Best Wax to protect paint

Extreme_Shadow · 04-23-2004, 02:59 AM

I have been reading alot about the different types of wax's and whats on the market and frankly i am very impress in what Zaino has to offer what i am really looking for is a heavy wax to protect the paint something that will hold up to small pebbles rain and everything eles that is getting throw at our trucks. I have not seen anyone taking about one so anyone who has any ideas about a good wax that provides look lasting protection be great thanx.

Spayer88 · 04-23-2004, 03:10 AM

not to be rude and crush ur idea but a heavy tough wax is not a good solution because it does not allow the paint to breathe for example it is worse to have a car parked in a garage all the time (ex. put away for periods of time) than it is to be outside. Basically it screws up the chemical bonding in paint that alows the clear coat to do its job the clear coat should be allowed to do its job so the paint should never have more than 2-3 coats of wax any more only harms does not help. If there is more coats than that it should be removed with grease and wax remover or be clay barred off. Hope I helped a little. Oh a excellent polish like zymol is great for polish and meguires or rain-x wax is awsome just dont over do it uv rays is what helps the chemical process. I once was a great believer in big waxing until I pursued a career in body work and talked to ppg and sherman williams corprate reps along with head honchos in the company and they all say the same thing.

Quote: Originally Posted by Extreme_Shadow

I have been reading alot about the different types of wax's and whats on the market and frankly i am very impress in what Zaino has to offer what i am really looking for is a heavy wax to protect the paint something that will hold up to small pebbles rain and everything eles that is getting throw at our trucks. I have not seen anyone taking about one so anyone who has any ideas about a good wax that provides look lasting protection be great thanx.

Rhotpursuit · 04-23-2004, 10:11 AM

[ for example it is worse to have a car parked in a garage all the time (ex. put away for periods of time) than it is to be outside. [/quote]

Am I missing something here??? Are you saying that it's better to subject your vehicle to the elements, bird crap, acid rain and any number or airborne contaminates than park it in the garage?? My truck is always in the garage unless it's in use and it looks pretty damn nice..even if I do say so myself...

Spayer88 · 04-23-2004, 12:54 PM

You misread I talk to those who leave there vehicles in the garage for long periods of time then take it back to that because it does not allow for it to get the uv it needs to cure correctly same as wax which is the reason for easy chipping etc... you also misread the part i did not say that wax is bad too much of it is bad do not think adding 3-5 coats is helping it is hurting it only slows the curing process which leavs it succeptible.

Quote: Originally Posted by Rhotpursuit

[ for example it is worse to have a car parked in a garage all the time (ex. put away for periods of time) than it is to be outside.

Am I missing something here??? Are you saying that it's better to subject your vehicle to the elements, bird crap, acid rain and any number or airborne contaminates than park it in the garage?? My truck is always in the garage unless it's in use and it looks pretty damn nice..even if I do say so myself...

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burn122 · 04-24-2004, 11:13 AM

So how long does it take the paint to cure? Once it has cured then can you leave it in the garage?

This is what I used on my truck, http://www.5starshine.com/ I think it looks better than when I picked it up from the dealer.

***Hucko*** · 04-24-2004, 11:16 AM

Nanowax is supoosed to be the shit, but i haveno tired it yet.

suprax · 05-29-2004, 04:09 PM

Nanowax is pretty good but it definitely dosen't last long. I used it and about 3-4 weeks later it dosen't even feel like I ever waxed at all. Granted that we got some rain during those weeks but rain shouldn't be able to take off the wax this bad!

Anyone used the NXT generation wax yet? 15 bucks!

Rhotpursuit · 05-29-2004, 05:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by suprax

Nanowax is pretty good but it definitely dosen't last long. I used it and about 3-4 weeks later it dosen't even feel like I ever waxed at all. Granted that we got some rain during those weeks but rain shouldn't be able to take off the wax this bad!

Anyone used the NXT generation wax yet? 15 bucks!

I've tried it on a quarter paneland it works great..didn't have time to do the whole truck.

