Removing paint swirls

scrubz · 07-12-2009, 12:42 PM

Ok, once again I tried to do something I shouldn't have. I buffed my truck with a high speed buffer and some finishing compound (3M, "FinesseIt" I think it was called)

anyway, stepped back from inside the shop, looks great. Pulled out into the sunlight, yeah swirls like hell on the bedsides, tailgate and parts of the hood.

Is it the paint or the clear? Looks kind of like there is a film over it, or a spiderweb or something. Just how do I get it off? Wax? Claybar?

**Sir Toad** · 07-12-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scrubz

Ok, once again I tried to do something I shouldn't have. I buffed my truck with a high speed buffer and some finishing compound (3M, "FinesseIt" I think it was called)

anyway, stepped back from inside the shop, looks great. Pulled out into the sunlight, yeah swirls like hell on the bedsides, tailgate and parts of the hood.

Is it the paint or the clear? Looks kind of like there is a film over it, or a spiderweb or something. Just how do I get it off? Wax? Claybar?

that glaze and that foam pad(not the wool pad in the bag)

polish at slow speed....take your time and don't let it dry on the surface

NotaDime · 07-12-2009, 12:48 PM

a high speed buffer is the only thing that will create "swirls".

i dont know why inexperienced people insist on using one.

its the best way to ruin your paint.

sykominitrkr · 07-13-2009, 05:49 PM

Everyone's gotta start somewhere...

jcrazyjj · 07-13-2009, 05:56 PM

atleast it was on his own car.

and not a garage detailer claiming to know how to use one.

scrubz · 07-13-2009, 07:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime

a high speed buffer is the only thing that will create "swirls".

i dont know why inexperienced people insist on using one.

its the best way to ruin your paint.

I didn't insist, I tried to learn something new, beat off.

Toad - just use a microfiber to wipe it off with, the glaze I mean?

To the rest of ya THANK YOU

NotaDime · 07-13-2009, 07:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scrubz

I didn't insist, I tried to learn something new, beat off.

hey thanks for the idea!

oh and FYI, glaze does not remove swirls, it just hides them. good luck with that though.........

**Sir Toad** · 07-13-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime

hey thanks for the idea!

oh and FYI, glaze does not remove swirls, it just hides them. good luck with that though.........

why don't you try reading the label on the machine glaze bottle in the picture i posted before you start spouting off like you know what you are talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

***sdime98*** · 07-13-2009, 09:45 PM

but wait...i thought he does know what he is talking about..

just like he said all 98+ grilles were one-piece.

NotaDime · 07-14-2009, 12:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sdime98

but wait...i thought he does know what he is talking about..

just like he said all 98+ grilles were one-piece.

umm ya ok, funny thing, half the people said they were and were not bolt on. even the toad said some dont unbolt if im not mistaken. it is hit or miss with them unbolting. i have never seen any unbolt.

and as far as it being a "remover"......good luck with that, buff it with that and post pics after say, 4 months.

i dont care what the bottle says, it will NOT remove them.

here read up on it....
http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...vs-polish.html

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...and-glaze.html

and im not just saying this because i "read it on a forum"

i have been detailing cars professionally for the last 16 years, and have owned my own business doing it for over 7 of those years..........

wagonproject · 07-14-2009, 01:27 PM

The glaze term is used a lot, but not always used as we think. The 05937 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze which is in the pic above contains no fillers either, its more a light polish/true swirl remover than a "glaze." Its been a while since I used it as my 3M products sit on the shelf, but if I remember correctly it wasn't my last step, as to me it was a little aggressive for a final polish.

Most products are going to leave "something" behind. I always do an IPA wipedown just to reassure that all polish is removed.

Are you seeing swirls or buffer trails you caused? If your seeing the stripes then you didn't work the product long enough or too long. You could have used too much speed or pressure or both or just used a dirty pad. I would get a better finishing polish.

scrubz · 07-14-2009, 02:14 PM

swirls, definetly. It could have been a dirty pad, it was used on the boss's bed before mine, but his turned out pretty good. I left it on the same speed too, and was told the key is to "keep moving" so you don't heat the paint up too much which I didn't I just swirled it like hell

NotaDime · 07-14-2009, 02:54 PM

yes, you want to keep it moving at an even pace, and try to keep the pad as flat as possible with the right side up just a tad whenever possible.

like toad mentioned not to do, did you use a wool pad?

