Just bought HID conversion

super slw 01 · 10-28-2009, 09:12 PM

I just bought these!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Does anyone else on here use them? And quick question: Do I have to upgrade my wiring to bigger wire to use HIDs or is stock fine?

heeter_33 · 10-28-2009, 09:44 PM

wire size should be fine, you'll want to run a relay in there though.

super slw 01 · 10-28-2009, 09:49 PM

Ok thank you. deathpheonix99 is coming to my house to help me install them.

I got the 10000K bulbs BTW.

ruubzs10blazer · 10-29-2009, 12:18 AM

using the relay is the only way to get them working properly, check out mine on my '91 s10 blazer. 8k blue

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raven2510 · 10-29-2009, 12:41 AM

you should get a HID relay harness...

and im not even going there on those color temps

super slw 01 · 10-29-2009, 09:21 AM

^What's wrong with the 10000K? My best friend has 12000K on his chevy and they are great. NOT trying to start a war over color temps just wondering. I know they don't have as much light output at the 6000K or 8000K but they are still better than halogen.

walker01s10 · 10-29-2009, 12:11 PM

Your just a purple kinda guy aren't ya.

J/King

leroyme · 10-29-2009, 12:31 PM

I prefer the stock Envoy HIDs... Whatever color temp they are.

super slw 01 · 10-29-2009, 12:39 PM

10K isn't even purple it's a deep blue. My friend has 12K hids and they are not purple at all.

walker01s10 · 10-29-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by leroyme

I prefer the stock Envoy HIDs... Whatever color temp they are.

Stock Envoy HID's are around 4500K

Dr.pRymer · 10-29-2009, 01:18 PM

Good luck seeing at night. my buddy has 10000k on his truck and you cant barely see anything on the road. put his next to mine with 6000k and its a world of difference

walker01s10 · 10-29-2009, 01:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by super slw 01

10K isn't even purple it's a deep blue. My friend has 12K hids and they are not purple at all.

Guess it depends on who you buy from most of the time the 10K are a light purple and 12k is purple.

super slw 01 · 10-29-2009, 02:03 PM

Can I just buy the 8K or 6K bulbs and put them on my truck? If i'm not happy with the 10K.

super slw 01 · 10-29-2009, 09:47 PM

Well instead of using the stock small wire for my HIDs I bought this relay harness!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160346417602&viewitem= &sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

lee-mill · 10-29-2009, 09:50 PM

pft i got 12k in my subie and its sweet as hell. i can see fine and they are super bright, plus the color goes good with the hunter green

super slw 01 · 10-29-2009, 09:53 PM

Are the 12K bulbs purple? Or a deep blue?

lee-mill · 10-29-2009, 09:54 PM

theyre supposed to be more of a purple, but mine look more blue, i was kinda pissed when i got them but i didnt feel like waiting to get another set, i like them now

super slw 01 · 10-29-2009, 10:15 PM

Ok so I guess if the 12K is more blue than purple, the 10K should be a nice deep blue.

lee-mill · 10-29-2009, 10:16 PM

yea you should be good with the 10k

super slw 01 · 10-29-2009, 10:22 PM

^Thanks can't wait to get them installed!!!!!!

BoSoxFanSims34 · 10-30-2009, 04:59 PM

can someone explain to me why he needs to a relay? i have HIDs without a relay and havent had a problem. im just wondering because ive seen people say that you need to have one and i dont understand why.

leroyme · 10-30-2009, 06:23 PM

I believe the original purpose of the relay was to use the stock truck wiring to trip the relay, and have a larger wire (or maybe just a separate wire straight from the fuse block or battery), because the HID's draw a TON of amperage when igniting. They use less amperage when they're lit for a while, but too much for our systems to handle when they ignite. I didn't run a relay for a few months, and I had a really close call. My passenger side light would always flicker for a minute before the light would turn on, unless you flashed the brights. That's because the stock wiring couldn't handle both headlights igniting at the same time. If I flashed the brights, it gave the charging system a chance to catch up for a second, then it would be fine. Anyways, my lights ended up blowing both left and right side headlight fuses! It took me a little while to figure out, because I didn't know there were separate fuses for each side! Anyways, I ran relays to each headlight, and now both ignite immediately, with no flickering whatsoever! There is a HUGE difference of response time on them! After they are turned on, they ignite and warm up immediately!

