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Old 11-16-2009, 10:43 AM   #1
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97 s10 hid conversion

alright so im new at this whole forum thing but ive got a question. I have a 97 S10 with of course the sealed beam headlights but i want to get HID's. So what entails coverting them. Do i need to buy 4x6 headlights and just buy an HID kit or is there more too it than that.. new harnesses or whtever please let me know
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

For future reference, don't repost the same thread twice in different sections, just pm a mod and ask them to move it to the appropiate section. Also a lot of your questions have been answered before. I posted in your other thread.

You need to buy H4 conversion housings and you need to buy H4 HID's. I can post a ebay link tonight to my headlight housings as they are better quality then one set I owned.

This is where I bought my HID's
http://stores.ebay.com/VVME-CAR-PARTS

Some pics of my setup.
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f216/v...4/#post6612461

Headlight housing is a 4x6 H4 conversion housing.
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f62/so...for-ya-402934/

These are my housings, they were either $30 of $40 shipped on ebay.
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f62/h4...0/#post1883742

My HID's are 6,000K, H4-3 as they have high and low beams. The highs are simulated with an electric motor.
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion


so these are the housings you have. now once i get them all i have to do is by the H4 HID kit and im good to go or no.
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Correct, depending on the kit you buy you may have to upgrade your lighting harness with relays. My kit came with a relay harness so it pulls the power for the lights directly from the batter, stock wiring isn't the best for lighting, just adding relays can increase output of lights.
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can u post me a link to the exact kit you bought on ebay
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I will when I get off work, ebay is blocked here.
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

ok and one more question i have a 600 watt amp already wired from the battery so adding a relay to the battery will prob be bad
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why would adding a relay be bad?

HID's don't pull that much current.
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yea i kno but with the amp already wired and when i lsiten to music and the kicker boxes hit all the lights dim in my truck as it is.
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Then its better that you get power directly from the battery, other wise you will have problems with your HID's. Also, do the big 3 upgrade. That should help out with your lighting inside.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f202/b...how-to-321330/
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what do you mean by its then its better that you get power directly from the battery. im confused
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If you are already having problems with your lights dimming inside, that means you have a loss of voltage on the stock wiring, If you pull more power from there, it will only make it worse. HID's can be damaged if they are underpowered, so if you pull their power directly from the battery, the chances of them losing voltage is decreased. Basically you want them to have a direct route for power, so you use a relay to do this. The relay is activated by stock wiring, but that won't hurt anything since they don't require hardly any power to activate them.
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

ok so as long as i run a realay straight from the battery to the HID's il be fine as for the big 3 that should fix all my dimming problems??
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The big 3 should, but it all depends, it's possible that your sound system is too big for your stock alternator and battery when it hits. But thats more of sounds guys area, I'm good with stock wiring and adding electrical components, not much of a sound guy other than basics. A capacitor may even help the lights dimming.
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yea i have a capacitor i just havent ran it yet cause i gotta buy all the wiring first. also i was thinking that it could be the alternator. but high output ones are so damn expensive
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

but i think im gonna do the big 3 upgrade see how that goes and maybe even install the capacitor
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Here is the bulbs I own. This one even comes with the relay harness. It cost $80 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BI-XE...Q5fAccessories

Here are the headlights I own. $31 dollars.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/79-83...mZ250526785327
Old 11-16-2009, 11:31 PM   #18
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

alright so i installed the capacitor and still doesnt help the dimming so im thinking tht im gonna need a bigger alternator. to be able to run the amp and the lights. because them together will prob draw to much
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

also what abotu these http://www.truckshop.com/catalog/94-...t-p-19780.html. they seem to be nice
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I still say you should upgrade the big 3 wires first before alternator. Also, HID's pull less power than stock bulbs do. Those lenses you posted seem to be fine, but a bit pricey in my opinion.
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

yea but they come with the conversion harnesses too. and im going to do the big 3 uprgadefirst. you have any ideas where i could buy like premade 0 or 2 gauge wires for the upgrade
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or something
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

im getting these

harness-- http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cst/full.aspx?Page=68
i have one question though which harness do i get? is it the one for sealed beams only or one for composites only since i will be getting composites

housings--http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cst/full.aspx?Page=70
my question with this is will i need a relay and will i need anything besides the HID kit to finish the installation
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

You are still getting 4x6's right?

If so, you'll need 36-3583 for the upgrade harness.
http://www.lmctruck.com/scripts/mgrq...aspx?page=0068

Although some wire, crimps and a relay from a parts store would be a lot cheaper and it's easy to do. But if you want to buy it, be my guest.

