Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish

RustyButTrusty · 04-03-2008, 02:11 AM

I'm taking an autobody refinishing class at school ( Oakland Community College

lol ) and I decided to shave my tailgate as my class project. Total time from start to finish was about 7 weeks, as I only had access to it one day a week. I probably have about 25ish hours into it total. But, I'll stop blabing now and get to the pictures :

Eww!

(I can't seem to find the pictures of the filler welded in... weird. But you all know what that looks like anyway... )

One coat of Metal2Metal filler

Roughed out, and a little hammer/dollie work on the highspots

First coat of Rage filler

Roughed out

Second coat or Rage

Third coat

RustyButTrusty · 04-03-2008, 02:12 AM

First coat of highbuild ( 4 total )

Guide coat

Blocked down

Me laying down some highbuild, and yes I know I dont have my resperator on, sue me!

Some Epoxy sealer in the booth

Value shade 7!

Mmmm... "U9792" aka Indigo Blue Metallic

Mixing computer/table, what a mess... damn Monday class!

Paint mix rack...

RustyButTrusty · 04-03-2008, 02:12 AM

1st coat of base

3rd/final coat of base

3 coats of high solids clear

RustyButTrusty · 04-03-2008, 02:12 AM

The next week, DA'd with 1500 grit and a foam pad

Dirt nibs removed with a hard pad and 1500 on a DA

DA'd with 3000grit

Started buffing

Almost there!

And finally, the finished product :

Came out pretty damn good if you ask me... not bad for my first major bodywork mod ever!

JMew03 · 04-03-2008, 02:18 AM

shiny!!

looks good

DevilDriver · 04-03-2008, 02:19 AM

Looks like a very nice first project. Doors next?

01_STL_X · 04-03-2008, 02:20 AM

01Blue · 04-03-2008, 02:22 AM

dang man.....that turned out great!

RustyButTrusty · 04-03-2008, 02:22 AM

Thanks guys!

Quote: Originally Posted by DevilDriver

Looks like a very nice first project. Doors next?

3rd brake light actually... my roof needs repainting, so I figure I might as well go ahead and do that with I'm at it, lol

RustyButTrusty · 04-03-2008, 02:26 AM

And just a little sneak peak of whats to come next :

Stay tuned for more!

Dork · 04-03-2008, 02:39 AM

Finished product looks pretty good for a first timer. For future reference remove the paint where you are spreading body filler, I noticed you have a lot of your metal2metal and rage ontop of paint.

RustyButTrusty · 04-03-2008, 02:54 AM

Thanks. I had asked my instructor about that and he said that as long as the paint was properly prepped (as in roughed up with 80 grit) and the filler feathered out/didnt lift at the edges that it would be fine. For some reason the OEM paint was really thick and I would've had to remove it all if i didn't want filler to touch paint, lol

Dork · 04-03-2008, 03:09 AM

In this picture I can see shiney paint at the edge of your filler, Thus leading me to believe all the paint is not roughed up with 80 grit, Do yourself a favor and just remove the paint next time. And remember, There is a reason your teacher is an instructor at a community college and not out working in the trade.

RustyButTrusty · 04-03-2008, 03:34 AM

I wasn't finished with that side when I took this pic.

And for the record, my instructor has been working in the business for 30 years. He's work for a lot of well know shops and has even done work as an advisor for Chrysler... he knows his shit.

Dork · 04-03-2008, 03:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by RustyButTrusty

I wasn't finished with that side when I took this pic.

And for the record, my instructor has been working in the business for 30 years. He's work for a lot of well know shops and has even done work as an advisor for Chrysler... he knows his shit.

So you spread filler over shiney paint. Why? I have wokred with guys that have been doing this for 40 years. A lot of them are hacks, been hacks for 40 years. Some used to be good, just don't care anymore.
Whatever, I see your going to make it far in this trade now that you have all this knowledge he gave you and don't need to listen to good advice that is actually correct. I mean, he did teach you how to warp a tailgate requireing the need for metal filler, regular body filler, and 2 different sessions of priming/blocking, all to have a tailgate that still has waves.. Your right. I stand corrected. Good work

sdime98 · 04-03-2008, 09:58 AM

nice work man..i'm antzy to get mine finished up so i can shoot it...

guess thats what i get for finishing up shaving the handle, then 2 weeks later, tearing back into it to graft the chevrolet emblem into it..

got_u_sick · 04-03-2008, 11:28 AM

Very nice man, real good job.

