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Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

Im tired of the S10 lean, even wit the spacer it still leans! Since the gas tank is the main problem, im going to move it, were is a good spot to move it?? Also how hard is it to relocate it, i was thinking about putting it were the spare tire is now..Any ideas??



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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

dont blazers have the tank in the rear? Maybe you could switch tanks and shave ur filler door.
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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

I have heard you can use a blazer tank, i have been wanting to put my fill hose in the rear taillight anyways, so i guess this would be a really good excuse to do it! lol


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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

umm...someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think the gas tank is the problem. pretty sure of that fact since i have a fuel cell in the rear and it still leans. i think it has to do with the spring pocket on the driver's side. i have to put more air in my drivers side even with the fuel cell in the rear to even the truck out.

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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

that's cuz you're sitting on the driver side of the truck


but yes, it's the gas tank that causes the lean.
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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

the stock tank/fuel add's to the problem. but it will still lean. i have a cell where the spare used to be.

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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

yeah so i noticed the lean last night and really paid attention to it and it pisses me off. so the only option i know is to cut the spring half a coil. any other suggestions? lets actually get an answer to this one cuz im curious.
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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

the reason i want to move the gas tank, you still have to worry about it setting to high or low, depending on how much fuel you have in it, so moving the tank to the center seems like a good idea, ill be doing bags in the next few months and if bags dont correct it them im relocation it..


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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

if the bags don't correct the problem, then replace user just tap the switch and level it out. heh.

as for fixing it, stylinconcepts has an 'isolator bushing' that goes under (i think) the driver side coil. it fixes the lean.
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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

already have the bushing, still didnt help, without me in it, with a full tank of gas it leans probally 1", 2" with me in it, I am 400lbs..LOL would replacing worn out shocks on the rear help the lean also?


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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

about the only thing you can do is have the bags on seperate lines and put more air in the drivers side. thats what i do to mine, and i'm 195.

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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

don't move your gas tank if you are going to drive it everyday. The gas take is in the center of the vehicle for a reason. If you get a in a bad wreck i don't want you to burn alive
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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

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don't move your gas tank if you are going to drive it everyday. The gas take is in the center of the vehicle for a reason. If you get a in a bad wreck i don't want you to burn alive

Its not in the center, if it was i wouldnt have to move it..


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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

i mean centered from front to back, But if the blazers have them in the back then go for it, it just doesn't sound safe so me.
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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

there are a bunch of vehicles with gas tanks in the back. i put a fuel cell in behind my axle. i boxed in the rear of my frame with 2 pieces of 2x2 box tubing. this stuff is thick. im not too worried about anything.

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In a pickup, I'd feel safer with the tank further away from me. It might get hit sooner in a rear end collision, being further back, but if they hit me, hard enough to push my Class IV hitch front and break the tank, it would have broke no matter, where it was mounted. Putting it in the back also gets it further away from left side collisions, the most common accident out there.
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that's cuz you're sitting on the driver side of the truck


but yes, it's the gas tank that causes the lean.
Really?

Cause I pulled my gas tank and with front bags at the same PSI my truck still sits lower on the driver's side.

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Really?

Cause I pulled my gas tank and with front bags at the same PSI my truck still sits lower on the driver's side.
its not the gas tank that causes the lean

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Duh. I know that. Apparently y2k doesn't.

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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

even on empty it stills leans, defintiely not the gas tank.
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Guys, guys, guys, first of all, it not the gas tank. let do a little math. Gas weights 6lbs per gallon. If you have a 20 gallon tank (not the 13 gallon) 20x6=120 lbs plus, maybe 25 pounds for the tank, that's roughly 150#'s total, CLEAR FULL!!! Now, I don't know about you, but my tank is damn near never full, more like 1/4 or less most of the time, AND I've never been able to put more then 18.5 in it when it was clear out!. On top of that, it is not very far left of the centerline of the truck anyway.

The skinny on the Chevy lean is this, these truck are not built to be high end top quality vehicles and gm didn't use the best of the best materials to build them. What happens is that most of these truck are driven 90% of the time or more, with one person in them, the driver, right? The stock springs in these truck are pretty low grade and tend to collapse on the left side from the off balance of the weight.

Here's the cheap fix!! Actually, its FREE, just a bit of work. Swap the front and rear springs from one side to the other. Its important to do the front too, it is what is causing the lean, as it has more weight on it (the motor you know) and are they are more prone to collapsing. Trust me guys this is it. I hope this helps.

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Double post, sorry guys

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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

thats a really good try but thats not the answer. if that was the case, when you buy new springs for the truck, expecially lowering springs, the truck should even out, since they're brand new and not collapsed. this however isn't the case. the truck will still lean. i believe it has to do with the spring pocket on the driver's side is just a little bit deeper than the pass. side. why do you think belltech makes that spacer that is like an inch tall, and goes on top of the spring in the driver's side? i agree that over time and with only one person riding in it, it might cause the truck to sag just a little, but not with brand new springs in it.

