Static Guys Unite!

[BlackEsDime]

yeah, my mazda rides about like stock, all i've done is loosen the torsions, pulled a leaf and a drop block, nothing there will stiffen the suspension at all. My only thing is i've pulled the bump stops for extra suspension travel, so if/when it bottom's out, its steel/steel.

When I lower it more, I'm going to flip the ball joints (no change in ride), index the torsion bars, and pull another leaf in the back (which will make it softer)... but i'm also going to do a mini notch to keep some travel. For s10's... they tend to ride like shit when lowered cause they're such a heavy suspension for such a light truck.

[BlackEsDime]

Quote: Originally Posted by nojoke93s10

I'm going and staying static. My truck is going to be more of a pro-touring build, bags don't work for that.... Personally I was never a fan of bags, but every now and then I get the hankering to mess with it. But not enough to make me jump to the dark side...

I'm not going to argue this point, but if that's what you truly believe about air suspension, you need to educate yourself. Ride Tech specializes in pro-touring type cars and markets to performance air-ride customers. Clearly, they're doing alright, so something must be working.

[sadexcuse4s10]

a fbss bag setup with front/rear swaybars and some nice ass shocks will handle very well

and the best part, you can adjust the handling and spring rate with the flip of a switch

[bmxbang]

Static FTW!

[Oldskool94]

Quote: Originally Posted by bmxbang

Static FTW!

Too much weight in your blazer ftl.

[CraigDavid]

i love my static drop. would like to have a bagged ride too tho. i dont enter shows but i love the way my blazer sits.

[koeberle04]

im more of a static guy, i think bags are badass because of the simple fact they are bags and because of the work that is involved, but its not the route i want to take, im currently lookin at getting my 2/3 drop here very soon. ive read quite a bit about how bags are high maintainance, maybe thats why i steer away, correct me if im wrong about that.

[nojoke93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlackEsDime

I'm not going to argue this point, but if that's what you truly believe about air suspension, you need to educate yourself. Ride Tech specializes in pro-touring type cars and markets to performance air-ride customers. Clearly, they're doing alright, so something must be working.

I don't consider ride tech's systems of the pro-touring nature to be anywhere in the same realm of what people here are doing on their s10s. Some of their systems are in the 5 digit range and use pretty advanced electronic systems to adjust things like ride height, psi, or coil values on the fly. You don't want to be hitting switches as your carving caverns at 70mph. Been a member/lurker for a long time on the pro-touring website, 95% of the people go static. Most keep it simple with quality parts, Some do elaborate swaps, c5 trans axle / IRS for example. While bags can be done, its not in the same essence of the bag systems used on most peoples vehicles looking to lay frame. Also if you notice, most bagged pro-tourers are big dollar resto's, using hybrid bag/shock systems.

Not financially feasible for me or most, I can get the same performance for less money and less work. If I where to go bagged, ride tech would be the only company I would consider. I'll keep playing the lotto.

[BlackEsDime]

your wrong





kinda. if you build it right, bags aren't high maintenance

[BlackEsDime]

Quote: Originally Posted by nojoke93s10

I don't consider ride tech's systems of the pro-touring nature to be anywhere in the same realm of what people here are doing on their s10s. Some of their systems are in the 5 digit range and use pretty advanced electronic systems to adjust things like ride height, psi, or coil values on the fly. You don't want to be hitting switches as your carving caverns at 70mph. Been a member/lurker for a long time on the pro-touring website, 95% of the people go static. Most keep it simple with quality parts, Some do elaborate swaps, c5 trans axle / IRS for example. While bags can be done, its not in the same essence of the bag systems used on most peoples vehicles looking to lay frame. Also if you notice, most bagged pro-tourers are big dollar resto's, using hybrid bag/shock systems.

Not financially feasible for me or most, I can get the same performance for less money and less work. If I where to go bagged, ride tech would be the only company I would consider. I'll keep playing the lotto.

i agree, but that wasn't the point. The point was air ride in general. not the terrible setup's "minitrucks" are known for having. I've worked in both restoration shops and pro-touring custom shops.

[thunder94]

A lot of shows class vehicles as Mild, Wild or Radical based on a count of how many modifications you have, I was in Mild class at ITB in 07 but after I got my truck shaved and repainted it put me into Wild in 08.

It's all about attention to detail that will impress a judge, but above all have fun out there guys. I do at least 1 car show a week and I don't always see another mini-truck at the event. No matter what state your truck is currently at get out there and show it off, you may give someone else an idea and/or get a few ideas of your own.

[82c5]

ive had both loved my static truck and slowly loving my bagged truck, i like being able to finnaly drive into my back yard without digging trenches lol

[jstblz]

3.5"/3" Adj. coilovers in the front. Like Daveman, I'll be damned if I bagged truck can do what I can on the track.

[ZQ8 Blazer]

I've seen very few trucks that have static drops that are show worthy. One that I can think of off hand is the black 98+ stepside with intro wheels and the charcoal painted interior, that truck is bad ass. Then Wicked's old Blazer too, can't forget that.

