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[ProjecT] The Only Bagged AWD Syclone

As the title states, this thread is going to follow the progress of JimHrabe's Syclone which as far as research has found, is the ONLY bagged Syclone. Not only is it the ONLY bagged Syclone, but it retains the factory AWD which propels the truck to a 12.9 second 1/4 thanks to the Turbo 4.3 V6. Yes, keeping the AWD meant keeping the 4x4 frame and suspension, and YES Jim has cut everything enough to lay the front crossmember on the ground with the axles and CVs still in tact up front. The truck has been bagged for quite a while now but just recently has Jim undertaken the task of laying it flat out. He's asked me to help him with a few things on it and gave me permission to start a thread to hopefully share with you all the truly badass, one of a kind truck that this is. On with the pics!


When I first met Jim in person last week the truck was in the garage with all the work done to lay the front flat out. The bed was off and Jim had gotten all the holes drilled and bolts in for the 1st gen ART Roadgrater that he had gotten for the truck. Since I started helping him we got the notches and gastank crossmember all the way in, bolted up the link bars and a 2wd axle (the truck had a 4x4 axle that was 2" wider per side), and cut out the stock tubs and center of the bed (it pained me to cut up a one owner Sy with only 40,000 original miles). Then we set the bed on for some measurements and fitment checks:




Did I mention that the 4x4 suspension has as much if not more negative camber than a Ranger when layed out?:


and a few more to show the lowness factor:




Here's a few pics from Jim's garage here on the forum of the truck before he cut it to lay flat:
https://www.s10forum.com/garage/index...allery&id=3078
https://www.s10forum.com/garage/index...allery&id=3080
https://www.s10forum.com/garage/index...allery&id=3676
https://www.s10forum.com/garage/index...allery&id=3677
https://www.s10forum.com/garage/index...allery&id=3081
https://www.s10forum.com/garage/index...allery&id=3678

and then here's a few from what he had done with the front before I started helping him:




From as much as I know, the wheels are Billet Specialties and are 18x8s up front with 245/40-18s and 18x8.5s out back with 265/35-18s. They are a 4x4 offset up front and a 4x4 offset minus 1/2" out back. With the 2wd axle in now he'll need to run a 1" spacer to give these rims a proper offset. I'm sure Jim will post up in here to answer any other questions you guys may have or to throw up more info on the truck and maybe even correct some of the stuff I put up (hopefully I got it all right though lol).

Here's a link to Jim's Garage here on the forum:
https://www.s10forum.com/garage/index...E=12&CID=1149#


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So isent he gonna have problems like Ive been hering about bagging 4/awd?

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he can't drive with the front very low because it will blow out the CVs, but he can lay it out no problem when not moving. If he drags it'll be with the back not the front but how many people drag many other ways anyway?
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If he drags it'll be with the back not the front but how many people drag many other ways anyway?
Ugh, alot of people do. Their people like me who aren't afraid to lay it out and drag the shit out of it instead of pussy footing around and just dragging some shit you got welded up under the ass end.

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I'm sure most sy/ty owners will grind their teeth when they see it.

I think it looks mean like that. Really clean and low and still got the performance that they are known for.

I don't know if I could do it though. I've always been the type of half of me likes it the way it is stock and then the other half likes something customized.

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that thing looks bad ass cool $hit guys.

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Ugh, alot of people do. Their people like me who aren't afraid to lay it out and drag the shit out of it instead of pussy footing around and just dragging some shit you got welded up under the ass end.
Well some of us like to keep our trucks looking nice and not dragged to death. To each their own.

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I'm sure most sy/ty owners will grind their teeth when they see it.

I think it looks mean like that. Really clean and low and still got the performance that they are known for.

I don't know if I could do it though. I've always been the type of half of me likes it the way it is stock and then the other half likes something customized.
Yeah...as of a few months ago I could care less what ppl do to there car seing as its there car but What I dont like is when ppl take away the chrome for paint or put in a motor that shouldent be there. Like someone takeing an 85.5 SVO and putting a v8 in it. ya know?

