wet sanding

sdime91506 · 04-13-2008, 08:23 PM

im gunna be wet sanding my truck when i paint it what kind if compound should i use to buff it with?

Matt2000 · 04-17-2008, 03:03 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by sdime91506

im gunna be wet sanding my truck when i paint it what kind if compound should i use to buff it with?

I like the 3M line. Go to your local paint store and they will be able to fix you up with the proper glazes and/or swirl remover/polishes. They can also fix you up with the proper unigrit sandpaper and advise you a bit if you need it/want it. Friends at a proper automotive paint supply can be invaluable.

Remember with the wet sanding it comes off easy but goes back on hard. Some people start with 1500, I prefer to go slower and use 2000.

Soak the paper for at least 15 min before hand, and tape off the edges.

Good luck with it.

Matthew

Dr. Pepper · 04-20-2008, 05:43 PM

tons of work, but WAY worth it. took it to the next level for sure. i also used 3m stuff.

**Sir Toad** · 04-21-2008, 12:32 PM

read my sticky on restoring faded paint and there are pics of the compound,polish and pads that i would recommend....i made sure the product numbers were visible in the pics to avoid confusion.

the starting sandpaper grit depends on how smooth your finish is to start with and the final finish you want....the finer grits will just ride over the orange peel and smooth it a little but...the coarser grits will cut the peel down more

you need to know how much clear is sprayed on to know how much you can safely remove...and no i can't answer that question unless i sprayed it or watched you spray it personally

NotaDime · 04-22-2008, 01:47 AM

3M is so.... 20 years ago.

try this.

http://www.optimumcarcare.com/optimumpolish.html

heres a pic of a customer of mines cars that i buffed on for about 6 hours for major scratches....

i also have before and afters of wetsand jobs if youd like to see some more.

92 s10 project · 04-22-2008, 02:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime

i also have before and afters of wetsand jobs if youd like to see some more.

I wouldn't mind seeing more.

Matt2000 · 04-22-2008, 11:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime

3M is so.... 20 years ago.

try this.

http://www.optimumcarcare.com/optimumpolish.html

heres a pic of a customer of mines cars that i buffed on for about 6 hours for major scratches....

i also have before and afters of wetsand jobs if youd like to see some more.

Nothing wrong with the 3M line, it's probably one of the most, if not the most used line by professionals. I'd take something with a long trusted history over some new super duper product with a label cowritten by a team of lawyers.

The link leads to a swirl remover/glaze compound and a cleaner wax, whats so special about them? You can't possibly be implying that those two compounds will do everything you need to do and are better than 3M's whole product line?

NotaDime · 04-22-2008, 11:33 PM

IMO, i dont like 3M compared to that optimum.

i have been professionally detailing cars for 16 years now, and i started off using 3M, but there is MUCH more out there that is better.
i now own my own detailing business and still do detailing for a living.

how is it better than 3M?
well, it doesnt sling, it doesnt cake up and best of all a little goes a LONG way. you can buff a spot for a few minutes , put down the buffer, walk away then come back and buff some more and wont need more product.

i have been using it now for about 2 years and wouldnt use anything else.

i do a few 100,ooo plus cars and get superior results with there line of products.

Matt2000 · 04-23-2008, 12:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime

IMO, i dont like 3M compared to that optimum.

i have been professionally detailing cars for 16 years now, and i started off using 3M, but there is MUCH more out there that is better.
i now own my own detailing business and still do detailing for a living.

how is it better than 3M?
well, it doesnt sling, it doesnt cake up and best of all a little goes a LONG way. you can buff a spot for a few minutes , put down the buffer, walk away then come back and buff some more and wont need more product.

i have been using it now for about 2 years and wouldnt use anything else.

i do a few 100,ooo plus cars and get superior results with there line of products.

So it has a higher oil content I would guess?

Working on the detailing end I would venture a guess that most of your work can easily be done with those two products, the swirl remover/glaze, and the cleaner wax, but for someone in the refinishing business and such, I expect you'd want a little broader selection which 3M offers. Not that you'd use it all the time, but it's there for when you need it.

I'm not saying they are the best hands down no contest, but locally pretty much everyone I know of in the refinishing and body working business use 3M, it's what I was exposed to growing up, and it's what I use now, and I've never been unhappy with it.

To each their own though, I know some people who swear by turtle wax.

