Ahl/drl ?

NickZigaitis · 07-22-2005, 12:31 PM

Okay, Now I'm seriously baffled. I have a 2000 xtreme 2.2. I pulled the fuse and bent pin 86 like instructed. Didn't do anything for me. Started bending over additional pins testing each one one by one and nothing. Took the whole damn relay out and nothing. The only way to turn them off on mine was to press the done over-ride 4 time. Now I can understand the dome over-ride by why the hell did the lights even work (i mean worked completely normal with regular lights and brights when activated) when I pulled the whole DRL relay out of the fuse box? tell me someone has an answer for that.

aGMguy · 07-22-2005, 05:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NickZigaitis

Okay, Now I'm seriously baffled. I have a 2000 xtreme 2.2. I pulled the fuse and bent pin 86 like instructed. Didn't do anything for me. Started bending over additional pins testing each one one by one and nothing. Took the whole damn relay out and nothing. The only way to turn them off on mine was to press the done over-ride 4 time. Now I can understand the dome over-ride by why the hell did the lights even work (i mean worked completely normal with regular lights and brights when activated) when I pulled the whole DRL relay out of the fuse box? tell me someone has an answer for that.

magic elves

GiveMeBreak · 08-21-2005, 12:19 AM

My 1998 2WD S-10 was a horse of a different color.

A ZR2 member had added some posts for his 2003. I used some of his info and other info and combined it works!

Mine has DRL's on the High beams.
Also I did not bend the prong on the DRL Relay in the fuse panel under the hood as some of you must do.

This is what I did for my vehicle specifically.

DRL Disable (without doing quad beams)
There is a shunt jumper (looks like a fuse but black with an arrow) in the fuse panel under the hood. It is locatated to the right of the DRL relay in there. Simply pull that for DRL to be disabled.

Quad Beam with DRL Disable
(Keep the Shunt Jumper as described above off.)
You will follow these steps for a relay installation. Minus the ground wire to (86).
http://www.fmtc.com/~brule/quad.html

The other relay trigger contact (86) must go to the high beam negative (purple wire) and NOT to ground.

The high beam positive wire is hot even when the high beams are off. This causes the quadbeam relay, if wired as described in the above link, to supply ground to the low beam at all times, defeating the DRL mod. The high beam switch passes ground to the high beam negative wire. For this reason, you want your quadbeam relay switched the same way i.e. both highbeam wires are used to trigger the relay.

I now have DRL's off and Quadbeams!

low.x.2k · 10-17-2005, 01:43 PM

i have a 2000 s10 xtreme with the 2.2L and manual transmission. i recently installed hids for my low-beams and the drl's (day-time running lights) were making my hids come on during the day, which is pointless. all i had to do to make them stay off unless i turn them on manually, is to get under the hood, open up the fuse relay panel on the right-middle side of the engine compartment, and pull the large relay (looks like a big black fuse) that is labeled as DRL on the under-side of the fuse panel lid. my low-beams, high-beams, and fogs all work fine using this process. i hope this is helpful to somebody.

digital_xtreme · 10-17-2005, 04:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by low.x.2k

i have a 2000 s10 xtreme with the 2.2L and manual transmission. i recently installed hids for my low-beams and the drl's (day-time running lights) were making my hids come on during the day, which is pointless. all i had to do to make them stay off unless i turn them on manually, is to get under the hood, open up the fuse relay panel on the right-middle side of the engine compartment, and pull the large relay (looks like a big black fuse) that is labeled as DRL on the under-side of the fuse panel lid. my low-beams, high-beams, and fogs all work fine using this process. i hope this is helpful to somebody.

Yup did the same thing, it's better to disable anything that makes your headlights come on automatically when running HID's to help prevent problems and help the bulbs last longer.

oks10 · 12-07-2005, 11:01 PM

do quadbeams really make much of a difference? im thinking about doing this because theres no lights on the highway here and night driving sucks. i got some 40 dollar driving lights from walmart but they dont help with seeing whats coming up. and does anyone have photos of the difference?

Lenny95NeoN · 12-13-2005, 05:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by oks10

do quadbeams really make much of a difference? im thinking about doing this because theres no lights on the highway here and night driving sucks. i got some 40 dollar driving lights from walmart but they dont help with seeing whats coming up. and does anyone have photos of the difference?

Well you could just see for yourself. Just pull the highbeam switch toward you. This should make all 4 come on. You may have to try it twice. IMO it fills in the area closer to the vehicle. If You like the difference. then you could do the mod or have someone do it for you.

Lenny95NeoN · 12-13-2005, 06:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Nefarious

Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN
Is there anyway to make the AHL more sensitive? (not activate lights till it gets darker)? I plan on having the front window tinted, and I dont want my low beams on all the time. I went thru this w/ a Grand Prix and I had to mount the sensor right up against the glass. I might just relocate it alltogether..

I'm in the same situation, but what I found out is that you can not make it more sensitive since it's just a photo cell sensor. Your best bet is to either relocate it or disable it all together and manually turn your lights on.

I disabled the ahl and began to miss it. Now I will just put a simple on/off switch inline w/ the resistor. This way I can just hit the button once when I want to turn the ahl off. Instead of pushing the other button 4 times and listening for the ding that I can't hear over the radio. State troopers don't seem to like the idea of me having blue L.E.D.s in place of DRL's. Sometimes I need to turn them off in a hurry.

greencactus3 · 12-13-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN

I disabled the ahl and began to miss it. Now I will just put a simple on/off switch inline w/ the resistor. This way I can just hit the button once when I want to turn the ahl off. Instead of pushing the other button 4 times and listening for the ding that I can't hear over the radio. State troopers don't seem to like the idea of me having blue L.E.D.s in place of DRL's. Sometimes I need to turn them off in a hurry.

inline with the resistor? you mean with the sensor thing? and inline works? wouldnt you want a 2way switch with one circuit the resistor and the other the sensor?

