changing mileage on cluster.

David12460 · 01-23-2007, 11:59 AM

i have a cluster without a tach, so i bought one with a tach. the mileage will be off on it now, once i install it. I know the dealers can change it back, and was wondering if anyone has done this before, and what they would charge? i have yet to call them and ask. I have a 2000 s-10.

xloud9t5gmcsuvx · 01-23-2007, 12:02 PM

do it, and the vehical will not have any value. They will have to change the mileage on the title to unknown value and you will have no resale on the truck. You could have put 500k on it and switch it n it say theres only 100k on the truck. I would not recomend this.

mister880 · 01-23-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by xloud9t5gmcsuvx

do it, and the vehical will not have any value. They will have to change the mileage on the title to unknown value and you will have no resale on the truck. You could have put 500k on it and switch it n it say theres only 100k on the truck. I would not recomend this.

even if he bought a cluster and wants it to match the mileage that is on his original cluster?

that's what he's getting at here..

i do know changing the mileage on the truck and the original cluster would be illegal.

David12460 · 01-23-2007, 12:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mister880

even if he bought a cluster and wants it to match the mileage that is on his original cluster?

that's what he's getting at here..

i do know changing the mileage on the truck and the original cluster would be illegal.

Yeah i want the actual mileage. im not trying to lower it or anything. i know the dealers can do it becasue what would they do if/when they replaced the clusters for problems.

mister880 · 01-23-2007, 12:09 PM

yeah. i got what your saying.. i'd just cal them up and see what they would charge.

goddspring · 01-23-2007, 12:14 PM

i had to do this in my girls civic, i bought a cluster that had less miles. my cousin works at a dealership in brooklyn park and asked the title person there what to do. she told me keep the reciet from the one i bought and on their write the mileage of the one coming out and the one going in. and if you can keep the old one to show if you ever sell it. also if your truck is old enough when you sell, it might not matter. hope that helps

bladehines · 01-23-2007, 12:21 PM

doesn't the truck have electonic gauges? mine reads digital, so it's controlled by the computer even if i unplug my gauges my computer still picks up the mileage

David12460 · 01-23-2007, 12:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines

doesn't the truck have electonic gauges? mine reads digital, so it's controlled by the computer even if i unplug my gauges my computer still picks up the mileage

yeah but i believe the mileage is stored in the gauge itself. i could be wrong but ill find out when i plug her in.

bladehines · 01-23-2007, 12:30 PM

you may be right, but i thought the computer stored it???

David12460 · 01-23-2007, 12:47 PM

maybe someone who has done this will come thru the thread and shed some light?

goddspring · 01-23-2007, 12:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by David12460

maybe someone who has done this will come thru the thread and shed some light?

just call a dealership they will help ya for free.

David12460 · 01-23-2007, 01:00 PM

i talked to two dealerships and they said it was illegal to change the mileage on a cluster. but its not illegal to have a cluster in a car with the wrong mileage. WTF

goddspring · 01-23-2007, 01:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by David12460

i talked to two dealerships and they said it was illegal to change the mileage on a cluster. but its not illegal to have a cluster in a car with the wrong mileage. WTF

yeah it dont make sence. how much of a differnce in mileage is there. cause the person i talked too also said that its not much, who cares, no one will ever know...haha there is like 8000 some less on the one i put in, but for a car with 150,000 something anyways, i dont think it really does matter.

trav_19 · 01-23-2007, 01:21 PM

i know its stored in the computer on silverado's with the electronic ...99+ style...a buddie had a lease and was close to going over and unpluged his dash it still registered it all...

and i thought it would be illegal to change a clusters milage regardless if its up or down...and unknown miles on a title sucks if you want a tach get a external there more accurate anyways and your dash will remain factory...better resale becasue you can just take the other tach out if you want.

and i dont know about the dash your asking it is electronic or the roller style...i think if the newer ones are rolled back they have white dashes that drop between to the numbers to show fraud...i wouldn't mess with it

klensdime · 01-23-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines

doesn't the truck have electonic gauges? mine reads digital, so it's controlled by the computer even if i unplug my gauges my computer still picks up the mileage

i know if you disconnect the plug on the tranny it will STOP reading the milage untill its plugged back in. found that out when i chaged my clutch/ring gear. i have a 98 2.2 BTW... my speedo stoped working and it may or may not have thrown a code, i dont remember.

xloud9t5gmcsuvx · 01-23-2007, 03:06 PM

wait your right. i wasnt thinkin right.

sorry.

aircrewman · 01-23-2007, 08:25 PM

go to the junk yard find a low mileage computer, and plug it into your truck, if you wanna be sneaky about it. but if you're playing by the rules then the computer controls the mileage not gauge cluster. I think that's the reason they went to electronic gauge cluster's so people don't just put a different cluster in and go, computers are alot more expensive.....

