Project projector... (HID)

***orangesonoma*** · 08-09-2005, 06:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ozwald

Thanks for the diagram!

Here's some options that I've found (aside from buying/modifying the OEM mounting covers <link>):
- Encapsulate it in a generic $3 ABS box, easily obtainable from an electronic component store. The bottom can be left open. This will simulate the protection the LVQ-212 gets in an OEM application. It will be water proof from above. Ballast vent has free air passage down the sides of ballast.
- Dip entire ballast with cables connected in Plasti Dip. Use paint tape to cover vent between the 12V power plug and high voltage wire during dipping. It must not be blocked under normal operation. Components inside creates some heat and without a vent a pressure buildup and condensation might occur.
- If you do not have the time for any of examples above, mount ballast vertically with connectors facing down.

http://faqlight.carpassion.info/

-Kevin

i would love to see my HID guys face when i try to return a bad ballast with that plastic shit dripped all over the ballast and connectors......lol

s10cyncrvr · 08-09-2005, 11:43 PM

I think I have the water issue solved. Took a plastic tray out of one of my parts bins and cut it up to fit around the ballast. About 1/4 of the bottom is open so it should be enough to vent.

rordway1 · 08-10-2005, 12:09 AM

wow, thats clean...nice work

about time that tray did something useful :-)

Mr Bravada · 08-10-2005, 03:14 AM

i dig that tray idea it looks pretty clean too..... did you get the covers/mounts from hidplanet? or did you forgo those for a water friendly instal?

Licht · 08-10-2005, 10:45 AM

looks awesome.

s10cyncrvr · 08-10-2005, 10:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Bravada

i dig that tray idea it looks pretty clean too..... did you get the covers/mounts from hidplanet? or did you forgo those for a water friendly instal?

The kit I purchased included the black plastic covers. I think combining those with the clear covers should keep them dry.

BIGGERISBETTER · 08-10-2005, 11:50 AM

I hope i have this kind of patience and attention to detail when i start puttin the bags on this winter. I tend to rush myself.... you on the other hand come out w/ a great looking mod every time. Cant wait to see em mounted

Ozwald · 08-11-2005, 04:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr

Wiring
$ 4.38 - (2) 12VDC Bosch Relays - www.parts-express.com #330-070
$ 3.00 - (2) 12VDC 5-Pin Relay Socket - www.parts-express.com #330-075
$ 5.70 - (6) Pioneer 12 Ga. In-line Fuseholder - www.parts-express.com #079-040
$ 6.75 - (1) 9005 Male Connector (12 Ga. Leads) - www.rallylights.com CP9005CM
$ 6.75 - (1) 9006 Male Connector (12 Ga. Leads) - www.rallylights.com CP9006CM
$ 16.50 - (2) 9005 Replacement Connector (12 Ga. Leads) - www.rallylights.com CP9005CF
$ 0.89 - (1) 1N4005 Diodes - www.radioshack.com #276-1104

$ 0.99 - (1) 2.2K 1/2W Resistors - www.radioshack.com #271-1121

$ 1.99 - (4) Male Splice Connectors - AutoZone
$ 4.99 - (4) Female Splice Connectors - AutoZone
$ 9.99 - (1) Battery Terminal Ring Connector - AutoZone
$ 1.75 - (1) 3/8" 10' Wire Loom - AutoZone

Aight, sorry for the nOOb question but what are the resistors for? I didn't see them on either diagram. Did you use them? If so where do they go?

Thanks,
-Kevin

s10cyncrvr · 08-11-2005, 07:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ozwald

Aight, sorry for the nOOb question but what are the resistors for? I didn't see them on either diagram. Did you use them? If so where do they go?

Thanks,
-Kevin

I used a resistor to plug into the Automatic Headlamp Sensor in order to disable it. That way the headlights won't come on automatically everytime it is dark. There is a sticky at the top of the electrical forum showing how to do it.