If I had my blazer repainted, shaved, and 20's I wouldn't even think about putting it in a show. I'll take my $40 to a nice restaurant.

Quote: Originally Posted by primerdnoma

This.

Static rides like shit, the only thing I will ride static is a slammed car on coilovers since my Jetta rides nice on them and it's slammed.

You've never rode in a truck that was lowered right. My Blazer rides better than it did stock.

[project87sdime]

Quote: Originally Posted by jstblz

3.5"/3" Adj. coilovers in the front. Like Daveman, I'll be damned if I bagged truck can do what I can on the track.

im sure theres alot that do what you can do being bagged if done right...think out side the box buddy

[ZQ8 Blazer]

^sober up before you post.

and he is thinking outside the box, he's got mudflaps

[project87sdime]

haha i am sober jack ass....

[project87sdime]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...ies_699300.htm

[a55togo]

maybe i am to old school, but i dig the static drop. i see way to many lincoln town cars draggin' ass cause the air bag system took a crap, or maybe i just need to get out of the ghetto,lol

[jstblz]

Quote: Originally Posted by project87sdime

im sure theres alot that do what you can do being bagged if done right...think out side the box buddy

I wasn't super serious. I'm just talking about the majority of bagged rides around here. Not racers in the slightest bit. Nice car you linked.

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

and he is thinking outside the box, he's got mudflaps

lol it keeps the truck cleaner longer haha also enhances the sleeperness (a new word I made)

[BlackEsDime]

i can't wait to do my mazda... I'm planning on a 350/manual swap, laying rocker. And it will perform as good or better then all these static guys that claim a bagged truck couldn't keep up.

[primerdnoma]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

I've seen very few trucks that have static drops that are show worthy. One that I can think of off hand is the black 98+ stepside with intro wheels and the charcoal painted interior, that truck is bad ass. Then Wicked's old Blazer too, can't forget that.
If I had my blazer repainted, shaved, and 20's I wouldn't even think about putting it in a show. I'll take my $40 to a nice restaurant.
You've never rode in a truck that was lowered right. My Blazer rides better than it did stock.

Yeah I've had my share of them mostly with Belltech stuff. My 99 s10 rode like shit until I put airshocks in the rear. It's probably just the drop shocks I hate. I had an old D50 with cut coils and blocks with stock shocks, rode great. I haven't owned or been in a static truck for years now. My 454Ss rides like a dream and my mustang is way nicer than when it had Tein drop coils, handling and ride quality.

I'll put some sway bars on my 454 and take on you static guys. I wish it had some anyway, I only hit sides to put gas in my truck.

[deathphoenix99]

static and will stay that way.

[ZQ8 Blazer]

Quote:

lol it keeps the truck cleaner longer haha also enhances the sleeperness (a new word I made)

lol

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My 99 s10 rode like shit until I put airshocks in the rear. It's probably just the drop shocks I hate.

Mine had sort of a rough ride until I put Nitro 2's on it.

[90blueS10]

**** static, drag that shit muffakakaka!!!!!!! (insert shocker here)

Just kidding, different strokes for different folks.

[dimebagged99]

static is cool.....until you crack the frame in half from the axel bottoming out constantly and beating the shit out of it.

[project87sdime]

thats why you run a mini notch

[dimebagged99]

had one, still broke the frame.

[rmoore911]

Quote: Originally Posted by dimebagged99

had one, still broke the frame.

then you were doing something wrong. . .

[CH@Dbee]

im very happy with my static drop! rides so much better than it did when it was stock. i mean i would concider bagging my blazer if it was done for free LOLOL but im much more concerned with getting 2 more pistons in it than getting it bagged.

[ZQ8 Blazer]

Quote: Originally Posted by 90blueS10

**** static, drag that shit muffakakaka!!!!!!! (insert shocker here)

Just kidding, different strokes for different folks.

I never said nothin about liking static drops better than bagged

[90blueS10]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

I never said nothin about liking static drops better than bagged

that wasnt aimed towards anyone, just saying it in general.

Sorry if you took it the wrong way

[ZQ8 Blazer]

I guess I did but it just hurt my man feelings

[90blueS10]

i sorry. need a hug bro?

[CH@Dbee]

Quote: Originally Posted by 90blueS10

i sorry. need a hug bro?

i wouldnt do that.............its a good possibility he will grab your ass

[98QueS-10s]

still planning on bagging mine but what the hell.



but if a war brakes out I'm totally jumping ship lol

[Daveman2]

The reason static drops ride like sh*t is because people almost always use sh*t components.

Get QA1 coilovers and your truck will ride a hell of alot better, and you can adjust it to make it softer or harder depending on what you like and do.

It just takes $450 for the front, rather than $450 for the whole suspension.

These are cheap trucks and most static guys don't put a whole lot of money into them, belltech leafs and belltech shocks just aren't going to make the thing ride like a ferrari

[ZQ8 Blazer]

Yeah Chad knows from experience

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The reason static drops ride like sh*t is because people almost always use sh*t components.