Criticalbeatdown95s · 01-23-2007, 08:30 PM

Same thing here. The truck has an original 133,000 but i swapped for a tach with 177,000

corner27 · 01-24-2007, 04:30 PM

from what I know, it is not illegal to change the milage on a cluster, the part that is illegal is to misrepresent the milage of a car. so as long as it's accurate it should be fine, that's what I was told here in canada anyways

ageranger · 01-28-2007, 10:37 PM

i had to change the cluster on my truck. i got a new one from the dealer because it was under warenty. but when the dealer does it they have to put a sticker in the door jamb that states the odometer has been replaced and at what mileage. it is one of those tamper proof stickers that leaves some kind of sign it has been tampered with if you try to remove it or mess with it. see if the dealer can just reset that gauge you got to zero and put the sticker in the door so you wont be breaking any laws or anything

tg900 · 07-02-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by corner27

from what I know, it is not illegal to change the milage on a cluster, the part that is illegal is to misrepresent the milage of a car. so as long as it's accurate it should be fine, that's what I was told here in canada anyways

well put....after a bunch of posts i think that explains it the best

I went to the dealer...I asked them if i could bring them a cluster, or if they ordered a cluster, if they can match the mileage. They said no and they gave me all the legalities. They said if i bring a cluster, I can have them install it and install a sticker on the doorjamb. And if I order a cluster from their outsourced company, they all start at zero, and they won't match the mileage of the truck, so they'll put it on the doorjamb also.

I still want to find someone that will match a cluster to my mileage. The state keeps mileage records with the yearly inspection. With 215K on it, I'm not trying to pick up any value at all. The truck is worth next to beans as far as resale value goes. I just want a seamless transition to a better cluster.

ChrisInVT · 07-02-2008, 12:03 PM

If it's not digital, all you have to do is disassemble the cluster to get the mileage counter. I've done this about 4 times in my various Luminas' when I upgraded from the junk 85MPH speedo with idiot lights gauge cluster to the Euro 115mph cluster with tach and water/volt/oil guages. It's tedious, but not bad.

Speedy2222 · 07-02-2008, 12:19 PM

when my truck had 150k on it i put a cluster with a tach in it that read 196k... now it reads over 200k :-D lol

comics22 · 07-03-2008, 06:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT

If it's not digital, all you have to do is disassemble the cluster to get the mileage counter. I've done this about 4 times in my various Luminas' when I upgraded from the junk 85MPH speedo with idiot lights gauge cluster to the Euro 115mph cluster with tach and water/volt/oil guages. It's tedious, but not bad.