**Sir Toad** · 07-14-2009, 07:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime

umm ya ok, funny thing, half the people said they were and were not bolt on. even the toad said some dont unbolt if im not mistaken. it is hit or miss with them unbolting. i have never seen any unbolt.

and as far as it being a "remover"......good luck with that, buff it with that and post pics after say, 4 months.

i dont care what the bottle says, it will NOT remove them.

here read up on it....
http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...vs-polish.html

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...and-glaze.html

and im not just saying this because i "read it on a forum"

i have been detailing cars professionally for the last 16 years, and have owned my own business doing it for over 7 of those years..........

and i bet you have NEVER used that product...if you have then you used it incorrectly....i have been using that product since it was introduced...mmmmm 9ish(???) years ago....

my boss had issues with it and had a 3m rep come by...the rep had issues with it....so me being the professional i was, asked if i could try....i blobbed a bunch on the section of the panel and the rep freaked out....said "that is enough product to do the whole car"....

i replied that black was a whole different ball game....

so after polishing at the lowest speed on the buffer(i think 1200rpm) for a very long time moving very slowly i told them to pull it into the sun....

guess what?????

no swirls.........

so you can say what you want to say,being a detailer.....i am a PAINTER....i can put out a perfect finish if that is what the job requires...

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

The glaze term is used a lot, but not always used as we think. The 05937 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze which is in the pic above contains no fillers either, its more a light polish/true swirl remover than a "glaze." Its been a while since I used it as my 3M products sit on the shelf, but if I remember correctly it wasn't my last step, as to me it was a little aggressive for a final polish.

Most products are going to leave "something" behind. I always do an IPA wipedown just to reassure that all polish is removed.

Are you seeing swirls or buffer trails you caused? If your seeing the stripes then you didn't work the product long enough or too long. You could have used too much speed or pressure or both or just used a dirty pad. I would get a better finishing polish.

EXACTLY......

and no,it is not the final polish,it is a swirl mark REMOVER!

NotaDime · 07-14-2009, 08:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

so you can say what you want to say,being a detailer.....i am a PAINTER....i can put out a perfect finish if that is what the job requires...

ya and as being a painter 90% of the time you never see the vehicle again, i MAINTAIN them, seeing them come back after that good ole' glaze wears off........... like i stated above, come back in 4 or so months and post up some pics of same vehicle.

and also, i have used just about everything in the 3M detailers line, but i stopped using it all about 6 years ago, cause that shit is to messy, u have to use to much of it, and its costly. (allthough i do pay $100.oo a gal for my polish's, so im not really complaining about cost)

3M used to be my favorite product out there but now there is MUCH more stuff out there that is far more Superior

but you use what you use, i use what i use, and this guy.....well, he does what he does.

**Sir Toad** · 07-14-2009, 08:13 PM

no,i never have return customers

i'm not getting in a pissing match with you...i KNOW the stuff REMOVES swirls.

NotaDime · 07-14-2009, 08:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

no,i never have return customers

so no one ever crashes there ride after you fix it, or they just dont bring bring it back to you when they do

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

no,i never have return customers

i'm not getting in a pissing match with you...i KNOW the stuff REMOVES swirls.

im not arguing with you or trying to "get into a pissing match" im just stating my experience with glaze.

how do you know the stuff removes swirls though if the car doesnt come back again, if glaze fills (hides) swirls, it is going to look like they are removed when you are done buffing it.

again, im not trying to be a d!ck, just trying to make others aware of what glaze really is/does.

**Sir Toad** · 07-14-2009, 08:26 PM

OMG!

i can not believe i am replying to this....either you are being a dick or you have issues.

did you see the 'rolleyes' behind my comment?

that meant i was being sarcastic.

i ALWAYS have return customers because i do exceptional work.

that machine glaze i use REMOVES ****ING SWIRL ****ING MARKS!

NotaDime · 07-14-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

OMG!

i can not believe i am replying to this....either you are being a dick or you have issues.

did you see the 'rolleyes' behind my comment?

that meant i was being sarcastic.

i know, i was trying to get under them warts......

wagonproject · 07-14-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

EXACTLY......

and no,it is not the final polish,it is a swirl mark REMOVER!