03 SS · 05-29-2004, 10:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Spayer88

not to be rude and crush ur idea but a heavy tough wax is not a good solution because it does not allow the paint to breathe for example it is worse to have a car parked in a garage all the time (ex. put away for periods of time) than it is to be outside. Basically it screws up the chemical bonding in paint that alows the clear coat to do its job the clear coat should be allowed to do its job so the paint should never have more than 2-3 coats of wax any more only harms does not help. If there is more coats than that it should be removed with grease and wax remover or be clay barred off. Hope I helped a little. Oh a excellent polish like zymol is great for polish and meguires or rain-x wax is awsome just dont over do it uv rays is what helps the chemical process. I once was a great believer in big waxing until I pursued a career in body work and talked to ppg and sherman williams corprate reps along with head honchos in the company and they all say the same thing.

That has got to be the dumbest thing I have heard. Waxes do not keep it from breathing, but they do protect it from oxidation. Lets see, my brother restores cars, paints them himself, etc. His 72 Buick has been painted around 14 years now & sits in the garage. HMMMM, still looks brand new. That is what my buddy thought about waxing on his mint 86 vette pace car convertible. He had it since new. Funny, but the clearcoat started peeling off. Needless to say he listened to me now with his new vette convertible.

Anyway for theguy looking for good protection, try the new Turtle wax Ultra Gloss. It has a nice thick layer of protection.

Derek · 05-30-2004, 02:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by suprax

Nanowax is pretty good but it definitely dosen't last long. I used it and about 3-4 weeks later it dosen't even feel like I ever waxed at all. Granted that we got some rain during those weeks but rain shouldn't be able to take off the wax this bad!

Anyone used the NXT generation wax yet? 15 bucks!

I used the nxt. it worked pretty good, but i still think meguiar's high tech yellow wax #26 is the best i have used. I just bought some of Meguiar's #16 paste wax. it is specifically designed for dark vehicles. i will let you know how it lasts when i get the chance to use it. i just tore a bunch of ligaments in my ankle so it will be a while. Has anyone tried the Pinnacle Souveran Pate wax? It is like $60 for an 8 oz. can? Here is the web site where you can find it.

http://www.premiumautocare.com/pisopawax.html

daily runner · 05-31-2004, 10:57 AM

I just waxed both my Sonoma and my S10 with the NXT. Goes on easy and comes off Very easy. Quite user friendly. Gives a nice deep shine. I'm waiting to see if it outlasts the Gold Class though (as the bottle states).

suprax · 05-31-2004, 11:42 AM

Cool, post in a few weeks and let us know if its holding up. Thanks!

s10johnny · 05-31-2004, 07:52 PM

ill agree i am a zanio user and it is by far the best out there in my opinon and i have tried almost every thing out there

if u have tried all the rest now try the best zanio

jimmything08 · 05-31-2004, 08:22 PM

I have the gold class and I must say it is quite nice... It rained the day after I waxed it and the rain just beeded off.... It was really nice..

Check out this Windshield Wax. I got it from wal Mart. The stuff is great, does the same thing the Gold Class Wax does, but on your windshield and mirrors and windows.. Its nice!

suprax · 05-31-2004, 08:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jimmything08

I have the gold class and I must say it is quite nice... It rained the day after I waxed it and the rain just beeded off.... It was really nice..

Well that happens with pretty much every way. Rain will bead off of it after you wax it. The key is a wax that will last and be effective for a long period of time. When I used nanowax within weeks it dosen't even feel like I have wax on my truck at all. Poor lasting in my opinion.

jimmything08 · 05-31-2004, 08:29 PM

Oh lol..> Well I waxed my truck for the first time ever the other day and I was like WOW... This is nice lol.. And so far it is holding up. Nice shine and everything.

dysilluzioned · 06-01-2004, 01:39 AM

I'm kind of in the middle between Meguiars Gold Class and Nanowax...I used Nano for the first time this weekend and it worked really well. Considering they're the same price, I'd say go with Nano because you get a free microfiber with it.

