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Clanking sound from rear of truck

Hi guys, so I'm trying to figure out why when I go into reverse and I'm going up an incline in Reverse I get a clanking that sounds like it's coming the back of the truck. it seemed to go away when I had less of weight inside the truck but now I'm loaded back up with tools probably four hundred pounds inside my cab . and I just went up a little bit of a incline in reverse and it seems like the clanking increased I wonder what's causing this?

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Clank or ping? I'd check u-joints 1st .Ext cab? Heck all joint in the driveline...trans mount. Are you lowered?

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I would start with joints as well. I did have a rear end fail because it had excessive wear on the ring and pinion. It would clank when going into opposite directions ie if I stopped and went into reverse it would clank. When I stopped going in reverse and went forward again it would clank again
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

If you have an extended cab 2WD with the multi piece drive shaft then there are lots of things that can go wrong with it. If you don't find anything wrong with the drive shaft then check the pinion nut to see if it's still tight. Also check the bolts that hold the rear end to the leaf springs.

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Clank. I checked the u's before and had a couple other people check it too. It's an. Ext cab. Not lowered.
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Anyone know the size of the pinion nut off hand?. It's your standard 7.625 rear end stock on a 03 LS
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

Thanks big gear, I've never tried to tighten the pinion nut before. Is this going to require me to remove the axels and pull the guts out of rear end?
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

No need to remove the axles. I doubt that would be your though. Even if it was, you can't just crank on it because of the crush sleeve. Did you check the other items mentioned?

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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

Im going to check those now, how do i check the tranny mounts & what size are the leaf spring mount bolts if you know off hand?
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

What am feeling for with a bad u and how check the whole drive shaft?
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

Grab it and try to shake it in different directions...try some back & forth rotational movement also. You can unbolt the tranny mount, use a jack to raise the tranny just enough to remove the mount. If it comes out in pieces...problem solved. The rubber separates from the steel.

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Ok, thanks Rhot. How much play in each direction and back and forth is considered it needs to be replaced?
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All you need to do to check the pinion nut is to remove the drive shaft from the rear yoke. It's very common for the pinion nut to back off, but don't tighten it any more than what you are able to do with a common 1/2 inch drive ratchet. Be sure that the truck can not move when you do this. Nobody wants you to get crushed by your truck.

If you feel any loose movement in any of the U joints it's too much.

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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

Make sure your driveshaft splines are greased (if your driveshaft has a slip joint). Sometimes they can stick and release under load, which causes a clanking noise.
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Does this look normal? Ok I have to figure out how remove the shaft from the yoke. How do I grease the splines if I need to is it a zerk grease fitting? Im hearing some clanking inside the tranny housing when i twist it back n forth Thanks
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The four bolts that hold the rear end to the leaf springs are tight, the tranny mount seems ok but it has a 1/4" gap on the top, the plastics still rubbery and flexible, I don't want to take out then not have a mount there huh? I see only one zerk fitting on the drive shaft and its been greased not too long ago.
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

The back of the driveshaft will have straps or u-bolts holding the joint on. Use a Sharpie to mark the shaft and the yoke so that they can be installed in the same place. It looks like there's a lot of rust residue around the joint. If it's questionable at all, I'd take it in and have the entire d/l serviced. It's not that expensive and will save a lot of grief if the joint blows apart. You can do it yourself, but unless you've done them before, I'd let the pros do it.

When you remove the d/s, pull one of the joint caps off and take a look. I'd bet they are close to dry. At that point...replace all of them.

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My left rear wheel is really really hard to rotate both ways when I'm off the ground in neutral, the right rear wheel rotates both directions easily.
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Hmmm... I took off the brake cover and it spins normally, mega brake powder came out, must've been a locked up brake.but now when put the rear drum cover on its like the rear drums over engaged causing the difficulty rotating, I'm in neutral with no parking brake on, I wonder if this resistance is what's causing the clanking, its a sporadic resistance when rotating the rear right.
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I wonder if it's the lip of the drum cover along with brake dust and corrosion that's making it not be able to seat all the way back fully.
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Someone explain to him how to disassemble the drive shaft. I've only had one of those 2 piece units apart, so I'm not real familiar with them. If I'm not mistaken you can get the shaft out of balance if you don't assemble the splines exactly the same way that they came apart.

