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post #1 of 19 Old 06-25-2005, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
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found some stuff called Right Stuff at advance auto parts. its a de-ruster and metal conditioner. is this stuff any good at preventing future corrosion and getting rid of some present rust.

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never used it but all i know is that most retail rust products are ment for temporary or short use... cor ban 35 is a air craft product that will last and work
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Hello! Right Stuff De-Ruster Metal Conditioner is an excellent product.
I own a Hot Rod Shop called Classic Metal Works and I put this on every one of the cars I build. It will convert any existing rust to a neutral state and provides excellent adhesion for primer.
Any time you treat bare metal with a conditioner, it will cause the primer you put on it to last much longer. The fact that this product coverts the rust, not just treat it, makes it much better than a lot of top dollar name brand products on the market.
It is one of the Hot Rod Industry's "dirty little secrets." All the pros have been using it for years! You can mostly find it at parts stores and agriculture supply stores. It is still relatively cheap right now so buy it while you can!
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juddspaintballs: radio shack didn't have the pot i need and the guy there didn't know shit
flamintoad2000: i never bought pot at radio shack

juddspaintballs: called PE today
juddspaintballs: got my shit shipped for $3.95 instead of $11.35
flamintoad2000: nice!mail order pot!
juddspaintballs: yep
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Hello! Right Stuff De-Ruster Metal Conditioner is an excellent product.
I own a Hot Rod Shop called Classic Metal Works and I put this on every one of the cars I build. It will convert any existing rust to a neutral state and provides excellent adhesion for primer.
Any time you treat bare metal with a conditioner, it will cause the primer you put on it to last much longer. The fact that this product coverts the rust, not just treat it, makes it much better than a lot of top dollar name brand products on the market.
It is one of the Hot Rod Industry's "dirty little secrets." All the pros have been using it for years! You can mostly find it at parts stores and agriculture supply stores. It is still relatively cheap right now so buy it while you can!
... im kinda curious to see the quailty of the hot rods your shop is pumpin out...post up some pics..............

Name is Chad.

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That's what I was thinking.. hmm
I wouldn't use it..

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Sorry, I didn't realize someone responded to my post.

I have a small shop so I'm not "pumping out" anything! We usually do about 3-5 cars a year and I have a waiting list time of about six months for new customers.

Here is a 55 Chevy I just finished.....



And here is an 84 Chevy truck I did ...


And here is a 47 Ford Coupe I did.......


Simply go to my website..... www.freewebs.com/ClassicMetalworks if you want to see some more of my work and more pictures of these cars.

If you have been around enough to even know someone in the resto biz, you have heard of this stuff and you know it works! Right Stuff is a Cleaning Chemical Comany the makes dozens of different industrial use products. I use it for one reason. I've been building cars for over 18 years and it works better that everything else I've used!
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... im kinda curious to see the quailty of the hot rods your shop is pumpin out...post up some pics..............

Here is a 55 Chevy I just finished.....



And here is an 84 Chevy truck I did ...


And here is a 47 Ford Coupe I did.......
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a ****ing year later????


and besides the fact that there is no fool proof way to stop/convert rust besides physically removing it...........


juddspaintballs: radio shack didn't have the pot i need and the guy there didn't know shit
flamintoad2000: i never bought pot at radio shack

juddspaintballs: called PE today
juddspaintballs: got my shit shipped for $3.95 instead of $11.35
flamintoad2000: nice!mail order pot!
juddspaintballs: yep
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a ****ing year later????


and besides the fact that there is no fool proof way to stop/convert rust besides physically removing it...........

ah but there is! you just have obviously not done the research!

Rust is a chemical compound that can easily be broken down and changed with other chemicals. De Ruster contains phosphates that do just that.
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are you an ad-bot?


juddspaintballs: radio shack didn't have the pot i need and the guy there didn't know shit
flamintoad2000: i never bought pot at radio shack

juddspaintballs: called PE today
juddspaintballs: got my shit shipped for $3.95 instead of $11.35
flamintoad2000: nice!mail order pot!
juddspaintballs: yep
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a ****ing year later????


and besides the fact that there is no fool proof way to stop/convert rust besides physically removing it...........


and yes..... a year later. no need to curse. I don't own an s10 so naturally I don't come to this site often. I have built a couple in the past (the first being 16 years ago!) so I do hit it every once in a while.
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are you an ad-bot?


