Buffers

wagonproject · 03-11-2006, 11:24 PM

Well I am selling my car and would like to try my hand at buffing it. Where can I get a nice, but not real expensive buffer that is easy to use for the beginner. Also I've never really waxed or buffed or anything for that matter, just washed cars, so any tips or step by steps are welcome. Also what all I need. Thank you guys.

TnHombre · 03-12-2006, 05:42 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

Where can I get a nice, but not real expensive buffer that is easy to use for the beginner.

shouldnt be in the same sentence...

expect to pay $150.oo for anythings thats worth a damn....

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

Also I've never really waxed or buffed or anything for that matter, just washed cars, so any tips or step by steps are welcome. Also what all I need. Thank you guys.

IF your REALLY interested in some helpfull tips email me at :
931carwash@gmail.com

Red X · 03-15-2006, 10:45 AM

My advise if you use a high powered buffer, with the yellowish liquid wax, be very careful, cuz if you press to hard you can buff your paint down to the metal. I suggest you go and buy some wax you can wipe on, and wipe off. Or a very low powerd buffer, whivch you buy cloth covers to go over the actual buffing part. That wont sctarch your paint. Like this one-http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif

TnHombre · 03-15-2006, 07:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Red X

My advise if you use a high powered buffer, with the yellowish liquid wax, be very careful, cuz if you press to hard you can buff your paint down to the metal. I suggest you go and buy some wax you can wipe on, and wipe off. Or a very low powerd buffer, whivch you buy cloth covers to go over the actual buffing part. That wont sctarch your paint. Like this one- http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif
http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif

lol...

...thats NOT a buffer , thats an orbital.
http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif

and you should NEVER "press" on the "buffer".

and what is this yellow wax your refering to? theres like a million "yellow ones"

oh and by the way....that link to that pic....the item in that pic can NEVER harm paint no matter what you do with it.....
you can press down on it as hard as you want and even let it sit in the same spot for hours and that machine will NOT harm any type of paint FYI.

5918MIKE · 03-15-2006, 07:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TnHombre

lol... ...thats NOT a buffer , thats an orbital.
http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif

and you should NEVER "press" on the "buffer".

and what is this yellow wax your refering to? theres like a million "yellow ones"

oh and by the way....that link to that pic....the item in that pic can NEVER harm paint no matter what you do with it.....
you can press down on it as hard as you want and even let it sit in the same spot for hours and that machine will NOT harm any type of paint FYI.

Maybe if I hurled that POS into the side of your door, but then that wouldn't buff out either, LOL!

GriMSysTeM · 03-15-2006, 08:01 PM

Go to home depot and buy a dewalt buffer and pick up 3M perfect series buffing system. reccommend 1400 speed on the buffer.

TnHombre · 03-15-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE

Maybe if I hurled that POS into the side of your door, but then that wouldn't buff out either, LOL!

ya you got me there THAT is the only way to harm paint with that machine!!

the buffer i have that resembles that one is an 18 pounder made out of cast iron lol thatll almost go threw the door!!!

Quote: Originally Posted by GriMSysTeM

Go to home depot and buy a dewalt buffer and pick up 3M perfect series buffing system. reccommend 1400 speed on the buffer.

now where talking........ i own this machine and have now for bout 5 years and use it commercially and not one problem.
bout $200 .

i do believe this is what he was referring to by starting this thread

indigo s10 · 03-15-2006, 10:00 PM

If you want inexpensive, go to sears and buy a Craftsman orbital buffer. I have had the same one for 7 years, and it does the trick for me. I use it about twice a month(once on the truck, once on the car)

TnHombre · 03-16-2006, 01:26 AM

i dont think he's mrefering to an orbital buffer....he's refering to a high speed buffer.....i dunno....he dissapeared...lol

Killer Miked · 03-16-2006, 01:30 AM

i have a makita, i put a grinding disk on that bitch and cut the fock outta car

wagonproject · 03-17-2006, 01:27 AM

Thanks guys, just looking for something that the beginner can use and not **** up the paint. Something around $150-200 isnt bad, just didn't want to spend like 300 and up.

s10cyncrvr · 03-17-2006, 10:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

Thanks guys, just looking for something that the beginner can use and not **** up the paint. Something around $150-200 isnt bad, just didn't want to spend like 300 and up.

