MMA Thread

rmoore911 · 09-03-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Imperial

The folks that were using it and got themselves demolished are usually purists, and don't quite grasp that their respective arts were developed for specific reason when they were needed (TKD for example, *cough*), and may not fit as-is into the type of fighting atmosphere that is MMA rules (Click for Travis Fulton/Jeremy Bullock, lawl).

i haven't seen that fight in ages. . .you got to love how fulton fulton just picks that little man up and throws him to the groung like an old school WWF move. . .

rmoore911 · 09-05-2009, 04:07 PM

so tim sylvia may be playing jason vorhees in the next friday the 13th film. . .

dannyboy954 · 09-06-2009, 04:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911

so tim sylvia may be playing jason vorhees in the next friday the 13th film. . .

I wonder how they are gonna hide the love handles.

rmoore911 · 09-06-2009, 04:45 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy954

I wonder how they are gonna hide the love handles.

timmay has nothing to worry about, jason usually wears relaxed fit clothing, even the dead and resurrected can be a little self conscious about their body image

dannyboy954 · 09-06-2009, 04:57 AM

As soon as I saw your post on this, yahoo had it on their homepage. lol I guess its confirmed.

rmoore911 · 09-24-2009, 08:39 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

apparently rampage is being vaginal over dana being pissed that he's backed out of the evens fight which has been planned for months so he can go shoot the A Team movie. . .i actually think Dana is a first class douche, but he's got every reason to be pissed that Rampage is ruining the co-main event of a PPV

***Imperial*** · 09-25-2009, 01:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

apparently rampage is being vaginal over dana being pissed that he's backed out of the evens fight which has been planned for months so he can go shoot the A Team movie. . .i actually think Dana is a first class douche, but he's got every reason to be pissed that Rampage is ruining the co-main event of a PPV

Yeah, the whole MMA-to-movie star bit cracks me up. These guys think they can make the transition but it's the sport they were doing to begin with that kept them in the limelight. Cung Le is finally giving up his title belt after not defending it for what, almost 3 years now?

I didn't care to see Rampage/Rashad anyway, but it's flat out lame that he's taking this road out of MMA when he's finally starting to become a complete fighter.

So, how bout Kimbo/Big Country? I'm stoked for that fight and I really hope Kimbo knocks Roy's head off of his shoulders. I thought I would like Roy on the show but he's a total asswipe. The first two fights have been LOLtastic but I imagine this one's going to make up for that.

rmoore911 · 09-25-2009, 04:04 AM

god that last fight was pathetic, both of them were too tired to do anything productive after the first 3 minutes of the first round. . .i thought that dude on rashaad's team was supposed to be a decent fighter. . .he might be a decent kickboxer, but he's got shit for any other skills. . .the only thing that saved him was that shivers was basically too damn big for his own good. . .he got tired way too quickly, and even when he had the guy mounted, it was like the other guy could just easily turn and leverage him up because he was able to pivot his hips under him. . .

don't know too much about roy. . .i know alot of people think he's got a chance to take the whole show because his experience level is alot higher than most people on it. . .really though, he was in the IFL, and any time i watched that, i wasn't impressed with anyone fighting in it. . .it reminded me of when i went to karate tournaments as a kid, you'd expect technique and form to be used like it was in class, and then they start the match and the punches looked like when chevy chase and dan akroyd were slap fighting in spies like us. . .anyways, i don't think roy is an ass, they knew what they were getting when they picked him. . .he reminds me of a roughneck who likes to fight and have a good time, unfortunately, that doesn't go over well with coaches. . .

jimmything08 · 09-26-2009, 02:13 PM

Would you be upset if I told you I knew how the Kimbo fight ends?

rmoore911 · 09-26-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jimmything08

Would you be upset if I told you I knew how the Kimbo fight ends?

i know quite a few people know how his fight ends this week, i don't care to know, because if i sit down and watch it, i want to see him get knocked the **** out or knock out roy, and i want it to be news to me. . .there were people who supposedly knew who the final 2 were around a month ago, but i never cared to find out that info, because i might actually watch all of this season like i did the first 2, and i don't really want to ruin for myself

rmoore911 · 09-26-2009, 02:24 PM

JD, what do u think rich is going to do now. . .they brought up a decent point before his fight against belfort. . .rich really is a little too small to be fighting the cream of the crop at 205, but he's almost too large to be cutting the weight so he can fight at 185 too. . .