SLAMnoma95 · 06-02-2004, 01:16 AM

i hate Meguiars...i got a big kit of it all for Xmas and i hate it...goes on and off easy but doenst do shit...doesnt even really look clean...atleast for me it didnt, but the Nanowax i thought was GREAT!

bigbaddime · 06-02-2004, 01:29 AM

[quote=Derek]I used the nxt. it worked pretty good, but i still think meguiar's high tech yellow wax #26 is the best i have used. I just bought some of Meguiar's #16 paste wax. it is specifically designed for dark vehicles. i will let you know how it lasts when i get the chance to use it. i just tore a bunch of ligaments in my ankle so it will be a while. Has anyone tried the Pinnacle Souveran Pate wax? It is like $60 for an 8 oz. can? Here is the web site where you can find it.

http://www.premiumautocare.com/pisopawax.html[/QUOTE]

my dad used it on his chevelle its a awsome wax but too damn pricey for me. I like Turtle wax Ultra Gloss and it lasts for awhile too

BATMAN · 06-05-2004, 07:19 PM

http://www.illstreet.com/gallery/batman?&page=2

not a s10, but with 230k miles and zaino it looks good.

peterr22 · 06-05-2004, 11:16 PM

I use ardex, its great stuff.

Proper1 · 07-03-2004, 11:53 PM

Try Zymol Wax...It comes in a clear plastic bottle and the wax is blue. It's a little costly but It is one of the best I have used so far.