I use a porter cable 7424 oribital with a foam pad. They're under $150 after pads and all. Produces very nice results. They don't build up heat so you have to use polishes that don't require heat. I use this for about 95% of the polishing and waxing on my trucks. If your paint is in really bad shape, then go with a rotary mentioned above.

dropped1 · 03-18-2006, 09:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr

I use a porter cable 7424 oribital with a foam pad. They're under $150 after pads and all. Produces very nice results. They don't build up heat so you have to use polishes that don't require heat. I use this for about 95% of the polishing and waxing on my trucks. If your paint is in really bad shape, then go with a rotary mentioned above.

right on!

jds_truck · 03-19-2006, 01:52 PM

just get done at body shop cause u will end up with mad swirls first time

TnHombre · 03-20-2006, 07:42 PM

i dont think he cares about swirls...he is selling the car... he said he wants to learn HOW to do it......

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

Well I am selling my car and would like to try my hand at buffing it.

ke989 · 03-21-2006, 04:11 AM

I work at a Cadillac factory and we use a DA with a foam waffle pad with 3M Finnese It! polish. It will polish out 2000 grit sand marks to a mirror shine and leaves no swirls or haze.

bg's · 03-21-2006, 10:23 AM

One of the very best made. Sorry going off topic, but if you're going to
do buffing all the time..Cyclo is the machine. >
http://www.topoftheline.com/cyclo-polisher.html

dropped1 · 03-21-2006, 01:32 PM

THe problem with rotarys is the trouble with holograms and trails.

Cyclo's are awesome, but for someone who isn't an avid detailer a pc 7424 will be perfect.

bg's · 03-21-2006, 05:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dropped1

THe problem with rotarys is the trouble with holograms and trails.

Cyclo's are awesome, but for someone who isn't an avid detailer a pc 7424 will be perfect.

It's only money, Brother..

redSStreak · 03-26-2006, 07:07 PM

i use a blue point buffer its one of the smoothest runing buffers i have ever owned its like 250 off a snap on truck

LikeaRock · 03-26-2006, 08:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dropped1

THe problem with rotarys is the trouble with holograms and trails.

Cyclo's are awesome, but for someone who isn't an avid detailer a pc 7424 will be perfect.

That's only if you don't now what you're doing, or if you DO know what you're doing and don't use the right pad/product for swirl removal.
I don't care who you are or how long you've been buffing, you WILL leave swirls when you're polishing to remove minor defects or using a heavy compound to cut out scratches. If you use a soft pad with a swirl remover polish you won't find a single swirl on your paint

TnHombre · 03-27-2006, 08:11 PM

^^^^ he's correct.

