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Old 07-22-2005, 12:31 PM   #51
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Okay, Now I'm seriously baffled. I have a 2000 xtreme 2.2. I pulled the fuse and bent pin 86 like instructed. Didn't do anything for me. Started bending over additional pins testing each one one by one and nothing. Took the whole damn relay out and nothing. The only way to turn them off on mine was to press the done over-ride 4 time. Now I can understand the dome over-ride by why the hell did the lights even work (i mean worked completely normal with regular lights and brights when activated) when I pulled the whole DRL relay out of the fuse box? tell me someone has an answer for that.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by NickZigaitis
Okay, Now I'm seriously baffled. I have a 2000 xtreme 2.2. I pulled the fuse and bent pin 86 like instructed. Didn't do anything for me. Started bending over additional pins testing each one one by one and nothing. Took the whole damn relay out and nothing. The only way to turn them off on mine was to press the done over-ride 4 time. Now I can understand the dome over-ride by why the hell did the lights even work (i mean worked completely normal with regular lights and brights when activated) when I pulled the whole DRL relay out of the fuse box? tell me someone has an answer for that.
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Old 08-21-2005, 12:19 AM   #53
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

My 1998 2WD S-10 was a horse of a different color.

A ZR2 member had added some posts for his 2003. I used some of his info and other info and combined it works!

Mine has DRL's on the High beams.
Also I did not bend the prong on the DRL Relay in the fuse panel under the hood as some of you must do.

This is what I did for my vehicle specifically.

DRL Disable (without doing quad beams)
There is a shunt jumper (looks like a fuse but black with an arrow) in the fuse panel under the hood. It is locatated to the right of the DRL relay in there. Simply pull that for DRL to be disabled.


Quad Beam with DRL Disable
(Keep the Shunt Jumper as described above off.)
You will follow these steps for a relay installation. Minus the ground wire to (86).
http://www.fmtc.com/~brule/quad.html

The other relay trigger contact (86) must go to the high beam negative (purple wire) and NOT to ground.

The high beam positive wire is hot even when the high beams are off. This causes the quadbeam relay, if wired as described in the above link, to supply ground to the low beam at all times, defeating the DRL mod. The high beam switch passes ground to the high beam negative wire. For this reason, you want your quadbeam relay switched the same way i.e. both highbeam wires are used to trigger the relay.

I now have DRL's off and Quadbeams!
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

i have a 2000 s10 xtreme with the 2.2L and manual transmission. i recently installed hids for my low-beams and the drl's (day-time running lights) were making my hids come on during the day, which is pointless. all i had to do to make them stay off unless i turn them on manually, is to get under the hood, open up the fuse relay panel on the right-middle side of the engine compartment, and pull the large relay (looks like a big black fuse) that is labeled as DRL on the under-side of the fuse panel lid. my low-beams, high-beams, and fogs all work fine using this process. i hope this is helpful to somebody.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by low.x.2k
i have a 2000 s10 xtreme with the 2.2L and manual transmission. i recently installed hids for my low-beams and the drl's (day-time running lights) were making my hids come on during the day, which is pointless. all i had to do to make them stay off unless i turn them on manually, is to get under the hood, open up the fuse relay panel on the right-middle side of the engine compartment, and pull the large relay (looks like a big black fuse) that is labeled as DRL on the under-side of the fuse panel lid. my low-beams, high-beams, and fogs all work fine using this process. i hope this is helpful to somebody.

Yup did the same thing, it's better to disable anything that makes your headlights come on automatically when running HID's to help prevent problems and help the bulbs last longer.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

