cleaning/ prepping fram for paint?

97s10chevy · 07-16-2006, 06:57 PM

How do u guys clean ur fram to prep it for paint, mine is extremely rusty and wanted some tips or maybe what to use (besides sandblasting) to get it ready for paint.

perfect 10 · 07-16-2006, 09:22 PM

What i have done to mine so far is take a wire brush wheel that you use with a drill and attack it with that..works very well and some spots that are worse i use my orbital sander. Once clean i hit it with eastwood pre cleaner then eastwood rust encapsulator and finally a coat of eastwood extreme chassis black. So far it has turned out great and looks really smooth. The eastwood chassis black is pretty much like por-15 and works great!

97s10chevy · 07-16-2006, 11:13 PM

what do u use to get the inside of the frame? I am using a wire brush and angle grider for the inside but can't get it in between the frame.

perfect 10 · 07-17-2006, 08:41 AM

I got a real small wire wheel like a 2" i think it is and i have a flex shaft for my drill, this has worked well for the tuff to reach spots.

NickZigaitis · 07-17-2006, 11:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 97s10chevy

what do u use to get the inside of the frame? I am using a wire brush and angle grider for the inside but can't get it in between the frame.

I have just completed the frame and painted it. I also used Eastwoods Extreme Chassis Hi-Gloss Black paint. To clean the frame I used a wire brush and brake cleaner. But first i would use a putty knife to scrap a lot of that rubbery tar shit off the frame. Then brake clean and wipe as much off with a rag, then I would wire brush it. For the inside of the frame, i did the same thing. A little trick I found was to take a small propane torch and heat the frame to melt that rubbery shit. Then I would shoot brake cleaner on it and blow that shit out of there. PLease where a mask when doing this. Singed brake cleaner creates a powerful vapor. Then I primed and painted it. It took 1 quart of Eastwood's chassis primer but it took 3 quarts almost to lay down a good, heavy and even coat of the top coat. Here were the results.

Before

Clean

After

97s10chevy · 07-17-2006, 01:09 PM

mine gets nowhere near that clean with just the wire wheel, but then again my frame was a bout 10 times rustier than urs to begin with

NickZigaitis · 07-17-2006, 02:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 97s10chevy

mine gets nowhere near that clean with just the wire wheel, but then again my frame was a bout 10 times rustier than urs to begin with

Brake cleaner helps. A flap disc also helps. Here is my axle. It was crazy f-ing rusty. Then I degreased it and spent a couple hours flap disc sanding it and then shot several coats of slick sand and then primed and painted it. Your rusty frame can look just as good. Just takes twice as long. Tray a flap disc on your frame. I spent about 2, almost 3 weeks cleaning the frame before I even start the fab work.

Rusty Shit

Rusty shit grinded off

Slick Sand high build primer. Seals rust and levels the surface.

Eastwoods Chassis Primer

Eastwoods Hi-Gloss Extreme Chassis

quickline23 · 07-17-2006, 04:04 PM

thats looks awesome i am in the process of cleaning my frame up as we speak now to. its getting there just a taking some time to get the rust off

NickZigaitis · 07-17-2006, 04:34 PM

Don't get discourage about how long it takes. Stay detail oriented and get ever nook and cranny.

I shot the frame with 1quart of primer and 3 quarts of gloss. Keep that in mind. I originally shot the 1 quart of primer and the 1 quart of gloss. The primer went on good but the gloss coat was too thin and 1 quart for the whole frame is really stretching it. I blasted the frame with a syphon feed gun 1.6 tip tuned to limit the flow as much as possible. I ended up ordering 2 more quarts. Keep that in mind.

97s10chevy · 07-17-2006, 04:47 PM

how does naval jelly work? Does it do anything?

bagged85 · 07-20-2006, 12:13 AM

that looks mint, i was lazy and just knocked the rust off with a hammer n wire brushed briefly by hand then sprayed bed liner on it lol ( it show but looks better)

comics22 · 07-31-2006, 12:40 AM

lol i was thinkin the same but usin like rustoleum and paintin that on...

DfntPntbll · 08-02-2006, 04:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NickZigaitis

Don't get discourage about how long it takes. Stay detail oriented and get ever nook and cranny.

I shot the frame with 1quart of primer and 3 quarts of gloss. Keep that in mind. I originally shot the 1 quart of primer and the 1 quart of gloss. The primer went on good but the gloss coat was too thin and 1 quart for the whole frame is really stretching it. I blasted the frame with a syphon feed gun 1.6 tip tuned to limit the flow as much as possible. I ended up ordering 2 more quarts. Keep that in mind.

I hate you,.. you and your money,..... and your time,...

j/k man. I have followed your thread and it is looking totally nuts. wish I had the time, money, skill,... aw hell,.. I wish I was you.