Lenny95NeoN · 12-13-2005, 09:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

inline with the resistor? you mean with the sensor thing? and inline works? wouldnt you want a 2way switch with one circuit the resistor and the other the sensor?

Lemme clear this up
I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor.
Switch off = ahl will operate lights amount of sunlight read by sensor
Switch on = ahl thinks its dark

greencactus3 · 12-13-2005, 10:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN

Lemme clear this up
I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor.
Switch off = ahl will operate lights amount of sunlight read by sensor
Switch on = ahl thinks its dark

okay. because i wanna do the same thing. is this waht you are saying?
but wait. if the AHL thinks its dark when you have the switch "on", wouldnt the headlights turn on? itll ignore that it is lightoutside and will turn on the headlights. is that waht you want? i want a switch to be able to turn off my lights. to basically disable AHL with a switch. so will my idea of a 2way switch work better? or did you just word it wrong and confuse me?

greencactus3 · 12-13-2005, 10:37 PM

my idea diagram

Lenny95NeoN · 12-14-2005, 12:14 AM

Yeah, I worded it wrong. it should have read this way.

Lemme clear this up
I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor.
Switch off = ahl will operate lights dependant on amount of light read by sensor
Switch on = ahl thinks its Daytime

Should work either way. I just want to run a simle on/off push button switch.

Only problem for you w/ this set up is that it will turn on the DRL's unless you do something like the "relay mod", or completely rewire your highbeams like I did.
My high-beams run off of a relay triggered by the drivers-side factory high-beam wiring. And the lights I have for DRL's run off of a relay triggered by the Passengers-side factory high-beam wiring.

greencactus3 · 12-14-2005, 07:03 PM

ahh yes okay. i have done the relay DRL mod already.. so im fine there. whenever im not lazy ill try it. oh waht ohm resistor was it? sorry im lazy to scrolll up to suwhere in the sticky..

oks10 · 12-14-2005, 08:34 PM

anybody have picture of their quadbeams and maybe a better pic of the wiring than on the link that GiveMeBreak posted???

BLACKBOWTIESS10 · 01-11-2006, 03:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by johnster0228

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DISABLE THESE FEATURES? Just curious because I like the idea of having the DRL and not hving to worry about manually turning the Headlights on. JUST WONDERING WHY YOU GUYS ARE DOIN IN!!!

I know I don't like seeing them on in the reflections of other cars. I disabled my fathers full size 97 with a simple fuse pull but my 01 I can't. Also, when you are sitting in a parking lot with the engine running I don't want my lights on, or backing my trailer into the water I don't want my trailer lights on. There are many reasons different people will have for doing this. I can't stand sitting at a light in the shade and having my lights come on for no reason, then go back out once I'm moving again. It's a govermental control thing, I don't want them on but they are trying there best to make me have them. I want nothing to work unless I tell them to.

I will do the AHL mod and DRL but I don't yet see a correct way to do it on a 2001. I will try pulling the fuse first, then bending the tabs. Using the dome override over and over is not a smart thing, I want my lights off but am not willing to ruin my botton.

BLACKBOWTIESS10 · 01-11-2006, 03:29 PM

that and I have tinted windows that make the lights come on rediculously often

Lenny95NeoN · 01-12-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKBOWTIESS10

that and I have tinted windows that make the lights come on rediculously often

Imagine if your windshield was tinted. Try m mod and U can have more control over your lights. If U cacn find the proper female head light adapters, like the ones that come w/ projecter headlights, U dont have to cut any factory wiring. Well except the ahl sensor.

Your lights should not be coming on in the shade at stop lights. unless u are sitting in shade for a good while. Mine would come on after about 45 seconds at hiway speeds when I go through the tunnels, but it would take as long as 4 min's( it seems) when sitting still. Kinda like the turn signal chime. I think there is some type of time/distance algorythm programmed in for those idiot features.

BLACKBOWTIESS10 · 01-13-2006, 12:25 AM

my front window is tinted lol. And it does like to come on whenever it is slighly darker than light out. Sucks, I will have to try the sensor and fuse mod.

Lenny95NeoN · 01-13-2006, 10:35 AM

Either that or just relocate it to a place where it's not behind tint... Like by the vin # But there should be a photosensor that will send the correct resistance at when it senses a lower level of light. We already know the light turn n resistance. We just need a sensor that has an adjustable sensitivity settings....

JamieZ · 01-22-2006, 09:06 PM

What pin do I bend over if my relay is labeled 1-5. I'm confused.

Lenny95NeoN · 01-24-2006, 11:00 AM

I will soon control my driving light with the same circuit that controls my DRL's. When the DRL's are off the driving lights are on and vice versa. The only exception is when the truck is not running no lights will be on.

stalephotograph · 02-16-2006, 02:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by JamieZ

What pin do I bend over if my relay is labeled 1-5. I'm confused.

my exact thoughts. no one has yet to answer this and i need to know. mine are labled 1-5 as well, no 87a or 86 lables. please help us who are in need.

stalephotograph · 02-16-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by stalephotograph

my exact thoughts. no one has yet to answer this and i need to know. mine are labled 1-5 as well, no 87a or 86 lables. please help us who are in need.

ok never mind i figured it out. instead of pulling the relay and bending a prong....i took out the black fuse w/ a white marking on top, over to the right of the drl relay. everything works fine.

greencactus3 · 02-25-2006, 10:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN

Yeah, I worded it wrong. it should have read this way.