do quadbeams really make much of a difference? im thinking about doing this because theres no lights on the highway here and night driving sucks. i got some 40 dollar driving lights from walmart but they dont help with seeing whats coming up. and does anyone have photos of the difference?
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by oks10
do quadbeams really make much of a difference? im thinking about doing this because theres no lights on the highway here and night driving sucks. i got some 40 dollar driving lights from walmart but they dont help with seeing whats coming up. and does anyone have photos of the difference?
Well you could just see for yourself. Just pull the highbeam switch toward you. This should make all 4 come on. You may have to try it twice. IMO it fills in the area closer to the vehicle. If You like the difference. then you could do the mod or have someone do it for you.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by Nefarious
Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN
Is there anyway to make the AHL more sensitive? (not activate lights till it gets darker)? I plan on having the front window tinted, and I dont want my low beams on all the time. I went thru this w/ a Grand Prix and I had to mount the sensor right up against the glass. I might just relocate it alltogether..
I'm in the same situation, but what I found out is that you can not make it more sensitive since it's just a photo cell sensor. Your best bet is to either relocate it or disable it all together and manually turn your lights on.
I disabled the ahl and began to miss it. Now I will just put a simple on/off switch inline w/ the resistor. This way I can just hit the button once when I want to turn the ahl off. Instead of pushing the other button 4 times and listening for the ding that I can't hear over the radio. State troopers don't seem to like the idea of me having blue L.E.D.s in place of DRL's. Sometimes I need to turn them off in a hurry.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN
I disabled the ahl and began to miss it. Now I will just put a simple on/off switch inline w/ the resistor. This way I can just hit the button once when I want to turn the ahl off. Instead of pushing the other button 4 times and listening for the ding that I can't hear over the radio. State troopers don't seem to like the idea of me having blue L.E.D.s in place of DRL's. Sometimes I need to turn them off in a hurry.
inline with the resistor? you mean with the sensor thing? and inline works? wouldnt you want a 2way switch with one circuit the resistor and the other the sensor?
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3
inline with the resistor? you mean with the sensor thing? and inline works? wouldnt you want a 2way switch with one circuit the resistor and the other the sensor?
Lemme clear this up
I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor.
Switch off = ahl will operate lights amount of sunlight read by sensor
Switch on = ahl thinks its dark
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN
Lemme clear this up
I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor.
Switch off = ahl will operate lights amount of sunlight read by sensor
Switch on = ahl thinks its dark
okay. because i wanna do the same thing. is this waht you are saying?
but wait. if the AHL thinks its dark when you have the switch "on", wouldnt the headlights turn on? itll ignore that it is lightoutside and will turn on the headlights. is that waht you want? i want a switch to be able to turn off my lights. to basically disable AHL with a switch. so will my idea of a 2way switch work better? or did you just word it wrong and confuse me?

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Re: Ahl/drl ?

my idea diagram

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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Yeah, I worded it wrong. it should have read this way.

Lemme clear this up
I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor.
Switch off = ahl will operate lights dependant on amount of light read by sensor
Switch on = ahl thinks its Daytime


Should work either way. I just want to run a simle on/off push button switch.

Only problem for you w/ this set up is that it will turn on the DRL's unless you do something like the "relay mod", or completely rewire your highbeams like I did.
My high-beams run off of a relay triggered by the drivers-side factory high-beam wiring. And the lights I have for DRL's run off of a relay triggered by the Passengers-side factory high-beam wiring.

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Re: Ahl/drl ?

ahh yes okay. i have done the relay DRL mod already.. so im fine there. whenever im not lazy ill try it. oh waht ohm resistor was it? sorry im lazy to scrolll up to suwhere in the sticky..
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

anybody have picture of their quadbeams and maybe a better pic of the wiring than on the link that GiveMeBreak posted???
Old 01-11-2006, 03:27 PM   #66
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by johnster0228
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DISABLE THESE FEATURES? Just curious because I like the idea of having the DRL and not hving to worry about manually turning the Headlights on. JUST WONDERING WHY YOU GUYS ARE DOIN IN!!!
I know I don't like seeing them on in the reflections of other cars. I disabled my fathers full size 97 with a simple fuse pull but my 01 I can't. Also, when you are sitting in a parking lot with the engine running I don't want my lights on, or backing my trailer into the water I don't want my trailer lights on. There are many reasons different people will have for doing this. I can't stand sitting at a light in the shade and having my lights come on for no reason, then go back out once I'm moving again. It's a govermental control thing, I don't want them on but they are trying there best to make me have them. I want nothing to work unless I tell them to.

I will do the AHL mod and DRL but I don't yet see a correct way to do it on a 2001. I will try pulling the fuse first, then bending the tabs. Using the dome override over and over is not a smart thing, I want my lights off but am not willing to ruin my botton.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

that and I have tinted windows that make the lights come on rediculously often
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by BLACKBOWTIESS10
that and I have tinted windows that make the lights come on rediculously often
Imagine if your windshield was tinted. Try m mod and U can have more control over your lights. If U cacn find the proper female head light adapters, like the ones that come w/ projecter headlights, U dont have to cut any factory wiring. Well except the ahl sensor.