BoSoxFanSims34 · 10-30-2009, 06:28 PM

thank you for the good explanation.

leroyme · 10-31-2009, 12:19 AM

You're quite welcome, sir.

super slw 01 · 11-02-2009, 09:24 PM

Ok well I got my HID kit from China today (DHL=fast shipping)!! Now all I need is the relay harness and i'll be ready to install them! If I wear rubber gloves, can I touch the bulbs without damaging them? Also where does everyone mount the ballasts?

super slw 01 · 11-03-2009, 01:39 PM

I'm getting the relay harness today so my dad and I will put them on...
Will the rubber gloves be okay for touching the bulbs?
And where is the best place to mount each ballast?

travy · 11-03-2009, 01:47 PM

You can get away with not touching the bulbs at all would be best.

Put them in the headlights first so they are out of the way and not pron to get touched or broke.

Mount the ballast some place where it won't get water on it.

super slw 01 · 11-03-2009, 02:02 PM

Ok i'll wear the gloves and put them in the headlights right away. I'll look around my engine bay and try to find a good spot where they won't get hot and won't get water on them. What about mounting them in the inner/outer core support or even in the bumper if the wires are long enough?

deathphoenix99 · 11-03-2009, 02:12 PM

I have ballasts mounted in the bumper, grille, and core support. I have 3 sets of HID's on my truck. IF you still need help, I'm always free after 4.

oldskoolchevelle · 11-03-2009, 03:02 PM

Hey deathphoenix99 i also live in houston, tx. can you point the right way towards an HID kit for a 97 s10. Im not sure what exactly to look for since its a sealed beam type. Thanks

deathphoenix99 · 11-03-2009, 03:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by oldskoolchevelle

Hey deathphoenix99 i also live in houston, tx. can you point the right way towards an HID kit for a 97 s10. Im not sure what exactly to look for since its a sealed beam type. Thanks

First you have to buy 4x6 Conversion housings, around $30. Then I bought the pnp HID kit from Ebay for $100 shipped. But it has high beams and low beams using a tilt motor on the HID's.

I bought mine from

Seller
flashplus
vvmecom@gmail.com

You can buy HID's for $60 if you don't want the high beams. Personally, I wanted it. As for the housings, the housings i have are way better than stock or the previous conversion housings. But I had to do minimal trimming to get them to fit. Although, it was simple to do with a dremel.

PM me for more info as this isn't our thread.

super slw 01 · 11-03-2009, 08:09 PM

I mounted my ballasts in the very top of the bumper so I didn't have to drill any holes for the bolts. It's dark here now and oh my god!! These are soo sick!! My dad has silverstar bulbs on his 98 Z71 and we compared them and the hids are so much better.

I had to go buy some battery terminal things tho so I could bolt on the relay to the battery. Other than that, EASY install only took like an hour. BUT now my speedo is pinned at 100mph??? All my other guages work perfectly but the speedo will not move..Anyone know what could have happened?

Next mod: Sport mirrors then a DROP.

super slw 01 · 11-03-2009, 09:08 PM

Nevermind about the speedo I drove my truck about 1/4 mile and it started working. After driving I am so happy I bought these! So much farther and wider it's amazing.

