100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help!

wagonproject · 05-03-2006, 11:15 PM

Well I just recently started to deatil my care and take my time, usually it was just a wash. Well a few months ago, I used a clay bar and then put on some mothers wax. Now I would like to invest in a buffer and try my hand at that. I am going to get the Port Cable 7336. I printed off a how-to on using the buffer from www.autopia.com and have been doing some research on what steps I need to take. It says first use a pre-wax cleanser, they used Sonus Paintwork Cleanser, apply with the Porter Cable. Then they say use a finishing pad or a buffing towel to remove the residue from the cleanser. Then they used P21S Carnauba Wax and applied with the Porter Cable and then wiped the haze away with a finishing pad. Are those two good products? And are those steps good? Will these work with the port cable http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sondas.html and is that backing plate just attach to the Porter Cable? So I am thinking of getting the backing plate, two blue pads and I am not sure if I should get two of the orange or green pad, I think the green as my paint is still okay, just swirls and dull in some spots or should I use the tougher one? And then two bonnets. Any suggestions/comments to first time user. Any help is greatly appreciated.

***raider600*** · 05-03-2006, 11:19 PM

touchy subject as you can see in other posts
you dont want to use anypad thats to harsh. youll end up burning your paint off. thats not good.
i dont know of the products they use for it. just go with the directions. does it say to buff with water to minimize swirls and heat causing the paint to come off?

dropped1 · 05-03-2006, 11:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sondas.html

I'd order that kit, thats what I started off with, and it did me well. What color is your paint? Marring? swirls etc..

As far as those steps...
I would wash your truck well, clay bar the entire thing, polish the paint with swirl remover depending on the condition of the paint pick the proper pad/product combination. I like the Poorboys World SSR line of swirl removers, easy to use and work very well. http://www.poorboysworld.com

And Raider660, the only reason one would use water while buffing is to mist the surface to make the product they are using MORE harsh/abrassive.

Also its DIFFICULT to damage paint with a Portercable because its a dual action polisher, not a rotary.

wagonproject · 05-03-2006, 11:44 PM

My paint is like a tan, brownish. Thank you guys a ton for the help. So would you recommend the P21S Carnauba Wax still or ? And I will have to look at the poorboy stuff, thank you.

***raider600*** · 05-03-2006, 11:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dropped1

And Raider660, the only reason one would use water while buffing is to mist the surface to make the product they are using MORE harsh/abrassive.

Also its DIFFICULT to damage paint with a Portercable because its a dual action polisher, not a rotary.

didnt know it was "dual action" never looked. and we would use water to minimize heat. water isnt abrassive tardo

dropped1 · 05-03-2006, 11:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by raider600

didnt know it was "dual action" never looked. and we would use water to minimize heat. water isnt abrassive tardo

hey tardo. The water adds to the cutting ability of the compound because it elminates the lubricating properties of the product. Wow you learn something new every day. TARDO. I'm not going to get into it with you anymore, basically don't listen to anything this kid has to say because he really has no understanding of professional detailing.

And if you have never heard of a Portercable 7336 or 7424...what kind of detailer are you?

***raider600*** · 05-03-2006, 11:56 PM

ya dont listen to me. keep claying and like you said your paint still ist looking good.
your point is mute dropped1.

LikeaRock · 05-04-2006, 12:10 AM

I buff properly and don't burn paint. I don't use water, I use a cutting pad, I use other pads, IO use a clay bar. Every day of the week...

Anywho, Pewter's an easy color to take care of. The PC is perfect for you

dropped1 · 05-04-2006, 12:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject

My paint is like a tan, brownish. Thank you guys a ton for the help. So would you recommend the P21S Carnauba Wax still or ? And I will have to look at the poorboy stuff, thank you.

p21s is very good...it all depends on what you are looking for...

Durability? Protection? Wet Look? etc.

twelvam · 05-10-2006, 02:34 AM

hmmm we have this stuff at work, i will look tomorrow, and we just squirt it on the car and go over it with the finishing pad and then wipe it down with a terry cloth......comes out reall clean and smooth looking...

