A Good Wax?

[Sleeper S10]

Just wondering what name wax you may suggest?
I've been told to use "3M Performance Finish wax".

Then a friend who owns a body shop says he never waxes his car and uses only "Turtlewax Soap" which is good enough. (???)

Just would like to hear a few suggestions on your preferred wax.

Thanks

[mikeeuro]

I prefer Meguiar's next generation wax, it's supposed to bond with the paint and fill in little swirl marks and things like that. I know a guy with a black mustang cobra that shows alot, and he used it and it looked like he had a new paint job, of course his car is only driven to shows and never seen rain. I've used it on a few people's cars and I really like it, goes on easy, and comes off easy too.

[CodeRed_Xtreme]

the Meguiar's NXT that mikeeuro suggested is a good wax, i've used it before when i used to detail cars and it is a good product. on my personal cars i use the Mother's three stage system (pre-cleaner, sealer, and pure carnauba wax), also a very good product

[slammedblack99]

I like the meguiars tech wax or whatever its called. Its in the purple bottle. Ive used it for a couple years and i love it, along with all meguiars stuff.

[Dr. Steve]

Im hooked on turtle wax ice, used to use mothers clay bar, but im hooked now...lol

[Kovz]

Quote: Originally Posted by stevehh

Im hooked on turtle wax ice, used to use mothers clay bar, but im hooked now...lol

i use turtle wax ice polish if im in a hurry for a quick shine, but if i have all day to detail the truck, i use meguires cleaner wax.

[AE86 SR5]

I like the mothers carnauba cleaner wax. I did use the Meguiar's next generation wax, but I now use the mothers I like it alot more.

[untouchablez]

flynns detail products his cherry wax is the best ever nothing compares to his stuff

[flanders20]

Quote: Originally Posted by CodeRed_Xtreme

on my personal cars i use the Mother's three stage system (pre-cleaner, sealer, and pure carnauba wax), also a very good product

x2

[s10blaza1]

I personally use Meguiars #7 Showcar Glaze after a good claying followed by #26 Hi-Tech yellow wax followed by a thorough rubbing of the car with some Ultimate Quik Detailer. If the surface is pretty scratched I'll do the entire car with the #83 swirl remover with the porter cable. This method still hasn't let me down

[NotaDime]

collinite 476s

[haro2289]

We used to use cherry wax at work and it was awesome. Don't kmnow what happened to it though. Anyways I use the NXT previously mentioned and it turns out pretty good. I don't really like the ice wax. Next wax I buy I'm gonna try Nu-Finish paste wax cuz a guy at work uses it and you should see the water bead up it's crazy.

[SCOOTER77]

best wax hands down is called super glaze, sounds cheesy i know, but it rules. its made by a company called the wax shop, easy on easy off, ive never liked a wax more well its actually liquid carnuaba.you cant find it everywhere but i get mine at farm and fleet or autozone.

[tim1086]

Flynn's Cherry wax.

[Matt2000]

3M cleaner wax. Goes on easy, cleans up any little scratches or defects you might have, and ends with a nice gloss/shine.

Alternately, any of 3M's waxes if the finish is in good shape.

[xtreme3411]

This shit is great!!!

[untouchablez]

Quote: Originally Posted by tim1086

Flynn's Cherry wax.

is the shit

[CraigDavid]

i use that super glaze stuff also. i absolutely love it. its really easy to use and its fast too. leaves a wonderful finish

[NotaDime]

Quote: Originally Posted by xtreme3411

This shit is great!!!

you think thats great, try collinite 476s. i used to use that 3m.

[aquaxtreme]

Zaino FTW!!!

[Heathd]

collinite 476s is good
nattys blue is better
and p21 or migliore is best

You cant get these "off the shelf", but you can go to http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com// and find all kinds of stuff that will whip the shit out of mequires or anything else you can find in stores.

[ACE2790]

Id like to try some of the stuff Heathd mentioned but dont really know where to start and if its even worth getting to only apply by hand.

Im probably going to use Mother's Clay Bar and the NXT Meguiars wax sometime this week.