04-23-2004, 02:59 AM	#1
Extreme_Shadow always bored Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 531 Location: Jersey User is: OffLine	Best Wax to protect paint I have been reading alot about the different types of wax's and whats on the market and frankly i am very impress in what Zaino has to offer what i am really looking for is a heavy wax to protect the paint something that will hold up to small pebbles rain and everything eles that is getting throw at our trucks. I have not seen anyone taking about one so anyone who has any ideas about a good wax that provides look lasting protection be great thanx.
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04-23-2004, 03:10 AM	#2
Spayer88 Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 169 Location: Utica, Il User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint not to be rude and crush ur idea but a heavy tough wax is not a good solution because it does not allow the paint to breathe for example it is worse to have a car parked in a garage all the time (ex. put away for periods of time) than it is to be outside. Basically it screws up the chemical bonding in paint that alows the clear coat to do its job the clear coat should be allowed to do its job so the paint should never have more than 2-3 coats of wax any more only harms does not help. If there is more coats than that it should be removed with grease and wax remover or be clay barred off. Hope I helped a little. Oh a excellent polish like zymol is great for polish and meguires or rain-x wax is awsome just dont over do it uv rays is what helps the chemical process. I once was a great believer in big waxing until I pursued a career in body work and talked to ppg and sherman williams corprate reps along with head honchos in the company and they all say the same thing. Quote: Originally Posted by Extreme_Shadow I have been reading alot about the different types of wax's and whats on the market and frankly i am very impress in what Zaino has to offer what i am really looking for is a heavy wax to protect the paint something that will hold up to small pebbles rain and everything eles that is getting throw at our trucks. I have not seen anyone taking about one so anyone who has any ideas about a good wax that provides look lasting protection be great thanx.
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04-23-2004, 10:11 AM	#3
Rhotpursuit Ticket Magnet Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,285 Location: Spanaway, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint [ for example it is worse to have a car parked in a garage all the time (ex. put away for periods of time) than it is to be outside. [/quote] Am I missing something here??? Are you saying that it's better to subject your vehicle to the elements, bird crap, acid rain and any number or airborne contaminates than park it in the garage?? My truck is always in the garage unless it's in use and it looks pretty damn nice..even if I do say so myself...
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04-23-2004, 12:54 PM	#4
Spayer88 Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 169 Location: Utica, Il User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint You misread I talk to those who leave there vehicles in the garage for long periods of time then take it back to that because it does not allow for it to get the uv it needs to cure correctly same as wax which is the reason for easy chipping etc... you also misread the part i did not say that wax is bad too much of it is bad do not think adding 3-5 coats is helping it is hurting it only slows the curing process which leavs it succeptible. Quote: Originally Posted by Rhotpursuit [ for example it is worse to have a car parked in a garage all the time (ex. put away for periods of time) than it is to be outside. Am I missing something here??? Are you saying that it's better to subject your vehicle to the elements, bird crap, acid rain and any number or airborne contaminates than park it in the garage?? My truck is always in the garage unless it's in use and it looks pretty damn nice..even if I do say so myself... [/quote]
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04-24-2004, 11:13 AM	#5
burn122 Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 43 Location: Clarksville TN User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint So how long does it take the paint to cure? Once it has cured then can you leave it in the garage? This is what I used on my truck, http://www.5starshine.com/ I think it looks better than when I picked it up from the dealer.
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05-29-2004, 04:09 PM	#7
suprax so fresh so clean Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 573 Location: Rochester, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint Nanowax is pretty good but it definitely dosen't last long. I used it and about 3-4 weeks later it dosen't even feel like I ever waxed at all. Granted that we got some rain during those weeks but rain shouldn't be able to take off the wax this bad! Anyone used the NXT generation wax yet? 15 bucks!
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05-29-2004, 05:54 PM	#8
Rhotpursuit Ticket Magnet Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,285 Location: Spanaway, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint Quote: Originally Posted by suprax Nanowax is pretty good but it definitely dosen't last long. I used it and about 3-4 weeks later it dosen't even feel like I ever waxed at all. Granted that we got some rain during those weeks but rain shouldn't be able to take off the wax this bad! Anyone used the NXT generation wax yet? 15 bucks! I've tried it on a quarter paneland it works great..didn't have time to do the whole truck.
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05-29-2004, 10:24 PM	#9
03 SS Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,380 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint Quote: Originally Posted by Spayer88 not to be rude and crush ur idea but a heavy tough wax is not a good solution because it does not allow the paint to breathe for example it is worse to have a car parked in a garage all the time (ex. put away for periods of time) than it is to be outside. Basically it screws up the chemical bonding in paint that alows the clear coat to do its job the clear coat should be allowed to do its job so the paint should never have more than 2-3 coats of wax any more only harms does not help. If there is more coats than that it should be removed with grease and wax remover or be clay barred off. Hope I helped a little. Oh a excellent polish like zymol is great for polish and meguires or rain-x wax is awsome just dont over do it uv rays is what helps the chemical process. I once was a great believer in big waxing until I pursued a career in body work and talked to ppg and sherman williams corprate reps along with head honchos in the company and they all say the same thing. That has got to be the dumbest thing I have heard. Waxes do not keep it from breathing, but they do protect it from oxidation. Lets see, my brother restores cars, paints them himself, etc. His 72 Buick has been painted around 14 years now & sits in the garage. HMMMM, still looks brand new. That is what my buddy thought about waxing on his mint 86 vette pace car convertible. He had it since new. Funny, but the clearcoat started peeling off. Needless to say he listened to me now with his new vette convertible. Anyway for theguy looking for good protection, try the new Turtle wax Ultra Gloss. It has a nice thick layer of protection.
