The New Firearm Thread

Dr. Steve · 11-19-2009, 04:29 PM

if you have shot only one you cannot call and entire line of guns crap...

montec · 11-19-2009, 04:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme

I have not shot a Sig. I have shot a Glock and a S&W and the Glock was nice but the S&W was crap. I don't like the fact that there is no safety on the Glock.

Some manufactures have a decock safety, not a full safety. I know with the P95 they have the DC and there PR(full safety). I got the second as i wanted a full safety. Like I said before go to some gun shops and take a look around and test fit in your hand. If you get the right one they will even walk you thru that process and explain a bit more to you. We had a sportsmans warehouse up here and I swear every time I went in and asked a question or to hold a gun I was treated like I was a criminal. Find the right store to look @ all that is available and they will treat you right.

Dr. Steve · 11-19-2009, 04:54 PM

i like the de-cocking safty's personally

bad03xtreme · 11-19-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Dr. Steve

if you have shot only one you cannot call and entire line of guns crap...

I never called the entire line crap, just the one I shot was.

Dr. Steve · 11-19-2009, 05:21 PM

i misread you initial post, sorry.

NCarolina910 · 11-19-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Dr. Steve

i like the de-cocking safty's personally

I agree. Just one of many things I love about my Beretta 92FS.

Dr. Steve · 11-19-2009, 05:33 PM

the only other gun besides the Beretta I own that has one is one of my three Bersa 380's

Terracoma · 11-19-2009, 09:59 PM

FWIW, I chose a Glock 17 (9mm) for my first because of the platform's reliability. The purchase was based 100% on function.

I plan on owning others, but like GETNLWR, it'll always be my go-to pistol; I trust the design to perform without fail, any time, any place.

Quote: Originally Posted by montec

I say if you know people that have any type that you are interested in see if you can get some time with them plinking.

Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolina910

Have you had a chance to go to a range and shoot both? That's what I'd suggest.

... Put your hands on all of them, manipulate all of them, and shoot all of them.

Your pistol choice should be decided by whichever brand/model you are capable of accurately shooting and also best fits your hand size... Everyone is different, so all the Glock lovers here on S10F are going to pimp them. Ditto for all the guys shooting whatever they own. However, what's good for them isn't necessarily going to be good for you, and the only way to know and without winding up with a $550+ paperweight is to try each one before you buy.

GETNLWR · 11-20-2009, 01:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme

I have not shot a Sig. I have shot a Glock and a S&W and the Glock was nice but the S&W was crap. I don't like the fact that there is no safety on the Glock.

please do not take this the wrong way, but it just needs to be stated.

If you requre a pistol with a safety, why is that?

Either you are afraid of the gun,

do not understand trigger disipline,

or do know know what safetys are built into a glock.

What you are refering to must be a stadard external safety.

Is the trigger going to pull it self?

If you need a safety, it is just another movement that your body must remember to do while using the gun. Its already been proven in firefights that safetys can kill. It is a minor muscle memory that must be imbedded in, and in the heat of a fight, can easly be missed or screwed up. I know that sounds stupid, but it is the truth. Truly, a safety is a crutch. My HK, NEVER gets its safety used. Its always carried hammer forward with one in the pipe.

same with sigs,

glocks,

and all other guns.

If you want my basis on why I'd choose a glock, I'll give that when I get home from work tonight, assuming if you still want it. As I stated at first, please re-read my first statment. Its not meant to be an insult, but a serious question. If you lack the discipline to use the firearm without a "safety" then perhaps I could point you in the direction to a can of mace. Fox labs makes a nice and effective product.

Terracoma · 11-20-2009, 04:49 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GETNLWR

Its always carried hammer forward with one in the pipe... same with... glocks

Question... Is that possible?

I don't have a concealed permit or a dedicated carry gun, so I usually Israeli-carry (when I carry at all) to avoid rechambering the same round again and again.

skanN86 · 11-20-2009, 05:05 AM

my 500a and my remington model 582 love the 582 when i was a kid very accurate gun

bad03xtreme · 11-20-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GETNLWR

please do not take this the wrong way, but it just needs to be stated.

If you requre a pistol with a safety, why is that?