Mr Bravada · 08-12-2005, 10:38 PM

yea it looks like i am going the same route you did, its my winter project.... so i'll be goin from the blue ebay hids to the fo-sho hella bright valeo projectors.... sweeeet!! Great job though, i'll probably copy the ballast holder idea from you.... it gets mad wet up here when the snow thaws.....

s10cyncrvr · 08-12-2005, 11:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Bravada

yea it looks like i am going the same route you did, its my winter project.... so i'll be goin from the blue ebay hids to the fo-sho hella bright valeo projectors.... sweeeet!! Great job though, i'll probably copy the ballast holder idea from you.... it gets mad wet up here when the snow thaws.....

Cool. I'd like to see how other people do these in different styles of headlight buckets.

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I got everything put back together yesterday and tried them out last night, and I didn't like it. One of the projectors was a couple of degrees off and the flare from the ECE cut-off shields was too high. I was worried about blinding people to the right of me. So I tore both headlights back apart and rotated the one projector a bit and used some aluminum tape to flatten my cut-off line. I am much happier with the results I got tonight. Onto the pics...

I used my 97 S-10 truck for the "stock lighting" pics since it still has the factory lighting on it. All of the following pics were with the camera on a tripod in the same position. The vehicles were parked in the same position as well.

Stock lighting - Low Beams

HID lighting - Low Beams

Stock lighting - High Beams

HID lighting - High Beams

Stock lighting - Low Beams

HID lighting - Low Beams

Stock lighting - High Beams

HID lighting - High Beams

Overall I am quite happy with the new lighting. Is it worth the money for most people, probably not. But it does offer a huge increase in visibility and a touch of class for trucks that are at the bottom of the price range. I am extremely pleased at the output of the HIR bulbs that I used for the high-beams. These things put out an amazing amount of light in a reflector housing. The only downfall is they still have the yellowish-white color of a halogen bulb.

BIGGERISBETTER · 08-17-2005, 04:53 PM

holy shit thats bright! wow. haha!

Ozwald · 08-17-2005, 05:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr

HID lighting - Low Beams

I love the cut-off!

-Kevin

99ZR2 · 08-17-2005, 05:03 PM

looks good..lots of light!

bristol16 · 08-17-2005, 05:59 PM

nice job man. i love the results!

-Tucker- · 08-25-2005, 11:37 PM

It kinda looks like the ballast accepts the 9006 plug, is that true?

s10cyncrvr · 08-26-2005, 12:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by -Tucker-

It kinda looks like the ballast accepts the 9006 plug, is that true?

Yes, it is a 9006 plug.

-Tucker- · 08-26-2005, 12:10 AM

Good Deal. I'm starting up the Wiring harness as soon as I receive the parts I ordered today. I'll have some time between now and HID, so it's good news that I can use the 9006 without having to fab it again later.

***orangesonoma*** · 08-26-2005, 09:27 AM

looks good..i still have no idea how you keep your wheels so pretty!

s10cyncrvr · 08-26-2005, 04:28 PM

So far this year...

***orangesonoma*** · 08-26-2005, 04:30 PM

you went tru 4 cans...damn...and you do it all by hand...no wheel right?

s10cyncrvr · 08-26-2005, 04:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by orangesonoma

you went tru 4 cans...damn...and you do it all by hand...no wheel right?

I do the backs of the wheels with the powerball but all front surfaces are done by hand. I try and do them every two weeks during the warm months.

DNGRS DME · 08-27-2005, 12:03 AM

Jebus, that's like $50 worth of polish!

The HIDs look awesome!

Did you have any problems aiming them?

s10cyncrvr · 08-27-2005, 02:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DNGRS DME

Jebus, that's like $50 worth of polish!

The HIDs look awesome!

Did you have any problems aiming them?

The one headlight housing is still a little crooked(where the bracket meets the housing). Cheap Taiwann parts. I have to re-attach and straighten that out but aiming them was a breeze. As long as the projector is sitting squarely in the housing, they can be adjusted with the factory screws.