Mattie L. · 04-03-2008, 11:42 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Dork

So you spread filler over shiney paint. Why? I have wokred with guys that have been doing this for 40 years. A lot of them are hacks, been hacks for 40 years. Some used to be good, just don't care anymore.
Whatever, I see your going to make it far in this trade now that you have all this knowledge he gave you and don't need to listen to good advice that is actually correct. I mean, he did teach you how to warp a tailgate requireing the need for metal filler, regular body filler, and 2 different sessions of priming/blocking, all to have a tailgate that still has waves.. Your right. I stand corrected. Good work

calm down give him a break

cpolaris502 · 04-03-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Dork

In this picture I can see shiney paint at the edge of your filler, Thus leading me to believe all the paint is not roughed up with 80 grit, Do yourself a favor and just remove the paint next time. And remember, There is a reason your teacher is an instructor at a community college and not out working in the trade.

where do you see it up to the shiny paint? if you're talking about the bottom edge, that looks like metal to me.

01cherryreds10 · 04-03-2008, 02:37 PM

Dang I wish you welded up the bottom lip of the gate too, but wow it really looks like a great job.

***paint toad*** · 04-03-2008, 04:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RustyButTrusty

Thanks. I had asked my instructor about that and he said that as long as the paint was properly prepped (as in roughed up with 80 grit) and the filler feathered out/didnt lift at the edges that it would be fine. For some reason the OEM paint was really thick and I would've had to remove it all if i didn't want filler to touch paint, lol

exactly.....remove it down to metal.....it's ok to have a bit of filler on top of featheredged factory primer.......it's ok to put glaze on top of paint,not filler.......

your instructor is an idiot....he should have taught you better..... there is no reason to have that much warpage......there is also no reason to have to prime and paint the entire gate...it should have been able to just be spotted in and blend the color.....

i know it is your first project and i am not bashing your work because someone taught you like that and made you think it was ok......

it is not ok....your instructor should be fired

buzz through the pics over here,that'll give you a visual on what it should look like:

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f72/si...57/index3.html

2002dime · 04-03-2008, 04:22 PM

i was gonna say the same thing...you almost used 1/2 gallon of bondo to fill a tailgate handle??? I would of spotted it in myslef too.^^

5spdsdime · 04-03-2008, 04:38 PM

i think it looks great especially for one of your first mods

Dork · 04-03-2008, 05:15 PM

For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick, and yes for your first time it looks great. My point is, you are being taught WRONG. And since you were set on not believing me and assuming that your teacher knew everything I got a lil frustrated. So once again I'm sorry, the finished product looks great for your first try, and your instructor should not be instructing anyone and is wrong. You will find this to be true if you continue in this trade and go to work.

***paint toad*** · 04-03-2008, 05:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Dork

For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick, and yes for your first time it looks great. My point is, you are being taught WRONG. And since you were set on not believing me and assuming that your teacher knew everything I got a lil frustrated. So once again I'm sorry, the finished product looks great for your first try, and your instructor should not be instructing anyone and is wrong. You will find this to be true if you continue in this trade and go to work.

i know exactly what you are saying and my post was made to back you up

geneticrider13 · 04-03-2008, 07:32 PM

damn dude, looks amazing, wish mine was that nice!, cant believe how nice and straight it is. atleast im not the only one rockin the indigo

DroppedOnDuece210 · 04-03-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cpolaris502

where do you see it up to the shiny paint? if you're talking about the bottom edge, that looks like metal to me.

he's talking about from the bottom left to almost halfway up the tailgate.. and seeing thats its still shiny it didnt even feather edge right, I bet you could chip that right off with out much effort...

again like the others not being a dick just trying to help you out... the way I see it the guys who say it looks great are the dicks for not educating you ( or they just don't know what they're looking at)...

RustyButTrusty · 04-04-2008, 12:29 AM

It looks like alot of filler, but its not more than 1/8th thick... and thats right over the filler plate because it was a little too small from SD. And for the record, the metal didn't get warped from me welding in the filler. I took a file to the paint before I even plugged the welder in to see if it was low already and it was.

