Super 44 question

[Moosy]

I put a Flowmaster super44 on in October, I reused the stock tailpipe, and it sounds great.



But I wouldn't mind it being louder. What options do I have without it getting too raspy or obnoxious.

[Daveman2]

Quote: Originally Posted by Moosy

I put a Flowmaster super44 on in October, I reused the stock tailpipe, and it sounds great.



But I wouldn't mind it being louder. What options do I have without it getting too raspy or obnoxious.

Headers & a Y-pipe, headers will help alot.

[Moosy]

Any recomendations? I'll go do some research on it aswell.

[02_Black_XBlazer]

Your only other option is to split into two pipes, or run a larger diameter pipe. I have a single super 44 3" i/o, all the way out back. The headers and Y-pipe will definitely be a big help too, mine are Edelbrocks, w/ a 3" magnaflow cat.

[02_Black_XBlazer]

BTW..

My old link to my exhaust clip was busted, here's the new one..

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f...62016dc0f4.htm

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

BTW..

My old link to my exhaust clip was busted, here's the new one..

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f...62016dc0f4.htm

sound bad ass dude...wonder if anyone has a super 44 on a 2.8, i would like to compare to mine in my photobucket link in my sig.

[02_Black_XBlazer]

Frankly, if you've heard a original 40 series on a 2.8, you've pretty much heard the Super 44..the only difference is that a lot of that annoying clanging is gone at high rpm and cruising drone is reduced too. Still sounds mostly like a reg 40, with a slightly muted tone above 4500 rpm or so.

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

Frankly, if you've heard a original 40 series on a 2.8, you've pretty much heard the Super 44..the only difference is that a lot of that annoying clanging is gone at high rpm and cruising drone is reduced too. Still sounds mostly like a reg 40, with a slightly muted tone above 4500 rpm or so.

well thats wat i have on my trucknow, a orig. 40 series. CLick my photobucket link and tell me wat you think. Its a 2.8, magnaflow hiflow cat, 3 inch head pipe, single inlet, dual outlet 40 series, custom y pipe and 2.25 in piping out back.

[raven2510]

stock pipe...theres a big problem...get a bigger outlet.

[Daveman2]

Actually running duals will make it quieter, and a bigger muffler pipe isn't going to help that much, but if you do get a bigger pipe get your whole exhaust done with mandrel bends.

As far as headers, I have the JBAs and they're great, just make sure to run the aluminum exhaust gaskets. There's plenty of threads about headers on the forum. Most aftermarket headers run the steering shaft through the headers.

And a new Y-Pipe is generally fabricated, SLP used to make them but they are rare now.

I believe Edelbrock sells a header/y-pipe combo, not sure for what years though.

What performance Mods do you have?
A cold air intake can help with the sound

[Moosy]

Only performance mod has been to de snorkel the intake, I dont think that counts. I was looking at intakes but most of them would look out of place under the hood imo. Right now im saving up for a 2/2 I may take the tailpipe back off and see if that is the problem or if the problem lies before the muffler.

[andrew69_04]

put in a bigger motor if you want it louder...always an option

[MINTSICK]

Quote: Originally Posted by Moosy

Only performance mod has been to de snorkel the intake, I dont think that counts. I was looking at intakes but most of them would look out of place under the hood imo. Right now im saving up for a 2/2 I may take the tailpipe back off and see if that is the problem or if the problem lies before the muffler.

Don't rip the tailpipe off, it'll get louder but will sound like junk. Someone said duals will be quieter, this is really not true if you use the right diameter piping. If you want to stick with single I'd have run 3" but your muffler is probably 2.25" outlet so your other options are larger diameter y pipe or a high flow cat. I put a set of JBA's on my brothers truck when he had it, really was no noticeable difference in sound output honestly...

[Daveman2]

My car was ALOT louder with JBAs, and I still have a stock Y-Pipe, cat, and just a flow 40 cut off after the muffler. I had the Flow-40s before I got JBAs. My car was quieter when I had the piping after the muffler on it, now it just goes straight out of the muffler

I actually like the sound of mine cut off after the muffler, personally I'd experiment with removing sections of it if you want, or make an autozone turndown after the muffler. Just make sure you want to do that before you start cutting.

You can make an air intake REALLY easily with a coupler, about 8" of 3"dia. exhaust tubing, and a cone air filter. paint the piping and it could look great. All I have is from the MAF forward and it makes a good power difference. I'd reccommend one of those cone air filters with the end that is a small inward cone, I actually noticed a difference with a cone-ended filter vs. a cone air filter with a plastic end, but I also have alot of other mods to make use of the CAI.

[tt85_GM]

Nice sound Moosy. For an air intake I just cut the front of the stock box, I don't see the need for a cold air intake, it's not going to make a huge difference, if any. It's just for looks.

[02_Black_XBlazer]

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

well thats wat i have on my trucknow, a orig. 40 series. CLick my photobucket link and tell me wat you think. Its a 2.8, magnaflow hiflow cat, 3 inch head pipe, single inlet, dual outlet 40 series, custom y pipe and 2.25 in piping out back.

I ran across it a while back, sounds good, man. I always liked the ways those 2.8s sounded with a nice exhaust on 'em.

[Moosy]

Was there a big difference between the airbox w/o silencer and the whole front cut open?

[MINTSICK]

Quote: Originally Posted by Moosy

Was there a big difference between the airbox w/o silencer and the whole front cut open?

I once removed just the silencer portion, couldn't tell anything sound or power wise. I'd hack off the front/side of the box if anything.

Just got a chance to listen to the clip at home BTW, sounds pretty good to me.

[Moosy]

Thank you I do really like it, it was idling pretty high in that video i think it was -15 that day.