hehe yea same here, not hard but can easily break stuff it u dunno what ur doing

01-23-2007, 11:59 AM	#1
David12460 AKA DavidAndSomeNumbers Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,841 Location: Minnesota User is: OffLine	changing mileage on cluster. i have a cluster without a tach, so i bought one with a tach. the mileage will be off on it now, once i install it. I know the dealers can change it back, and was wondering if anyone has done this before, and what they would charge? i have yet to call them and ask. I have a 2000 s-10.
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01-23-2007, 12:02 PM	#2
xloud9t5gmcsuvx Neighborhood Dragger Age: 21 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,229 Location: Cleveland User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. do it, and the vehical will not have any value. They will have to change the mileage on the title to unknown value and you will have no resale on the truck. You could have put 500k on it and switch it n it say theres only 100k on the truck. I would not recomend this.
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01-23-2007, 12:04 PM	#3
mister880 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,694 Location: St Marys County, MD User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Quote: Originally Posted by xloud9t5gmcsuvx do it, and the vehical will not have any value. They will have to change the mileage on the title to unknown value and you will have no resale on the truck. You could have put 500k on it and switch it n it say theres only 100k on the truck. I would not recomend this. even if he bought a cluster and wants it to match the mileage that is on his original cluster? that's what he's getting at here.. i do know changing the mileage on the truck and the original cluster would be illegal.
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01-23-2007, 12:08 PM	#4
David12460 AKA DavidAndSomeNumbers Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,841 Location: Minnesota User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Quote: Originally Posted by mister880 even if he bought a cluster and wants it to match the mileage that is on his original cluster? that's what he's getting at here.. i do know changing the mileage on the truck and the original cluster would be illegal. Yeah i want the actual mileage. im not trying to lower it or anything. i know the dealers can do it becasue what would they do if/when they replaced the clusters for problems.
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01-23-2007, 12:09 PM	#5
mister880 Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,694 Location: St Marys County, MD User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. yeah. i got what your saying.. i'd just cal them up and see what they would charge.
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01-23-2007, 12:14 PM	#6
goddspring Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,127 Location: staples, mn User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. i had to do this in my girls civic, i bought a cluster that had less miles. my cousin works at a dealership in brooklyn park and asked the title person there what to do. she told me keep the reciet from the one i bought and on their write the mileage of the one coming out and the one going in. and if you can keep the old one to show if you ever sell it. also if your truck is old enough when you sell, it might not matter. hope that helps
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01-23-2007, 12:21 PM	#7
bladehines ASASN8 Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,617 Location: Bowling Green, KY User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. doesn't the truck have electonic gauges? mine reads digital, so it's controlled by the computer even if i unplug my gauges my computer still picks up the mileage
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01-23-2007, 12:25 PM	#8
David12460 AKA DavidAndSomeNumbers Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,841 Location: Minnesota User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines doesn't the truck have electonic gauges? mine reads digital, so it's controlled by the computer even if i unplug my gauges my computer still picks up the mileage yeah but i believe the mileage is stored in the gauge itself. i could be wrong but ill find out when i plug her in. Last edited by David12460 : 01-23-2007 at 12:46 PM.
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01-23-2007, 12:30 PM	#9
bladehines ASASN8 Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,617 Location: Bowling Green, KY User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. you may be right, but i thought the computer stored it???
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01-23-2007, 12:47 PM	#10
David12460 AKA DavidAndSomeNumbers Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,841 Location: Minnesota User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. maybe someone who has done this will come thru the thread and shed some light?
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01-23-2007, 12:49 PM	#11
goddspring Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,127 Location: staples, mn User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Quote: Originally Posted by David12460 maybe someone who has done this will come thru the thread and shed some light? just call a dealership they will help ya for free.
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01-23-2007, 01:00 PM	#12
David12460 AKA DavidAndSomeNumbers Age: 21 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,841 Location: Minnesota User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. i talked to two dealerships and they said it was illegal to change the mileage on a cluster. but its not illegal to have a cluster in a car with the wrong mileage. WTF
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01-23-2007, 01:07 PM	#13
goddspring Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,127 Location: staples, mn User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Quote: Originally Posted by David12460 i talked to two dealerships and they said it was illegal to change the mileage on a cluster. but its not illegal to have a cluster in a car with the wrong mileage. WTF yeah it dont make sence. how much of a differnce in mileage is there. cause the person i talked too also said that its not much, who cares, no one will ever know...haha there is like 8000 some less on the one i put in, but for a car with 150,000 something anyways, i dont think it really does matter.
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01-23-2007, 01:21 PM	#14