Yeah I was just stating as he was trying to use it as a one step, so it was to aggressive.

dropjawjimmy · 07-14-2009, 08:58 PM

yeah the swirl remover is good use it at a low speed 1200-800 if yours goes that low and If you still have problems 3M make a product called ultrafina its a swirl "eliminator" seems to work pretty good. IMO

scrubz · 07-16-2009, 08:48 PM

toad, check this out. You may have actually even heard of this, but probably on temporary

I stopped @ the dealership I worked at and talked with the bodyshop manager. He said him, his father, and his grandfather both used corn starch? I know I didn't get it at first either. But yeah, clean it, take a handfull of the stuff and throw it on the car. Work it in LIGHTLY untill it disappears into the paint. Then hose it off, wax. BAM no swirls

Again, probably temporary but cheap non the less. Ever heard of such a thing

wagonproject · 07-16-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scrubz

toad, check this out. You may have actually even heard of this, but probably on temporary

I stopped @ the dealership I worked at and talked with the bodyshop manager. He said him, his father, and his grandfather both used corn starch? I know I didn't get it at first either. But yeah, clean it, take a handfull of the stuff and throw it on the car. Work it in LIGHTLY untill it disappears into the paint. Then hose it off, wax. BAM no swirls

Again, probably temporary but cheap non the less. Ever heard of such a thing

lol, please don't do this, this is old school "detailing"

Cornstarch, water, and a bit of kerosene to keep it fluid was the formula I learned from a lot of old timers.

**Sir Toad** · 07-16-2009, 09:09 PM

i'll pass

scrubz · 07-24-2009, 09:53 AM

toad, gettting ready to order the stuff you recommended. any other tips?
Also what's a good finishing material? A nice wax?

NotaDime · 07-24-2009, 10:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scrubz

A nice wax?

collinite 476s FTW!

NOTHING lasts longer than it, but thats just my opinion and ive used it for over 7 years.

here read a few articles about it. you wont find a bad review.
collinite reviews

badmatt · 07-25-2009, 05:02 PM

DoDo Juice for wax.. collinite suck's in depth and clarity in my opinion....

GeorgesBlazah · 07-27-2009, 12:57 PM

Yeah Dodo juice if you only want it to last a month. That is more of a beauty wax and costs 5x what 476s does.

NotaDime · 07-27-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah

Yeah Dodo juice if you only want it to last a month. That is more of a beauty wax and costs 5x what 476s does.

badmatt · 07-27-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah

Yeah Dodo juice if you only want it to last a month. That is more of a beauty wax and costs 5x what 476s does.

still looks better though... and ive had just over 3 months of protection with purple haze..

scrubz · 07-27-2009, 04:19 PM

collinite? I haven't heard of it. They carry it @ AZ, Napa, etc?

wagonproject · 07-27-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by badmatt

still looks better though... and ive had just over 3 months of protection with purple haze..

Have you used both? I used to buy almost every new wax that came out as I gave into the "different wax looks hype." I had hundreds of dollars in waxes/sealants. Yes, there maybe a very small difference in looks in some. The average person is never going to notice the difference. It all comes down to the paint surface and how well it was prepped. Why spend $70 or so bucks on purple haze when I can have an excellent wax for around $15

wagonproject · 07-27-2009, 04:29 PM

You can get collinite at Harbor Freight.