The rule of thumb is that from 25 feet away, the top of the cut-off line should be 2" below the height of the projector.

norcalx · 09-02-2005, 02:37 AM

Dude, you've just blown me away with this thread. My hat is off to you sir. What an amazing job you did on this project. I wish I had the time, and the patience to do a fab like this. I also wish someone would market a kit, complete, for our trucks.

In any event, I just wanted to recognize you for this. Great job!

Will

Mr Bravada · 09-02-2005, 04:12 AM

once again looks great man, the cut-off was awesome.... thats what i'll be shooting for when i get back from my cruise in october

s10cyncrvr · 09-17-2005, 10:57 AM

Thanks guys. I just picked up some more parts to do a fog light set-up in my bumper. A Bosch Projector (early-00 BMW's) and 3000K Phillips bulbs. This time around I'll have to make a housing for the projector to sit in so it should be more informative to GMC owners who don't have a projector housing available like the 98-up S-10's.

It'll be a couple of weeks before I start on it but I hooked everything up to make sure it all works. Took a few pics...

***orangesonoma*** · 09-17-2005, 11:11 AM

yellow??

i love me some yellow fog lights....

looks good man...

WTRacing · 09-17-2005, 12:44 PM

SWEEt, cant wait to see how it turns out

WTRacing · 09-17-2005, 12:49 PM

ive got a 97 s-10 wit the blazer (compostie) lights, do that make anything to do it "right" without a projector or do i have to run a projector to make it look right?

