20/20 Kustoms...

BigDuVall · 03-29-2005, 11:11 PM

http://www.2020kustoms.com/?products

Has anyone used their products before? Is the Claybar and Spray kit a good deal?

Waynestowels · 03-29-2005, 11:16 PM

You can pick up a Meguiars clay kit at K-Mart on clearance for $6.99 or go to Autozone and they have the Clay Magic kit for $9.99
Just a few good buys I recently found

Hope this helps...

Dallas@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 08:19 AM

Sure, you could go to Autozone, Walmart, Dollar Store etc. but honestly the whole reason for starting our business was because we have tested and found an 'underground' market of truly premium detailing products that far surpass the quality of anything you can buy off-the-shelf. I am 100% confident that all our products are top quality, otherwise we wouldn't offer them to fellow minitruckers.

Got_20s · 03-30-2005, 10:02 AM

I've used the Meguires clay bar. I thought it worked ok. Until I tried the Adam's clay bar. It took off way more of the overspray that was on my truck that I thought I had gotten off already. The Poorboys detailer and wheel sealant keep my truck looking clean. I hate how long it takes to detail my car/truck, but this stuff makes things go a lot easier.

Quick shipping too. I'd buy from them again.

Waynestowels · 03-30-2005, 10:17 AM

I agree...,
However, on clay...,
At this time there are only 2 "makers" of clay (that I know of)
Clay Magic(Auto Wax) and Erazer.
All the local and internet brands have purchased one or the other
Auto Wax is strongly enforcing it's patents ("993" and "416") on clay...,
If the clay is from another source, I would be very carefull, as Auto Wax is prosecuting..., (ask Forrest from Mothers, he was hit with a law suite)
It's not like there is a big choice..., I wish there was as the price would be more reasonable.
Hope this helps...

Derek@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 10:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Waynestowels

I agree...,
However, on clay...,
At this time there are only 2 "makers" of clay (that I know of)
Clay Magic(Auto Wax) and Erazer.
All the local and internet brands have purchased one or the other
Auto Wax is strongly enforcing it's patents ("993" and "416") on clay...,
If the clay is from another source, I would be very carefull, as Auto Wax is prosecuting..., (ask Forrest from Mothers, he was hit with a law suite)
It's not like there is a big choice..., I wish there was as the price would be more reasonable.
Hope this helps...

There are only two patent holders for clay. However, I have used Mothers clay several times and Adam's Clay always seems easier to stretch out and a bit softer. This sounds stupid but the actual container his clay comes in is helpfull so you arnt stuck trying to figure out where the hell o put it after each use. Of course his Quick Detailer is the shiznit. If you use Meguiars Detailer you are missing out.

5918MIKE · 03-30-2005, 11:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 02-X

we have tested and found an 'underground' market of truly premium detailing products that far surpass the quality of anything you can buy off-the-shelf.

LOL, I hope that marketing works out for ya. You do have great products but I wouldn't say those products far surpass anything I can get off the shelf. Where did you find this underground market, ROTFLMAO!

Derek@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 11:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE

LOL, I hope that marketing works out for ya. You do have great products but I wouldn't say those products far surpass anything I can get off the shelf. Where did you find this underground market, ROTFLMAO!

Well not to speak for Dallas, but I think what he means by "underground market" is that products like Poorboy's, Adam's, Four Star, Zaino arnt well known because they arnt sold on the shelf and are high quality products. I have not found a better swirl remover than Poorboy's SSR line that I can find on the shelf but thats just my opinion.

xxphatmattxx · 03-30-2005, 11:38 AM

Their shit has to be good. I saw Dallas & Derek down from Canada in Ft. Wayne, IN, & their T-Blazer conversions were sparkling. These guys take care of their rides, unlike me & my piece. o.s.....

5918MIKE · 03-30-2005, 12:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by king_nothn

Well not to speak for Dallas, but I think what he means by "underground market" is that products like Poorboy's, Adam's, Four Star, Zaino arnt well known because they arnt sold on the shelf and are high quality products. I have not found a better swirl remover than Poorboy's SSR line that I can find on the shelf but thats just my opinion.

Agreed, awesome products. Poorboy's is my favorite too.