10-28-2009, 09:12 PM	#1
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Just bought HID conversion I just bought these!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT Does anyone else on here use them? And quick question: Do I have to upgrade my wiring to bigger wire to use HIDs or is stock fine?
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10-28-2009, 09:44 PM	#2
heeter_33 Registered User Age: 19 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 812 Location: Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion wire size should be fine, you'll want to run a relay in there though.
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10-28-2009, 09:49 PM	#3
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Ok thank you. deathpheonix99 is coming to my house to help me install them. I got the 10000K bulbs BTW.
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10-29-2009, 12:18 AM	#4
ruubzs10blazer Registered User Age: 33 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 Location: LAS VEGAS User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion using the relay is the only way to get them working properly, check out mine on my '91 s10 blazer. 8k blue <a
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10-29-2009, 12:41 AM	#5
raven2510 Overhead Console Expert Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,631 Location: Omaha, Nebraska User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion you should get a HID relay harness... and im not even going there on those color temps
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10-29-2009, 09:21 AM	#6
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion ^What's wrong with the 10000K? My best friend has 12000K on his chevy and they are great. NOT trying to start a war over color temps just wondering. I know they don't have as much light output at the 6000K or 8000K but they are still better than halogen.
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10-29-2009, 12:11 PM	#7
walker01s10 Po Po Age: 35 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 263 Location: BIG--D User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Your just a purple kinda guy aren't ya. J/King
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10-29-2009, 12:31 PM	#8
leroyme Half-Bagged for now Age: 29 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,632 Location: Wichita, KS User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion I prefer the stock Envoy HIDs... Whatever color temp they are.
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10-29-2009, 12:39 PM	#9
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion 10K isn't even purple it's a deep blue. My friend has 12K hids and they are not purple at all.
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10-29-2009, 01:13 PM	#10
walker01s10 Po Po Age: 35 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 263 Location: BIG--D User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Quote: Originally Posted by leroyme I prefer the stock Envoy HIDs... Whatever color temp they are. Stock Envoy HID's are around 4500K
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10-29-2009, 01:18 PM	#11
Dr.pRymer Proud Of My Zuki Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,465 Location: Latrobe PA User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Good luck seeing at night. my buddy has 10000k on his truck and you cant barely see anything on the road. put his next to mine with 6000k and its a world of difference
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10-29-2009, 01:32 PM	#12
walker01s10 Po Po Age: 35 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 263 Location: BIG--D User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Quote: Originally Posted by super slw 01 10K isn't even purple it's a deep blue. My friend has 12K hids and they are not purple at all. Guess it depends on who you buy from most of the time the 10K are a light purple and 12k is purple.
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10-29-2009, 02:03 PM	#13
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Can I just buy the 8K or 6K bulbs and put them on my truck? If i'm not happy with the 10K.
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10-29-2009, 09:47 PM	#14
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Well instead of using the stock small wire for my HIDs I bought this relay harness!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160346417602&viewitem= &sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
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10-29-2009, 09:50 PM	#15
lee-mill where's my chippy? Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,846 Location: staatsburg, ny User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion pft i got 12k in my subie and its sweet as hell. i can see fine and they are super bright, plus the color goes good with the hunter green
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10-29-2009, 09:53 PM	#16
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Are the 12K bulbs purple? Or a deep blue?
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10-29-2009, 09:54 PM	#17
lee-mill where's my chippy? Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,846 Location: staatsburg, ny User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion theyre supposed to be more of a purple, but mine look more blue, i was kinda pissed when i got them but i didnt feel like waiting to get another set, i like them now
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10-29-2009, 10:15 PM	#18
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Ok so I guess if the 12K is more blue than purple, the 10K should be a nice deep blue.
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10-29-2009, 10:16 PM	#19
lee-mill where's my chippy? Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,846 Location: staatsburg, ny User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion yea you should be good with the 10k
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10-29-2009, 10:22 PM	#20
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion ^Thanks can't wait to get them installed!!!!!!
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10-30-2009, 04:59 PM	#21
BoSoxFanSims34 Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 357 Location: Bradley IL User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion can someone explain to me why he needs to a relay? i have HIDs without a relay and havent had a problem. im just wondering because ive seen people say that you need to have one and i dont understand why.