07-12-2009, 12:42 PM	#1
scrubz 355 member Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 12,080 Location: Charlotte, NC User is: OffLine	Removing paint swirls Ok, once again I tried to do something I shouldn't have. I buffed my truck with a high speed buffer and some finishing compound (3M, "FinesseIt" I think it was called) anyway, stepped back from inside the shop, looks great. Pulled out into the sunlight, yeah swirls like hell on the bedsides, tailgate and parts of the hood. Is it the paint or the clear? Looks kind of like there is a film over it, or a spiderweb or something. Just how do I get it off? Wax? Claybar?
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07-12-2009, 12:47 PM	#2
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by scrubz Ok, once again I tried to do something I shouldn't have. I buffed my truck with a high speed buffer and some finishing compound (3M, "FinesseIt" I think it was called) anyway, stepped back from inside the shop, looks great. Pulled out into the sunlight, yeah swirls like hell on the bedsides, tailgate and parts of the hood. Is it the paint or the clear? Looks kind of like there is a film over it, or a spiderweb or something. Just how do I get it off? Wax? Claybar? that glaze and that foam pad(not the wool pad in the bag) polish at slow speed....take your time and don't let it dry on the surface
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07-12-2009, 12:48 PM	#3
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls a high speed buffer is the only thing that will create "swirls". i dont know why inexperienced people insist on using one. its the best way to ruin your paint.
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07-13-2009, 05:49 PM	#4
sykominitrkr Minitruckin' 4 life!!! Age: 32 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,480 Location: S.A. TX. User is: Online	Re: Removing paint swirls Everyone's gotta start somewhere...
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07-13-2009, 05:56 PM	#5
jcrazyjj <3's EDM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 815 Location: Shelby Twp, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls atleast it was on his own car. and not a garage detailer claiming to know how to use one.
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07-13-2009, 07:01 PM	#6
scrubz 355 member Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 12,080 Location: Charlotte, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime a high speed buffer is the only thing that will create "swirls". i dont know why inexperienced people insist on using one. its the best way to ruin your paint. I didn't insist, I tried to learn something new, beat off. Toad - just use a microfiber to wipe it off with, the glaze I mean? To the rest of ya THANK YOU Last edited by scrubz : 07-13-2009 at 07:03 PM.
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07-13-2009, 07:07 PM	#7
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by scrubz I didn't insist, I tried to learn something new, beat off. hey thanks for the idea! oh and FYI, glaze does not remove swirls, it just hides them. good luck with that though......... Last edited by NotaDime : 07-13-2009 at 07:08 PM.
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07-13-2009, 09:04 PM	#8
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime hey thanks for the idea! oh and FYI, glaze does not remove swirls, it just hides them. good luck with that though......... why don't you try reading the label on the machine glaze bottle in the picture i posted before you start spouting off like you know what you are talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07-13-2009, 09:45 PM	#9
*sdime98* slowly, but surely. Age: 24 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 49,347 Location: Laurel Hill, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls but wait...i thought he does know what he is talking about.. just like he said all 98+ grilles were one-piece.
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07-14-2009, 12:26 PM	#10
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by sdime98 but wait...i thought he does know what he is talking about.. just like he said all 98+ grilles were one-piece. umm ya ok, funny thing, half the people said they were and were not bolt on. even the toad said some dont unbolt if im not mistaken. it is hit or miss with them unbolting. i have never seen any unbolt. and as far as it being a "remover"......good luck with that, buff it with that and post pics after say, 4 months. i dont care what the bottle says, it will NOT remove them. here read up on it.... http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...vs-polish.html http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...and-glaze.html and im not just saying this because i "read it on a forum" i have been detailing cars professionally for the last 16 years, and have owned my own business doing it for over 7 of those years.......... Last edited by NotaDime : 07-14-2009 at 12:30 PM.
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07-14-2009, 01:27 PM	#11
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls The glaze term is used a lot, but not always used as we think. The 05937 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze which is in the pic above contains no fillers either, its more a light polish/true swirl remover than a "glaze." Its been a while since I used it as my 3M products sit on the shelf, but if I remember correctly it wasn't my last step, as to me it was a little aggressive for a final polish. Most products are going to leave "something" behind. I always do an IPA wipedown just to reassure that all polish is removed. Are you seeing swirls or buffer trails you caused? If your seeing the stripes then you didn't work the product long enough or too long. You could have used too much speed or pressure or both or just used a dirty pad. I would get a better finishing polish.
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07-14-2009, 02:14 PM	#12