Lemme clear this up
I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor.
Switch off = ahl will operate lights dependant on amount of light read by sensor
Switch on = ahl thinks its Daytime

Should work either way. I just want to run a simle on/off push button switch.

Only problem for you w/ this set up is that it will turn on the DRL's unless you do something like the "relay mod", or completely rewire your highbeams like I did.
My high-beams run off of a relay triggered by the drivers-side factory high-beam wiring. And the lights I have for DRL's run off of a relay triggered by the Passengers-side factory high-beam wiring.

i finally pulledthis off. looks factory and its nice to be able to turn it off. i like it.

stickersmc · 04-28-2006, 06:53 PM

For those of you with a 99 S10, and similar I'm sure, here's what we've got illustrated for you to accomplish getting rid of the DRL's and AHL's.

DRL = Daytime Running Lights (when your vehicle's running, they're your bright lights... dimmed down for safe driving)
AHL = Automatic Head Lights (automatically turn your lights on when it's a certain darkness outside)

You're probably in the same boat as me, and couldn't find a response to the relay labeled with 1 2 3 4 5, instead of the 87a and such. Here's your answers... with pictures!

This is where your under-hood fuse block should be located:

Look on the fuse block key for the DRL Relay, as shown here:

It's the mid-sized black cube shown here:

It might take a minute to work it out of the slots, but a little back and forth action should get it out in a minute's time.

Don't just pull the relay and leave it out, or one of your highbeams won't work, as shown here:

Once you've got the relay pulled out... bend "pin number 5" over like the picture, and replace the relay back in the fuse block. We ended up cutting ours completely off, but just bend it over first, and make sure everything else is working correctly. Then you can cut it off if you want.

You're done canceling out your DRL's!!! (Daytime Running Lights)

As for your AHL's (Automatic Head Lights), remove your passenger side speaker grill. Remove the plug from the light sensor (the little bubble shape sticking through the grill), and stick a 2.2 ohm - 1/2 watt resistor into both sides of the plug, like the picture below. After you're done with that. Tape up the resistor onto the plug, so it doesn't touch anything in your dash, and you're done. AHL's are now removed as well!

Hope this helps some of you out. I was kind of in the dark myself, since all the years differ so much, but hopefully this will get you thru souch a simple process. Anyone can accomplish this with very little mechanical/electrical knowledge... and feel like you've actually got to do some work on your own truck instead of all the mechanics. And... it only cost's about 50 cents for the resistors from Radio Shack, like "y2k xtreme" mentioned earlier in the post.

Peace out guys!!!
StickersMC

Lenny95NeoN · 05-10-2006, 01:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3

i finally pulledthis off. looks factory and its nice to be able to turn it off. i like it.

Cool, Guess I'll get around to doing a few things while the truck is down. It's a lot easier when it's not your daily driver anymore.

digital_xtreme · 05-16-2006, 01:36 PM

It's a good idea to do this mod if you are running HID's, hell any kind of bulb... the more use the bulbs have the less they will last. I always think it's stupid how the vehicles coming off the lot are setup to run HID's on at all times... it just decreases the performance of the HID bulbs as well as the life.

Drjeffro · 05-18-2006, 09:37 AM

OK, I have an '01 Sonoma Highrider and I want to disable the DRLs. I tried bending just the 86 pin, then I tried bending all the pins except the 87a and 30 pins. Nothing has worked. When I put it in gear (automatic) the DRLs come on. What am I missing?

BLACKBOWTIESS10 · 05-18-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Drjeffro

OK, I have an '01 Sonoma Highrider and I want to disable the DRLs. I tried bending just the 86 pin, then I tried bending all the pins except the 87a and 30 pins. Nothing has worked. When I put it in gear (automatic) the DRLs come on. What am I missing?

Did you do the work when the truck was running or on? Cause you ot to do it with everything off. If the fuse is still good try bending only number 87 and putting it back in. BUTBUTBUTBUT try all pins except 87 and 30 when the truck is off. ONLY if that doesn't work try pin 87, that's what I did and it worked.

Drjeffro · 05-18-2006, 08:21 PM

I did all the work with the truck off. Right now all the pins are bent over except 87a and 30 and they still work just the same. So, you are saying to bend everything over except pin number 87 or to leave them all straight except 87 (have 87 bent over)?

Drjeffro · 05-29-2006, 12:42 AM

Now I did the quadbeam mod. My DRLs are on the lowbeams. That works fine. I also got the relay from under the carpet, cut the center yellow wire and installed a toggle switch. However my DRLs are still on. I'm thinking that they are now grounding through the Quadbeam ground.
So, how can I get around this?

BLACKBOWTIESS10 · 05-30-2006, 03:15 AM

bend or cut number 87 only
I went out and bought a new fuse to see if leaving numbers 87a and 30 in tact would make any difference, it worked. I dunno, but both methods of cutting pin 87 and leaving both pins 87a and 30 have worked for me.

hamagc · 06-02-2006, 04:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by y2k xtreme

they will not make a difference power wise....

*note: the following works on 99+ s-10/sonoma/blazer/jimmy*

<center>DRL</center>
<center>Daytime Running Lights</center>

there are two ways to do this. either way, DO NOT MODIFY PINS 87A OR 30!!

first, remove the cover off the fuse block in the engine bay. locate the relay for DRL, then do one of the following.....

1.) bend one of the prongs up and reinstall the relay.
2.) cut the other three prongs out and reinstall the relay.

once relay is installed, be sure to double check your highbeams, make sure both work. those are contolled by pins 87a and 30. that is why it is critical not to modify those two pins.