HERE HERE. Around here we either get mono leafs or stacked blocks and cut/heated coils. BOUNCY BOUNCY BOUNCY KABOOM!

Quote:

Get QA1 coilovers and your truck will ride a hell of alot better, and you can adjust it to make it softer or harder depending on what you like and do.

Can you adjust the height like 1/4" to 1/2" with those?

[90blueS10]

negative on the ass grabbing/groping/touching. Unless you look like megan fox.

[CH@Dbee]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

Yeah Chad knows from experience

are you talking about the ass grabbing for the using good drop parts?

i got about $800-ish in suspension parts all bought new for my truck and for the people that say static trucks ride like shit....they can GTFO cause mine rides amazing! its tighter than stock but smoother...not sure how that works but its the truth. ive never had a dropped truck before and i expected the worse....i was VERY pleased with the end result.

[CH@Dbee]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

Can you adjust the height like 1/4" to 1/2" with those?

you should be able to adjust them to an exact pont you want, i have had true coilover on most my cars and you should be able to lower it 5.4 inches or 5.41 inches or 2.1637848574 inches....its whatever you want.

[Daveman2]

Quote: Originally Posted by CH@Dbee

you should be able to adjust them to an exact pont you want, i have had true coilover on most my cars and you should be able to lower it 5.4 inches or 5.41 inches or 2.1637848574 inches....its whatever you want.

yeah there's about 3" of total adjustment, not to mention you can always easily swap out the spring for a softer/harder one

My QA1s have 12 levels of shock sensitivity, which goes from boat-soft to the suspension hardly moving when you jump on the hood.

autofabracecars.com and talk to Josh, Ithink you can get a pair for the front for under $500.

It's the single biggest positive difference mod I have ever done to the car for under $1000. I think any other kind of drop in the front is a HUGE waste, what if it's 1/8" too low/high-you're fvcked.

QA1s up front, blocks/leafs, and QA1 shocks in the rear, and it will ride tits for about $1000, and you can tune it to how you like it. About $400 can get you the same drop, but much lower quality parts and no ability to adjust.

but yeah, it's the old addage with cars, speed costs money. You can have a racecar, or a smooth cruiser, but if you want both it takes a sh*Tload of money, hence why ferrari and mercedes can make ridiculous cars that both handle and ride well, but it take alot of design/effort/money. That's why no production streetcars go in the 9s yet, and racecars are so much faster than production ones.

[Wicked Mayhem]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZQ8 Blazer

I've seen very few trucks that have static drops that are show worthy. One that I can think of off hand is the black 98+ stepside with intro wheels and the charcoal painted interior, that truck is bad ass. Then Wicked's old Blazer too, can't forget that.

If I had my blazer repainted, shaved, and 20's I wouldn't even think about putting it in a show. I'll take my $40 to a nice restaurant.


You've never rode in a truck that was lowered right. My Blazer rides better than it did stock.

for the blaze getting mentioned

[bitchin sonoma]

Quote: Originally Posted by CH@Dbee

im very happy with my static drop! rides so much better than it did when it was stock. i mean i would concider bagging my blazer if it was done for free LOLOL but im much more concerned with getting 2 more pistons in it than getting it bagged.

i like how how your thinking!!!

[kevdog]

here's my 2 cents. I have a bagged truck and pretty much wish that I didn't waste my money on it. I'd rather have a clean, static dropped, V8 S series, any day over a bagged 4 cylinder S10 (which I have)

[Daveman2]

yeah that's what I figured would happen to me, looks are only cool for so long IMO, it's the performance of the vehicle that's at the heart of it. I could have easily bought bags a long time ago with all of the money I have spent on making it perform.

[CH@Dbee]

Quote: Originally Posted by Wicked Mayhem

for the blaze getting mentioned

your blaze was a sexy bitch

Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma

i like how how your thinking!!!

8 pistons>bagged

thats just my opinion though

[rmoore911]

Quote: Originally Posted by Daveman2

The reason static drops ride like sh*t is because people almost always use sh*t components.

Get QA1 coilovers and your truck will ride a hell of alot better, and you can adjust it to make it softer or harder depending on what you like and do.

It just takes $450 for the front, rather than $450 for the whole suspension.

These are cheap trucks and most static guys don't put a whole lot of money into them, belltech leafs and belltech shocks just aren't going to make the thing ride like a ferrari

x2

dressing up a floating axle with new leafs and shocks aren't gonna do a shit ton for improving the lack of traction and stability in the ass end of these trucks. . .i would have invested money on a better suspension for the mine, but it's a 2.2 . . .i decided to leave her be, no reason to waste a ton of money on a turd (a reliable turd, but a turd nonetheless)

[rmoore911]

i still want to know if he's got the OP still has the ugly ass interior, because i still think that's the biggest reason his truck doesn't place at shows. . .he may like it, and it is/was different, but that shit was ugly as sin. . .

[TubbD]

Why go up? Static FTW