If a vehicle came with a certen motor that made it what it is then keep it there.

I was watching some clasic car show on tv the other day, someone had an all origional 100% base model 60something camero with the I6 still there.

That car is gonna be worth more in value than a car with all the options and the biggest motor that could be shoehorned in it.

Just my take on something but I think if the car/truck whatever came with chrome leave that chrome where it was.

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wow...that thing is insane

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Ugh, alot of people do. Their people like me who aren't afraid to lay it out and drag the shit out of it instead of pussy footing around and just dragging some shit you got welded up under the ass end.
Last time I checked, you still need a frame to call it a truck. Dragging without plating the frame or using some type of drag block is retarded and dangerous. How about not throwing sour milk on this project by critisizing a retarded point and instead give the guy props for accomplishing that much drop with a 4x4.
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Heck yeah, that things bad.

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Hell yea, thats awsome. Boost, Bags... ya can't go wrong.

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Ugh, alot of people do. Their people like me who aren't afraid to lay it out and drag the shit out of it instead of pussy footing around and just dragging some shit you got welded up under the ass end.


Reading owns you. The guy just said he can't drive it flat out or else he'll blow the CV joints. Don't come in here and bash someone for not dragging flat, if he can't drag flat for good reason.

Nothing wrong with draggin blocks. People who say they won't drag blocks because it keeps them from laying out, are obviously the ones who can't figure out a way to mount them so that they accomplish both.


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That thing is insane. You've got to give props to someone willing to take a rare vehicle like that and cut the shit out of it. Can't wait to see this thing done.

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Damn I would love to have that truck, I'd take a bagged one over a stock one any day, but it probably pisses a lot of people off "cutting up such a rare truck"

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thats not a lot of negative camber...


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thats not a lot of negative camber...

thats what i was thinking

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looks good man

theres a bagged sonoma gt dude that buys from us, but i guess that doesnt count because hes 2wd heh

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that's definetly hot. wish i could find a syclone. I'd cut that bish up in a heartbeat, lay out and run 12's. mmmmm.....goosebumps



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12sec 1/4 mil laying frame sounds like fun

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i never knew it had graphics on it. the picture i have saved on my comp is the driver side shot. love the truck. clean as fock

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Yeah I love it as well. Its the beauty of having something so rare and yet still customized without ruing the concept. Nice and clean. WIsh we could see some pics of the front suspension. Some info on what components hes used etc.
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that bitch is sweet as hell. i love those rims too. what are those??? and about not dragging fully laid, **** that. i like my frame where its at.

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nice wheels....??? thats about all I can see in the pics bro, they are too dark to see anything else.....lol

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wow, thats pretty insane, more ballsy than i'd ever care to be, when messin with a sy, but more power to him, props for doin all that..should be sweet in the end.


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I hate to see a Syclone cut up like that. Even though I don't own one I'm one of those guys grinding their teeth. Still nice, don't get me wrong, I'd just hate to cut up a perfectly good Syclone.


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damn that is sick man. i wanna see it when its layed out on the frame i bet it will look sweet as hell

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well I see things like this....how long does the average human live?

Cut that thing up while your still alive.

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sweet, do you have any pics of the how the front is bagged?
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i wanna see a vid of that bitch runnin his 1/4 mile.

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is that guy on the forum and from mokena, IL?? i know there's a bagged typhone or cyclone on here somewhere. i'm not sure if it's got all the AWD stuff on it though.

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how are the bags setup in the front? im assuming its an over the upper control arm setup? can you get some pics of it. my blazers getting 'the treatment' this winter

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is that guy on the forum and from mokena, IL?? i know there's a bagged typhone or cyclone on here somewhere. i'm not sure if it's got all the AWD stuff on it though.
i live in mokena and i don't think he's bagged if you're thinking about the black one..?

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post #40 of 791 Old 07-29-2006, 07:42 PM
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Re: [ProjecT] The Only Bagged AWD Syclone

There is a syclone for sale on gary rd in weaton,il for 8,000. I was going to buy it fix it like new, and sell it on the forum..but I have no money.

turbo work, exhaust work, seats, nitrous, rims, original paint, blah blah i think the turbo blows oil though.