Derek@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 12:24 PM

I have posted some pictures of a detail I did this past weekend on my fater-in-laws 2001 Dodge Intrepid using Adam's, Poorboy's & Meguiars NXT. I would say it turned out very nice.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f74/quick-afternoon-detail-job-56k-death-174594/

Dallas also posted some great results of Adam's Metal Polish #1 & #2 on his Billet wheels.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f74/info-cleaning-polishing-billet-rims-56k-beware-173430/

5918MIKE, you seem to be in tune with most of these products and I did read on Dallas' thread about Klasse AIO. How do you think Klasse AIO compares to something like Poorboy's Pro Polish? Klasse AIO is a a great product and it seems like a lot of poeple are using it between SSR and UPP.

5918MIKE · 03-30-2005, 01:40 PM

Klasse is very mild, it won't remove swirls like Poorboys SSR but it cleans up the paint and provides a great base for a wax or sealant after the polish. I would still use a good polish like SSR2.5 or Meg's 80 for swirls and then use the AIO, then Zaino, SG, or a good wax. I use the AIO/SG on my Jeep's stock chrome wheels and it holds up very well but I still want to try that Poorboy's wheel wax, i'll probably order a few things from you guys

....so are you guys offering an S10-Forum discount LOL!

Derek@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 01:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE

Klasse is very mild, it won't remove swirls like Poorboys SSR but it cleans up the paint and provides a great base for a wax or sealant after the polish. I would still use a good polish like SSR2.5 or Meg's 80 for swirls and then use the AIO, then Zaino, SG, or a good wax. I use the AIO/SG on my Jeep's stock chrome wheels and it holds up very well but I still want to try that Poorboy's wheel wax, i'll probably order a few things from you guys

Good to hear. We will hopefully have Klasse AIO and Klasse SG in our line sometime soon.

Dallas@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 03:20 PM

Umm yeah, "underground" as in not "off-the-shelf". Sorry if I made car detailing products sound like a drug.. although some of it does smell nice! LOL

I find it funny how a lot of good things aren't sold in easy access stores. For instance when was the last time someone walked into Autozone and picked up a Suicidedoors bag kit ? LOL I know Autozone doesn't sell bag parts (to my knowledge) but just giving an example of sorts...

Mike I've never tried Klasse but it's hard to ignore all the raves, I think one of these days I'll be trying it. If it works really well I'll probably get some for the store.

5918MIKE · 03-30-2005, 05:46 PM

I guess it depends on where you live as to what's off the shelf though, and it's not Walmart and Autozone but I get what you're saying I just don't like saying that 1 product is so much better than other products when there is so much more to detailing than what product you use, I think we'll both agree on that, later guys.

Dallas@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 06:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE

I guess it depends on where you live as to what's off the shelf though, and it's not Walmart and Autozone but I get what you're saying I just don't like saying that 1 product is so much better than other products when there is so much more to detailing than what product you use, I think we'll both agree on that, later guys.

True, very true there are no "magical" products out there... but generally speaking you tend to get what you pay for, that's what I really meant. :thumbup:

***00xtremeninja*** · 03-30-2005, 06:22 PM

i have checked out yer website and am considering making a purchase with some of your stuff you offer, always been a hardcore Meguiars fan, but am willing to try new stuff.

did any of you watch the TRUCKS! marathon on Spike over Easter, there was that lil ball thing that hooks up to power drills, started with a Z, anyone try that out before? My fiance's dad said he uses it down at the shop with the dump trucks and it is awesome, thought about buying one of those too.

5918MIKE · 03-30-2005, 07:21 PM

Was it flitz? I have a flitz polishing ball and it works good. Mothers also has one now but I like these even better for my aluminum wheels

http://www.eastwood.com/jump.jsp?ite...ORY&itemID=434

the facer and mushroom buffs are awesome.

Derek@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE

Was it flitz? I have a flitz polishing ball and it works good. Mothers also has one now but I like these even better for my aluminum wheels

http://www.eastwood.com/jump.jsp?ite...ORY&itemID=434

the facer and mushroom buffs are awesome.

Flitz sent us their polishing ball to try. I do not believe Dallas has tried it on any of his wheels yet so I havnt seen it in action yet. Interesting product none the less.