03-11-2006, 11:24 PM	#1
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	Buffers Well I am selling my car and would like to try my hand at buffing it. Where can I get a nice, but not real expensive buffer that is easy to use for the beginner. Also I've never really waxed or buffed or anything for that matter, just washed cars, so any tips or step by steps are welcome. Also what all I need. Thank you guys.
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03-12-2006, 05:42 AM	#2
TnHombre UNBANNED BITCHES!! Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,007 Location: fayetteville, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject Where can I get a nice, but not real expensive buffer that is easy to use for the beginner. shouldnt be in the same sentence... expect to pay $150.oo for anythings thats worth a damn.... Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject Also I've never really waxed or buffed or anything for that matter, just washed cars, so any tips or step by steps are welcome. Also what all I need. Thank you guys. IF your REALLY interested in some helpfull tips email me at : 931carwash@gmail.com
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03-15-2006, 10:45 AM	#3
Red X XtremelyLow Age: 21 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 788 Location: Owensboro, Ky User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers My advise if you use a high powered buffer, with the yellowish liquid wax, be very careful, cuz if you press to hard you can buff your paint down to the metal. I suggest you go and buy some wax you can wipe on, and wipe off. Or a very low powerd buffer, whivch you buy cloth covers to go over the actual buffing part. That wont sctarch your paint. Like this one-http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif Last edited by Red X : 03-15-2006 at 10:47 AM.
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03-15-2006, 07:32 PM	#4
TnHombre UNBANNED BITCHES!! Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,007 Location: fayetteville, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Quote: Originally Posted by Red X My advise if you use a high powered buffer, with the yellowish liquid wax, be very careful, cuz if you press to hard you can buff your paint down to the metal. I suggest you go and buy some wax you can wipe on, and wipe off. Or a very low powerd buffer, whivch you buy cloth covers to go over the actual buffing part. That wont sctarch your paint. Like this one- http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif lol... ...thats NOT a buffer , thats an orbital. http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif and you should NEVER "press" on the "buffer". and what is this yellow wax your refering to? theres like a million "yellow ones" oh and by the way....that link to that pic....the item in that pic can NEVER harm paint no matter what you do with it..... you can press down on it as hard as you want and even let it sit in the same spot for hours and that machine will NOT harm any type of paint FYI. Last edited by TnHombre : 03-15-2006 at 07:34 PM.
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03-15-2006, 07:53 PM	#5
5918MIKE Registered User Age: 37 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 459 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Quote: Originally Posted by TnHombre lol... ...thats NOT a buffer , thats an orbital. http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...CLZZZZZZZ_.gif and you should NEVER "press" on the "buffer". and what is this yellow wax your refering to? theres like a million "yellow ones" oh and by the way....that link to that pic....the item in that pic can NEVER harm paint no matter what you do with it..... you can press down on it as hard as you want and even let it sit in the same spot for hours and that machine will NOT harm any type of paint FYI. Maybe if I hurled that POS into the side of your door, but then that wouldn't buff out either, LOL!
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03-15-2006, 08:01 PM	#6
GriMSysTeM Dey took rrr jobs!! Age: 25 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,338 Location: Collierville, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Go to home depot and buy a dewalt buffer and pick up 3M perfect series buffing system. reccommend 1400 speed on the buffer.
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03-15-2006, 08:49 PM	#7
TnHombre UNBANNED BITCHES!! Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,007 Location: fayetteville, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE Maybe if I hurled that POS into the side of your door, but then that wouldn't buff out either, LOL! ya you got me there THAT is the only way to harm paint with that machine!! the buffer i have that resembles that one is an 18 pounder made out of cast iron lol thatll almost go threw the door!!! Quote: Originally Posted by GriMSysTeM Go to home depot and buy a dewalt buffer and pick up 3M perfect series buffing system. reccommend 1400 speed on the buffer. now where talking........ i own this machine and have now for bout 5 years and use it commercially and not one problem. bout $200 . i do believe this is what he was referring to by starting this thread Last edited by TnHombre : 03-15-2006 at 08:50 PM.
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03-15-2006, 10:00 PM	#8
indigo s10 Mmmm Tire smoke. Age: 31 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,195 Location: southern illinois User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers If you want inexpensive, go to sears and buy a Craftsman orbital buffer. I have had the same one for 7 years, and it does the trick for me. I use it about twice a month(once on the truck, once on the car)
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03-16-2006, 01:26 AM	#9
TnHombre UNBANNED BITCHES!! Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,007 Location: fayetteville, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers i dont think he's mrefering to an orbital buffer....he's refering to a high speed buffer.....i dunno....he dissapeared...lol