Either you are afraid of the gun,

do not understand trigger disipline,

or do know know what safetys are built into a glock.

What you are refering to must be a stadard external safety.

Is the trigger going to pull it self?

If you need a safety, it is just another movement that your body must remember to do while using the gun. Its already been proven in firefights that safetys can kill. It is a minor muscle memory that must be imbedded in, and in the heat of a fight, can easly be missed or screwed up. I know that sounds stupid, but it is the truth. Truly, a safety is a crutch. My HK, NEVER gets its safety used. Its always carried hammer forward with one in the pipe.

same with sigs,

glocks,

and all other guns.

If you want my basis on why I'd choose a glock, I'll give that when I get home from work tonight, assuming if you still want it. As I stated at first, please re-read my first statment. Its not meant to be an insult, but a serious question. If you lack the discipline to use the firearm without a "safety" then perhaps I could point you in the direction to a can of mace. Fox labs makes a nice and effective product.

Because I have a child and when he gets older I don't want him to be able to get his hands on the gun and God forbid something terrible happen. I plan on getting a safe to keep it in but there are too many stories out there of kids messing around with guns for my liking.

So that is why I prefer that one extra step because you just never know.

montec · 11-20-2009, 11:05 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme

Because I have a child and when he gets older I don't want him to be able to get his hands on the gun and God forbid something terrible happen. I plan on getting a safe to keep it in but there are too many stories out there of kids messing around with guns for my liking.

So that is why I prefer that one extra step because you just never know.

Here, here. Now also don't forget the games that kids play shooting each other with toy guns.

Now, he did have some legitimate questions and I was asked that @ two gun shops I went too. I did not purchase from them as when they did ask them they were very condescending and very rude about it. The place I did buy from will again unless I know exactly what I am looking for, then it's not gonna matter as long as I get the best price.

Now I live in a city(or town depending on what people classify as a city) and I got mine as I wanted PP, plus I was afraid of not being able to buy too. But this was all before my wife was preg and not I want to pick up more 30rd mags. I want my family safe as I can protect them.

NCarolina910 · 11-20-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Terracoma

Question... Is that possible?

I don't have a concealed permit or a dedicated carry gun, so I usually Israeli-carry (when I carry at all) to avoid rechambering the same round again and again.

Of course it is. It's both possible and legal. That's how I carry every day when I've got my Glock, which is my standard carry gun. With the Beretta I do carry with the safety on, but I still keep one in the chamber, and it's not my standard carry gun due to it's size and weight. If you don't feel confident carrying with a round chambered, then don't. However, I would advise against a mindset of that gun being useful for effective personal protection if you were carrying in that manner.

Here's a relative post you may find interesting:
http://www.gunatics.com/forums/showp...22&postcount=1

Terracoma · 11-20-2009, 12:49 PM

Maybe I was too vague... Is it possible for a Glock to be decocked and have a live round in the chamber? Since it's striker-fired, the only method (that I know) of decocking a Glock is to pull the trigger on an empty chamber, so I wasn't sure how you'd go about getting a live round in the chamber after decocking... Either that, or I just read his post wrong.

I'm comfortable with carrying loaded, just uncomfortable with the possibility of seating the bullets of my carry ammo too far into their casings (from repeated rechambering) and creating an overpressure situation. State law also prevents me from carrying on campus or anywhere that serves alcohol (grocery store, Wal-Mart, restaurants, gas stations, etc). So I don't do much carrying as it is, and constantly clearing/rechambering seems like it might create an unnecessary danger for the few times I do carry.

NCarolina910 · 11-20-2009, 12:58 PM

Ah, I didn't know that's what you were getting at. No, as far as I know you're not able to carry a Glock un-cocked with a round chambered. I don't see how it'd be possible.

With that said, when the law states you can't carry a handgun where alcohol is served, that means served, not sold. You can carry in a grocery store/convenience store as they don't serve alcohol, they just sell it. I've carried in Wal-Mart many times, but I wouldn't take it into an Applebee's. However, since you down have a concealed carry permit open carry may freak a good deal of people out and therefor might not be a good idea in the grocery sore anyway.