trav_19 S10-LESS!!!! Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 167 Location: Jackson, MI User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. i know its stored in the computer on silverado's with the electronic ...99+ style...a buddie had a lease and was close to going over and unpluged his dash it still registered it all... and i thought it would be illegal to change a clusters milage regardless if its up or down...and unknown miles on a title sucks if you want a tach get a external there more accurate anyways and your dash will remain factory...better resale becasue you can just take the other tach out if you want. and i dont know about the dash your asking it is electronic or the roller style...i think if the newer ones are rolled back they have white dashes that drop between to the numbers to show fraud...i wouldn't mess with it
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01-23-2007, 02:34 PM	#15
klensdime Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 951 Location: Kutztown, East Burg User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines doesn't the truck have electonic gauges? mine reads digital, so it's controlled by the computer even if i unplug my gauges my computer still picks up the mileage i know if you disconnect the plug on the tranny it will STOP reading the milage untill its plugged back in. found that out when i chaged my clutch/ring gear. i have a 98 2.2 BTW... my speedo stoped working and it may or may not have thrown a code, i dont remember.
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01-23-2007, 03:06 PM	#16
xloud9t5gmcsuvx Neighborhood Dragger Age: 21 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,229 Location: Cleveland User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. wait your right. i wasnt thinkin right. sorry.
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aircrewman AM1 (AW/NAC) P-3's Age: 31 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 514 Location: Orange park, FL User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. go to the junk yard find a low mileage computer, and plug it into your truck, if you wanna be sneaky about it. but if you're playing by the rules then the computer controls the mileage not gauge cluster. I think that's the reason they went to electronic gauge cluster's so people don't just put a different cluster in and go, computers are alot more expensive.....
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01-23-2007, 08:30 PM	#18
Criticalbeatdown95s Productive Member Age: 29 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,915 Location: Allover, MI User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Same thing here. The truck has an original 133,000 but i swapped for a tach with 177,000
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01-24-2007, 04:30 PM	#19
corner27 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 124 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. from what I know, it is not illegal to change the milage on a cluster, the part that is illegal is to misrepresent the milage of a car. so as long as it's accurate it should be fine, that's what I was told here in canada anyways
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01-28-2007, 10:37 PM	#20
ageranger DINSTAAR Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35 Location: North Carolina, Pope AFB User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. i had to change the cluster on my truck. i got a new one from the dealer because it was under warenty. but when the dealer does it they have to put a sticker in the door jamb that states the odometer has been replaced and at what mileage. it is one of those tamper proof stickers that leaves some kind of sign it has been tampered with if you try to remove it or mess with it. see if the dealer can just reset that gauge you got to zero and put the sticker in the door so you wont be breaking any laws or anything
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07-02-2008, 10:38 AM	#21
tg900 Dialed! Age: 21 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 554 Location: PA User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Quote: Originally Posted by corner27 from what I know, it is not illegal to change the milage on a cluster, the part that is illegal is to misrepresent the milage of a car. so as long as it's accurate it should be fine, that's what I was told here in canada anyways well put....after a bunch of posts i think that explains it the best I went to the dealer...I asked them if i could bring them a cluster, or if they ordered a cluster, if they can match the mileage. They said no and they gave me all the legalities. They said if i bring a cluster, I can have them install it and install a sticker on the doorjamb. And if I order a cluster from their outsourced company, they all start at zero, and they won't match the mileage of the truck, so they'll put it on the doorjamb also. I still want to find someone that will match a cluster to my mileage. The state keeps mileage records with the yearly inspection. With 215K on it, I'm not trying to pick up any value at all. The truck is worth next to beans as far as resale value goes. I just want a seamless transition to a better cluster.
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07-02-2008, 12:03 PM	#22
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 25 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,460 Location: The Woods, VT User is: Online	Re: changing mileage on cluster. If it's not digital, all you have to do is disassemble the cluster to get the mileage counter. I've done this about 4 times in my various Luminas' when I upgraded from the junk 85MPH speedo with idiot lights gauge cluster to the Euro 115mph cluster with tach and water/volt/oil guages. It's tedious, but not bad.
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07-02-2008, 12:19 PM	#23
Speedy2222 I lead the blind Age: 19 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,558 Location: Kouts, IN User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. when my truck had 150k on it i put a cluster with a tach in it that read 196k... now it reads over 200k :-D lol
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07-03-2008, 06:27 PM	#24
comics22 Pac is a hackin! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,361 Location: Middle of freakin IL User is: OffLine	Re: changing mileage on cluster. Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT If it's not digital, all you have to do is disassemble the cluster to get the mileage counter. I've done this about 4 times in my various Luminas' when I upgraded from the junk 85MPH speedo with idiot lights gauge cluster to the Euro 115mph cluster with tach and water/volt/oil guages. It's tedious, but not bad. hehe yea same here, not hard but can easily break stuff it u dunno what ur doing
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