joints, speedway upper arms, polyurethane lower control arm bushings, all oem type steering, and oem springs, 2.5" wheel spacers plus a 5/16 slip on spacer to clear tie rod ends with 17X9.5 wheels with 235x50-17 tires.

Rear- Bravada 4X4 rear axle with locking differential and disc brakes, 3" blocks on top of stock springs, no spacers required for perfect fitment on 17X9.5 wheels with 275x40-17 tires.

Everything all seems to jive well when it is all together. There is a bit of a bind on the top ball joint at full droop due to the lack of a droop stop, but aside from that, all is good.




the 1"lower ball joints that some people were interested in seem to work well.


here you can see the big angle on the top ball joint at full droop, but it sits much better at static ride height.


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Here is a picture that was taken of me at the autocross at jefferson speedway over the weekend.

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Looks like fun. Would love to put my gran turismo skills to the test.

Only thing that scares me is all that spacer tho.

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What size sway bar do you have? I've been curious to see how a truck would behave with the smaller front bar with a rear bar. I've been reluctant to move up in front bar size for fear of making understeer worse (my stock bar is 29mm) but considering using a rear bar to make it lean towards oversteering hopefully, it's less scary, lol.




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I'm curious what the actual advantage is over .5" on the ball joints. Do they have an upper to go with it? I would think it might create a bind depending on how far the suspension travels.


Also, if the .5" Bjs help get rid of .5" of the factory 5/8" of bumpsteer, what do the 1" tall bjs do since only 1/8" is the only amount remaining? Would there be any need for Heim joint tie rod ends at all with this setup since it would basically get rid of the remaining 1/8"? Lol just thinking out loud


Looks like you had a blast! And the truck looks like a lot of fun to drive. When I first started building the suspension on the blazer I was wanting to do autocross with it, but then I got bit by the "needs moar low" bug... Maybe next time lol

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Looks like fun. Would love to put my gran turismo skills to the test.

Only thing that scares me is all that spacer tho.
It seems that most everyone who does any performance driving with these trucks mostly use vette or f-body wheels, all of which require large spacers. I'm not too worried about it, but i suppose time will tell!

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What size sway bar do you have? I've been curious to see how a truck would behave with the smaller front bar with a rear bar. I've been reluctant to move up in front bar size for fear of making understeer worse (my stock bar is 29mm) but considering using a rear bar to make it lean towards oversteering hopefully, it's less scary, lol.
I have a stock front sway bar and no rear bar at this time. I know that i am getting way to much roll in the front because my tires are rubbing real hard on the tops of the inner fenders. I either need stiffer spring or stiffer sway, or both. Plus i need to remove the rear bump stop with this 4x4 axle to make enough clearance. But i think i will add the rear first since i have two of them laying around.

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I'm curious what the actual advantage is over .5" on the ball joints. Do they have an upper to go with it? I would think it might create a bind depending on how far the suspension travels.


Also, if the .5" Bjs help get rid of .5" of the factory 5/8" of bumpsteer, what do the 1" tall bjs do since only 1/8" is the only amount remaining? Would there be any need for Heim joint tie rod ends at all with this setup since it would basically get rid of the remaining 1/8"? Lol just thinking out loud


Looks like you had a blast! And the truck looks like a lot of fun to drive. When I first started building the suspension on the blazer I was wanting to do autocross with it, but then I got bit by the "needs moar low" bug... Maybe next time lol
It doesn't seem to bind at all except for when the suspension travels to full droop, but the taller lowers actually help to reduce that not make it worse. Traveling in the other direction however, it would have to travel a very long ways i think, very far past the limits of the inner fender to cause any bind. When you speak of the bump steer, are you basically talking about any up or downward angle of the tie rod at static height? I'm not looking at it right this second, but if i remember correctly the tie rods are almost perfectly flat now. I really did have a lot of fun. Very different experience from anything else i have driven. I managed to outrun the guy in my group of friends who has a late 80s camaro with some goodies on it, but i have a long ways to go if i want to keep up with my other friends who have a 300zx turbo, 350z, srt4 neon, and bmw 545. Challenge excepted! I'm going to give it my best shot!
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I wouldn't worry about the spacers. I've been running 2.5" spacers with 9 or 9.5" vette or F-body wheels and 275/40 R-compound tires for years (probably 80 auto-X events) and have never had a single issue with wheel bearings.

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^^^ That's what i like to hear. Haha! I have heard from different people over the years that spacers kill wheel bearings, but physics somewhat disputes that. With spacers rigid mounted to the back of a wheel, it is the exact same thing as having a wheel that measures the same diameter, width, and backspacing (including spacer), mounted directly to the hub. It's not spacers that cause more wear on wheel bearings, but rather is is wider wheels in general. The one exception to the rule being skinny wheels with big spacers, will naturally be harder on wheel bearings. So more or less, the way i see it, the factor that really matters is position of the center line of the wheel in relation to the mounting surface of the hub. The farther away the center line from the hub, the greater the stress.
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I believe you're referring to the scrub radius?

Moving a wheel out without any other changes will put more stress on the ball joints as well.