<center>AHL</center>
<center>Automatic Head Lights</center>

you will need a 2.2K Ohm 1/2 Watt resistor. these can be found at Radio Shack for about 50 cents for a pack of 5.

remove passenger side speaker grill on dash. unplug wire from the light sensor (little ball sticking up from the grill). insert resister into plug, and use a zip tie to strap the plug down to the dash. reinstall grill.

*note: the following works on 98 s-10/sonoma/blazer/jimmy*

<center>DRL</center>
<center>Daytime Running Lights</center>

there are two ways to do this. either way, DO NOT MODIFY PINS 87A OR 30!!

first, remove the cover off the fuse block in the engine bay. locate the relay for DRL, then do one of the following.....

1.) bend one of the prongs up and reinstall the relay.
2.) cut the other three prongs out and reinstall the relay.

once relay is installed, be sure to double check your highbeams, make sure both work. those are contolled by pins 87a and 30. that is why it is critical not to modify those two pins.

<center>AHL</center>
<center>Automatic Head Lights</center>

you will need a 680 Ohm 1/2 Watt resistor. these can be found at Radio Shack for about 50 cents for a pack of 5.

remove passenger side speaker grill on dash. unplug wire from the light sensor (little ball sticking up from the grill). insert resister into plug, and use a zip tie to strap the plug down to the dash. reinstall grill.

Worked like a charm on my 02, i bent up pin #86 and reinserted the rest of the pins, no more DRL! my high beams still work, and the AHL comes on when i cover up the sensor. uncover the sensor and the lights turn off completely. personally i think it just looks better, i wanted to rid myself of the drl but i need to keep the ahl. hope this helps someone.

Tat2Dragons · 06-11-2006, 02:44 PM

I did both of those mods the other day,works great.

I don't think either of these mods could have been any easier,actually I think my dog could do these mods.

Thanks for posting this info.

Drjeffro · 06-15-2006, 10:45 PM

I got the DRL mod and Quadbeam mod both to work. My DRL's were on the lowbeams. I tried grounding them for the quadbeams, which worked and cut the wire on the relay under the carpet. However, the quadbeam ground negated the cut relay and the DRLs were still on.

So I ran the quadbeam ground through the firewall, grounded it to a bolt by the e-brake, then to a switch and left the relay cut. Now with the switch I can turn the quadbems and DRLs on and off and it works perfect as do my AHLs.

Skeeter51 · 06-26-2006, 02:13 AM

Ok I am sure everyone is tired of threads about DRL's but I cant get mine to turn off on my '01 xtreme. I pulled the drl relay out and bent 86, reinstalled it and drl's still turned on. I tried bending all of the tabs except 87a and 30, the drl's still came on. I pulled the relay out completely and it still came on. I kno there are two sticky's on this subject, but there was another guy havin the same exact problem as me with this and no one ever answered. I know i am pullin out the correct relay, what am i doing wrong?

BLACKBOWTIESS10 · 06-26-2006, 04:54 AM

bend 87, try it. Mine has 87 cut off, works. It seems tho with some trucks they might have wired them different, which doesn't make any sense. But it seems if you do anyting to the fuse the DRLs turn off. lol

Skeeter51 · 06-26-2006, 11:14 AM

I have tried bending 87 as well, no luck tho. Is there a fuse that i can pull for the DRL's?

Skeeter51 · 06-26-2006, 12:00 PM

Should my lights come on at all when I pull out the relay?

Drjeffro · 06-26-2006, 08:07 PM

Along with this thread, I also used these

http://www.higherpowered.net/zr2/docs/drl2.html

http://www.fmtc.com/~brule/quad.html

And mine work fine. I did the DRL and Quadbeam together. By cutting the wire that goes to the relay ubder the carpet by the brake pedal the DRLs were gone. But when I hooked up the ground for the quadbeams, the DRLs came back on. So I ran the wire from the headlight through the firewall and to a switch, then grounded it to a bolt by the e-brake. That way I can turn the Quadbeams and DRLs off and on. It is flawless.

Skeeter51 · 06-27-2006, 12:57 AM

some of those directions are confusing. Do you just cut the yellow wire by the brake pedal and install a switch for the DRL's?

Drjeffro · 06-27-2006, 07:37 AM

If you JUST cut the yellow wire by the brake pedal, the DRLs are gone. If you want them to work sometimes you could install a switch inline with the cut wire.

If you JUST want Quadbeams when your highbeams are on and your DRLs normally activate the low beams, all you need to do is tap into the 1 wire behind the headlight and run it to ground. If your DRLs are on your high beams, then you need to do some resistors.

I wanted all four headlights on when I turned my high beams on as well as the DRLs gone. So I tapped into the wire behind the headlight and ran it through the firewall and plugged it into a toggle switch, then from the switch I ran a wire to a bolt by the e-brake pedal for ground. Then I pulled the carpet up, found the relay, and cut the wire. Now with the switch on, my DRLs work like normal and I have all four headlights on with my high beams, with it off, no DRLs and just the highbeam bulbs when I turn the highbeams on.

AHLs do not bother me, so I have left them alone. I hope this helps.

Skeeter51 · 06-27-2006, 11:23 AM

thats great, thanks

Drjeffro · 06-27-2006, 09:19 PM

Let me know if it all works out. If not, we'll see what we can come up with.

Skeeter51 · 06-28-2006, 09:19 PM

I cant seem to find that relay, are the ZR2's gonna be different at all?

Skeeter51 · 06-29-2006, 08:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Drjeffro

If you JUST cut the yellow wire by the brake pedal, the DRLs are gone. If you want them to work sometimes you could install a switch inline with the cut wire.