Oh and I just about blew a load when I saw that first pic. The emblem is all shining and shit. Damn thats a low 12 sec truck.

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awesome cutting is good when its not a hack, this obviously isnt hacked

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Re: [ProjecT] The Only Bagged AWD Syclone

Thanks for the compliments guys, I'm sure Jim appreciates them as much as I do (since its his truck and all lol). Yes the AWD is still in tact (I thought I made that clear in the title of the thread?) and YES Jim lives in Mokena, IL. The way the truck is bagged is truly unique. I personally thought it was an over-upper-control-arm type setup before I saw the truck but then I saw it and went "woah...I never thought of doing it like THAT".

The way the setup works is that the bags are mounted on an aftermarket Torsion Bar crossmember. They take the place of the bolts that adjust the ride height with the torsions. There are special keys (that supposedly look like "porkchops") that attach the bags to the torsions and therefore lift the front suspension with the axles still in place. The only downside of this setup is that there are technically 2 springs: the bag and the torsion bar. This makes the setup rather spongy according to Jim and it also takes him A LOT of psi to get to a ride height (like 175). However he did say that the first time he gets on the truck and the weight comes off the front end that the front will ride higher than when he aired it up and then he can drop it down to a lower psi. I was brainstorming and got to thinking that if you could get a piece of solid steel or chromoly round stock thats the same diameter as the torsion and then weld on some hex ends that something like that shouldn't twist like a torsion and then the bag would be the only spring device on the front of the truck.

But since I don't own the truck and its not my call I guess there's really not too much I can do about it lol. I'll just keep putting ideas like this in Jims head and before you know it we'll have the truck stockfloored to lay the kit on 19s and 20s with an IRS he he he

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Re: [ProjecT] The Only Bagged AWD Syclone

Fabricating new, non spring steel, bars to replace the torsions will solve the high psi ride hieght issue I would think. In theory it works.

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you sneaky devil. you know, if you wanted to come to iowa i would let you convinve me to stockfloor my truck to the doors with a smallblock and corvette irs.

you happen to have a pic of how it is setup in the front?

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Its funny, that original Idea I think was pioneered by AIM. I worked on a truck with that same set-up. It was a tahoe and took crazy pressure to lift it. They ended up adding a set of cylinders in the place of the front shocks to help lift it. It was a total hack job. Those kits use 2500lb bags due to tight clearance issues. Due to the short length of the actual porkchop torsion bar key, it takes the high pressure to lift. I was thinking about the torsion bar causing the high pressure and now that I think about it, it absorbs alot of the inital lift of the bag and uses the lift to turn the torsion bar till it actually reaches the spring pressure to lift the truck. I like the whole idea but it could definitely use some fine tuning. I just dont know of what could be used in place of the torsion bar that wouldnt twist when under that kind of force. Its probably about 4 or feet long. I know the full size GM torsions are about 5 ft. If they are the same size, I would try to use a torsion bar from a suburban. it will be stiffer and wont twist as much. Would probaby save some of the pressure in the bag from getting wasted and may give higher lift in the end. I have a set from an escalade so If anyone has exact dimensions we can compare them.
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is that guy on the forum and from mokena, IL?? i know there's a bagged typhone or cyclone on here somewhere. i'm not sure if it's got all the AWD stuff on it though.
Yep its me and yes its bagged you guys should stop by sometime
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I hate to see a Syclone cut up like that. Even though I don't own one I'm one of those guys grinding their teeth. Still nice, don't get me wrong, I'd just hate to cut up a perfectly good Syclone.
All the Sy guys I hang around with like it,almost all sy's are modded in one way or another mine is just all around being done
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Re: [ProjecT] The Only Bagged AWD Syclone

the truck went from cool to hacked in a meer post

Yea my trucks got a few mods
97 std cab S10 4.3 AKA The bodydrop

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i want to see pics of this crossmember

Yea my trucks got a few mods
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