And for you guys that keep pointing out the shiney paint on the bottom left corner, I WASN'T FINSISHED FEATHERING. Everything was feathered back to where the paint was roughed up/taken down to primer. My instructor is not an idiot... I'm not even going to go there because this seriously pisses me off.

***paint toad*** · 04-04-2008, 12:42 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by RustyButTrusty

It looks like alot of filler, but its not more than 1/8th thick... and thats right over the filler plate because it was a little too small from SD. And for the record, the metal didn't get warped from me welding in the filler. I took a file to the paint before I even plugged the welder in to see if it was low already and it was.

And for you guys that keep pointing out the shiney paint on the bottom left corner, I WASN'T FINSISHED FEATHERING. Everything was feathered back to where the paint was roughed up/taken down to primer. My instructor is not an idiot... I'm not even going to go there because this seriously pisses me off.

well you can pass this message on to your instructor:

Sir,instead of introducing a new generation of hack body men into my trade i respectfully ask that you retire from teaching anymore.Clearly by looking at this picture here:

you can see the amount of paint and primer that has had body filler applied to it.Now i am all in favor of having a featheredge of filler applied on top of the featheredged factory primer,but clearly there is too much filler in this picture to apply on top of paint,no less.I know this was not stripped off before the next wipe and now you have created a sandwich of sub par substrates that the filler has been applied over.You should be teaching your students to strip the paint and primer completely off the panel when applying filler in this amount.

sincerely,

paint toad.