[GearHead_1]

I've demo'd/beta'd or used at least 50 different waxes/sealants over the years. With the exception of Flynn's and SuperGlaze I've tried every product listed to this point in this thread. Most are still sitting in my shop and I use them from time to time. I'm sure that I'll get jumped on for saying this but I'm going to anyway. There is no "best" wax, period. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some prefer liquid waxes, some prefer paste waxes. I happen to like paste waxes though a little more difficult to use. Some of the products already mentioned aren't really waxes. Mequair's markets NXT as a wax yet it contains no natural waxes. It's a decent product but not a wax. Zaino is another high end product that many love but it's not a wax.

If I take care of the prep work properly any one of 20 different waxes (both over the counter and boutique) will look great on my vehicle. Now if you're asking for the longest lasting waxes (not talking sealants) the Collinite line is worth looking at. If you've got a dark colored vehicle Pinnacle Souveran Paste is great though not as durable as Collinite. Price/performance with great looks, PoorBoys makes several top notch products. If you're need is for a really easy to apply paste wax P21/S100 are great.

Maintaining a beautiful finish is much more about using the proper products to get your paint ready for wax or sealant for that matter. Getting the micro marring out is where the challenge lies. Now the question may be who makes the best line of polishes or clays? A good buffer is also essential in the quest for a pristine finish.

[tt85_GM]

Turtle wax original.

But I usually just use this stuff..



wash your ride, then apply it while it's still wet, and use a chamois to dry, comes out amazing.

[eastmeadowsonoma]

I like the eagle one nanowax. First I use a mothers claybar then the wax comes out great!

[ACE2790]

I just washed the truck, used Mother's Clay Bar system, and finished it with Megiuars Tech Wax 2.0. Came out like glass of course, but I still need a much more abrasive approach to rid my black truck on the swirl marks.

I really like it though, very deep wet look. Definite night and day when I would do one panel then compare it to an unfinished portion also doesnt leave that white flaky residue in the cracks of the vehicle.

[MeltingPlastic]

I normally mothers 3 step my truck following a clay bar session depending upon how dirty the truck is. My moms TL type S needed a good wash and waxing as she hadn't washed it in months(think northeast winters) so i decided to go all out on it today BUT i figured id try the Meguire's NXT 2.0 wax and i must say it came out great. Def got rid of a lot of the imperfections in the car. Now, lets see how clean she keeps it lol

[dillon_b12]

I use nothing but 3M. Their plastic cleaner/plastic polish is AMAZING for shining up the windshield cowl and side mirrors or any other shit that is made of that black plastic.

[Sleeper S10]

I was wanting to try 3M wax but nothing available in any of the stores in my area so I ended up trying Mothers Carnauba Cleaner Wax.

Truck looks ok but I am sore from trying to get it off after applying it. A real b*tch to remove!

I wanna see how it beeds on my next wash. If it doesn't look so good I'm gonna be a cheap ass and see if I can get my money back as Mothers claims you can do.

[rrray88sdime]

Meguiars NXT tech ftw. ive used that for about 3-4 years now, and i think its the best imo. like mikeeuro said, it goes on easy, and comes off easy.

[rrray88sdime]

another thing ive tried and loved was the ICE paste polish. i clayed my truck, then polished with the paste ice , then waxed with NXT and my truck almost looked metallic.

notice how i said the paste wax. i figured the liquid shit was just as good, doesnt come off worth a damn, and it sucks compared to the paste

[94redSS]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sleeper S10

Just wondering what name wax you may suggest?
I've been told to use "3M Performance Finish wax".

Then a friend who owns a body shop says he never waxes his car and uses only "Turtlewax Soap" which is good enough. (???)

Just would like to hear a few suggestions on your preferred wax.

Thanks

after we wet sand an buff at work this is what we use to wax cars ''but we kinda have like a semi half ass contract with 3m too''

[danssoslow]

Quote: Originally Posted by ACE2790

I just washed the truck, used Mother's Clay Bar system, and finished it with Megiuars Tech Wax 2.0. Came out like glass of course, but I still need a much more abrasive approach to rid my black truck on the swirl marks.