scrubz 355 member Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 12,080 Location: Charlotte, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls swirls, definetly. It could have been a dirty pad, it was used on the boss's bed before mine, but his turned out pretty good. I left it on the same speed too, and was told the key is to "keep moving" so you don't heat the paint up too much which I didn't I just swirled it like hell
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07-14-2009, 02:54 PM	#13
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls yes, you want to keep it moving at an even pace, and try to keep the pad as flat as possible with the right side up just a tad whenever possible. like toad mentioned not to do, did you use a wool pad?
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07-14-2009, 07:19 PM	#14
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by NotaDime umm ya ok, funny thing, half the people said they were and were not bolt on. even the toad said some dont unbolt if im not mistaken. it is hit or miss with them unbolting. i have never seen any unbolt. and as far as it being a "remover"......good luck with that, buff it with that and post pics after say, 4 months. i dont care what the bottle says, it will NOT remove them. here read up on it.... http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...vs-polish.html http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...and-glaze.html and im not just saying this because i "read it on a forum" i have been detailing cars professionally for the last 16 years, and have owned my own business doing it for over 7 of those years.......... and i bet you have NEVER used that product...if you have then you used it incorrectly....i have been using that product since it was introduced...mmmmm 9ish(???) years ago.... my boss had issues with it and had a 3m rep come by...the rep had issues with it....so me being the professional i was, asked if i could try....i blobbed a bunch on the section of the panel and the rep freaked out....said "that is enough product to do the whole car".... i replied that black was a whole different ball game.... so after polishing at the lowest speed on the buffer(i think 1200rpm) for a very long time moving very slowly i told them to pull it into the sun.... guess what????? no swirls......... so you can say what you want to say,being a detailer.....i am a PAINTER....i can put out a perfect finish if that is what the job requires... Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject The glaze term is used a lot, but not always used as we think. The 05937 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze which is in the pic above contains no fillers either, its more a light polish/true swirl remover than a "glaze." Its been a while since I used it as my 3M products sit on the shelf, but if I remember correctly it wasn't my last step, as to me it was a little aggressive for a final polish. Most products are going to leave "something" behind. I always do an IPA wipedown just to reassure that all polish is removed. Are you seeing swirls or buffer trails you caused? If your seeing the stripes then you didn't work the product long enough or too long. You could have used too much speed or pressure or both or just used a dirty pad. I would get a better finishing polish. EXACTLY...... and no,it is not the final polish,it is a swirl mark REMOVER!
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07-14-2009, 08:05 PM	#15
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad so you can say what you want to say,being a detailer.....i am a PAINTER....i can put out a perfect finish if that is what the job requires... ya and as being a painter 90% of the time you never see the vehicle again, i MAINTAIN them, seeing them come back after that good ole' glaze wears off........... like i stated above, come back in 4 or so months and post up some pics of same vehicle. and also, i have used just about everything in the 3M detailers line, but i stopped using it all about 6 years ago, cause that shit is to messy, u have to use to much of it, and its costly. (allthough i do pay $100.oo a gal for my polish's, so im not really complaining about cost) 3M used to be my favorite product out there but now there is MUCH more stuff out there that is far more Superior but you use what you use, i use what i use, and this guy.....well, he does what he does. Last edited by NotaDime : 07-14-2009 at 08:11 PM.
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07-14-2009, 08:13 PM	#16
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls no,i never have return customers i'm not getting in a pissing match with you...i KNOW the stuff REMOVES swirls.
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07-14-2009, 08:19 PM	#17
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad no,i never have return customers so no one ever crashes there ride after you fix it, or they just dont bring bring it back to you when they do Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad no,i never have return customers i'm not getting in a pissing match with you...i KNOW the stuff REMOVES swirls. im not arguing with you or trying to "get into a pissing match" im just stating my experience with glaze. how do you know the stuff removes swirls though if the car doesnt come back again, if glaze fills (hides) swirls, it is going to look like they are removed when you are done buffing it. again, im not trying to be a d!ck, just trying to make others aware of what glaze really is/does.
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07-14-2009, 08:26 PM	#18
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls OMG! i can not believe i am replying to this....either you are being a dick or you have issues. did you see the 'rolleyes' behind my comment? that meant i was being sarcastic. i ALWAYS have return customers because i do exceptional work. that machine glaze i use REMOVES **ING SWIRL **ING MARKS!
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07-14-2009, 08:28 PM	#19
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad OMG! i can not believe i am replying to this....either you are being a dick or you have issues. did you see the 'rolleyes' behind my comment? that meant i was being sarcastic. i know, i was trying to get under them warts......