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03-16-2006, 01:30 AM	#10
Killer Miked LethalFabrication.com Age: 24 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448 Location: Tampa, FL User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers i have a makita, i put a grinding disk on that bitch and cut the fock outta car
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03-17-2006, 01:27 AM	#11
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Thanks guys, just looking for something that the beginner can use and not **** up the paint. Something around $150-200 isnt bad, just didn't want to spend like 300 and up.
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03-17-2006, 10:39 AM	#12
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 29 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,852 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject Thanks guys, just looking for something that the beginner can use and not *** up the paint. Something around $150-200 isnt bad, just didn't want to spend like 300 and up.* I use a porter cable 7424 oribital with a foam pad. They're under $150 after pads and all. Produces very nice results. They don't build up heat so you have to use polishes that don't require heat. I use this for about 95% of the polishing and waxing on my trucks. If your paint is in really bad shape, then go with a rotary mentioned above.
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03-18-2006, 09:48 PM	#13
dropped1 bagged1 Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,214 Location: Yokosuka, Japan User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr I use a porter cable 7424 oribital with a foam pad. They're under $150 after pads and all. Produces very nice results. They don't build up heat so you have to use polishes that don't require heat. I use this for about 95% of the polishing and waxing on my trucks. If your paint is in really bad shape, then go with a rotary mentioned above. right on!
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03-19-2006, 01:52 PM	#14
jds_truck Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,644 Location: ottawa ontario canada User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers just get done at body shop cause u will end up with mad swirls first time
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03-20-2006, 07:42 PM	#15
TnHombre UNBANNED BITCHES!! Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,007 Location: fayetteville, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers i dont think he cares about swirls...he is selling the car... he said he wants to learn HOW to do it...... Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject Well I am selling my car and would like to try my hand at buffing it.
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03-21-2006, 04:11 AM	#16
ke989 Registered User Age: 37 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 63 Location: Lansing, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers I work at a Cadillac factory and we use a DA with a foam waffle pad with 3M Finnese It! polish. It will polish out 2000 grit sand marks to a mirror shine and leaves no swirls or haze.
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03-21-2006, 10:23 AM	#17
bg's crap Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,097 Location: Who cares.. User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers One of the very best made. Sorry going off topic, but if you're going to do buffing all the time..Cyclo is the machine. > http://www.topoftheline.com/cyclo-polisher.html
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03-21-2006, 01:32 PM	#18
dropped1 bagged1 Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,214 Location: Yokosuka, Japan User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers THe problem with rotarys is the trouble with holograms and trails. Cyclo's are awesome, but for someone who isn't an avid detailer a pc 7424 will be perfect.
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03-21-2006, 05:36 PM	#19
bg's crap Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,097 Location: Who cares.. User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Quote: Originally Posted by dropped1 THe problem with rotarys is the trouble with holograms and trails. Cyclo's are awesome, but for someone who isn't an avid detailer a pc 7424 will be perfect. It's only money, Brother..
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03-26-2006, 07:07 PM	#20
redSStreak fog it! Age: 27 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 487 Location: north carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers i use a blue point buffer its one of the smoothest runing buffers i have ever owned its like 250 off a snap on truck
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03-26-2006, 08:31 PM	#21
LikeaRock Rustbucket Club Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 772 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers Quote: Originally Posted by dropped1 THe problem with rotarys is the trouble with holograms and trails. Cyclo's are awesome, but for someone who isn't an avid detailer a pc 7424 will be perfect. That's only if you don't now what you're doing, or if you DO know what you're doing and don't use the right pad/product for swirl removal. I don't care who you are or how long you've been buffing, you WILL leave swirls when you're polishing to remove minor defects or using a heavy compound to cut out scratches. If you use a soft pad with a swirl remover polish you won't find a single swirl on your paint
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03-27-2006, 08:11 PM	#22
TnHombre UNBANNED BITCHES!! Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,007 Location: fayetteville, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Buffers ^^^^ he's correct.
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