05-03-2006, 11:15 PM	#1
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! Well I just recently started to deatil my care and take my time, usually it was just a wash. Well a few months ago, I used a clay bar and then put on some mothers wax. Now I would like to invest in a buffer and try my hand at that. I am going to get the Port Cable 7336. I printed off a how-to on using the buffer from www.autopia.com and have been doing some research on what steps I need to take. It says first use a pre-wax cleanser, they used Sonus Paintwork Cleanser, apply with the Porter Cable. Then they say use a finishing pad or a buffing towel to remove the residue from the cleanser. Then they used P21S Carnauba Wax and applied with the Porter Cable and then wiped the haze away with a finishing pad. Are those two good products? And are those steps good? Will these work with the port cable http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sondas.html and is that backing plate just attach to the Porter Cable? So I am thinking of getting the backing plate, two blue pads and I am not sure if I should get two of the orange or green pad, I think the green as my paint is still okay, just swirls and dull in some spots or should I use the tougher one? And then two bonnets. Any suggestions/comments to first time user. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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05-03-2006, 11:19 PM	#2
*raider600* Hey kids! Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,163 Location: Indianapolis! User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! touchy subject as you can see in other posts you dont want to use anypad thats to harsh. youll end up burning your paint off. thats not good. i dont know of the products they use for it. just go with the directions. does it say to buff with water to minimize swirls and heat causing the paint to come off?
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05-03-2006, 11:39 PM	#3
dropped1 bagged1 Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,214 Location: Yokosuka, Japan User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sondas.html I'd order that kit, thats what I started off with, and it did me well. What color is your paint? Marring? swirls etc.. As far as those steps... I would wash your truck well, clay bar the entire thing, polish the paint with swirl remover depending on the condition of the paint pick the proper pad/product combination. I like the Poorboys World SSR line of swirl removers, easy to use and work very well. http://www.poorboysworld.com And Raider660, the only reason one would use water while buffing is to mist the surface to make the product they are using MORE harsh/abrassive. Also its DIFFICULT to damage paint with a Portercable because its a dual action polisher, not a rotary. Last edited by dropped1 : 05-03-2006 at 11:41 PM.
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05-03-2006, 11:44 PM	#4
wagonproject Short Bus Anonymous Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,385 Location: Kalamazoo, MI User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! My paint is like a tan, brownish. Thank you guys a ton for the help. So would you recommend the P21S Carnauba Wax still or ? And I will have to look at the poorboy stuff, thank you.
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05-03-2006, 11:46 PM	#5
*raider600* Hey kids! Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,163 Location: Indianapolis! User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! Quote: Originally Posted by dropped1 And Raider660, the only reason one would use water while buffing is to mist the surface to make the product they are using MORE harsh/abrassive. Also its DIFFICULT to damage paint with a Portercable because its a dual action polisher, not a rotary. didnt know it was "dual action" never looked. and we would use water to minimize heat. water isnt abrassive tardo
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05-03-2006, 11:53 PM	#6
dropped1 bagged1 Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,214 Location: Yokosuka, Japan User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! Quote: Originally Posted by raider600 didnt know it was "dual action" never looked. and we would use water to minimize heat. water isnt abrassive tardo hey tardo. The water adds to the cutting ability of the compound because it elminates the lubricating properties of the product. Wow you learn something new every day. TARDO. I'm not going to get into it with you anymore, basically don't listen to anything this kid has to say because he really has no understanding of professional detailing. And if you have never heard of a Portercable 7336 or 7424...what kind of detailer are you? Last edited by dropped1 : 05-03-2006 at 11:54 PM.
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05-03-2006, 11:56 PM	#7
*raider600* Hey kids! Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,163 Location: Indianapolis! User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! ya dont listen to me. keep claying and like you said your paint still ist looking good. your point is mute dropped1.
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05-04-2006, 12:10 AM	#8
LikeaRock Rustbucket Club Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 772 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! I buff properly and don't burn paint. I don't use water, I use a cutting pad, I use other pads, IO use a clay bar. Every day of the week... Anywho, Pewter's an easy color to take care of. The PC is perfect for you
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05-04-2006, 12:27 AM	#9
dropped1 bagged1 Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,214 Location: Yokosuka, Japan User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! Quote: Originally Posted by wagonproject My paint is like a tan, brownish. Thank you guys a ton for the help. So would you recommend the P21S Carnauba Wax still or ? And I will have to look at the poorboy stuff, thank you. p21s is very good...it all depends on what you are looking for... Durability? Protection? Wet Look? etc.
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05-10-2006, 02:34 AM	#10
twelvam under construction Age: 19 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,871 Location: amarillo texas User is: OffLine	Re: 100,000 miles, time to invest in a buffer! Help! hmmm we have this stuff at work, i will look tomorrow, and we just squirt it on the car and go over it with the finishing pad and then wipe it down with a terry cloth......comes out reall clean and smooth looking...
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