Then for the headlight. 29-8488
http://www.lmctruck.com/scripts/mgrq...aspx?page=0070

The links may not work, I don't know since i was a checkout screen.
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

yea im getting 4x6's and i just think the wire harness they have is alot easier since its all put together already and the hid kit will come with a relay for it too
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Wait, yea, if you buy the same HID kit I have (hi and low), then you don't need to buy the relay upgrade kit from LMC. THe HID kit has a good set up and plenty size wiring for the power.
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oh and by the 36.3583 harness you mean i still have to get the harness for the sealed beam only headlights. will that plug and play with thoses housings
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how long does it takw for your hid's to heat up
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My HID's heat up in a matter of a few seconds.

I don't know what you're askin in the above post.

All you need for HID's are.

4x6 H4 Conversion Housing.
H4 HID (Hi/low setup)

Those two items have everything you need to swap to HID's including the relay harness. However, your stock pigtails for the lights are different from the H4 bulbs. So you will have to splice either a new h4 pigtail on the passenger side or just splice the wires together and be done with it. I spliced my wires, but I'm good with electrical.
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ok so those housing on lmc trucks are good and il just get the hid kit that you got but what are the pigtails that your talking about lol. im confused
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Sorry, I'm not trying to confuse you, but the stock housings on our truck have a different pigtail that connects to them. h4 bulbs have a simliar pigtail, but the connectors are different, meaning you can either buy a h4 pigtail from an autoparts store, or just cut the connector off on the passenger side and solder the wires or crimp them together. Btw, with the relay pack, you only need to do this on the passenger side, since it's closest to the battery. The rest of the wiring comes with the HID's. If you need to, I can try to get pics of my mounting and everything another day.
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pictureswould help alot and how much would it be for the different pigtails that i need, or the connectors. also the reason why i weanted to buy that heavy duty harness because i wanted to run it staright from the battery and not to the switch since it will draw too much and dim my lights
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The harness that comes with the HID's connects straight to the battery. It has relays built into it. So you don't have to worry about the aftermarket harness. It's already built into the harness for the HID's.

The pigtail can be bought for like $10 at most parts stores. Or go to a junk yard and get one off a an older Cherokee with the sealed 5x7's.
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so i need pigtails for h4 bulbs
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Just one pigtail. The HID harness only has to plug into one side. That controls the relay, from the relay, it comes with the harness for both sides of the truck and the HID's.
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ok now the huosings i want to buy are good right. i can use them?? and can you paste a link to the exact kit of yours
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I think I posted it all above, I can post it again, but it'll have to be once I get off of work, ebay is blocked here. The housings from LMC are good, and mine are good too. Which ones do you want? BTW, I hope you read the threads I originally posted, you do have to trim a little bit for the headlights to fit flush, at least the style I have. The other style fit like stock, but the output was less.
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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BI-XE...temQQhashZitem

this one is the4 good link
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By the other style you mean lmc's housings
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96...Q5fAccessories

I think these ones would be direct cut and nice ones too
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Those are what I have. The one's I'm talking about being direct fit but lower quality are these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CLEAR...item1e597d67cb

Like i said, they work, but the ones you have listed are a bit brighter and the materials reflect better. I also like the driving light.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BI-XE...Q5fAccessories


As for bulbs. Make sure in the buyers note or whatever you specify H4-3 and the color temp you want, mine were 6k, but 4300K Is nice too.

This is the Contents for the bulbs.
  • Quote:
    • √ 2 x HID Bi-Xenon bulbs
    • √ 2 x Ballasts
    • √ 2 x Secure mounting brackets
    • 1 x Relay Harness (including a 30A relay box)
    • √ 4 x Zip ties
    • √ All necessary wires and accessories
    • √ Installation Manual (English)
Between the headlights and the HID's, this is ALL you need for HID conversion.
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Yea so they are the ones I'm going to get and that kit
I just ask for h4 6000k bulbs
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make sure you say h4-3. That way it's verified you get the hi lows.
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Ok cool thanks man
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Here are some pics of my HID's. This shows where I've mounted my ballasts and the relay pack. Along with where I cut to make the headlights fit.


This shows the relay pack and the ballast.








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Re: 97 s10 hid conversion

you got any night shots of those? oh and badlands FTMFW!!!
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Wht part do you have trim.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Speedy2222
you got any night shots of those? oh and badlands FTMFW!!!
Yea, there's a couple threads with nightshots in it.
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f216/v...4/#post6612461
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Badlands is ****ing awesome btw. Can't wait to go back.

Alright.

As for the trimming. You can tell in my pics, the bucket the light sits in, I had to cut the ring bigger for the back of the housing to fit through and I cut that slot for the "daytime running light" bulb to fit through. It;s really easy to do, it only took me a dremel with a few cut off discs.
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