99blkx · 10-18-2009, 09:39 PM

for anyone who cares... I have officially started my MMA career 0-1. we pretty much stood and banged for the first round and i ended up in his guard for a bit. he had a triangle and i popped out but he held onto it and had a tight arm bar but i rolled out. second round i was winded and we threw some leather for a bit. we both threw a couple knees in there too. wound up going down and getting mounted and pounded out. didn't take that much damage really, but enough to stop the fight. i bucked a few times but no dice getting up.

that's really all i remember. it happened SOOOO fast, yet sometimes in slow motion. i totally didn't stick to my gameplan and was throwing huge right hand looping bombs. i never throw those. dumb.

these are aftermath pics from last night and this morning. my guy enjoys kicking people a LOT. i wound up on my back and ate some leg kicks while looking for an upkick. ouch.

angry face, ready for more...

iced up in bed. helped out a bit...

my tenderized left leg...

and most of you don't know me, but i do have a giant nose... but not quite that big, lol. it was broken again last night. when the doc stepped in he wouldn't let me sit up. i said "i'm gonna drown if i don't" and when i sat up about 1/4 cup of blood (or more) hit the canvas. flippin awesome.

RuLayd · 10-18-2009, 10:16 PM

Time for a Rampage/Rashad fight imo

99blkx · 10-18-2009, 11:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RuLayd

Time for a Rampage/Rashad fight imo

rampage is "retired." he's an actor now.... Mr T yo! i think we all want to see them bang, probably not gonna happen

***Imperial*** · 10-19-2009, 01:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 99blkx

rampage is "retired." he's an actor now.... Mr T yo! i think we all want to see them bang, probably not gonna happen

With the way Rampage has been on the show I'm kind of glad he's gone (for now). Rashad's right; he's a shitty coach.

I do hope Kimbo gets another shot though - what Roy did to win that fight was absolute bullshit.

dannyboy954 · 10-19-2009, 02:08 AM

I do have a new found respect for Evans. I've never knocked him as a fighter but his antics were bothersome. I give him credit for taking this coaching thing as job and working it to the best of his abilities. It could definitely be bc he came from the show, but Quit'n Rampages actions so far have been complete bullshit.

rmoore911 · 10-19-2009, 02:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Imperial

With the way Rampage has been on the show I'm kind of glad he's gone (for now). Rashad's right; he's a shitty coach.

I do hope Kimbo gets another shot though - what Roy did to win that fight was absolute bullshit.

it may seem like bullshit, but you exploit your opponent's weaknesses and the rules to win. . .no need to risk a contract on one punch. . .i don't blame him in the least for doing it. . .

and i don't think it's just rampage that's a shitty coach, i think his entire staff sucks. . .but that's from just the limited amount of time we get to witness what they say or do. . .

dannyboy954 · 10-19-2009, 02:47 AM

JR, was this a Smoker, or were you on a card for an organized event?

***Imperial*** · 10-19-2009, 06:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911

it may seem like bullshit, but you exploit your opponent's weaknesses and the rules to win. . .no need to risk a contract on one punch. . .i don't blame him in the least for doing it. . .

This is where I like Dana White; he's not going to put up with fighters trying to win on technicalities such as this; he's looking for people who want to put on a good show - not just people who can exploit a weak rule. If Nelson wasn't able to do damage in that position Herb should've stood them up, and according to his post interview he almost did.

If this is how he plans on winning the contest and actually manages to do so more than likely he'd complete his "TUF Winner" contract with the UFC and they'd cut his ass; he's not the draw that he thinks he is by any stretch of the imagination - Kimbo is.

rmoore911 · 10-19-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Imperial

This is where I like Dana White; he's not going to put up with fighters trying to win on technicalities such as this; he's looking for people who want to put on a good show - not just people who can exploit a weak rule. If Nelson wasn't able to do damage in that position Herb should've stood them up, and according to his post interview he almost did.