Terracoma · 11-20-2009, 01:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolina910

With that said, when the law states you can't carry a handgun where alcohol is served, that means served, not sold. You can carry in a grocery store/convenience store as they don't serve alcohol, they just sell it. I've carried in Wal-Mart many times, but I wouldn't take it into an Applebee's. However, since you down have a concealed carry permit open carry may freak a good deal of people out and therefor might not be a good idea in the grocery sore anyway.

New Mexico is weird because of the rampant alcoholism around here...

State law says that open carry is prohibited anywhere alcohol is sold for off-site consumption, so all of the places you and I mentioned are no-go, unfortunately. State law also says that the only restrictions on concealed carry are private property where duly marked and anywhere that sells alcohol for on-site consumption, so Wal-Mart and the Qwik-Stop are fair game, but bars and most restaurants are out... That probably doesn't stop some people from carrying anyway, but that's how the DPS spells it out for us.

JohnnyDigits · 11-20-2009, 01:46 PM

In case any of you on s10f like to listen to pod casts or itunes, a couple of close friends run one along with a web site that talks about personal weapons/ laws/ fundamentals etc. It's very informational and both of them are Marines that I have served with in the recent past. Give them a try if you like...
www.gunfightercast.com

Tell Daniel and Justin that Josh sent you that way...

By the way, I'm a huge Springfield Armory fan, I carry an XD45 SC, own a XD9 Tactical, SA custom 1911, DPMS AP4 rifle, and a few .22 rifles that I go shooting with my son.

bad03xtreme · 11-20-2009, 02:13 PM

I just heard on the radio that there will be a gun show this weekend in my area. Do you usually get pretty good deals there or is better to find one online somewhere?

Dr. Steve · 11-20-2009, 02:26 PM

gun shows are over priced man, but you can sometimes find someone who has a good deal going...it is really up in the air...go and handle some of then guns you are looking at for sure though!

bad03xtreme · 11-20-2009, 02:30 PM

I just checked and it's $12.00/person to get in. I hate to waste $12.00 just to go and hold the guns. $12.00 seems a little pricy to me.

montec · 11-20-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme

I just checked and it's $12.00/person to get in. I hate to waste $12.00 just to go and hold the guns. $12.00 seems a little pricy to me.

About the going rate some are upwards of $20

Dr. Steve · 11-20-2009, 03:15 PM

yeah I paid 20 last time to get into one...and it was small as shit.

NCarolina910 · 11-20-2009, 04:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Terracoma

New Mexico is weird because of the rampant alcoholism around here...

State law says that open carry is prohibited anywhere alcohol is sold for off-site consumption

oh wow, how bout that.

and for the other post yeah, that's too steep (IMO) to just get into a gun show. most around here are around $7-8 and the stuff is overpriced.

montec · 11-20-2009, 05:02 PM

Always when you go to a show know what the new cost is for what your looking for. I've seen some online places now that are selling used stuff for the same price as new or more. Alot of times you can still order older models from certain gunshops/ourdoors places new also. So if you find something that fits your make a call to you best shop in town and find out what they have and there price.

GETNLWR · 11-21-2009, 01:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme

Because I have a child and when he gets older I don't want him to be able to get his hands on the gun and God forbid something terrible happen. I plan on getting a safe to keep it in but there are too many stories out there of kids messing around with guns for my liking.

So that is why I prefer that one extra step because you just never know.

So you think a child can pull a tigger, but not take off a safety?

Can you explain the logic of this to me?

My niece was 4 I got her to pull the hammer back on my HK and on my sig229.

If your worried about your child, dont let them have the chance to grab it. That is part of good parenting.

Your argument to me is still not all that solid. Please rethink your thought pattern here. Again I am not trying to be insulting. Just trying to convey a point.

nstoolman1 · 11-21-2009, 02:51 AM

Teach your children gun safety at the earliest age possible. Then the gun(s) will not be a mystery nor looked upon like a toy. You can still take normal precautions. Just my .02 worth.

GETNLWR · 11-21-2009, 03:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by nstoolman1

Teach your children gun safety at the earliest age possible. Then the gun(s) will not be a mystery nor looked upon like a toy. You can still take normal precautions. Just my .02 worth.