I've heard several times in the past that people will dust cars with cornstarch before wiping off the wax to prevent swirl marks. Never tried it myself, so I have no idea on how much to use, apply it, or what. Maybe someone will chime in here.

[ChevyAddict]

the best wax I've ever used is Royal Blue. You can only buy it online at elite-products.com I tried like pretty much everything and wasn't ever completely satisfied. Once I tried this stuff though, i'm hooked now. It's the best s**t there is. Still beads up on my truck and I haven't waxed it since the fall. Just rub on and wipe off...don't let it dry.

[pipster]

Quote: Originally Posted by tt85_GM

Turtle wax original.

But I usually just use this stuff..



wash your ride, then apply it while it's still wet, and use a chamois to dry, comes out amazing.

The new aerosol is the bomb. If you have not tried it you need too!

[BaggedXMAN]

is zymol wax any good?

[ACE2790]

Quote: Originally Posted by BaggedXMAN

is zymol wax any good?

Real zymol is pretty good, the stuff you posted is a "retail" version and is only a cleaner wax.

If I remember correctly, real Zymol has to be refrigirated when not being used due to the high amount of actual Carnuba in it.

[wagonproject]

A few waxes I have and would recommend are..
nattys blue
pinnacle Souveran past wax
p21s 100%
clearkote wax

A couple I would like to try...
any of the collinite waxes
max wax
wolfgang fuzion (if it wasnt like $175, lol)
migliore wax
petes 53


I have/want more, just hard to remember them all, lol.

[GearHead_1]

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

A few waxes I have and would recommend are..
nattys blue
pinnacle Souveran past wax
p21s 100%....

Hey, that's pretty much what I said. You are a man of taste and refinement.

[wagonproject]

Quote: Originally Posted by GearHead_1

Hey, that's pretty much what I said. You are a man of taste and refinement.

lol, I wish I could try more, just this thing called money holds me back, lol. Also wish I could try some more sealants! Have you tired nattys red?

[GearHead_1]

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

lol, I wish I could try more, just this thing called money holds me back, lol. Also wish I could try some more sealants! Have you tired nattys red?

I'm a moderator on a detail site, I've had opportunity to try a lot of Last Step Products (LSP's). I haven't tried RED yet. I've committed to Steve (PoorBoys owner) to give it a try once his next batch has been made. I've tried most of the popular sealants on the market and don't have any that I couldn't get decent results out of. I really like DP's sealant as an all around value and I like the look and maybe the feel even more of FourStar's sealant, Meguiar's also does well with their sealants. Some of their professional products are much like NXT but last a little longer and can be purchased in bulk. The only sealant I can't hardily recommend is Zaino and it has nothing to do with the end result, it looks very nice. It's still a price/performance thing with me. I see many users who can make this stuff go a million miles but I don't get any more uses out of it than the others I use. I wax or seal every 4 to 6 weeks so the 6 month claimed endurance of Zaino isn't an issue for me either. So in summation, Zaino is a good product but no better than others I've tried and the cost is prohibitive in my mind. I'll probably get flamed for saying this. Zaino fans tend to be very fervent in their support. Sealants tend to last a good while but I don't wait long enough to get the real benefit of a sealant. I also like the warmer glow of a good carnauba wax when compared with the glass like gloss of a sealant. One of my favorite combos is using 4 Star's UPP (Ultra Paint Protection) topped with Pinnacle Souveran paste wax. This look is killer on dark colors, reds and blacks come out phenomenal. I haven't found any look I like better. I would also like to try Wolfgang's new Fuzion but $175 has kept me from trying it.

[wagonproject]

Yeah I would like to try it. I really like the blue. In the polish forum also.

[blazerxkid]

meguiars #7/#26 rules

[BaggedXMAN]

whats the best wax for whites?