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I agree with RedSpeck_09, It has to have something to do with the location of the spring pocket or some other mechanical feature of the suspention design. When I put the BellTech springs under my truck, it leaned even worst, than with the factory ones. Kbracing96, not to blow your theory to hell, but cheaper grades of spring steel do not sag easier, than the higher quality grade. If fact cheaper grades will sag less. Lower quality spring steel snaps easier, than high quality. Since nobody on the forum complains about broken springs, I guess GM didn't cheat us on the spring quality. Another thing, I hope you're not really running around with your tank less than 1/4 full, all the time. Your in tank fuel pump uses the fuel around it, to keep it cool. The more fuel, the coller it runs. The cooler it runs, the longer it lasts. You should be keeping your tank more than half full, more than half of the time.
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Re: Relocating fuel tank on a 98 reg cab

when i lowered my truck, it didn't make it lean more, it just made it more noticible. thats what it tends to do when a truck is lowered.

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Ok, ya got me. Was just my best guess anyway. I do believe its not the fuel tank causing the lean though. I didn't know they still leaned with new springs. The spacer for the left front would be a good fix. As far as the spring quality, I have to stand by my theory there a little bit more. Spring steel is a hirer carbon content, tempered steel. over tempering them will cause them to be stiffer and more brittle causing them to brake like you say poconojoe. But generally cheaper spring are made from lower carbon steel because its cheaper, and these will tend not to hold there temper like they should and will collapse over time.

Actually, I do fill my tank about 2 times a week, but with all the miles I put on my truck, it doesn't stay there very long. And I agree that keeping fuel in the tank will help keep the pump cooler and could help it last longer, but I believe that they use these same pumps , but with different inlet/outlets on them for external pumps too. I think that they get adequate cooling from the fuel flowing through the pump. That's one on the reason they bypass the excess fuel from the regulator back to the tank, so fuel is constantly circulating, keaping it cool. Just a thought. When I put a new pump in my truck the new one looked just like an inline pump I have only it has a nipple on the inlet instead of a pickup screen. Feel free to shoot more holes in my theories, That's what I'm here for...

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i bought my 97 new. i noticed it leaning with about 300 miles on it. after i noticed that, i noticed they ALL were like that. its the design, either on purpose, or a goof up.

also, i NEVER see a s-10 with bad front springs. they just don't weaken like they used to in the olden days.

the gas does make it sag a little, as does the driver.

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does anyone have an answer to how to move the fuel tank to the spare tire location?
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does anyone have an answer to how to move the fuel tank to the spare tire location?
Have you thought could happen in a rear end collision?
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Have you thought could happen in a rear end collision?
Do you know how many millions of vehicles have the gas tank in the rear and don't even have a frame to protect it in a collision?
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Do you know how many millions of vehicles have the gas tank in the rear and don't even have a frame to protect it in a collision?
I understand there's million of vehicles on the road with rear mounted gas tanks, I'm just pointing out that they might want to think about it first. JMO
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Doesn't seem like an issue - did you look at the link? He's got the tank surrounded on three sides by the frame and a class 5 hitch receiver, and it's at the rear of a truck. All those millions of cars I mentioned have the tank almost directly under the rear passenger seat and there hasn't been a call for a major redesign for safety reasons.
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Doesn't seem like an issue - did you look at the link? He's got the tank surrounded on three sides by the frame and a class 5 hitch receiver, and it's at the rear of a truck. All those millions of cars I mentioned have the tank almost directly under the rear passenger seat and there hasn't been a call for a major redesign for safety reasons.
Yes I read the link, what do you think would happen if the hitch was pushed into the gas tank what do you think would happen.

You bring up the point about today's cars having the gas tanks mounted under the seat, at least there's a floor board between you and the gas tank. In 1967 I had a new Chevy pickup, guess where the gas tanks was mounted....it was mounted inside the cab behind the seat. Now that was stupid.
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Yes I read the link, what do you think would happen if the hitch was pushed into the gas tank what do you think would happen.
Probably the same thing that would happen to the millions of other vehicles on the road that come from the factory with very similar setups, both with and without a hitch. After all of the testing done on these vehicle designs, the results and statistics obviously show that it's not much of a concern and prompted engineers to direct their R&D to find solutions for seemingly more riskier design "flaws". I believe the hitch adds substantial protection. Besides, the truck is low enough that just about any vehicle rear-ending it would plow into the tailgate and skim over the top of the tank along the floor of the bed.

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...today's cars having the gas tanks mounted under the seat, at least there's a floor board between you and the gas tank.
With my truck, there's about 5' of frame rails, a bed floor, the bed bulkhead, and the back wall of the cab between me and the gas tank.

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The Pinto just needed a Class IV hitch.

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Yes I read the link, what do you think would happen if the hitch was pushed into the gas tank what do you think would happen.
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