**Sir Toad** · 04-23-2008, 05:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime

IMO, i dont like 3M compared to that optimum.

i have been professionally detailing cars for 16 years now, and i started off using 3M, but there is MUCH more out there that is better.
i now own my own detailing business and still do detailing for a living.

how is it better than 3M?
well, it doesnt sling, it doesnt cake up and best of all a little goes a LONG way. you can buff a spot for a few minutes , put down the buffer, walk away then come back and buff some more and wont need more product.

i have been using it now for about 2 years and wouldnt use anything else.

i do a few 100,ooo plus cars and get superior results with there line of products.

so how is that any different than perfect it 3000?

and don't even try to tell me that shit doesn't sling.....i can sling any non slinging compound or polish

you go ahead and use whatever you want but i PAINT cars....we are talking about wet sanding and buffing a fresh paint job....not DETAILING factory finishes...there's a big difference

i have used lots of products over the years and nothing can touch 3m(and i HATE 3m but i use the best so i don't have much choice)

NotaDime · 04-23-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

you go ahead and use whatever you want but i PAINT cars....we are talking about wet sanding and buffing a fresh paint job....not DETAILING factory finishes...there's a big difference

check out the cover of the december issue of "chevy rumble". thats not factory paint

i got about 45 hours of sanding and buffing on it.

to buff it, only optimum products were used.

NotaDime · 04-23-2008, 07:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime

check out the cover of the december issue of "chevy rumble". thats not factory paint

here, ill make it easier for ya'll non searching ass's

http://chevyrumble.com/ME2/Audiences...17F5A2AB5401FA

indyrado4 · 04-23-2008, 07:55 PM

farecla total one step buffing compound and pad works pretty damn good... and its water-based. i would still reccomend some swirl remover for dark colors and a good hand glase. its been a while since i used perfect-it, but i do remember it working fairly well.

**Sir Toad** · 04-23-2008, 08:36 PM

45 hours to sand and buff a camaro....i don't miss that shit at all

NotaDime · 04-24-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

45 hours to sand and buff a camaro....i don't miss that shit at all

lol. it pays the bills.