04-03-2008, 02:11 AM	#1
RustyButTrusty The Blue Pwns Joo! Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,320 Location: User is: OffLine	Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish I'm taking an autobody refinishing class at school ( Oakland Community College lol ) and I decided to shave my tailgate as my class project. Total time from start to finish was about 7 weeks, as I only had access to it one day a week. I probably have about 25ish hours into it total. But, I'll stop blabing now and get to the pictures : Eww! (I can't seem to find the pictures of the filler welded in... weird. But you all know what that looks like anyway... ) One coat of Metal2Metal filler Roughed out, and a little hammer/dollie work on the highspots First coat of Rage filler Roughed out Second coat or Rage Third coat
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04-03-2008, 02:12 AM	#2
RustyButTrusty The Blue Pwns Joo! Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,320 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish First coat of highbuild ( 4 total ) Guide coat Blocked down Me laying down some highbuild, and yes I know I dont have my resperator on, sue me! Some Epoxy sealer in the booth Value shade 7! Mmmm... "U9792" aka Indigo Blue Metallic Mixing computer/table, what a mess... damn Monday class! Paint mix rack...
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04-03-2008, 02:12 AM	#3
RustyButTrusty The Blue Pwns Joo! Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,320 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish 1st coat of base 3rd/final coat of base 3 coats of high solids clear
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04-03-2008, 02:12 AM	#4
RustyButTrusty The Blue Pwns Joo! Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,320 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish The next week, DA'd with 1500 grit and a foam pad Dirt nibs removed with a hard pad and 1500 on a DA DA'd with 3000grit Started buffing Almost there! And finally, the finished product : Came out pretty damn good if you ask me... not bad for my first major bodywork mod ever!
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04-03-2008, 02:18 AM	#5
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04-03-2008, 02:19 AM	#6
DevilDriver Inspired Soundwave Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,253 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Looks like a very nice first project. Doors next?
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04-03-2008, 02:20 AM	#7
01_STL_X On Vacation Age: 19 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,015 Location: STL User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish
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04-03-2008, 02:22 AM	#8
01Blue Automotive Renderings Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,076 Location: Tinley Park User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish dang man.....that turned out great!
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04-03-2008, 02:26 AM	#10
RustyButTrusty The Blue Pwns Joo! Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,320 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish And just a little sneak peak of whats to come next : Stay tuned for more!
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04-03-2008, 02:39 AM	#11
Dork Mud Master Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 393 Location: Fife, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Finished product looks pretty good for a first timer. For future reference remove the paint where you are spreading body filler, I noticed you have a lot of your metal2metal and rage ontop of paint.
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04-03-2008, 02:54 AM	#12
RustyButTrusty The Blue Pwns Joo! Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,320 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Thanks. I had asked my instructor about that and he said that as long as the paint was properly prepped (as in roughed up with 80 grit) and the filler feathered out/didnt lift at the edges that it would be fine. For some reason the OEM paint was really thick and I would've had to remove it all if i didn't want filler to touch paint, lol
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04-03-2008, 03:09 AM	#13
Dork Mud Master Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 393 Location: Fife, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish In this picture I can see shiney paint at the edge of your filler, Thus leading me to believe all the paint is not roughed up with 80 grit, Do yourself a favor and just remove the paint next time. And remember, There is a reason your teacher is an instructor at a community college and not out working in the trade.
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04-03-2008, 03:34 AM	#14
RustyButTrusty The Blue Pwns Joo! Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,320 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish I wasn't finished with that side when I took this pic. And for the record, my instructor has been working in the business for 30 years. He's work for a lot of well know shops and has even done work as an advisor for Chrysler... he knows his shit.
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04-03-2008, 03:51 AM	#15
Dork Mud Master Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 393 Location: Fife, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Quote: Originally Posted by RustyButTrusty I wasn't finished with that side when I took this pic. And for the record, my instructor has been working in the business for 30 years. He's work for a lot of well know shops and has even done work as an advisor for Chrysler... he knows his shit. So you spread filler over shiney paint. Why? I have wokred with guys that have been doing this for 40 years. A lot of them are hacks, been hacks for 40 years. Some used to be good, just don't care anymore. Whatever, I see your going to make it far in this trade now that you have all this knowledge he gave you and don't need to listen to good advice that is actually correct. I mean, he did teach you how to warp a tailgate requireing the need for metal filler, regular body filler, and 2 different sessions of priming/blocking, all to have a tailgate that still has waves.. Your right. I stand corrected. Good work Last edited by Dork : 04-03-2008 at 03:56 AM.
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04-03-2008, 09:58 AM	#16
sdime98 Carolina S-Series Mod. Age: 23 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 46,524 Location: Laurel Hill, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish nice work man..i'm antzy to get mine finished up so i can shoot it... guess thats what i get for finishing up shaving the handle, then 2 weeks later, tearing back into it to graft the chevrolet emblem into it..
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04-03-2008, 11:28 AM	#17
got_u_sick PUNISHING GROUNDS Age: 24 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,323 Location: Kentucky User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Very nice man, real good job.
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04-03-2008, 11:42 AM	#18
Mattie L. Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 774 Location: Parsonsburg MD User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Quote: Originally Posted by Dork So you spread filler over shiney paint. Why? I have wokred with guys that have been doing this for 40 years. A lot of them are hacks, been hacks for 40 years. Some used to be good, just don't care anymore. Whatever, I see your going to make it far in this trade now that you have all this knowledge he gave you and don't need to listen to good advice that is actually correct. I mean, he did teach you how to warp a tailgate requireing the need for metal filler, regular body filler, and 2 different sessions of priming/blocking, all to have a tailgate that still has waves.. Your right. I stand corrected. Good work calm down give him a break
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04-03-2008, 01:45 PM	#19