Dallas@2020Kustoms · 03-30-2005, 09:07 PM

Yeah I got some Flitz and the buffer with it but the whole thing seems a little gimicky. My first thought is it will do a nice job on big flat surfaces but might not work so hot in the tighter areas. I know Flitz is supposed to have some protective qualities to it as well but I think I would still top it with a few coats of Wheel Sealant.

I honestly think the buffing tools 5918MIKE linked to would probably work just as well if not better because the smaller heads and attachments can fit into the tight places.

If anyone cares to see how this thing works I'll give it a try and document with pictures etc.

bg's · 03-31-2005, 03:52 AM

Can't complain too much about the Flitz ball deal. Here is my wheel after being in the rain and me
not messing with it for a week or so. Wheels are 7 yrs old..
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL544...5/72335823.jpg

Here it is again after me just standing there in front of it using the ball and a mix of Flitz and Blue Magic.
Most work done was my right elbow lifting Bass & Co Pale Ale...Umm good stuff. Didn't take long at all.
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL544...5/72335814.jpg

Slacker · 03-31-2005, 04:03 AM

Derek, you guys sell just online? Or is there like a local place I can buy shit from?

Derek@2020Kustoms · 03-31-2005, 08:57 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Slacker

Derek, you guys sell just online? Or is there like a local place I can buy shit from?

No point in paying shipping when you live in our area! PM sent.