I found the relay, and all the wires coming out of it are black...

adams96 · 01-21-2007, 08:23 AM

ok here is what i did and it only took like three min on my 96 s10 i opened the fuse box took all of my shi* out of it and found a relay access door pop it off and there are 3 small relays and one big relay in there i took the small one on the very right out and cut pin #1 off and replaced the relay and bam no more DRL

Swift12 · 01-21-2007, 03:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by low_eskimo

I'm not sure which year S10 you have but to disable your daytime running lights you do not have to cut, bend, or splice any thing if you have a newer S10 made in the US. If it was made in Canada the tip I am about to give you may not work....

If you have the type of light switch with a dome light overide switch (push button) there is a tech mode built into the switch. start with the switch in the overide position and then push it in 4 times sequentially. You should here a "Bing" sound and then the DRL's will turn off. To turn them back on simply push the button 4 times again and you will here the same "bing" sound again and they will turn on. The reason that some Canadian made trucks will not do the tech mode is that the switches were contracted out overseas and no tech mode was included. It's also the law in Canada to have to drive with your head lights on in many of their provinces. Well I hope this helps out and I hope noone has cut any wiring they didn't need to.

PS: For those who have the Canadian built S10's that do not have the tech mode you can try and depress your parking brake 1 click, just enough to disengage the DRL's activation switch but not enough to engage the brakes.

I also tried this with no luck, and the sticker on the side of the driver side door says my truck was made in New Jersey so what gives? Is there another way to find this out like Silenc3r asked? I just want to be able to turn off my headlights at night. For example if I'm u-turning in someones driveway at night and things like that.

99 2.2 2wd S-10 LS ext. cab 5 speed.

Thanks.

philipalan · 04-21-2007, 03:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by johnster0228

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DISABLE THESE FEATURES? Just curious because I like the idea of having the DRL and not hving to worry about manually turning the Headlights on. JUST WONDERING WHY YOU GUYS ARE DOIN IN!!!

Eh, sometimes you want to let the truck idle and not have its lights on at night.

Or when you're trying to jump start either your car or somebody else's.

Or when running from the cops.

Etc.