08-09-2005, 06:25 PM	#101
*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,737 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by Ozwald Thanks for the diagram! Here's some options that I've found (aside from buying/modifying the OEM mounting covers <link>): - Encapsulate it in a generic $3 ABS box, easily obtainable from an electronic component store. The bottom can be left open. This will simulate the protection the LVQ-212 gets in an OEM application. It will be water proof from above. Ballast vent has free air passage down the sides of ballast. - Dip entire ballast with cables connected in Plasti Dip. Use paint tape to cover vent between the 12V power plug and high voltage wire during dipping. It must not be blocked under normal operation. Components inside creates some heat and without a vent a pressure buildup and condensation might occur. - If you do not have the time for any of examples above, mount ballast vertically with connectors facing down. http://faqlight.carpassion.info/ -Kevin i would love to see my HID guys face when i try to return a bad ballast with that plastic shit dripped all over the ballast and connectors......lol
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08-09-2005, 11:43 PM	#102
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) I think I have the water issue solved. Took a plastic tray out of one of my parts bins and cut it up to fit around the ballast. About 1/4 of the bottom is open so it should be enough to vent.
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08-10-2005, 12:09 AM	#103
rordway1 Entrepeneur Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,141 Location: Chicago User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) wow, thats clean...nice work about time that tray did something useful :-)
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08-10-2005, 03:14 AM	#104
Mr Bravada graduated!!!! Age: 26 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,039 Location: Anchorage Ak User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) i dig that tray idea it looks pretty clean too..... did you get the covers/mounts from hidplanet? or did you forgo those for a water friendly instal?
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08-10-2005, 10:45 AM	#105
Licht FULL THROTTLE Age: 23 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 365 Location: Clinton Township/Midland MI User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) looks awesome.
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08-10-2005, 10:54 AM	#106
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Bravada i dig that tray idea it looks pretty clean too..... did you get the covers/mounts from hidplanet? or did you forgo those for a water friendly instal? The kit I purchased included the black plastic covers. I think combining those with the clear covers should keep them dry.
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08-10-2005, 11:50 AM	#107
BIGGERISBETTER flat blue and layin frame Age: 24 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,884 Location: Bolivar, Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) I hope i have this kind of patience and attention to detail when i start puttin the bags on this winter. I tend to rush myself.... you on the other hand come out w/ a great looking mod every time. Cant wait to see em mounted
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08-11-2005, 04:42 PM	#108
Ozwald I got nothing... Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 395 Location: Glen Burnie, MD User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr Wiring $ 4.38 - (2) 12VDC Bosch Relays - www.parts-express.com #330-070 $ 3.00 - (2) 12VDC 5-Pin Relay Socket - www.parts-express.com #330-075 $ 5.70 - (6) Pioneer 12 Ga. In-line Fuseholder - www.parts-express.com #079-040 $ 6.75 - (1) 9005 Male Connector (12 Ga. Leads) - www.rallylights.com CP9005CM $ 6.75 - (1) 9006 Male Connector (12 Ga. Leads) - www.rallylights.com CP9006CM $ 16.50 - (2) 9005 Replacement Connector (12 Ga. Leads) - www.rallylights.com CP9005CF $ 0.89 - (1) 1N4005 Diodes - www.radioshack.com #276-1104 $ 0.99 - (1) 2.2K 1/2W Resistors - www.radioshack.com #271-1121 $ 1.99 - (4) Male Splice Connectors - AutoZone $ 4.99 - (4) Female Splice Connectors - AutoZone $ 9.99 - (1) Battery Terminal Ring Connector - AutoZone $ 1.75 - (1) 3/8" 10' Wire Loom - AutoZone Aight, sorry for the nOOb question but what are the resistors for? I didn't see them on either diagram. Did you use them? If so where do they go? Thanks, -Kevin
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08-11-2005, 07:00 PM	#109
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by Ozwald Aight, sorry for the nOOb question but what are the resistors for? I didn't see them on either diagram. Did you use them? If so where do they go? Thanks, -Kevin I used a resistor to plug into the Automatic Headlamp Sensor in order to disable it. That way the headlights won't come on automatically everytime it is dark. There is a sticky at the top of the electrical forum showing how to do it.
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08-12-2005, 10:38 PM	#110
Mr Bravada graduated!!!! Age: 26 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,039 Location: Anchorage Ak User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) yea it looks like i am going the same route you did, its my winter project.... so i'll be goin from the blue ebay hids to the fo-sho hella bright valeo projectors.... sweeeet!! Great job though, i'll probably copy the ballast holder idea from you.... it gets mad wet up here when the snow thaws.....
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08-12-2005, 11:48 PM	#111
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Bravada yea it looks like i am going the same route you did, its my winter project.... so i'll be goin from the blue ebay hids to the fo-sho hella bright valeo projectors.... sweeeet!! Great job though, i'll probably copy the ballast holder idea from you.... it gets mad wet up here when the snow thaws..... Cool. I'd like to see how other people do these in different styles of headlight buckets. ------------------------------------------------ I got everything put back together yesterday and tried them out last night, and I didn't like it. One of the projectors was a couple of degrees off and the flare from the ECE cut-off shields was too high. I was worried about blinding people to the right of me. So I tore both headlights back apart and rotated the one projector a bit and used some aluminum tape to flatten my cut-off line. I am much happier with the results I got tonight. Onto the pics... I used my 97 S-10 truck for the "stock lighting" pics since it still has the factory lighting on it. All of the following pics were with the camera on a tripod in the same position. The vehicles were parked in the same position as well. Stock lighting - Low Beams HID lighting - Low Beams Stock lighting - High Beams HID lighting - High Beams Stock lighting - Low Beams HID lighting - Low Beams Stock lighting - High Beams HID lighting - High Beams Overall I am quite happy with the new lighting. Is it worth the money for most people, probably not. But it does offer a huge increase in visibility and a touch of class for trucks that are at the bottom of the price range. I am extremely pleased at the output of the HIR bulbs that I used for the high-beams. These things put out an amazing amount of light in a reflector housing. The only downfall is they still have the yellowish-white color of a halogen bulb.