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10-30-2009, 06:23 PM	#22
leroyme Half-Bagged for now Age: 29 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,632 Location: Wichita, KS User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion I believe the original purpose of the relay was to use the stock truck wiring to trip the relay, and have a larger wire (or maybe just a separate wire straight from the fuse block or battery), because the HID's draw a TON of amperage when igniting. They use less amperage when they're lit for a while, but too much for our systems to handle when they ignite. I didn't run a relay for a few months, and I had a really close call. My passenger side light would always flicker for a minute before the light would turn on, unless you flashed the brights. That's because the stock wiring couldn't handle both headlights igniting at the same time. If I flashed the brights, it gave the charging system a chance to catch up for a second, then it would be fine. Anyways, my lights ended up blowing both left and right side headlight fuses! It took me a little while to figure out, because I didn't know there were separate fuses for each side! Anyways, I ran relays to each headlight, and now both ignite immediately, with no flickering whatsoever! There is a HUGE difference of response time on them! After they are turned on, they ignite and warm up immediately!
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10-30-2009, 06:28 PM	#23
BoSoxFanSims34 Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 357 Location: Bradley IL User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion thank you for the good explanation.
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10-31-2009, 12:19 AM	#24
leroyme Half-Bagged for now Age: 29 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,632 Location: Wichita, KS User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion You're quite welcome, sir.
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11-02-2009, 09:24 PM	#25
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Ok well I got my HID kit from China today (DHL=fast shipping)!! Now all I need is the relay harness and i'll be ready to install them! If I wear rubber gloves, can I touch the bulbs without damaging them? Also where does everyone mount the ballasts?
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11-03-2009, 01:39 PM	#26
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion I'm getting the relay harness today so my dad and I will put them on... Will the rubber gloves be okay for touching the bulbs? And where is the best place to mount each ballast?
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11-03-2009, 01:47 PM	#27
travy Megabyte Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,658 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: Online	Re: Just bought HID conversion You can get away with not touching the bulbs at all would be best. Put them in the headlights first so they are out of the way and not pron to get touched or broke. Mount the ballast some place where it won't get water on it.
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11-03-2009, 02:02 PM	#28
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Ok i'll wear the gloves and put them in the headlights right away. I'll look around my engine bay and try to find a good spot where they won't get hot and won't get water on them. What about mounting them in the inner/outer core support or even in the bumper if the wires are long enough?
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11-03-2009, 02:12 PM	#29
deathphoenix99 94 2.2, feel the power? Age: 19 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,003 Location: Houston, TX User is: Online	Re: Just bought HID conversion I have ballasts mounted in the bumper, grille, and core support. I have 3 sets of HID's on my truck. IF you still need help, I'm always free after 4.
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11-03-2009, 03:02 PM	#30
oldskoolchevelle in the works Age: 20 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 231 Location: Houston, Tx User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Hey deathphoenix99 i also live in houston, tx. can you point the right way towards an HID kit for a 97 s10. Im not sure what exactly to look for since its a sealed beam type. Thanks
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11-03-2009, 03:07 PM	#31
deathphoenix99 94 2.2, feel the power? Age: 19 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,003 Location: Houston, TX User is: Online	Re: Just bought HID conversion Quote: Originally Posted by oldskoolchevelle Hey deathphoenix99 i also live in houston, tx. can you point the right way towards an HID kit for a 97 s10. Im not sure what exactly to look for since its a sealed beam type. Thanks First you have to buy 4x6 Conversion housings, around $30. Then I bought the pnp HID kit from Ebay for $100 shipped. But it has high beams and low beams using a tilt motor on the HID's. I bought mine from Seller flashplus vvmecom@gmail.com You can buy HID's for $60 if you don't want the high beams. Personally, I wanted it. As for the housings, the housings i have are way better than stock or the previous conversion housings. But I had to do minimal trimming to get them to fit. Although, it was simple to do with a dremel. PM me for more info as this isn't our thread. Last edited by deathphoenix99 : 11-03-2009 at 03:09 PM.
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11-03-2009, 08:09 PM	#32
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion I mounted my ballasts in the very top of the bumper so I didn't have to drill any holes for the bolts. It's dark here now and oh my god!! These are soo sick!! My dad has silverstar bulbs on his 98 Z71 and we compared them and the hids are so much better. I had to go buy some battery terminal things tho so I could bolt on the relay to the battery. Other than that, EASY install only took like an hour. BUT now my speedo is pinned at 100mph??? All my other guages work perfectly but the speedo will not move..Anyone know what could have happened? Next mod: Sport mirrors then a DROP. Last edited by super slw 01 : 11-03-2009 at 08:11 PM.
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11-03-2009, 09:08 PM	#33
super slw 01 n00b Age: 16 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 208 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Just bought HID conversion Nevermind about the speedo I drove my truck about 1/4 mile and it started working. After driving I am so happy I bought these! So much farther and wider it's amazing.
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