03-29-2005, 11:11 PM	#1
BigDuVall Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 601 Location: North Augusta, SC User is: OffLine	20/20 Kustoms... http://www.2020kustoms.com/?products Has anyone used their products before? Is the Claybar and Spray kit a good deal?
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03-29-2005, 11:16 PM	#2
Waynestowels Registered User Age: 47 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 805 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... You can pick up a Meguiars clay kit at K-Mart on clearance for $6.99 or go to Autozone and they have the Clay Magic kit for $9.99 Just a few good buys I recently found Hope this helps...
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03-30-2005, 08:19 AM	#3
Dallas@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 32 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 965 Location: Deep South Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Sure, you could go to Autozone, Walmart, Dollar Store etc. but honestly the whole reason for starting our business was because we have tested and found an 'underground' market of truly premium detailing products that far surpass the quality of anything you can buy off-the-shelf. I am 100% confident that all our products are top quality, otherwise we wouldn't offer them to fellow minitruckers.
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03-30-2005, 10:02 AM	#4
Got_20s body dropped Age: 33 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,384 Location: Whitby, Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... I've used the Meguires clay bar. I thought it worked ok. Until I tried the Adam's clay bar. It took off way more of the overspray that was on my truck that I thought I had gotten off already. The Poorboys detailer and wheel sealant keep my truck looking clean. I hate how long it takes to detail my car/truck, but this stuff makes things go a lot easier. Quick shipping too. I'd buy from them again.
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03-30-2005, 10:17 AM	#5
Waynestowels Registered User Age: 47 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 805 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... I agree..., However, on clay..., At this time there are only 2 "makers" of clay (that I know of) Clay Magic(Auto Wax) and Erazer. All the local and internet brands have purchased one or the other Auto Wax is strongly enforcing it's patents ("993" and "416") on clay..., If the clay is from another source, I would be very carefull, as Auto Wax is prosecuting..., (ask Forrest from Mothers, he was hit with a law suite) It's not like there is a big choice..., I wish there was as the price would be more reasonable. Hope this helps...
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03-30-2005, 10:29 AM	#6
Derek@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,536 Location: Windsor, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Quote: Originally Posted by Waynestowels I agree..., However, on clay..., At this time there are only 2 "makers" of clay (that I know of) Clay Magic(Auto Wax) and Erazer. All the local and internet brands have purchased one or the other Auto Wax is strongly enforcing it's patents ("993" and "416") on clay..., If the clay is from another source, I would be very carefull, as Auto Wax is prosecuting..., (ask Forrest from Mothers, he was hit with a law suite) It's not like there is a big choice..., I wish there was as the price would be more reasonable. Hope this helps... There are only two patent holders for clay. However, I have used Mothers clay several times and Adam's Clay always seems easier to stretch out and a bit softer. This sounds stupid but the actual container his clay comes in is helpfull so you arnt stuck trying to figure out where the hell o put it after each use. Of course his Quick Detailer is the shiznit. If you use Meguiars Detailer you are missing out.
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03-30-2005, 11:27 AM	#7
5918MIKE Registered User Age: 37 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 459 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Quote: Originally Posted by 02-X we have tested and found an 'underground' market of truly premium detailing products that far surpass the quality of anything you can buy off-the-shelf. LOL, I hope that marketing works out for ya. You do have great products but I wouldn't say those products far surpass anything I can get off the shelf. Where did you find this underground market, ROTFLMAO!
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03-30-2005, 11:30 AM	#8
Derek@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,536 Location: Windsor, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE LOL, I hope that marketing works out for ya. You do have great products but I wouldn't say those products far surpass anything I can get off the shelf. Where did you find this underground market, ROTFLMAO! Well not to speak for Dallas, but I think what he means by "underground market" is that products like Poorboy's, Adam's, Four Star, Zaino arnt well known because they arnt sold on the shelf and are high quality products. I have not found a better swirl remover than Poorboy's SSR line that I can find on the shelf but thats just my opinion.
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03-30-2005, 11:38 AM	#9
xxphatmattxx COSTLY CAN CRUSHER! Age: 27 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 136 Location: Auburn, IN User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Their shit has to be good. I saw Dallas & Derek down from Canada in Ft. Wayne, IN, & their T-Blazer conversions were sparkling. These guys take care of their rides, unlike me & my piece. o.s.....
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03-30-2005, 12:14 PM	#10
5918MIKE Registered User Age: 37 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 459 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Quote: Originally Posted by king_nothn Well not to speak for Dallas, but I think what he means by "underground market" is that products like Poorboy's, Adam's, Four Star, Zaino arnt well known because they arnt sold on the shelf and are high quality products. I have not found a better swirl remover than Poorboy's SSR line that I can find on the shelf but thats just my opinion. Agreed, awesome products. Poorboy's is my favorite too.
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03-30-2005, 12:24 PM	#11
Derek@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,536 Location: Windsor, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... I have posted some pictures of a detail I did this past weekend on my fater-in-laws 2001 Dodge Intrepid using Adam's, Poorboy's & Meguiars NXT. I would say it turned out very nice. http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f74/quick-afternoon-detail-job-56k-death-174594/ Dallas also posted some great results of Adam's Metal Polish #1 & #2 on his Billet wheels. http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f74/info-cleaning-polishing-billet-rims-56k-beware-173430/ 5918MIKE, you seem to be in tune with most of these products and I did read on Dallas' thread about Klasse AIO. How do you think Klasse AIO compares to something like Poorboy's Pro Polish? Klasse AIO is a a great product and it seems like a lot of poeple are using it between SSR and UPP.
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03-30-2005, 01:40 PM	#12