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I am referring to offset of a wheel, which does effect the scrub radius. To my understanding, scrub radius is the relation between the center line of the tire where it contacts the ground, and the theoretical line on the axis of the upper and lower ball joint. And i totally agree, two wheels exactly the same, one with a spacer will certainly cause more stress on ball joints, as well as wheel bearings, control arm pivot points, and reduce the effectiveness of springs and shocks and sway bars.
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Here is a video of my second run from sunday, i forgot to start the camera on the first one. You can hear on certain corners where my front tires rub, and you can kind of get an idea of how much roll i currently have with stock springs and sways. Please excuse the terrible squealing noise, i am trying out a new camera that our parts supplier is selling and it has that noise in every video for some reason.

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Here are the results for the day as well. I placed 45th of 61 entries, which i am happy with for the first go round. Plan on moving up through the season though.


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wow...so that didn't turn out anything like it looked in the preview. Here is a link for anyone who would like to look. http://madisonsportscarclub.com/node/404
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You could probably save a bit of weight by removing those shin destroyers on the front and running an aluminum bumper with or without a cover. I saw earlier in the thread you were planning on running a passenger bucket from an S truck... I'd suggest just getting some junkyard buckets out of an early '90s Japanese car, I'm using Celica seats, they're much lighter and comfortable not to mention actual bolsters.




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HAHA! you like those things? A previous owner pulled it behind a motor home i guess. But i do agree, those things have to go. What vehicles came with an aluminum bumper? Is that what would be on my 95 blazer? I was planning to swap that on soon just for the fact that it is straight and has a lower valence. I may look into the seat from a jap car for the passenger side. The driver side will be getting the Kirkey aluminum seat that i have left over from when i did dirt track for a couple years.
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AFAIK there aren't any S trucks with aluminum bumpers from the factory, but I've been toying with the idea of running something like this behind my Bravada cover.



Or I've seen Mustang guys take the bumpers out completely and just using the plastic covers to make it looks like they are there. I'm not that brave though.

If I had a garage and more money there's a lot of things I'd try.




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Oh, i see what you mean. Have something in there to keep it safe and legal, but custom fit off of some other vehicle. So are there any s series vehicles that have full covers that could make the front end look good with having something like this under it?
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Bravadas and 98+ Sonomas I believe. You could keep the S10 grill/lights with a 98-01 Bravada cover, you just have to trim the pieces that stick off the top.




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BMWs have aluminum bumpers under their covers, with vertical mounting bolts that thread into the bumper itself...might not be a hard retro.

I second the Japanese car seats OR mid to late 90s 3series seats, some had adjustable bolsters and leg supports.

I raced my Sentra for 2 full seasons of AutoX, the video is probably the best training tool you can have, read about not crossing your hands while you are driving, it was the hardest habit for me to break but I felt like once I got used to it I could react to turns faster since I knew my hands would be in nearly the same spot most of the time. Get one of the Pro guys to ride along with you(as many as possible) for atleast one of your runs, there are so many things I picked up that way.

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Bravadas and 98+ Sonomas I believe. You could keep the S10 grill/lights with a 98-01 Bravada cover, you just have to trim the pieces that stick off the top.
Ok cool! I'll have to hit up a few scrap yards around and see what i find. I actually have a full front clip from a 95 blazer that will probably be going on my truck, just for the fact that its all straight. At the very least, the fenders and hood and core support anyhow.

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BMWs have aluminum bumpers under their covers, with vertical mounting bolts that thread into the bumper itself...might not be a hard retro.

I second the Japanese car seats OR mid to late 90s 3series seats, some had adjustable bolsters and leg supports.

I raced my Sentra for 2 full seasons of AutoX, the video is probably the best training tool you can have, read about not crossing your hands while you are driving, it was the hardest habit for me to break but I felt like once I got used to it I could react to turns faster since I knew my hands would be in nearly the same spot most of the time. Get one of the Pro guys to ride along with you(as many as possible) for atleast one of your runs, there are so many things I picked up that way.

They truck looks good with the drop and tire setup
I actually have access to a 94 325i that is being parted out. I will have to check into the bumper, and maybe the seats. I will have to review my videos a little closer, see if i can figure out my mistakes and lost time. And i will see if i can get someone to ride along with me next time around. And thanks for the compliments! I like driving it so much more now that all the suspension is tight.
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It's even harder not to cross your hands with manual steering, autocrossing with it would be interesting to say the least.




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Oh yea, i bet. Does the manual steering come back to center really quick by itself?
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Oh yea, it feels real nice on back roads but you'd really be doing the shuffle in autocross. It's 6 turns lock to lock.




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haha! Yea, that would be a serious handful. The more i drive my truck, the more i am thinking one of the next mods will be an updated steering shaft. Flaming river u-joint or something similar. The steering just feels like it has a huge dead space in the center but once it begins to react, its fairly quick and crisp.
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A common upgrade is the zq8 steering box. Other boxes fit as well, with various valving and ratios.




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truck looks good! just need to do something with the front bumper! the rust is just weight reduction and speed holes! i like the direction you're going with this

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