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NickZigaitis I Like Fire....HaHaHa Age: 79 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,867 Location: God Damn Garage, STL User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Okay, Now I'm seriously baffled. I have a 2000 xtreme 2.2. I pulled the fuse and bent pin 86 like instructed. Didn't do anything for me. Started bending over additional pins testing each one one by one and nothing. Took the whole damn relay out and nothing. The only way to turn them off on mine was to press the done over-ride 4 time. Now I can understand the dome over-ride by why the hell did the lights even work (i mean worked completely normal with regular lights and brights when activated) when I pulled the whole DRL relay out of the fuse box? tell me someone has an answer for that.
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aGMguy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,830 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by NickZigaitis Okay, Now I'm seriously baffled. I have a 2000 xtreme 2.2. I pulled the fuse and bent pin 86 like instructed. Didn't do anything for me. Started bending over additional pins testing each one one by one and nothing. Took the whole damn relay out and nothing. The only way to turn them off on mine was to press the done over-ride 4 time. Now I can understand the dome over-ride by why the hell did the lights even work (i mean worked completely normal with regular lights and brights when activated) when I pulled the whole DRL relay out of the fuse box? tell me someone has an answer for that. magic elves
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08-21-2005, 12:19 AM	#53
GiveMeBreak 98' Cowl Induction Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 471 Location: North Smithfield RI User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? My 1998 2WD S-10 was a horse of a different color. A ZR2 member had added some posts for his 2003. I used some of his info and other info and combined it works! Mine has DRL's on the High beams. Also I did not bend the prong on the DRL Relay in the fuse panel under the hood as some of you must do. This is what I did for my vehicle specifically. DRL Disable (without doing quad beams) There is a shunt jumper (looks like a fuse but black with an arrow) in the fuse panel under the hood. It is locatated to the right of the DRL relay in there. Simply pull that for DRL to be disabled. Quad Beam with DRL Disable (Keep the Shunt Jumper as described above off.) You will follow these steps for a relay installation. Minus the ground wire to (86). http://www.fmtc.com/~brule/quad.html The other relay trigger contact (86) must go to the high beam negative (purple wire) and NOT to ground. The high beam positive wire is hot even when the high beams are off. This causes the quadbeam relay, if wired as described in the above link, to supply ground to the low beam at all times, defeating the DRL mod. The high beam switch passes ground to the high beam negative wire. For this reason, you want your quadbeam relay switched the same way i.e. both highbeam wires are used to trigger the relay. I now have DRL's off and Quadbeams!
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10-17-2005, 01:43 PM	#54
low.x.2k Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? i have a 2000 s10 xtreme with the 2.2L and manual transmission. i recently installed hids for my low-beams and the drl's (day-time running lights) were making my hids come on during the day, which is pointless. all i had to do to make them stay off unless i turn them on manually, is to get under the hood, open up the fuse relay panel on the right-middle side of the engine compartment, and pull the large relay (looks like a big black fuse) that is labeled as DRL on the under-side of the fuse panel lid. my low-beams, high-beams, and fogs all work fine using this process. i hope this is helpful to somebody.
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10-17-2005, 04:36 PM	#55
digital_xtreme Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,255 Location: Lapeer / Midland, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by low.x.2k i have a 2000 s10 xtreme with the 2.2L and manual transmission. i recently installed hids for my low-beams and the drl's (day-time running lights) were making my hids come on during the day, which is pointless. all i had to do to make them stay off unless i turn them on manually, is to get under the hood, open up the fuse relay panel on the right-middle side of the engine compartment, and pull the large relay (looks like a big black fuse) that is labeled as DRL on the under-side of the fuse panel lid. my low-beams, high-beams, and fogs all work fine using this process. i hope this is helpful to somebody. Yup did the same thing, it's better to disable anything that makes your headlights come on automatically when running HID's to help prevent problems and help the bulbs last longer.
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12-07-2005, 11:01 PM	#56
oks10 ^wants bags^ Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 552 Location: Stillwater, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? do quadbeams really make much of a difference? im thinking about doing this because theres no lights on the highway here and night driving sucks. i got some 40 dollar driving lights from walmart but they dont help with seeing whats coming up. and does anyone have photos of the difference?
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12-13-2005, 05:50 PM	#57
Lenny95NeoN It WAS a Blazer Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Baltimore, Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by oks10 do quadbeams really make much of a difference? im thinking about doing this because theres no lights on the highway here and night driving sucks. i got some 40 dollar driving lights from walmart but they dont help with seeing whats coming up. and does anyone have photos of the difference? Well you could just see for yourself. Just pull the highbeam switch toward you. This should make all 4 come on. You may have to try it twice. IMO it fills in the area closer to the vehicle. If You like the difference. then you could do the mod or have someone do it for you.
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12-13-2005, 06:01 PM	#58
Lenny95NeoN It WAS a Blazer Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Baltimore, Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by Nefarious Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN Is there anyway to make the AHL more sensitive? (not activate lights till it gets darker)? I plan on having the front window tinted, and I dont want my low beams on all the time. I went thru this w/ a Grand Prix and I had to mount the sensor right up against the glass. I might just relocate it alltogether.. I'm in the same situation, but what I found out is that you can not make it more sensitive since it's just a photo cell sensor. Your best bet is to either relocate it or disable it all together and manually turn your lights on. I disabled the ahl and began to miss it. Now I will just put a simple on/off switch inline w/ the resistor. This way I can just hit the button once when I want to turn the ahl off. Instead of pushing the other button 4 times and listening for the ding that I can't hear over the radio. State troopers don't seem to like the idea of me having blue L.E.D.s in place of DRL's. Sometimes I need to turn them off in a hurry.
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12-13-2005, 06:54 PM	#59
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,488 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN I disabled the ahl and began to miss it. Now I will just put a simple on/off switch inline w/ the resistor. This way I can just hit the button once when I want to turn the ahl off. Instead of pushing the other button 4 times and listening for the ding that I can't hear over the radio. State troopers don't seem to like the idea of me having blue L.E.D.s in place of DRL's. Sometimes I need to turn them off in a hurry. inline with the resistor? you mean with the sensor thing? and inline works? wouldnt you want a 2way switch with one circuit the resistor and the other the sensor?
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12-13-2005, 09:26 PM	#60
Lenny95NeoN It WAS a Blazer Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Baltimore, Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 inline with the resistor? you mean with the sensor thing? and inline works? wouldnt you want a 2way switch with one circuit the resistor and the other the sensor? Lemme clear this up I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor. Switch off = ahl will operate lights amount of sunlight read by sensor Switch on = ahl thinks its dark
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12-13-2005, 10:35 PM	#61