This is the wise way to do it. If a child asks to see your gun, how you handle the answer will depend very much on thier outcome of many situations. Its a good idea so they can see it. It removes the mystery and the "its a bad thing" hysteria.

camaro590 · 11-21-2009, 10:29 PM

heres some of mine and the gun cabinet i made i have more pics of all of them but there oon face book right now ill post later heres what i have iin there as of right now. Getting stock refinished on the M44

1940 Mosin Nagant Russian $150
1944 Mosin Nagant M44 Russian
1916 Spanish Mauser 308
30-30 lever action Marlin
Carcano 6.5 Bolt action.
Remington 870 Wingmaster

neel2008 · 11-22-2009, 12:01 AM

nice nagants, I have a 1954 91/30, they are a frekin blast to shoot, and u cant beat the price.

11-19-2009, 04:29 PM	#2401
Dr. Steve Keepin' it Gangsta! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,298 Location: Levittown, PA-☆-NE Philly-☆-Trenton, NJ-☆Tha 19057 Bitches☆ User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread if you have shot only one you cannot call and entire line of guns crap...
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11-19-2009, 04:47 PM	#2402
montec Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,104 Location: North Dakota User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme I have not shot a Sig. I have shot a Glock and a S&W and the Glock was nice but the S&W was crap. I don't like the fact that there is no safety on the Glock. Some manufactures have a decock safety, not a full safety. I know with the P95 they have the DC and there PR(full safety). I got the second as i wanted a full safety. Like I said before go to some gun shops and take a look around and test fit in your hand. If you get the right one they will even walk you thru that process and explain a bit more to you. We had a sportsmans warehouse up here and I swear every time I went in and asked a question or to hold a gun I was treated like I was a criminal. Find the right store to look @ all that is available and they will treat you right.
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11-19-2009, 04:54 PM	#2403
Dr. Steve Keepin' it Gangsta! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,298 Location: Levittown, PA-☆-NE Philly-☆-Trenton, NJ-☆Tha 19057 Bitches☆ User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread i like the de-cocking safty's personally
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11-19-2009, 04:57 PM	#2404
bad03xtreme Choosy moms choose Jeff Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,118 Location: Manassas, VA User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Dr. Steve if you have shot only one you cannot call and entire line of guns crap... I never called the entire line crap, just the one I shot was.
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11-19-2009, 05:21 PM	#2405
Dr. Steve Keepin' it Gangsta! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,298 Location: Levittown, PA-☆-NE Philly-☆-Trenton, NJ-☆Tha 19057 Bitches☆ User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread i misread you initial post, sorry.
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11-19-2009, 05:29 PM	#2406
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,190 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Dr. Steve i like the de-cocking safty's personally I agree. Just one of many things I love about my Beretta 92FS.
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11-19-2009, 05:33 PM	#2407
Dr. Steve Keepin' it Gangsta! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,298 Location: Levittown, PA-☆-NE Philly-☆-Trenton, NJ-☆Tha 19057 Bitches☆ User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread the only other gun besides the Beretta I own that has one is one of my three Bersa 380's
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11-19-2009, 09:59 PM	#2408
Terracoma Registered Adventurer Age: 22 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,841 Location: Socorro, NM User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread FWIW, I chose a Glock 17 (9mm) for my first because of the platform's reliability. The purchase was based 100% on function. I plan on owning others, but like GETNLWR, it'll always be my go-to pistol; I trust the design to perform without fail, any time, any place. Quote: Originally Posted by montec I say if you know people that have any type that you are interested in see if you can get some time with them plinking. Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolina910 Have you had a chance to go to a range and shoot both? That's what I'd suggest. ... Put your hands on all of them, manipulate all of them, and shoot all of them. Your pistol choice should be decided by whichever brand/model you are capable of accurately shooting and also best fits your hand size... Everyone is different, so all the Glock lovers here on S10F are going to pimp them. Ditto for all the guys shooting whatever they own. However, what's good for them isn't necessarily going to be good for you, and the only way to know and without winding up with a $550+ paperweight is to try each one before you buy. Last edited by Terracoma : 11-19-2009 at 10:07 PM.
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11-20-2009, 01:11 AM	#2409