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08-17-2005, 04:53 PM	#112
BIGGERISBETTER flat blue and layin frame Age: 24 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,884 Location: Bolivar, Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) holy shit thats bright! wow. haha!
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08-17-2005, 05:00 PM	#113
Ozwald I got nothing... Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 395 Location: Glen Burnie, MD User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr HID lighting - Low Beams I love the cut-off! -Kevin
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08-17-2005, 05:03 PM	#114
99ZR2 <Insert Title Here> Age: 23 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 534 Location: Dallas, Tx User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) looks good..lots of light!
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08-17-2005, 05:59 PM	#115
bristol16 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,854 Location: Greensboro, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) nice job man. i love the results!
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08-25-2005, 11:37 PM	#116
-Tucker- Tucker is mah name Age: 27 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 732 Location: Racine, WI User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) It kinda looks like the ballast accepts the 9006 plug, is that true?
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08-26-2005, 12:02 AM	#117
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by -Tucker- It kinda looks like the ballast accepts the 9006 plug, is that true? Yes, it is a 9006 plug.
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08-26-2005, 12:10 AM	#118
-Tucker- Tucker is mah name Age: 27 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 732 Location: Racine, WI User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Good Deal. I'm starting up the Wiring harness as soon as I receive the parts I ordered today. I'll have some time between now and HID, so it's good news that I can use the 9006 without having to fab it again later.
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08-26-2005, 09:27 AM	#119
*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,737 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) looks good..i still have no idea how you keep your wheels so pretty!
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08-26-2005, 04:28 PM	#120
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) So far this year...
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08-26-2005, 04:30 PM	#121
*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,737 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) you went tru 4 cans...damn...and you do it all by hand...no wheel right?
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08-26-2005, 04:39 PM	#122
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by orangesonoma you went tru 4 cans...damn...and you do it all by hand...no wheel right? I do the backs of the wheels with the powerball but all front surfaces are done by hand. I try and do them every two weeks during the warm months.
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08-27-2005, 12:03 AM	#123
DNGRS DME Baby Blue > Joo Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 706 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Jebus, that's like $50 worth of polish! The HIDs look awesome! Did you have any problems aiming them?
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08-27-2005, 02:27 AM	#124
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Quote: Originally Posted by DNGRS DME Jebus, that's like $50 worth of polish! The HIDs look awesome! Did you have any problems aiming them? The one headlight housing is still a little crooked(where the bracket meets the housing). Cheap Taiwann parts. I have to re-attach and straighten that out but aiming them was a breeze. As long as the projector is sitting squarely in the housing, they can be adjusted with the factory screws. The rule of thumb is that from 25 feet away, the top of the cut-off line should be 2" below the height of the projector.
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09-02-2005, 02:37 AM	#125
norcalx Your mom goes to college! Age: 25 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 144 Location: San Fran User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Dude, you've just blown me away with this thread. My hat is off to you sir. What an amazing job you did on this project. I wish I had the time, and the patience to do a fab like this. I also wish someone would market a kit, complete, for our trucks. In any event, I just wanted to recognize you for this. Great job! Will
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09-02-2005, 04:12 AM	#126
Mr Bravada graduated!!!! Age: 26 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,039 Location: Anchorage Ak User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) once again looks great man, the cut-off was awesome.... thats what i'll be shooting for when i get back from my cruise in october
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09-17-2005, 10:57 AM	#127
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) Thanks guys. I just picked up some more parts to do a fog light set-up in my bumper. A Bosch Projector (early-00 BMW's) and 3000K Phillips bulbs. This time around I'll have to make a housing for the projector to sit in so it should be more informative to GMC owners who don't have a projector housing available like the 98-up S-10's. It'll be a couple of weeks before I start on it but I hooked everything up to make sure it all works. Took a few pics...
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09-17-2005, 11:11 AM	#128
*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,737 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) yellow?? i love me some yellow fog lights.... looks good man...
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09-17-2005, 12:44 PM	#129
WTRacing 2high & 2slow Age: 22 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,571 Location: Memphis TN (Lakeland) User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) SWEEt, cant wait to see how it turns out
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09-17-2005, 12:49 PM	#130
WTRacing 2high & 2slow Age: 22 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,571 Location: Memphis TN (Lakeland) User is: OffLine	Re: Project projector... (HID) ive got a 97 s-10 wit the blazer (compostie) lights, do that make anything to do it "right" without a projector or do i have to run a projector to make it look right?
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