Your lights should not be coming on in the shade at stop lights. unless u are sitting in shade for a good while. Mine would come on after about 45 seconds at hiway speeds when I go through the tunnels, but it would take as long as 4 min's( it seems) when sitting still. Kinda like the turn signal chime. I think there is some type of time/distance algorythm programmed in for those idiot features.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

my front window is tinted lol. And it does like to come on whenever it is slighly darker than light out. Sucks, I will have to try the sensor and fuse mod.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Either that or just relocate it to a place where it's not behind tint... Like by the vin # But there should be a photosensor that will send the correct resistance at when it senses a lower level of light. We already know the light turn n resistance. We just need a sensor that has an adjustable sensitivity settings....
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

What pin do I bend over if my relay is labeled 1-5. I'm confused.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

I will soon control my driving light with the same circuit that controls my DRL's. When the DRL's are off the driving lights are on and vice versa. The only exception is when the truck is not running no lights will be on.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by JamieZ
What pin do I bend over if my relay is labeled 1-5. I'm confused.
my exact thoughts. no one has yet to answer this and i need to know. mine are labled 1-5 as well, no 87a or 86 lables. please help us who are in need.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by stalephotograph
my exact thoughts. no one has yet to answer this and i need to know. mine are labled 1-5 as well, no 87a or 86 lables. please help us who are in need.
ok never mind i figured it out. instead of pulling the relay and bending a prong....i took out the black fuse w/ a white marking on top, over to the right of the drl relay. everything works fine.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lenny95NeoN
Yeah, I worded it wrong. it should have read this way.

Lemme clear this up
I would plug the sensor back in, and splice in the resistor + switch to run paralell to the sensor.
Switch off = ahl will operate lights dependant on amount of light read by sensor
Switch on = ahl thinks its Daytime


Should work either way. I just want to run a simle on/off push button switch.

Only problem for you w/ this set up is that it will turn on the DRL's unless you do something like the "relay mod", or completely rewire your highbeams like I did.
My high-beams run off of a relay triggered by the drivers-side factory high-beam wiring. And the lights I have for DRL's run off of a relay triggered by the Passengers-side factory high-beam wiring.
i finally pulledthis off. looks factory and its nice to be able to turn it off. i like it.
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99 S10

For those of you with a 99 S10, and similar I'm sure, here's what we've got illustrated for you to accomplish getting rid of the DRL's and AHL's.

DRL = Daytime Running Lights (when your vehicle's running, they're your bright lights... dimmed down for safe driving)
AHL = Automatic Head Lights (automatically turn your lights on when it's a certain darkness outside)

You're probably in the same boat as me, and couldn't find a response to the relay labeled with 1 2 3 4 5, instead of the 87a and such. Here's your answers... with pictures!

This is where your under-hood fuse block should be located:



Look on the fuse block key for the DRL Relay, as shown here:



It's the mid-sized black cube shown here:



It might take a minute to work it out of the slots, but a little back and forth action should get it out in a minute's time.

Don't just pull the relay and leave it out, or one of your highbeams won't work, as shown here:



Once you've got the relay pulled out... bend "pin number 5" over like the picture, and replace the relay back in the fuse block. We ended up cutting ours completely off, but just bend it over first, and make sure everything else is working correctly. Then you can cut it off if you want.



You're done canceling out your DRL's!!! (Daytime Running Lights)


As for your AHL's (Automatic Head Lights), remove your passenger side speaker grill. Remove the plug from the light sensor (the little bubble shape sticking through the grill), and stick a 2.2 ohm - 1/2 watt resistor into both sides of the plug, like the picture below. After you're done with that. Tape up the resistor onto the plug, so it doesn't touch anything in your dash, and you're done. AHL's are now removed as well!



Hope this helps some of you out. I was kind of in the dark myself, since all the years differ so much, but hopefully this will get you thru souch a simple process. Anyone can accomplish this with very little mechanical/electrical knowledge... and feel like you've actually got to do some work on your own truck instead of all the mechanics. And... it only cost's about 50 cents for the resistors from Radio Shack, like "y2k xtreme" mentioned earlier in the post.

Peace out guys!!!
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

Quote: Originally Posted by greencactus3
i finally pulledthis off. looks factory and its nice to be able to turn it off. i like it.
Cool, Guess I'll get around to doing a few things while the truck is down. It's a lot easier when it's not your daily driver anymore.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

It's a good idea to do this mod if you are running HID's, hell any kind of bulb... the more use the bulbs have the less they will last. I always think it's stupid how the vehicles coming off the lot are setup to run HID's on at all times... it just decreases the performance of the HID bulbs as well as the life.
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Re: Ahl/drl ?

OK, I have an '01 Sonoma Highrider and I want to disable the DRLs. I tried bending just the 86 pin, then I tried bending all the pins except the 87a and 30 pins. Nothing has worked. When I put it in gear (automatic) the DRLs come on. What am I missing?
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