5918MIKE Registered User Age: 37 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 459 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Klasse is very mild, it won't remove swirls like Poorboys SSR but it cleans up the paint and provides a great base for a wax or sealant after the polish. I would still use a good polish like SSR2.5 or Meg's 80 for swirls and then use the AIO, then Zaino, SG, or a good wax. I use the AIO/SG on my Jeep's stock chrome wheels and it holds up very well but I still want to try that Poorboy's wheel wax, i'll probably order a few things from you guys ....so are you guys offering an S10-Forum discount LOL!
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03-30-2005, 01:46 PM	#13
Derek@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,536 Location: Windsor, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE Klasse is very mild, it won't remove swirls like Poorboys SSR but it cleans up the paint and provides a great base for a wax or sealant after the polish. I would still use a good polish like SSR2.5 or Meg's 80 for swirls and then use the AIO, then Zaino, SG, or a good wax. I use the AIO/SG on my Jeep's stock chrome wheels and it holds up very well but I still want to try that Poorboy's wheel wax, i'll probably order a few things from you guys Good to hear. We will hopefully have Klasse AIO and Klasse SG in our line sometime soon.
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03-30-2005, 03:20 PM	#14
Dallas@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 32 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 965 Location: Deep South Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Umm yeah, "underground" as in not "off-the-shelf". Sorry if I made car detailing products sound like a drug.. although some of it does smell nice! LOL I find it funny how a lot of good things aren't sold in easy access stores. For instance when was the last time someone walked into Autozone and picked up a Suicidedoors bag kit ? LOL I know Autozone doesn't sell bag parts (to my knowledge) but just giving an example of sorts... Mike I've never tried Klasse but it's hard to ignore all the raves, I think one of these days I'll be trying it. If it works really well I'll probably get some for the store.
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03-30-2005, 05:46 PM	#15
5918MIKE Registered User Age: 37 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 459 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... I guess it depends on where you live as to what's off the shelf though, and it's not Walmart and Autozone but I get what you're saying I just don't like saying that 1 product is so much better than other products when there is so much more to detailing than what product you use, I think we'll both agree on that, later guys.
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03-30-2005, 06:17 PM	#16
Dallas@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 32 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 965 Location: Deep South Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE I guess it depends on where you live as to what's off the shelf though, and it's not Walmart and Autozone but I get what you're saying I just don't like saying that 1 product is so much better than other products when there is so much more to detailing than what product you use, I think we'll both agree on that, later guys. True, very true there are no "magical" products out there... but generally speaking you tend to get what you pay for, that's what I really meant. :thumbup:
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03-30-2005, 06:22 PM	#17
*00xtremeninja* Mega Man 2 Mod Age: 24 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,671 Location: MN User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... i have checked out yer website and am considering making a purchase with some of your stuff you offer, always been a hardcore Meguiars fan, but am willing to try new stuff. did any of you watch the TRUCKS! marathon on Spike over Easter, there was that lil ball thing that hooks up to power drills, started with a Z, anyone try that out before? My fiance's dad said he uses it down at the shop with the dump trucks and it is awesome, thought about buying one of those too.
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03-30-2005, 07:21 PM	#18
5918MIKE Registered User Age: 37 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 459 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Was it flitz? I have a flitz polishing ball and it works good. Mothers also has one now but I like these even better for my aluminum wheels http://www.eastwood.com/jump.jsp?ite...ORY&itemID=434 the facer and mushroom buffs are awesome.
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03-30-2005, 07:29 PM	#19
Derek@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,536 Location: Windsor, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Quote: Originally Posted by 5918MIKE Was it flitz? I have a flitz polishing ball and it works good. Mothers also has one now but I like these even better for my aluminum wheels http://www.eastwood.com/jump.jsp?ite...ORY&itemID=434 the facer and mushroom buffs are awesome. Flitz sent us their polishing ball to try. I do not believe Dallas has tried it on any of his wheels yet so I havnt seen it in action yet. Interesting product none the less.
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03-30-2005, 09:07 PM	#20
Dallas@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 32 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 965 Location: Deep South Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Yeah I got some Flitz and the buffer with it but the whole thing seems a little gimicky. My first thought is it will do a nice job on big flat surfaces but might not work so hot in the tighter areas. I know Flitz is supposed to have some protective qualities to it as well but I think I would still top it with a few coats of Wheel Sealant. I honestly think the buffing tools 5918MIKE linked to would probably work just as well if not better because the smaller heads and attachments can fit into the tight places. If anyone cares to see how this thing works I'll give it a try and document with pictures etc.
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03-31-2005, 03:52 AM	#21
bg's crap Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,096 Location: Who cares.. User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Can't complain too much about the Flitz ball deal. Here is my wheel after being in the rain and me not messing with it for a week or so. Wheels are 7 yrs old.. http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL544...5/72335823.jpg Here it is again after me just standing there in front of it using the ball and a mix of Flitz and Blue Magic. Most work done was my right elbow lifting Bass & Co Pale Ale...Umm good stuff. Didn't take long at all. http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL544...5/72335814.jpg
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03-31-2005, 04:03 AM	#22
Slacker Stepsider Age: 25 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,975 Location: Windsor, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Derek, you guys sell just online? Or is there like a local place I can buy shit from?
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03-31-2005, 08:57 AM	#23
Derek@2020Kustoms Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,536 Location: Windsor, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: 20/20 Kustoms... Quote: Originally Posted by Slacker Derek, you guys sell just online? Or is there like a local place I can buy shit from? No point in paying shipping when you live in our area! PM sent.
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