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That was it. A simple too much dust in the drums and drum covers, from taking the drum covers off and not cleaning them completely water for in and created a build up and they weren't able to fully set back. That must've caused too much resistance in the rear end making it clank. Plus that solved why my ebrake would slowly release and not fully. Thanks all your help.
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Did you grease the contact points on the brake hardware...should do it. There are points on the back of the shoes also. You'll see the rub points when you take the shoes off...or at least pull them away from the backing plate...gently.

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no I didn't grease those points. I'm going to take both of the covers off again and clean them out with brake parts cleaner and I'll grease them then. What type of Grease do I use high temperature grease for your zerk fittings will that work
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Get some hi-temp brake grease.

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Ok, thanks Rhot.
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if you ever remove the driveshaft put a line or mark thru everything that comes apart so it can go back the same.
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Okay, thanks dime.
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Thought I mentioned that...

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Someone explain to him how to disassemble the drive shaft. I've only had one of those 2 piece units apart, so I'm not real familiar with them. If I'm not mistaken you can get the shaft out of balance if you don't assemble the splines exactly the same way that they came apart.

I'm not sure about all 2 piece driveshafts, but on my '01 there is only one way to put it together, no way to mess it up.
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It started doing it when backing again a fast rattle though in the rear of the truck but then other times after it wouldn't doing. Seems like I'm getting vibration in sound and feel from the rear or like up to kinda by my seats. It's not likes a shaking violently though it's been doing this for awhile.
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Is there a howling sound from the rear?
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No not a howl.
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

I think you need to check the entire driveline as suggested. If it comes apart at speed...it's going to be a bad day.

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I think you need to check the entire driveline as suggested. If it comes apart at speed...it's going to be a bad day.
My friend had bad ujoints in her full size 93 blazer. I kept telling her to replace them. They broke and the driveshaft took out the tranfercase and cracked transmission housing.

Check those ujoints asap. Her blazer clanked for 2 weeks before breaking
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Thanks, so any play in the u joints means they're bad right when I twist them it should be completely tight?
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No play in all 3 when I'm on the ground and in park, when I'm in neutral lifted off the ground there is.
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What happens when you fully apply the brake pedal and switch slowly between drive and reverse and back to drive?

Dont allow vehicle to move when doing that
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The truck wants to move a little bit but it doesn't make any clanking or clunking.
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Does the movement feel like the entire truck wants to go forward and back or does it feel like the rear is trying to shift sideways?
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It feels like the whole truck wants to go forward. It doesn't seem like the rear wants to go sideways but I can't seem to tell. Is there another way to check?
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When you checked u joints on the ground did you have 1 hand on opposite sides of the u joints? Try turning the driveshaft in opposite directions at each u joint? I also push and pull driveshaft in opposite directions both up and down and left to right
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Yeah did that all tight maybe 1/6"- 1/8" of play at the rear end joint, I think I found what could be doing it though a crack on the top rubber of the drive line mount near the center.
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There's a crack in that Mount, is this hard to replace?
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

If you have the truck on the ground and the transmission in park then there is probably a little load on the drive shaft. This will prevent you from feeling any loose movement in the joints. You need to check it with no load on the drive shaft, which means have the transmission in neutral and set the brake so that the truck doesn't run over you.

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Thanks big gear, yeah I did that the other day it had all kinds of movement, so any play means there bad?
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Re: Clanking sound from rear of truck

A U joint should be tight, with no movement other than the rotation in the cups that it's supposed to have. If you have any other movement then it's bad.

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Thanks big gear, I checked my U-joints off the ground in neutral and they're all tight don't even move it all but when I rotated at the rear end I can hear a little bit of a Clank like the gears are just locking in place or I don't know if that's them wore out and causing the problem and then also I checked the drive shaft that comes into the transmission and I have a little bit of in and out play right there maybe about a half inch or so and then also I have a little bit of clanking right there where the drive shaft goes into the transmission. Is this normal for the have the little bit of Clank in the rear end and where the drive shaft comes out of the transmission and also the In-N-Out play?
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I saw that pinion nut you were talking about big gear, I can't tell if it's loose though without taking it apart looks like I had maybe about 3/16 to 1/4 inch of thread showing on the end of the bolt.
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