GETNLWR Completly Useless Truck Age: 26 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,454 Location: Lake stevens WA User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme I have not shot a Sig. I have shot a Glock and a S&W and the Glock was nice but the S&W was crap. I don't like the fact that there is no safety on the Glock. please do not take this the wrong way, but it just needs to be stated. If you requre a pistol with a safety, why is that? Either you are afraid of the gun, do not understand trigger disipline, or do know know what safetys are built into a glock. What you are refering to must be a stadard external safety. Is the trigger going to pull it self? If you need a safety, it is just another movement that your body must remember to do while using the gun. Its already been proven in firefights that safetys can kill. It is a minor muscle memory that must be imbedded in, and in the heat of a fight, can easly be missed or screwed up. I know that sounds stupid, but it is the truth. Truly, a safety is a crutch. My HK, NEVER gets its safety used. Its always carried hammer forward with one in the pipe. same with sigs, glocks, and all other guns. If you want my basis on why I'd choose a glock, I'll give that when I get home from work tonight, assuming if you still want it. As I stated at first, please re-read my first statment. Its not meant to be an insult, but a serious question. If you lack the discipline to use the firearm without a "safety" then perhaps I could point you in the direction to a can of mace. Fox labs makes a nice and effective product.
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11-20-2009, 04:49 AM	#2410
Terracoma Registered Adventurer Age: 22 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,841 Location: Socorro, NM User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by GETNLWR Its always carried hammer forward with one in the pipe... same with... glocks Question... Is that possible? I don't have a concealed permit or a dedicated carry gun, so I usually Israeli-carry (when I carry at all) to avoid rechambering the same round again and again.
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11-20-2009, 09:41 AM	#2412
bad03xtreme Choosy moms choose Jeff Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,118 Location: Manassas, VA User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by GETNLWR please do not take this the wrong way, but it just needs to be stated. If you requre a pistol with a safety, why is that? Either you are afraid of the gun, do not understand trigger disipline, or do know know what safetys are built into a glock. What you are refering to must be a stadard external safety. Is the trigger going to pull it self? If you need a safety, it is just another movement that your body must remember to do while using the gun. Its already been proven in firefights that safetys can kill. It is a minor muscle memory that must be imbedded in, and in the heat of a fight, can easly be missed or screwed up. I know that sounds stupid, but it is the truth. Truly, a safety is a crutch. My HK, NEVER gets its safety used. Its always carried hammer forward with one in the pipe. same with sigs, glocks, and all other guns. If you want my basis on why I'd choose a glock, I'll give that when I get home from work tonight, assuming if you still want it. As I stated at first, please re-read my first statment. Its not meant to be an insult, but a serious question. If you lack the discipline to use the firearm without a "safety" then perhaps I could point you in the direction to a can of mace. Fox labs makes a nice and effective product. Because I have a child and when he gets older I don't want him to be able to get his hands on the gun and God forbid something terrible happen. I plan on getting a safe to keep it in but there are too many stories out there of kids messing around with guns for my liking. So that is why I prefer that one extra step because you just never know.
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11-20-2009, 11:05 AM	#2413
montec Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,104 Location: North Dakota User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme Because I have a child and when he gets older I don't want him to be able to get his hands on the gun and God forbid something terrible happen. I plan on getting a safe to keep it in but there are too many stories out there of kids messing around with guns for my liking. So that is why I prefer that one extra step because you just never know. Here, here. Now also don't forget the games that kids play shooting each other with toy guns. Now, he did have some legitimate questions and I was asked that @ two gun shops I went too. I did not purchase from them as when they did ask them they were very condescending and very rude about it. The place I did buy from will again unless I know exactly what I am looking for, then it's not gonna matter as long as I get the best price. Now I live in a city(or town depending on what people classify as a city) and I got mine as I wanted PP, plus I was afraid of not being able to buy too. But this was all before my wife was preg and not I want to pick up more 30rd mags. I want my family safe as I can protect them.
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11-20-2009, 11:50 AM	#2414