[GearHead_1]

Best is a very subjective term. In my experience virtually anything that looks good on darker colors will look good on white. The opposite is not necessarily as universally true. Relatively speaking white is easy to make look good (as far as white paint goes). I happen to like white but many feel it is just too boring. It doesn't show swirls nearly as easily as dark colors. If I were going to buy wax for just a white car here are a few of my favorites: S100, Natty's Wax and Meguiars #26. Now if I were going to use the product on both dark and light vehicles I would probably modify the list to be: Natty's Blue, Pinnacle Souveran and from a local buy perspective NXT. Pinnacle is my favorite of all of the waxes mentioned and looks good on anything.

[wagonproject]

If you get the meguiars I would try to find it in the paste. I like paste waxes a lot better.

Also you may want to try a glaze (awaits the NO GLAZE comments). The only two that have and that I would highly recommend if you want to go the glaze route is, Danase Wet Glaze and Red Moose Glaze (Clearkote)

And yeah like gearhead said I use NB and PS on white and really like it. Though I really hate doing white cars. Also I have a bottle of Poorboys EX-P, it supposed to be good on white, haven't tried it yet though.

And yeah I was looking at that fuzion, $175, wow. I think Ill have to hold off on that for awhile, just ordered some SIP and 106! Can't wait to get them!

[wagonproject]

Quote: Originally Posted by GearHead_1

I'm a moderator on a detail site, I've had opportunity to try a lot of Last Step Products (LSP's). I haven't tried RED yet. I've committed to Steve (PoorBoys owner) to give it a try once his next batch has been made. I've tried most of the popular sealants on the market and don't have any that I couldn't get decent results out of. I really like DP's sealant as an all around value and I like the look and maybe the feel even more of FourStar's sealant, Meguiar's also does well with their sealants. Some of their professional products are much like NXT but last a little longer and can be purchased in bulk. The only sealant I can't hardily recommend is Zaino and it has nothing to do with the end result, it looks very nice. It's still a price/performance thing with me. I see many users who can make this stuff go a million miles but I don't get any more uses out of it than the others I use. I wax or seal every 4 to 6 weeks so the 6 month claimed endurance of Zaino isn't an issue for me either. So in summation, Zaino is a good product but no better than others I've tried and the cost is prohibitive in my mind. I'll probably get flamed for saying this. Zaino fans tend to be very fervent in their support. Sealants tend to last a good while but I don't wait long enough to get the real benefit of a sealant. I also like the warmer glow of a good carnauba wax when compared with the glass like gloss of a sealant. One of my favorite combos is using 4 Star's UPP (Ultra Paint Protection) topped with Pinnacle Souveran paste wax. This look is killer on dark colors, reds and blacks come out phenomenal. I haven't found any look I like better. I would also like to try Wolfgang's new Fuzion but $175 has kept me from trying it.

Yeah I have the DP sealant and one other, dont remember offf hand. Would you suggest 4star over DP, or a toss up?

[GearHead_1]

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

Yeah I have the DP sealant and one other, dont remember offf hand. Would you suggest 4star over DP, or a toss up?

DP will probably go a little longer but nothing is as slick to the touch as 4 Star. I say this in absolutes and obviously I understand that "your results may vary". 4 Star is tough to beat in both looks and feel but it costs more than DP. If it were an either/or situation I would go with UPP.

I'm with you on the paste wax thing. I really like pastes and believe they are more economical than liquids. I also like using WolfGang's glaze under a paste wax.

I got thinking about what I had written. I haven't purchased either of these for a while, I've got a cabinet full of various products I've yet to use. So... I figured I better do a price check to make sure what I was saying was correct. DP's Spray Surface Sealant is running $10 right now and the 4 Star was at $30 at one of the popular distributors. That gives you something to think about when looking at a price/performance ratio.

[thunder94]

Okay my truck got completely repainted and it's ready for a wax, since it shouldn't have to be cleaned first, what should I use?

I don't intend to take ove the thread, just curious.

[GearHead_1]

How long has it been since it was painted? Many paints have specific cure times before you lay a wax or sealant down on them. They need time to out gas and cure. Some don't require any cure time. The fact you said it didn't need to be cleaned made me wonder if it was just painted. You might do well to ask the body shop. 90 days is a safe number if you don't know the specifics. Once you've determined that it is safe to paint the door is wide open for your favorite wax or sealant.