cpolaris502 I wonder how it tastes? Age: 19 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12,511 Location: Rogers, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Quote: Originally Posted by Dork In this picture I can see shiney paint at the edge of your filler, Thus leading me to believe all the paint is not roughed up with 80 grit, Do yourself a favor and just remove the paint next time. And remember, There is a reason your teacher is an instructor at a community college and not out working in the trade. where do you see it up to the shiny paint? if you're talking about the bottom edge, that looks like metal to me.
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04-03-2008, 02:37 PM	#20
01cherryreds10 Wanna see some magic? Age: 18 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,827 Location: Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Dang I wish you welded up the bottom lip of the gate too, but wow it really looks like a great job.
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04-03-2008, 04:04 PM	#21
*paint toad* i'm back Age: 39 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18,971 Location: morton il User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Quote: Originally Posted by RustyButTrusty Thanks. I had asked my instructor about that and he said that as long as the paint was properly prepped (as in roughed up with 80 grit) and the filler feathered out/didnt lift at the edges that it would be fine. For some reason the OEM paint was really thick and I would've had to remove it all if i didn't want filler to touch paint, lol exactly.....remove it down to metal.....it's ok to have a bit of filler on top of featheredged factory primer.......it's ok to put glaze on top of paint,not filler....... your instructor is an idiot....he should have taught you better..... there is no reason to have that much warpage......there is also no reason to have to prime and paint the entire gate...it should have been able to just be spotted in and blend the color..... i know it is your first project and i am not bashing your work because someone taught you like that and made you think it was ok...... it is not ok....your instructor should be fired buzz through the pics over here,that'll give you a visual on what it should look like: http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f72/si...57/index3.html
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04-03-2008, 04:22 PM	#22
2002dime Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 224 Location: Joplin, MO User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish i was gonna say the same thing...you almost used 1/2 gallon of bondo to fill a tailgate handle??? I would of spotted it in myslef too.^^
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04-03-2008, 04:38 PM	#23
5spdsdime bodydropped member Age: 21 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327 Location: brunswick ga User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish i think it looks great especially for one of your first mods
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04-03-2008, 05:15 PM	#24
Dork Mud Master Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 393 Location: Fife, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick, and yes for your first time it looks great. My point is, you are being taught WRONG. And since you were set on not believing me and assuming that your teacher knew everything I got a lil frustrated. So once again I'm sorry, the finished product looks great for your first try, and your instructor should not be instructing anyone and is wrong. You will find this to be true if you continue in this trade and go to work.
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04-03-2008, 05:28 PM	#25
*paint toad* i'm back Age: 39 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18,971 Location: morton il User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Quote: Originally Posted by Dork For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick, and yes for your first time it looks great. My point is, you are being taught WRONG. And since you were set on not believing me and assuming that your teacher knew everything I got a lil frustrated. So once again I'm sorry, the finished product looks great for your first try, and your instructor should not be instructing anyone and is wrong. You will find this to be true if you continue in this trade and go to work. i know exactly what you are saying and my post was made to back you up
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04-03-2008, 07:32 PM	#26
geneticrider13 real names Chris Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 695 Location: Allentown, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish damn dude, looks amazing, wish mine was that nice!, cant believe how nice and straight it is. atleast im not the only one rockin the indigo
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04-03-2008, 07:33 PM	#27
DroppedOnDuece210 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,051 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Quote: Originally Posted by cpolaris502 where do you see it up to the shiny paint? if you're talking about the bottom edge, that looks like metal to me. he's talking about from the bottom left to almost halfway up the tailgate.. and seeing thats its still shiny it didnt even feather edge right, I bet you could chip that right off with out much effort... again like the others not being a dick just trying to help you out... the way I see it the guys who say it looks great are the dicks for not educating you ( or they just don't know what they're looking at)...
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04-04-2008, 12:29 AM	#28
RustyButTrusty The Blue Pwns Joo! Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,320 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish It looks like alot of filler, but its not more than 1/8th thick... and thats right over the filler plate because it was a little too small from SD. And for the record, the metal didn't get warped from me welding in the filler. I took a file to the paint before I even plugged the welder in to see if it was low already and it was. And for you guys that keep pointing out the shiney paint on the bottom left corner, I WASN'T FINSISHED FEATHERING. Everything was feathered back to where the paint was roughed up/taken down to primer. My instructor is not an idiot... I'm not even going to go there because this seriously pisses me off.
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04-04-2008, 12:42 AM	#29
*paint toad* i'm back Age: 39 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18,971 Location: morton il User is: OffLine	Re: Shaved my tailgate, LOTS of pics from start to finish Quote: Originally Posted by RustyButTrusty It looks like alot of filler, but its not more than 1/8th thick... and thats right over the filler plate because it was a little too small from SD. And for the record, the metal didn't get warped from me welding in the filler. I took a file to the paint before I even plugged the welder in to see if it was low already and it was. And for you guys that keep pointing out the shiney paint on the bottom left corner, I WASN'T FINSISHED FEATHERING. Everything was feathered back to where the paint was roughed up/taken down to primer. My instructor is not an idiot... I'm not even going to go there because this seriously pisses me off. well you can pass this message on to your instructor: Sir,instead of introducing a new generation of hack body men into my trade i respectfully ask that you retire from teaching anymore.Clearly by looking at this picture here: you can see the amount of paint and primer that has had body filler applied to it.Now i am all in favor of having a featheredge of filler applied on top of the featheredged factory primer,but clearly there is too much filler in this picture to apply on top of paint,no less.I know this was not stripped off before the next wipe and now you have created a sandwich of sub par substrates that the filler has been applied over.You should be teaching your students to strip the paint and primer completely off the panel when applying filler in this amount. sincerely, paint toad.
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