I'm thinking I will just wait until I can do a full exhaust, to me there is no sense just replacing the cat, or just the tailpipe, I will probably wait until I can do the whole thing at once.

[Moosy]

Just thought I would update... cut air box for the win.

It was quick and easy to do, Since I'm away from home I just walked over to Homedepont (nice day out) and bought a 9 dollar mini hack saw took the air box out, cut out the front, put it all back in and voila louder truck.

[SEAL_515]

How is the interior resonance in the super 44? I got an 02 noma with a 4.3 manual, I wanted to run dual outlet and dump it out the side behing the rear wheels. Any have the flowmaster 50 series?

[Moosy]

Keep in mind I have the full tailpipe on, but with the supper44 and cut airbox, I can close all the windows and barely hear a thing, I also have a sunroof and sliding rear window so its not like my trucks the most soundproof thing to begin with.

[SEAL_515]

Quote: Originally Posted by Moosy

Keep in mind I have the full tailpipe on, but with the supper44 and cut airbox, I can close all the windows and barely hear a thing, I also have a sunroof and sliding rear window so its not like my trucks the most soundproof thing to begin with.

Is yours ext. cab? I got regular. notice any difference besides sound when you cut out your airbox?

[Moosy]

yes reg cab, it seemed a little peppier but dont expect much, its probably just the sound that makes it seem faster.

[SEAL_515]

What is your inlet and outlet size?

[Moosy]

2.25" for both, just stayed stock.

[SEAL_515]

Isn't stock inlet 2.5?

[Moosy]

I'm almost positive it was 2.25 Whatever size I ordered it was stock.

[SEAL_515]

Why did you guys choose the super 44 over the original 40? whats better?

[02_Black_XBlazer]

Quote: Originally Posted by SEAL_515

Why did you guys choose the super 44 over the original 40? whats better?

I chose mine for the simple fact that they sound almost exactly the same in tone, but with much less of that clangy tinny-ness at high rpms, and more of a muted tone at part throttle. This can be good or bad depending on how big of a fan you are of the original 40 series sound.

[Moosy]

I also choose it for its more subtle but still very noticeable sound with any sort of rasp or clang.

[SEAL_515]

it's quieter at interstate speeds? or at a steady speed?

[02_Black_XBlazer]

Both. Everything. Overall. Although "quieter" isn't quite the word.
If the original 40s are a 10/10 on the resonance/clang scale, the Super 44 are still about an 8/10. You're not going to have to scream over your radio at highway speeds, but there's still going to be that drone on the highway.

[Moosy]

exactley what he said, but it is still there when you get on it, for me, especially around 2500 rpm.

[llorracs93s10]

so if i wanted to have it asloud and throaty as possible, wyould true duals with 2 40series or 2 super 44s with two highflow cats be the best bet? I want this thing to be heard a mile away and be throaty as hell....

btw it will have a lt1 in it, still i want to drive by cruising next to someone in low rpms, and still be throaty as hell.

[02_Black_XBlazer]

If loud and throaty is the goal, then the 40s would be louder than the 44s.

If super-ass loud is the goal, performance-curve.com has Flow knock-off single chamber muffs w/ a single 3" in, dual 2.5" outs, or you can just get 2 2.5" single i/o's. That would be the way to go for pure loud, short of no muff at all.

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

If loud and throaty is the goal, then the 40s would be louder than the 44s.

If super-ass loud is the goal, performance-curve.com has Flow knock-off single chamber muffs w/ a single 3" in, dual 2.5" outs, or you can just get 2 2.5" single i/o's. That would be the way to go for pure loud, short of no muff at all.

well i no i cant compare the two...but when a mustang gets a x pipe installed, it just gets so much more loud, throaty and aggressive sounding. I want that kinda deal. I just had one drive by me today and just crusing, i hd my windows up and music on and just the rear sliding window open, and heard it loud and clear.

Thats wat i am looking to get.

like i said, this is a example of how loud i would want mine to be, note it is a mustang, but its loud as F**k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNqu11qjhzM

[02_Black_XBlazer]

That's wierd you would post that...A friend of mine e-mailed me that exact vid a couple weeks ago cuz he was asking me about 44s too...

I think the X pipe does change the tone, but I'm of the belief that the 2 mufflers vs. one has a large part in that sound change as well.

My example for the day is these two brothers that live down the street..Both have Grand prixs, both late 90's, early 00s, whatever. One guy has a GT with a 3" exhaust cat-back w/ a single Borla boomer muffler. His brother has a GTP w/ two 2.25" boomers out back. The kid with the duals (everyone's feelings on the exhaust note of the 3.8s notwithstanding) has a much throatier tone that the single, despite the larger outlet diameter of the single muff. Granted, it's one example only, but you get the point..

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

That's wierd you would post that...A friend of mine e-mailed me that exact vid a couple weeks ago cuz he was asking me about 44s too...

I think the X pipe does change the tone, but I'm of the belief that the 2 mufflers vs. one has a large part in that sound change as well.

My example for the day is these two brothers that live down the street..Both have Grand prixs, both late 90's, early 00s, whatever. One guy has a GT with a 3" exhaust cat-back w/ a single Borla boomer muffler. His brother has a GTP w/ two 2.25" boomers out back. The kid with the duals (everyone's feelings on the exhaust note of the 3.8s notwithstanding) has a much throatier tone that the single, despite the larger outlet diameter of the single muff. Granted, it's one example only, but you get the point..

ya i just cant seem to finda s10v8 with the super 44s, and that was a good example from going from one muffler to teh 44s. Like i said, i just want it to be throaty as hell, no mellow tone, throaty. ANd it will be 2.5 inch pipin, true duals all the way back from the headers.