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Old 08-26-2008, 03:17 PM   #1
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so on my way to the first day of school, a cop pulls me over just around the corner from the school. he asks me "do you know why i pulled you over?", i replied, "i was goin 27, 28"(seed limit is 25). he said no and it was because my tail lights are illegal. he also got me with my very light tinting. i did the labor work for the tail lights and now i think it was just a waste of time. they have reverse lights, i dont see what the big deal was. Personally, i just think he had something against me because many other cops have seen them without saying anything. In fact, I drive past the police station and I work right across the street from it. What do you think? Should I try to contest it? or was all my hard work and money blown down the drain? If so, I'm planning on selling the truck. thanks.
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Re: caddy light ticket

here are some pics by the way, if i decide i want to sell.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:30 PM   #3
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Re: caddy light ticket

Where are the reverse lights? I don't see them in the pic.
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Re: caddy light ticket

he may have busted you for not being able to see the light from the side of the truck. you could put a small LED strip down the side of the light, on the side of the truck, if that would help.
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Re: caddy light ticket

It is hard to tell from that picture but they do not appear to have a reflector either... Either way it seems like the cop had something against you.
Old 08-26-2008, 04:28 PM   #6
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Re: caddy light ticket

no side markers is definately an issue. not sure on the rest of it. I wouldn't sell the truck, you could just sell the bed since the work is done and get a new bed and have cash left over.

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Yeah no kiddin just sell the bed if its goin to be that big of a deal.
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Re: caddy light ticket

research modifications and your local PD rules before doing them? other then that not much you can do but pay the ticket.
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by Prime
Where are the reverse lights? I don't see them in the pic.

the bottom half lights up a lot more when i back up. i think im gunna see if they can reason with me if i put a led strip on the side. see what happens.
Old 08-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #10
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Re: caddy light ticket

you did a mod, chances are its not legal, pay the ticket becuase ur not going to be able to get out of it
Old 08-26-2008, 09:20 PM   #11
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Re: caddy light ticket

i say he was just looking to get somebody for something. i cant see them being illegal since they are a stock taillight for another car.
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Re: caddy light ticket

just cut out the tails and put colorado buckets and lights in there......
Old 08-26-2008, 09:38 PM   #13
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by DTrickz
i say he was just looking to get somebody for something. i cant see them being illegal since they are a stock taillight for another car.

No side reflector after shaving stock s10 tails = illegal.

Caddys have side reflectors seperate from the tail = not illegal.


Throw an LED strip in the crack between your tonneau and bed, untint the tails and beg for mercy.
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Re: caddy light ticket

where are you located at what state im a state inspector in texas and if the lights are stock caddy lights with dot then theres nothing they can do, you cant see them from the side on they caddilac either, as for the side marker lights they are not mandatory unless the vehicle is 80" are wider i have same setup on my dime never any issues reverse lights are not mandatory either...

This applies to texas other states may very, but if theres caddilacs around it shouldnt be an issue id fight it

i see your plate now im not sure about calli, i would still fight it as long as the lights or D.O.T

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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by bigdaddejay
the bottom half lights up a lot more when i back up. i think im gunna see if they can reason with me if i put a led strip on the side. see what happens.

Reverse lights have to be white or clear, not red.
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Re: caddy light ticket

bro, we all go thru this shit.... GET OVER IT! if i could count how many bullshit tickets ive gotten for whatever i did to any of my cars.........well, id probably be real depressed.... but anyway..... if ur gonna sell the truck over that, than u shouldnt be touching anything on any car..... ever..... cops will right you for 80% or more, of things we "modify".... that cop was being a prick, end of story.... ive had my caddy's for 3 yrs now, and no cop has said anything less than, "nice truck", or "did you do all this yourself?".... the gain outweighs the losses imo- we do what we love because we love it.... not because its legal.... besides, none of us really do anything unsafe, just maybe bending the rules a little

p.s. im not trying to be a dick, im really not.... i just think its ridiculous that someone who put money and hard work into something would drop it like a bad habit, over a bullshit $50 ticket
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Re: caddy light ticket

50 dollar tickets add up fast
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Re: caddy light ticket

(e) Taillamps shall be red in color and shall be plainly visible from all distances within 500 feet to the rear except that taillamps on vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1969, shall be plainly visible from all distances within 1,000 feet to the rear.

Just checked the vehicle code in CA for tail lights and reverse lights. It does not say anything about reflectors on the sides of the vehicle. Fight it in court (don't be a dick about it though) and save some money for future customization.
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by Taylor1
where are you located at what state im a state inspector in texas and if the lights are stock caddy lights with dot then theres nothing they can do, you cant see them from the side on they caddilac either, as for the side marker lights they are not mandatory unless the vehicle is 80" are wider i have same setup on my dime never any issues reverse lights are not mandatory either...

This applies to texas other states may very, but if theres caddilacs around it shouldnt be an issue id fight it

i see your plate now im not sure about calli, i would still fight it as long as the lights or D.O.T
-"if the lights are stock caddy lights with dot then theres nothing they can do," that is incorrect. The DOT number is for the vehicle they were originally equiped on.