07-16-2006, 06:57 PM	#1
97s10chevy Ruff Ryder Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 644 Location: Joplin, Missouri User is: OffLine	cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? How do u guys clean ur fram to prep it for paint, mine is extremely rusty and wanted some tips or maybe what to use (besides sandblasting) to get it ready for paint.
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07-16-2006, 09:22 PM	#2
perfect 10 zq8sdime Age: 24 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 795 Location: Virginia beach User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? What i have done to mine so far is take a wire brush wheel that you use with a drill and attack it with that..works very well and some spots that are worse i use my orbital sander. Once clean i hit it with eastwood pre cleaner then eastwood rust encapsulator and finally a coat of eastwood extreme chassis black. So far it has turned out great and looks really smooth. The eastwood chassis black is pretty much like por-15 and works great!
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07-16-2006, 11:13 PM	#3
97s10chevy Ruff Ryder Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 644 Location: Joplin, Missouri User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? what do u use to get the inside of the frame? I am using a wire brush and angle grider for the inside but can't get it in between the frame.
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07-17-2006, 08:41 AM	#4
perfect 10 zq8sdime Age: 24 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 795 Location: Virginia beach User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? I got a real small wire wheel like a 2" i think it is and i have a flex shaft for my drill, this has worked well for the tuff to reach spots.
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07-17-2006, 11:04 AM	#5
NickZigaitis I Like Fire....HaHaHa Age: 79 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,868 Location: God Damn Garage, STL User is: Online	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? Quote: Originally Posted by 97s10chevy what do u use to get the inside of the frame? I am using a wire brush and angle grider for the inside but can't get it in between the frame. I have just completed the frame and painted it. I also used Eastwoods Extreme Chassis Hi-Gloss Black paint. To clean the frame I used a wire brush and brake cleaner. But first i would use a putty knife to scrap a lot of that rubbery tar shit off the frame. Then brake clean and wipe as much off with a rag, then I would wire brush it. For the inside of the frame, i did the same thing. A little trick I found was to take a small propane torch and heat the frame to melt that rubbery shit. Then I would shoot brake cleaner on it and blow that shit out of there. PLease where a mask when doing this. Singed brake cleaner creates a powerful vapor. Then I primed and painted it. It took 1 quart of Eastwood's chassis primer but it took 3 quarts almost to lay down a good, heavy and even coat of the top coat. Here were the results. Before Clean After
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07-17-2006, 01:09 PM	#6
97s10chevy Ruff Ryder Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 644 Location: Joplin, Missouri User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? mine gets nowhere near that clean with just the wire wheel, but then again my frame was a bout 10 times rustier than urs to begin with
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07-17-2006, 02:02 PM	#7
NickZigaitis I Like Fire....HaHaHa Age: 79 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,868 Location: God Damn Garage, STL User is: Online	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? Quote: Originally Posted by 97s10chevy mine gets nowhere near that clean with just the wire wheel, but then again my frame was a bout 10 times rustier than urs to begin with Brake cleaner helps. A flap disc also helps. Here is my axle. It was crazy f-ing rusty. Then I degreased it and spent a couple hours flap disc sanding it and then shot several coats of slick sand and then primed and painted it. Your rusty frame can look just as good. Just takes twice as long. Tray a flap disc on your frame. I spent about 2, almost 3 weeks cleaning the frame before I even start the fab work. Rusty Shit Rusty shit grinded off Slick Sand high build primer. Seals rust and levels the surface. Eastwoods Chassis Primer Eastwoods Hi-Gloss Extreme Chassis
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07-17-2006, 04:04 PM	#8
quickline23 how low can you go Age: 25 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,745 Location: pa User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? thats looks awesome i am in the process of cleaning my frame up as we speak now to. its getting there just a taking some time to get the rust off
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07-17-2006, 04:34 PM	#9
NickZigaitis I Like Fire....HaHaHa Age: 79 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,868 Location: God Damn Garage, STL User is: Online	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? Don't get discourage about how long it takes. Stay detail oriented and get ever nook and cranny. I shot the frame with 1quart of primer and 3 quarts of gloss. Keep that in mind. I originally shot the 1 quart of primer and the 1 quart of gloss. The primer went on good but the gloss coat was too thin and 1 quart for the whole frame is really stretching it. I blasted the frame with a syphon feed gun 1.6 tip tuned to limit the flow as much as possible. I ended up ordering 2 more quarts. Keep that in mind.
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07-17-2006, 04:47 PM	#10
97s10chevy Ruff Ryder Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 644 Location: Joplin, Missouri User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? how does naval jelly work? Does it do anything?
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07-20-2006, 12:13 AM	#11
bagged85 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,660 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? that looks mint, i was lazy and just knocked the rust off with a hammer n wire brushed briefly by hand then sprayed bed liner on it lol ( it show but looks better)
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07-31-2006, 12:40 AM	#12
comics22 Pac is a hackin! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,124 Location: Middle of freakin IL User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? lol i was thinkin the same but usin like rustoleum and paintin that on...
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08-02-2006, 04:57 PM	#13
DfntPntbll Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,062 Location: St. Auggie Dog, Florida User is: OffLine	Re: cleaning/ prepping fram for paint? Quote: Originally Posted by NickZigaitis Don't get discourage about how long it takes. Stay detail oriented and get ever nook and cranny. I shot the frame with 1quart of primer and 3 quarts of gloss. Keep that in mind. I originally shot the 1 quart of primer and the 1 quart of gloss. The primer went on good but the gloss coat was too thin and 1 quart for the whole frame is really stretching it. I blasted the frame with a syphon feed gun 1.6 tip tuned to limit the flow as much as possible. I ended up ordering 2 more quarts. Keep that in mind. I hate you,.. you and your money,..... and your time,... j/k man. I have followed your thread and it is looking totally nuts. wish I had the time, money, skill,... aw hell,.. I wish I was you.
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