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,190 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Terracoma Question... Is that possible? I don't have a concealed permit or a dedicated carry gun, so I usually Israeli-carry (when I carry at all) to avoid rechambering the same round again and again. Of course it is. It's both possible and legal. That's how I carry every day when I've got my Glock, which is my standard carry gun. With the Beretta I do carry with the safety on, but I still keep one in the chamber, and it's not my standard carry gun due to it's size and weight. If you don't feel confident carrying with a round chambered, then don't. However, I would advise against a mindset of that gun being useful for effective personal protection if you were carrying in that manner. Here's a relative post you may find interesting: http://www.gunatics.com/forums/showp...22&postcount=1 Last edited by NCarolina910 : 11-20-2009 at 11:55 AM.
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11-20-2009, 12:49 PM	#2415
Terracoma Registered Adventurer Age: 22 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,841 Location: Socorro, NM User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Maybe I was too vague... Is it possible for a Glock to be decocked and have a live round in the chamber? Since it's striker-fired, the only method (that I know) of decocking a Glock is to pull the trigger on an empty chamber, so I wasn't sure how you'd go about getting a live round in the chamber after decocking... Either that, or I just read his post wrong. I'm comfortable with carrying loaded, just uncomfortable with the possibility of seating the bullets of my carry ammo too far into their casings (from repeated rechambering) and creating an overpressure situation. State law also prevents me from carrying on campus or anywhere that serves alcohol (grocery store, Wal-Mart, restaurants, gas stations, etc). So I don't do much carrying as it is, and constantly clearing/rechambering seems like it might create an unnecessary danger for the few times I do carry. Last edited by Terracoma : 11-20-2009 at 12:52 PM.
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11-20-2009, 12:58 PM	#2416
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,190 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Ah, I didn't know that's what you were getting at. No, as far as I know you're not able to carry a Glock un-cocked with a round chambered. I don't see how it'd be possible. With that said, when the law states you can't carry a handgun where alcohol is served, that means served, not sold. You can carry in a grocery store/convenience store as they don't serve alcohol, they just sell it. I've carried in Wal-Mart many times, but I wouldn't take it into an Applebee's. However, since you down have a concealed carry permit open carry may freak a good deal of people out and therefor might not be a good idea in the grocery sore anyway.
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11-20-2009, 01:29 PM	#2417
Terracoma Registered Adventurer Age: 22 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,841 Location: Socorro, NM User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolina910 With that said, when the law states you can't carry a handgun where alcohol is served, that means served, not sold. You can carry in a grocery store/convenience store as they don't serve alcohol, they just sell it. I've carried in Wal-Mart many times, but I wouldn't take it into an Applebee's. However, since you down have a concealed carry permit open carry may freak a good deal of people out and therefor might not be a good idea in the grocery sore anyway. New Mexico is weird because of the rampant alcoholism around here... State law says that open carry is prohibited anywhere alcohol is sold for off-site consumption, so all of the places you and I mentioned are no-go, unfortunately. State law also says that the only restrictions on concealed carry are private property where duly marked and anywhere that sells alcohol for on-site consumption, so Wal-Mart and the Qwik-Stop are fair game, but bars and most restaurants are out... That probably doesn't stop some people from carrying anyway, but that's how the DPS spells it out for us.
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11-20-2009, 01:46 PM	#2418
JohnnyDigits Low Class Age: 29 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 218 Location: NC User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread In case any of you on s10f like to listen to pod casts or itunes, a couple of close friends run one along with a web site that talks about personal weapons/ laws/ fundamentals etc. It's very informational and both of them are Marines that I have served with in the recent past. Give them a try if you like... www.gunfightercast.com Tell Daniel and Justin that Josh sent you that way... By the way, I'm a huge Springfield Armory fan, I carry an XD45 SC, own a XD9 Tactical, SA custom 1911, DPMS AP4 rifle, and a few .22 rifles that I go shooting with my son.
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11-20-2009, 02:13 PM	#2419
bad03xtreme Choosy moms choose Jeff Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,118 Location: Manassas, VA User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread I just heard on the radio that there will be a gun show this weekend in my area. Do you usually get pretty good deals there or is better to find one online somewhere?
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11-20-2009, 02:26 PM	#2420
Dr. Steve Keepin' it Gangsta! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,298 Location: Levittown, PA-☆-NE Philly-☆-Trenton, NJ-☆Tha 19057 Bitches☆ User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread gun shows are over priced man, but you can sometimes find someone who has a good deal going...it is really up in the air...go and handle some of then guns you are looking at for sure though!