-"you cant see them from the side on they caddilac either" The Caddy lights are seperate parts acting together, the Caddys have lighted side reflectors that work with the taillights, hence why they got approved by the DOT.
-"for the side marker lights they are not mandatory unless the vehicle is 80" are wider " Wrong. Texas code 547.325 every vehicle needs reflectors and they must be visible from all sides.

See for yourself:
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes...htm#547.322.00
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by DTrickz
i say he was just looking to get somebody for something. i cant see them being illegal since they are a stock taillight for another car.
That excuse does not work. Just because one car has a certain part, that does not make it legal to use on another car.
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by bigdaddejay
so on my way to the first day of school, a cop pulls me over just around the corner from the school. he asks me "do you know why i pulled you over?", i replied, "i was goin 27, 28"(seed limit is 25). he said no and it was because my tail lights are illegal. he also got me with my very light tinting. i did the labor work for the tail lights and now i think it was just a waste of time. they have reverse lights, i dont see what the big deal was. Personally, i just think he had something against me because many other cops have seen them without saying anything. In fact, I drive past the police station and I work right across the street from it. What do you think? Should I try to contest it? or was all my hard work and money blown down the drain? If so, I'm planning on selling the truck. thanks.
You really can't contest it, your lights are illegal. The only chance you have of winning is if the judge is too lazy to pull out the laws.

If you ticket has the correctable box checked, see what the exact violation is and make/or rig up a passable working solution and get it signed off. (Like if it's for lack of reflectors, then just toss some on with doubleside tape at least to it passed)

According to CA laws:
24607. Every vehicle subject to registration under this code shall at all times be equipped with red reflectors mounted on the rear as follows:

(a) Every vehicle shall be equipped with at least one reflector so maintained as to be plainly visible at night from all distances within 350 to 100 feet from the vehicle when directly in front of the lawful upper headlamp beams.

b) Every vehicle, other than a motorcycle or a low-speed vehicle , manufactured and first registered on or after January 1, 1965, shall be equipped with at least two reflectors meeting the visibility requirements of subdivision (a),

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24607.htm



And you're not getting picked on, a lot of this Teh Lifestyle guys will cry all that Fuck the police nonsense, but the simple fact is, the cops are just doing their job. Some go after vehicle violations more than others, sometimes they are told to enforce them more. Some just don't care. It's a gamble you play when you do this mods, someone can go years with the most illegalest shlt, others get caught for little items all the time, you never know.
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by shatfacedpanda
(e) Taillamps shall be red in color and shall be plainly visible from all distances within 500 feet to the rear except that taillamps on vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1969, shall be plainly visible from all distances within 1,000 feet to the rear.

Just checked the vehicle code in CA for tail lights and reverse lights. It does not say anything about reflectors on the sides of the vehicle. Fight it in court (don't be a dick about it though) and save some money for future customization.
When you look up laws, you need to be very thorough. Some laws work in conjunction with others. Other laws that you think may be joined with together are seperate. Then there's corrections and add-ons to some laws, etc........

The reasons that there was nothing about reflectors mentioned in the taillight law is because reflectors have their very own law, as do stoplights. (see my previous post).
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Re: caddy light ticket

what section did he write you for. I work in california and know that there needs to be red reflector visible from the sides of the vehicle.



Here is a pic of the caddy and you can see a red reflector/parking light on the side.

Also did he write is as a fix-it ticket????
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by neo71665
Reverse lights have to be white or clear, not red.
What he said.
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by jwood562
what section did he write you for. I work in california and know that there needs to be red reflector visible from the sides of the vehicle.



Here is a pic of the caddy and you can see a red reflector/parking light on the side.

Also did he write is as a fix-it ticket????
no he didnt, the box on the side was not checked.
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by the way i live in california
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by 96blazer
When you look up laws, you need to be very thorough. Some laws work in conjunction with others. Other laws that you think may be joined with together are seperate. Then there's corrections and add-ons to some laws, etc........

The reasons that there was nothing about reflectors mentioned in the taillight law is because reflectors have their very own law, as do stoplights. (see my previous post).
I did look through the CA laws thorough, I just didnt want to post 2 pages up . This should get thrown out in court if you play your cards right.
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Quote: Originally Posted by shatfacedpanda
I did look through the CA laws thorough, I just didnt want to post 2 pages up . This should get thrown out in court if you play your cards right.
If you did thorougly look up the laws, you would not have posted the incorrect information, or gave, and even in this post, given misguided advice.
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Re: caddy light ticket

Quote: Originally Posted by 96blazer
That excuse does not work. Just because one car has a certain part, that does not make it legal to use on another car.
exactly.....you can be ticketed for any modification you do your vehicle.......there are laws already written,they don't make them up.......

even if some s10s came with rollpans and yours did not but you put one on,if they want to run the vin and check for that option and it was not sold with that option,they can give you a ticket........

clear corners,hids,bags,lowering,relocating license plates,shaving 3rd brake light,shaving door handles......they are all illegal mods,any cop in any state can pull you over for those mods...........



learn the laws before you mod and be prepared to get a ticket......i still wait for the day that i get pulled over for my clear corners up front...and that's the only mod on my truck that i can get popped for.....
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[quote=paint toad;5531124]learn the laws before you mod and be prepared to get a ticketquote]

I agree. Its that not that to do certain mods and get away with it though. It depends how "extreme" you go. I went through inspection with my "cleared" Sonoma head