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,488 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN Lemme clear this up I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor. Switch off = ahl will operate lights amount of sunlight read by sensor Switch on = ahl thinks its dark okay. because i wanna do the same thing. is this waht you are saying? but wait. if the AHL thinks its dark when you have the switch "on", wouldnt the headlights turn on? itll ignore that it is lightoutside and will turn on the headlights. is that waht you want? i want a switch to be able to turn off my lights. to basically disable AHL with a switch. so will my idea of a 2way switch work better? or did you just word it wrong and confuse me? Last edited by greencactus3 : 03-12-2006 at 05:55 PM.
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12-13-2005, 10:37 PM	#62
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,488 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? my idea diagram Last edited by greencactus3 : 03-12-2006 at 05:55 PM.
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12-14-2005, 12:14 AM	#63
Lenny95NeoN It WAS a Blazer Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Baltimore, Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Yeah, I worded it wrong. it should have read this way. Lemme clear this up I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor. Switch off = ahl will operate lights dependant on amount of light read by sensor Switch on = ahl thinks its Daytime Should work either way. I just want to run a simle on/off push button switch. Only problem for you w/ this set up is that it will turn on the DRL's unless you do something like the "relay mod", or completely rewire your highbeams like I did. My high-beams run off of a relay triggered by the drivers-side factory high-beam wiring. And the lights I have for DRL's run off of a relay triggered by the Passengers-side factory high-beam wiring. Last edited by Lenny95NeoN : 12-14-2005 at 12:21 AM.
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12-14-2005, 07:03 PM	#64
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,488 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? ahh yes okay. i have done the relay DRL mod already.. so im fine there. whenever im not lazy ill try it. oh waht ohm resistor was it? sorry im lazy to scrolll up to suwhere in the sticky..
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12-14-2005, 08:34 PM	#65
oks10 ^wants bags^ Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 552 Location: Stillwater, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? anybody have picture of their quadbeams and maybe a better pic of the wiring than on the link that GiveMeBreak posted???
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01-11-2006, 03:27 PM	#66
BLACKBOWTIESS10 Tacklin Fuel Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 393 Location: Los Angeles, California User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by johnster0228 WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DISABLE THESE FEATURES? Just curious because I like the idea of having the DRL and not hving to worry about manually turning the Headlights on. JUST WONDERING WHY YOU GUYS ARE DOIN IN!!! I know I don't like seeing them on in the reflections of other cars. I disabled my fathers full size 97 with a simple fuse pull but my 01 I can't. Also, when you are sitting in a parking lot with the engine running I don't want my lights on, or backing my trailer into the water I don't want my trailer lights on. There are many reasons different people will have for doing this. I can't stand sitting at a light in the shade and having my lights come on for no reason, then go back out once I'm moving again. It's a govermental control thing, I don't want them on but they are trying there best to make me have them. I want nothing to work unless I tell them to. I will do the AHL mod and DRL but I don't yet see a correct way to do it on a 2001. I will try pulling the fuse first, then bending the tabs. Using the dome override over and over is not a smart thing, I want my lights off but am not willing to ruin my botton.
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01-11-2006, 03:29 PM	#67
BLACKBOWTIESS10 Tacklin Fuel Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 393 Location: Los Angeles, California User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? that and I have tinted windows that make the lights come on rediculously often
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01-12-2006, 12:31 PM	#68
Lenny95NeoN It WAS a Blazer Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Baltimore, Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKBOWTIESS10 that and I have tinted windows that make the lights come on rediculously often Imagine if your windshield was tinted. Try m mod and U can have more control over your lights. If U cacn find the proper female head light adapters, like the ones that come w/ projecter headlights, U dont have to cut any factory wiring. Well except the ahl sensor. Your lights should not be coming on in the shade at stop lights. unless u are sitting in shade for a good while. Mine would come on after about 45 seconds at hiway speeds when I go through the tunnels, but it would take as long as 4 min's( it seems) when sitting still. Kinda like the turn signal chime. I think there is some type of time/distance algorythm programmed in for those idiot features.
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01-13-2006, 12:25 AM	#69
BLACKBOWTIESS10 Tacklin Fuel Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 393 Location: Los Angeles, California User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? my front window is tinted lol. And it does like to come on whenever it is slighly darker than light out. Sucks, I will have to try the sensor and fuse mod.
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01-13-2006, 10:35 AM	#70
Lenny95NeoN It WAS a Blazer Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Baltimore, Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Either that or just relocate it to a place where it's not behind tint... Like by the vin # But there should be a photosensor that will send the correct resistance at when it senses a lower level of light. We already know the light turn n resistance. We just need a sensor that has an adjustable sensitivity settings....
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01-22-2006, 09:06 PM	#71
JamieZ Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 312 Location: Canterbury, CT User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? What pin do I bend over if my relay is labeled 1-5. I'm confused.
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01-24-2006, 11:00 AM	#72
Lenny95NeoN It WAS a Blazer Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Baltimore, Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? I will soon control my driving light with the same circuit that controls my DRL's. When the DRL's are off the driving lights are on and vice versa. The only exception is when the truck is not running no lights will be on.
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02-16-2006, 02:36 PM	#73
stalephotograph air ride equipped Age: 24 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,891 Location: danville, ky User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by JamieZ What pin do I bend over if my relay is labeled 1-5. I'm confused. my exact thoughts. no one has yet to answer this and i need to know. mine are labled 1-5 as well, no 87a or 86 lables. please help us who are in need.
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02-16-2006, 06:42 PM	#74
stalephotograph air ride equipped Age: 24 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,891 Location: danville, ky User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by stalephotograph my exact thoughts. no one has yet to answer this and i need to know. mine are labled 1-5 as well, no 87a or 86 lables. please help us who are in need. ok never mind i figured it out. instead of pulling the relay and bending a prong....i took out the black fuse w/ a white marking on top, over to the right of the drl relay. everything works fine.
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02-25-2006, 10:29 AM	#75
greencactus3 bellcranks no more Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,488 Location: ann arbor, mi User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN Yeah, I worded it wrong. it should have read this way. Lemme clear this up I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor. Switch off = ahl will operate lights dependant on amount of light read by sensor Switch on = ahl thinks its Daytime Should work either way. I just want to run a simle on/off push button switch. Only problem for you w/ this set up is that it will turn on the DRL's unless you do something like the "relay mod", or completely rewire your highbeams like I did. My high-beams run off of a relay triggered by the drivers-side factory high-beam wiring. And the lights I have for DRL's run off of a relay triggered by the Passengers-side factory high-beam wiring. i finally pulledthis off. looks factory and its nice to be able to turn it off. i like it.
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04-28-2006, 06:53 PM	#76