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07-14-2009, 08:41 PM	#20
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad EXACTLY...... and no,it is not the final polish,it is a swirl mark REMOVER! Yeah I was just stating as he was trying to use it as a one step, so it was to aggressive.
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07-14-2009, 08:58 PM	#21
dropjawjimmy "It was all a Dream" Age: 28 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 574 Location: Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls yeah the swirl remover is good use it at a low speed 1200-800 if yours goes that low and If you still have problems 3M make a product called ultrafina its a swirl "eliminator" seems to work pretty good. IMO
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07-16-2009, 08:48 PM	#22
scrubz 355 member Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 12,080 Location: Charlotte, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls toad, check this out. You may have actually even heard of this, but probably on temporary I stopped @ the dealership I worked at and talked with the bodyshop manager. He said him, his father, and his grandfather both used corn starch? I know I didn't get it at first either. But yeah, clean it, take a handfull of the stuff and throw it on the car. Work it in LIGHTLY untill it disappears into the paint. Then hose it off, wax. BAM no swirls Again, probably temporary but cheap non the less. Ever heard of such a thing
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07-16-2009, 09:06 PM	#23
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by scrubz toad, check this out. You may have actually even heard of this, but probably on temporary I stopped @ the dealership I worked at and talked with the bodyshop manager. He said him, his father, and his grandfather both used corn starch? I know I didn't get it at first either. But yeah, clean it, take a handfull of the stuff and throw it on the car. Work it in LIGHTLY untill it disappears into the paint. Then hose it off, wax. BAM no swirls Again, probably temporary but cheap non the less. Ever heard of such a thing lol, please don't do this, this is old school "detailing" Cornstarch, water, and a bit of kerosene to keep it fluid was the formula I learned from a lot of old timers.
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07-16-2009, 09:09 PM	#24
Sir Toad drunk and bored Age: 40 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 28,512 Location: galesburg(or morton), il User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls i'll pass
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07-24-2009, 09:53 AM	#25
scrubz 355 member Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 12,080 Location: Charlotte, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls toad, gettting ready to order the stuff you recommended. any other tips? Also what's a good finishing material? A nice wax?
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07-24-2009, 10:14 PM	#26
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by scrubz A nice wax? collinite 476s FTW! NOTHING lasts longer than it, but thats just my opinion and ive used it for over 7 years. here read a few articles about it. you wont find a bad review. collinite reviews Last edited by NotaDime : 07-24-2009 at 10:16 PM.
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07-25-2009, 05:02 PM	#27
badmatt Uncommon Engineering Age: 20 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 671 Location: winnipeg User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls DoDo Juice for wax.. collinite suck's in depth and clarity in my opinion....
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07-27-2009, 12:57 PM	#28
GeorgesBlazah Slap my meat on your pita Age: 24 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,215 Location: south jersey User is: Online	Re: Removing paint swirls Yeah Dodo juice if you only want it to last a month. That is more of a beauty wax and costs 5x what 476s does. Last edited by GeorgesBlazah : 07-27-2009 at 12:58 PM.
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07-27-2009, 01:50 PM	#29
NotaDime UN-BANNED B!TCHES!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,335 Location: Home. User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah Yeah Dodo juice if you only want it to last a month. That is more of a beauty wax and costs 5x what 476s does.
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07-27-2009, 03:32 PM	#30
badmatt Uncommon Engineering Age: 20 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 671 Location: winnipeg User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah Yeah Dodo juice if you only want it to last a month. That is more of a beauty wax and costs 5x what 476s does. still looks better though... and ive had just over 3 months of protection with purple haze..
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07-27-2009, 04:19 PM	#31
scrubz 355 member Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 12,080 Location: Charlotte, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls collinite? I haven't heard of it. They carry it @ AZ, Napa, etc?
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07-27-2009, 04:24 PM	#32
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls Quote: Originally Posted by badmatt still looks better though... and ive had just over 3 months of protection with purple haze.. Have you used both? I used to buy almost every new wax that came out as I gave into the "different wax looks hype." I had hundreds of dollars in waxes/sealants. Yes, there maybe a very small difference in looks in some. The average person is never going to notice the difference. It all comes down to the paint surface and how well it was prepped. Why spend $70 or so bucks on purple haze when I can have an excellent wax for around $15
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07-27-2009, 04:29 PM	#33
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Removing paint swirls You can get collinite at Harbor Freight.
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