04-13-2008, 08:23 PM	#1
sdime91506 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 124 Location: User is: OffLine	wet sanding im gunna be wet sanding my truck when i paint it what kind if compound should i use to buff it with?
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04-17-2008, 03:03 AM	#2
Matt2000 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 102 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding Quote: Originally Posted by sdime91506 im gunna be wet sanding my truck when i paint it what kind if compound should i use to buff it with? I like the 3M line. Go to your local paint store and they will be able to fix you up with the proper glazes and/or swirl remover/polishes. They can also fix you up with the proper unigrit sandpaper and advise you a bit if you need it/want it. Friends at a proper automotive paint supply can be invaluable. Remember with the wet sanding it comes off easy but goes back on hard. Some people start with 1500, I prefer to go slower and use 2000. Soak the paper for at least 15 min before hand, and tape off the edges. Good luck with it. Matthew
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04-20-2008, 05:43 PM	#3
Dr. Pepper cokehead Age: 20 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,691 Location: Libertytown, MD- near Frederick User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding tons of work, but WAY worth it. took it to the next level for sure. i also used 3m stuff.
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04-21-2008, 12:32 PM	#4
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding read my sticky on restoring faded paint and there are pics of the compound,polish and pads that i would recommend....i made sure the product numbers were visible in the pics to avoid confusion. the starting sandpaper grit depends on how smooth your finish is to start with and the final finish you want....the finer grits will just ride over the orange peel and smooth it a little but...the coarser grits will cut the peel down more you need to know how much clear is sprayed on to know how much you can safely remove...and no i can't answer that question unless i sprayed it or watched you spray it personally
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04-22-2008, 01:47 AM	#5
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding 3M is so.... 20 years ago. try this. http://www.optimumcarcare.com/optimumpolish.html heres a pic of a customer of mines cars that i buffed on for about 6 hours for major scratches.... i also have before and afters of wetsand jobs if youd like to see some more. Last edited by NotaDime : 04-22-2008 at 01:53 AM.
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04-22-2008, 02:00 AM	#6
92 s10 project R/C Guru Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 605 Location: St Louis, MO User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime i also have before and afters of wetsand jobs if youd like to see some more. I wouldn't mind seeing more.
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04-22-2008, 11:16 PM	#7
Matt2000 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 102 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime 3M is so.... 20 years ago. try this. http://www.optimumcarcare.com/optimumpolish.html heres a pic of a customer of mines cars that i buffed on for about 6 hours for major scratches.... i also have before and afters of wetsand jobs if youd like to see some more. Nothing wrong with the 3M line, it's probably one of the most, if not the most used line by professionals. I'd take something with a long trusted history over some new super duper product with a label cowritten by a team of lawyers. The link leads to a swirl remover/glaze compound and a cleaner wax, whats so special about them? You can't possibly be implying that those two compounds will do everything you need to do and are better than 3M's whole product line?
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04-22-2008, 11:33 PM	#8
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding IMO, i dont like 3M compared to that optimum. i have been professionally detailing cars for 16 years now, and i started off using 3M, but there is MUCH more out there that is better. i now own my own detailing business and still do detailing for a living. how is it better than 3M? well, it doesnt sling, it doesnt cake up and best of all a little goes a LONG way. you can buff a spot for a few minutes , put down the buffer, walk away then come back and buff some more and wont need more product. i have been using it now for about 2 years and wouldnt use anything else. i do a few 100,ooo plus cars and get superior results with there line of products.
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04-23-2008, 12:19 AM	#9
Matt2000 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 102 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime IMO, i dont like 3M compared to that optimum. i have been professionally detailing cars for 16 years now, and i started off using 3M, but there is MUCH more out there that is better. i now own my own detailing business and still do detailing for a living. how is it better than 3M? well, it doesnt sling, it doesnt cake up and best of all a little goes a LONG way. you can buff a spot for a few minutes , put down the buffer, walk away then come back and buff some more and wont need more product. i have been using it now for about 2 years and wouldnt use anything else. i do a few 100,ooo plus cars and get superior results with there line of products. So it has a higher oil content I would guess? Working on the detailing end I would venture a guess that most of your work can easily be done with those two products, the swirl remover/glaze, and the cleaner wax, but for someone in the refinishing business and such, I expect you'd want a little broader selection which 3M offers. Not that you'd use it all the time, but it's there for when you need it. I'm not saying they are the best hands down no contest, but locally pretty much everyone I know of in the refinishing and body working business use 3M, it's what I was exposed to growing up, and it's what I use now, and I've never been unhappy with it. To each their own though, I know some people who swear by turtle wax.
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04-23-2008, 05:37 PM	#10
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime IMO, i dont like 3M compared to that optimum. i have been professionally detailing cars for 16 years now, and i started off using 3M, but there is MUCH more out there that is better. i now own my own detailing business and still do detailing for a living. how is it better than 3M? well, it doesnt sling, it doesnt cake up and best of all a little goes a LONG way. you can buff a spot for a few minutes , put down the buffer, walk away then come back and buff some more and wont need more product. i have been using it now for about 2 years and wouldnt use anything else. i do a few 100,ooo plus cars and get superior results with there line of products. so how is that any different than perfect it 3000? and don't even try to tell me that shit doesn't sling.....i can sling any non slinging compound or polish you go ahead and use whatever you want but i PAINT cars....we are talking about wet sanding and buffing a fresh paint job....not DETAILING factory finishes...there's a big difference i have used lots of products over the years and nothing can touch 3m(and i HATE 3m but i use the best so i don't have much choice)
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04-23-2008, 07:00 PM	#11
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad you go ahead and use whatever you want but i PAINT cars....we are talking about wet sanding and buffing a fresh paint job....not DETAILING factory finishes...there's a big difference check out the cover of the december issue of "chevy rumble". thats not factory paint i got about 45 hours of sanding and buffing on it. to buff it, only optimum products were used.
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04-23-2008, 07:03 PM	#12
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime check out the cover of the december issue of "chevy rumble". thats not factory paint here, ill make it easier for ya'll non searching ass's http://chevyrumble.com/ME2/Audiences...17F5A2AB5401FA
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04-23-2008, 07:55 PM	#13
indyrado4 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 206 Location: Valparaiso, IN User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding farecla total one step buffing compound and pad works pretty damn good... and its water-based. i would still reccomend some swirl remover for dark colors and a good hand glase. its been a while since i used perfect-it, but i do remember it working fairly well.
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04-23-2008, 08:36 PM	#14
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding 45 hours to sand and buff a camaro....i don't miss that shit at all
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04-24-2008, 05:17 PM	#15
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: wet sanding Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad 45 hours to sand and buff a camaro....i don't miss that shit at all lol. it pays the bills.
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