stickersmc High Jeep - Low S10 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11 Location: St. Peters, MO User is: OffLine	99 S10 For those of you with a 99 S10, and similar I'm sure, here's what we've got illustrated for you to accomplish getting rid of the DRL's and AHL's. DRL = Daytime Running Lights (when your vehicle's running, they're your bright lights... dimmed down for safe driving) AHL = Automatic Head Lights (automatically turn your lights on when it's a certain darkness outside) You're probably in the same boat as me, and couldn't find a response to the relay labeled with 1 2 3 4 5, instead of the 87a and such. Here's your answers... with pictures! This is where your under-hood fuse block should be located: Look on the fuse block key for the DRL Relay, as shown here: It's the mid-sized black cube shown here: It might take a minute to work it out of the slots, but a little back and forth action should get it out in a minute's time. Don't just pull the relay and leave it out, or one of your highbeams won't work, as shown here: Once you've got the relay pulled out... bend "pin number 5" over like the picture, and replace the relay back in the fuse block. We ended up cutting ours completely off, but just bend it over first, and make sure everything else is working correctly. Then you can cut it off if you want. You're done canceling out your DRL's!!! (Daytime Running Lights) As for your AHL's (Automatic Head Lights), remove your passenger side speaker grill. Remove the plug from the light sensor (the little bubble shape sticking through the grill), and stick a 2.2 ohm - 1/2 watt resistor into both sides of the plug, like the picture below. After you're done with that. Tape up the resistor onto the plug, so it doesn't touch anything in your dash, and you're done. AHL's are now removed as well! Hope this helps some of you out. I was kind of in the dark myself, since all the years differ so much, but hopefully this will get you thru souch a simple process. Anyone can accomplish this with very little mechanical/electrical knowledge... and feel like you've actually got to do some work on your own truck instead of all the mechanics. And... it only cost's about 50 cents for the resistors from Radio Shack, like "y2k xtreme" mentioned earlier in the post. Peace out guys!!! StickersMC
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05-10-2006, 01:23 AM	#77
Lenny95NeoN It WAS a Blazer Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Baltimore, Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3 i finally pulledthis off. looks factory and its nice to be able to turn it off. i like it. Cool, Guess I'll get around to doing a few things while the truck is down. It's a lot easier when it's not your daily driver anymore.
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05-16-2006, 01:36 PM	#78
digital_xtreme Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,255 Location: Lapeer / Midland, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? It's a good idea to do this mod if you are running HID's, hell any kind of bulb... the more use the bulbs have the less they will last. I always think it's stupid how the vehicles coming off the lot are setup to run HID's on at all times... it just decreases the performance of the HID bulbs as well as the life.
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05-18-2006, 09:37 AM	#79
Drjeffro Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 46 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? OK, I have an '01 Sonoma Highrider and I want to disable the DRLs. I tried bending just the 86 pin, then I tried bending all the pins except the 87a and 30 pins. Nothing has worked. When I put it in gear (automatic) the DRLs come on. What am I missing?
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05-18-2006, 02:37 PM	#80
BLACKBOWTIESS10 Tacklin Fuel Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 393 Location: Los Angeles, California User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by Drjeffro OK, I have an '01 Sonoma Highrider and I want to disable the DRLs. I tried bending just the 86 pin, then I tried bending all the pins except the 87a and 30 pins. Nothing has worked. When I put it in gear (automatic) the DRLs come on. What am I missing? Did you do the work when the truck was running or on? Cause you ot to do it with everything off. If the fuse is still good try bending only number 87 and putting it back in. BUTBUTBUTBUT try all pins except 87 and 30 when the truck is off. ONLY if that doesn't work try pin 87, that's what I did and it worked.
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05-18-2006, 08:21 PM	#81
Drjeffro Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 46 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? I did all the work with the truck off. Right now all the pins are bent over except 87a and 30 and they still work just the same. So, you are saying to bend everything over except pin number 87 or to leave them all straight except 87 (have 87 bent over)?
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05-29-2006, 12:42 AM	#82
Drjeffro Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 46 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Now I did the quadbeam mod. My DRLs are on the lowbeams. That works fine. I also got the relay from under the carpet, cut the center yellow wire and installed a toggle switch. However my DRLs are still on. I'm thinking that they are now grounding through the Quadbeam ground. So, how can I get around this?
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05-30-2006, 03:15 AM	#83
BLACKBOWTIESS10 Tacklin Fuel Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 393 Location: Los Angeles, California User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? bend or cut number 87 only I went out and bought a new fuse to see if leaving numbers 87a and 30 in tact would make any difference, it worked. I dunno, but both methods of cutting pin 87 and leaving both pins 87a and 30 have worked for me.
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06-02-2006, 04:59 PM	#84
hamagc US Beer Drinking Team Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7,101 Location: Lancaster, CA - Southern California User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? Quote: Originally Posted by y2k xtreme they will not make a difference power wise.... *note: the following works on 99+ s-10/sonoma/blazer/jimmy* <center>DRL</center> <center>Daytime Running Lights</center> there are two ways to do this. either way, DO NOT MODIFY PINS 87A OR 30!! first, remove the cover off the fuse block in the engine bay. locate the relay for DRL, then do one of the following..... 1.) bend one of the prongs up and reinstall the relay. 2.) cut the other three prongs out and reinstall the relay. once relay is installed, be sure to double check your highbeams, make sure both work. those are contolled by pins 87a and 30. that is why it is critical not to modify those two pins. <center>AHL</center> <center>Automatic Head Lights</center> you will need a 2.2K Ohm 1/2 Watt resistor. these can be found at Radio Shack for about 50 cents for a pack of 5. remove passenger side speaker grill on dash. unplug wire from the light sensor (little ball sticking up from the grill). insert resister into plug, and use a zip tie to strap the plug down to the dash. reinstall grill. *note: the following works on 98 s-10/sonoma/blazer/jimmy* <center>DRL</center> <center>Daytime Running Lights</center> there are two ways to do this. either way, DO NOT MODIFY PINS 87A OR 30!! first, remove the cover off the fuse block in the engine bay. locate the relay for DRL, then do one of the following..... 1.) bend one of the prongs up and reinstall the relay. 2.) cut the other three prongs out and reinstall the relay. once relay is installed, be sure to double check your highbeams, make sure both work. those are contolled by pins 87a and 30. that is why it is critical not to modify those two pins. <center>AHL</center> <center>Automatic Head Lights</center> you will need a 680 Ohm 1/2 Watt resistor. these can be found at Radio Shack for about 50 cents for a pack of 5. remove passenger side speaker grill on dash. unplug wire from the light sensor (little ball sticking up from the grill). insert resister into plug, and use a zip tie to strap the plug down to the dash. reinstall grill. Worked like a charm on my 02, i bent up pin #86 and reinserted the rest of the pins, no more DRL! my high beams still work, and the AHL comes on when i cover up the sensor. uncover the sensor and the lights turn off completely. personally i think it just looks better, i wanted to rid myself of the drl but i need to keep the ahl. hope this helps someone.
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06-11-2006, 02:44 PM	#85
Tat2Dragons Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 187 Location: Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Ahl/drl ? I did both of those mods the other day,works great. I don't think either of these mods could have been any easier,actually I think my dog could do these mods. Thanks for posting this info.
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