not sure what an ad bot is.... so I gues I'm not one!
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****ing awesome....you know what...go blow smoke up someone's ass that doesn't know better.....

i pretty much try to totally avoid anything to do with rust...

bottom line:

you never set yourself up for failure!!!

rust=imminent failure....PERIOD!

do you go personally inspect your customers cars every year to make sure there is no blistering?....probably not.....

i mean ****......i can put down a lifetime warranty on my paint and bodywork....paint is backed by ppg,bodywork is backed by me......

i can't guarantee rust....no way!

i'm 20+years in this field and i know there are no wonder cures for anything....i'm kinda wondering if you are younger than me,ripping people off,or older than me,ripping people off??????


juddspaintballs: radio shack didn't have the pot i need and the guy there didn't know shit
flamintoad2000: i never bought pot at radio shack

juddspaintballs: called PE today
juddspaintballs: got my shit shipped for $3.95 instead of $11.35
flamintoad2000: nice!mail order pot!
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he sounds like one of those friggin infomercials you see at 3 in the morning trying to peddle a shitty "wonder" product that wont sell in stores

you cant bullshit me, rust is rust, there is no magical cure for it by slopping some concoction all over it, its deteriorated metal and is cancerous to the rest of the car if left unchecked... it MUST BE REMOVED, no ifs ands or buts

any REPUTABLE rod shop would tell you that, why do you think the good expensive shops have everything blasted and repaired?

shade tree hacks cover shit up.... real body guys fix it



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****ing awesome....you know what...go blow smoke up someone's ass that doesn't know better.....

i pretty much try to totally avoid anything to do with rust...

bottom line:

you never set yourself up for failure!!!

rust=imminent failure....PERIOD!

do you go personally inspect your customers cars every year to make sure there is no blistering?....probably not.....

i mean ****......i can put down a lifetime warranty on my paint and bodywork....paint is backed by ppg,bodywork is backed by me......

i can't guarantee rust....no way!

i'm 20+years in this field and i know there are no wonder cures for anything....i'm kinda wondering if you are younger than me,ripping people off,or older than me,ripping people off??????

Look, I dont know what you are so upset about. I'm not trying to be a know-it-all like a lot of guys on here, I just thought I would reply to a post regarding something I have experience with.

I have been using this product for years on cars that are daily drivers and on show winning hot rods. This product works whether you believe it or not!(personally I don't care)

I never implied anything negative about you and you shouldn't about me either. I have one of the best reputations in this area for the quality of my work and my honesty. I give a full guarranty on everything I do. I never said this was a wonder cure.

I actually completely media blast all of the cars I work on. Any rot I find is cut out and the metal replaced. I treat all of the blasted areas with De Ruster, not just where the rust was. I use it as more of an insurance measure than anything else. Not some "wonder cure."

I have tested it by putting it over heavy surface rust on scrap panels that were left outside. You can see the chemical reaction taking place. Just because you don't understand it does not mean it doesn't work!
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i am a 100% non beleiver in rust converting coatings......


juddspaintballs: radio shack didn't have the pot i need and the guy there didn't know shit
flamintoad2000: i never bought pot at radio shack

juddspaintballs: called PE today
juddspaintballs: got my shit shipped for $3.95 instead of $11.35
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You don't have to believe it for it to work! It is simple Phisical Sceince. Here are two very simple reasons that it works!

1. Iron Oxide (rust) is a chemical compound that needs Oxygen to continue rusting. Without Oxygen, it can't contiue rusting. This is a scientific proven fact.

2. The De Ruster is not just a coating. It converts the rust into another chemical other than Iron Oxide. Therefore the rust is REMOVED, not just COATED.

The metal is not the rust. the rust is a corrosive chemical that eats the metal. If you remove to corrosive chemical (rust) It can no longer contiue to oxidize!

I can't speak for all other rust removers and coatings because I havn't tried them. As a rule, COATINGS are going to be a short-time fix but RUST REMOVERS and going to be a permanent fix. If you remove it, it is no longer there!

I attend the Hot Rod & Restoration Trade Show in Indiana every year. This year alone there were several new products in the area of rust removal. They all have their product on display and show demonstrations of the product working at the show.

It is called technology. This isn't the dark ages. If we can put a man on the moon.....WHY CAN'T WE REMOVE RUST?
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