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05-30-2004, 02:41 AM	#10
Derek Beginner's Luck Age: 29 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: KY User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint Quote: Originally Posted by suprax Nanowax is pretty good but it definitely dosen't last long. I used it and about 3-4 weeks later it dosen't even feel like I ever waxed at all. Granted that we got some rain during those weeks but rain shouldn't be able to take off the wax this bad! Anyone used the NXT generation wax yet? 15 bucks! I used the nxt. it worked pretty good, but i still think meguiar's high tech yellow wax #26 is the best i have used. I just bought some of Meguiar's #16 paste wax. it is specifically designed for dark vehicles. i will let you know how it lasts when i get the chance to use it. i just tore a bunch of ligaments in my ankle so it will be a while. Has anyone tried the Pinnacle Souveran Pate wax? It is like $60 for an 8 oz. can? Here is the web site where you can find it. http://www.premiumautocare.com/pisopawax.html
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05-31-2004, 10:57 AM	#11
daily runner Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 107 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint I just waxed both my Sonoma and my S10 with the NXT. Goes on easy and comes off Very easy. Quite user friendly. Gives a nice deep shine. I'm waiting to see if it outlasts the Gold Class though (as the bottle states).
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05-31-2004, 11:42 AM	#12
suprax so fresh so clean Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 573 Location: Rochester, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint Cool, post in a few weeks and let us know if its holding up. Thanks!
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05-31-2004, 07:52 PM	#13
s10johnny CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 26 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint ill agree i am a zanio user and it is by far the best out there in my opinon and i have tried almost every thing out there if u have tried all the rest now try the best zanio
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05-31-2004, 08:22 PM	#14
jimmything08 No S-Series... Just a GTO Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 11,222 Location: SW OHIO User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint I have the gold class and I must say it is quite nice... It rained the day after I waxed it and the rain just beeded off.... It was really nice.. Check out this Windshield Wax. I got it from wal Mart. The stuff is great, does the same thing the Gold Class Wax does, but on your windshield and mirrors and windows.. Its nice!
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05-31-2004, 08:28 PM	#15
suprax so fresh so clean Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 573 Location: Rochester, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint Quote: Originally Posted by jimmything08 I have the gold class and I must say it is quite nice... It rained the day after I waxed it and the rain just beeded off.... It was really nice.. Well that happens with pretty much every way. Rain will bead off of it after you wax it. The key is a wax that will last and be effective for a long period of time. When I used nanowax within weeks it dosen't even feel like I have wax on my truck at all. Poor lasting in my opinion.
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05-31-2004, 08:29 PM	#16
jimmything08 No S-Series... Just a GTO Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 11,222 Location: SW OHIO User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint Oh lol..> Well I waxed my truck for the first time ever the other day and I was like WOW... This is nice lol.. And so far it is holding up. Nice shine and everything.
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06-01-2004, 01:39 AM	#17
dysilluzioned LayZ Age: 27 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 97 Location: So. Cali User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint I'm kind of in the middle between Meguiars Gold Class and Nanowax...I used Nano for the first time this weekend and it worked really well. Considering they're the same price, I'd say go with Nano because you get a free microfiber with it.
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06-02-2004, 01:16 AM	#18
SLAMnoma95 SK= Midwest's Elite Age: 22 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,907 Location: Detroit User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint i hate Meguiars...i got a big kit of it all for Xmas and i hate it...goes on and off easy but doenst do shit...doesnt even really look clean...atleast for me it didnt, but the Nanowax i thought was GREAT!
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06-02-2004, 01:29 AM	#19
bigbaddime Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 63 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint [quote=Derek]I used the nxt. it worked pretty good, but i still think meguiar's high tech yellow wax #26 is the best i have used. I just bought some of Meguiar's #16 paste wax. it is specifically designed for dark vehicles. i will let you know how it lasts when i get the chance to use it. i just tore a bunch of ligaments in my ankle so it will be a while. Has anyone tried the Pinnacle Souveran Pate wax? It is like $60 for an 8 oz. can? Here is the web site where you can find it. http://www.premiumautocare.com/pisopawax.html[/QUOTE] my dad used it on his chevelle its a awsome wax but too damn pricey for me. I like Turtle wax Ultra Gloss and it lasts for awhile too
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06-05-2004, 07:19 PM	#20
BATMAN Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 218 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint http://www.illstreet.com/gallery/batman?&page=2 not a s10, but with 230k miles and zaino it looks good.
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06-05-2004, 11:16 PM	#21
peterr22 Me Age: 25 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 24 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint I use ardex, its great stuff.
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07-03-2004, 11:53 PM	#22
Proper1 Bayarea kid Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 155 Location: Antioch, California User is: OffLine	Re: Best Wax to protect paint Try Zymol Wax...It comes in a clear plastic bottle and the wax is blue. It's a little costly but It is one of the best I have used so far.
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