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11-20-2009, 02:30 PM	#2421
bad03xtreme Choosy moms choose Jeff Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,118 Location: Manassas, VA User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread I just checked and it's $12.00/person to get in. I hate to waste $12.00 just to go and hold the guns. $12.00 seems a little pricy to me.
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11-20-2009, 02:44 PM	#2422
montec Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,104 Location: North Dakota User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme I just checked and it's $12.00/person to get in. I hate to waste $12.00 just to go and hold the guns. $12.00 seems a little pricy to me. About the going rate some are upwards of $20
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11-20-2009, 03:15 PM	#2423
Dr. Steve Keepin' it Gangsta! Age: 27 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,298 Location: Levittown, PA-☆-NE Philly-☆-Trenton, NJ-☆Tha 19057 Bitches☆ User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread yeah I paid 20 last time to get into one...and it was small as shit.
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11-20-2009, 04:46 PM	#2424
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,190 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Terracoma New Mexico is weird because of the rampant alcoholism around here... State law says that open carry is prohibited anywhere alcohol is sold for off-site consumption oh wow, how bout that. and for the other post yeah, that's too steep (IMO) to just get into a gun show. most around here are around $7-8 and the stuff is overpriced. Last edited by NCarolina910 : 11-20-2009 at 04:48 PM.
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11-20-2009, 05:02 PM	#2425
montec Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,104 Location: North Dakota User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Always when you go to a show know what the new cost is for what your looking for. I've seen some online places now that are selling used stuff for the same price as new or more. Alot of times you can still order older models from certain gunshops/ourdoors places new also. So if you find something that fits your make a call to you best shop in town and find out what they have and there price.
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11-21-2009, 01:17 AM	#2426
GETNLWR Completly Useless Truck Age: 26 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,454 Location: Lake stevens WA User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by bad03xtreme Because I have a child and when he gets older I don't want him to be able to get his hands on the gun and God forbid something terrible happen. I plan on getting a safe to keep it in but there are too many stories out there of kids messing around with guns for my liking. So that is why I prefer that one extra step because you just never know. So you think a child can pull a tigger, but not take off a safety? Can you explain the logic of this to me? My niece was 4 I got her to pull the hammer back on my HK and on my sig229. If your worried about your child, dont let them have the chance to grab it. That is part of good parenting. Your argument to me is still not all that solid. Please rethink your thought pattern here. Again I am not trying to be insulting. Just trying to convey a point.
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11-21-2009, 02:51 AM	#2427
nstoolman1 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 112 Location: Southern California User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Teach your children gun safety at the earliest age possible. Then the gun(s) will not be a mystery nor looked upon like a toy. You can still take normal precautions. Just my .02 worth.
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11-21-2009, 03:07 AM	#2428
GETNLWR Completly Useless Truck Age: 26 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,454 Location: Lake stevens WA User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread Quote: Originally Posted by nstoolman1 Teach your children gun safety at the earliest age possible. Then the gun(s) will not be a mystery nor looked upon like a toy. You can still take normal precautions. Just my .02 worth. This is the wise way to do it. If a child asks to see your gun, how you handle the answer will depend very much on thier outcome of many situations. Its a good idea so they can see it. It removes the mystery and the "its a bad thing" hysteria.
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11-21-2009, 10:29 PM	#2429
camaro590 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 580 Location: kernersville NC User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread heres some of mine and the gun cabinet i made i have more pics of all of them but there oon face book right now ill post later heres what i have iin there as of right now. Getting stock refinished on the M44 1940 Mosin Nagant Russian $150 1944 Mosin Nagant M44 Russian 1916 Spanish Mauser 308 30-30 lever action Marlin Carcano 6.5 Bolt action. Remington 870 Wingmaster
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11-22-2009, 12:01 AM	#2430
neel2008 Custom User Title Age: 19 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,859 Location: Huntington, Indiana User is: OffLine	Re: The New Firearm Thread nice nagants, I have a 1954 91/30, they are a frekin blast to shoot, and u cant beat the price.
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