If this is how he plans on winning the contest and actually manages to do so more than likely he'd complete his "TUF Winner" contract with the UFC and they'd cut his ass; he's not the draw that he thinks he is by any stretch of the imagination - Kimbo is.

i know what you're saying, but like i said earlier, there's a contract on the line, and anything within the rules is fairplay. . .right now, for those guys, it's not about putting on a great show, it's winning matches, for the guys that don't win, yeah, putting on a show is the only thing that might get them a chance later. . .with a more rounded opponent, i highly doubt he pulls the same thing, so i don't think that method is his intended method to finish off each fight. . .kimbo has improved it looks like, but he still doesn't have much of a ground defense, and from the looks of it, he can't defend off his back when he faces a larger and craftier opponent. . .which, is what will happen o him in the UFC on a regular basis if he can't keep from being taken down. . .and i'm sorry, if Herb would have stood them up, it would have gone against UFC rules. . .a referee is only supposed to stand them back up when the fighters don't try to improve their position (roy improved from guard, to mount, to side control), and they aren't doing anything productive (roy was delivering countless unblocked shots to kimbo's head). . .i know they weren't power shots, but even kimbo said they were beginning to hurt when rampage talked to him after the fight. . .so it isn't exactly like he was just tapping him on the skull. . .

***Imperial*** · 10-20-2009, 05:22 AM

We can agree to disagree for sure, and we're gonna have to -

Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911

i know what you're saying, but like i said earlier, there's a contract on the line, and anything within the rules is fairplay. . .right now, for those guys, it's not about putting on a great show, it's winning matches, for the guys that don't win, yeah, putting on a show is the only thing that might get them a chance later. . .with a more rounded opponent, i highly doubt he pulls the same thing, so i don't think that method is his intended method to finish off each fight. . .

I get your points and it's absolutely true, all I'm saying is what Roy did violates the spirit of the competition IMO, and that's also how Dana's going to see it.

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kimbo has improved it looks like, but he still doesn't have much of a ground defense, and from the looks of it, he can't defend off his back when he faces a larger and craftier opponent. . .which, is what will happen o him in the UFC on a regular basis if he can't keep from being taken down. . .

Sure, he has a lot of areas to improve; he knows it (and openly and humbly admits it), we know it, but it still is constantly pointed out - Draw doesn't necessarily indicate skill; there's a lot of unnecessary pressure on him to be something way more than what he is just because he is popular.

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and i'm sorry, if Herb would have stood them up, it would have gone against UFC rules. . .a referee is only supposed to stand them back up when the fighters don't try to improve their position (roy improved from guard, to mount, to side control), and they aren't doing anything productive (roy was delivering countless unblocked shots to kimbo's head). . .i know they weren't power shots, but even kimbo said they were beginning to hurt when rampage talked to him after the fight. . .so it isn't exactly like he was just tapping him on the skull. . .

I didn't hear Kimbo say that they started to hurt; but if Roy isn't trying to actually finish the fight and just holding Kimbo in the position while tapping him IMO that's not improving or finishing the position; in Herb's interview he saw it both ways.

towb3 · 10-20-2009, 12:13 PM

Marty, you probably changed then channel about the same time I was wanting to. ha. He was in the back talking to rampage and mentioned something along the lines of waiting for the ref to call it because it started to hurt. The sad thing is before the fight, Roy mentioned that he was going to try and get him in the same position and just give him some love taps. He will continue to count the hits out loud to try and get the ref to stop fight. I don't remember hearing him count but he was definitely looking for an easy way to win.

As much as it sucks it just falls in to the "wrestlers shouldn't be able to lay around and lazily GnP all fight long" category. Which can be found in the W's section for wrestlers, page 135. haha.

Oh, and is anybody else, kinda meh about this season? The last few have been rather disappointing. I take that back, I didn't watch last season due to a car we were building, but other than that it seems kind of lame recently.

***Imperial*** · 10-20-2009, 03:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by towb3

Marty, you probably changed then channel about the same time I was wanting to. ha. He was in the back talking to rampage and mentioned something along the lines of waiting for the ref to call it because it started to hurt.

Oh I believe it, I'm just saying I hadn't caught it previously; that makes me feel a little better about it.

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The sad thing is before the fight, Roy mentioned that he was going to try and get him in the same position and just give him some love taps. He will continue to count the hits out loud to try and get the ref to stop fight. I don't remember hearing him count but he was definitely looking for an easy way to win.

As much as it sucks it just falls in to the "wrestlers shouldn't be able to lay around and lazily GnP all fight long" category. Which can be found in the W's section for wrestlers, page 135. haha.

That's what I'm getting at about Roy taking advantage of a technicality and not really coming to fight.

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Oh, and is anybody else, kinda meh about this season? The last few have been rather disappointing. I take that back, I didn't watch last season due to a car we were building, but other than that it seems kind of lame recently.

This is probably the worst season of TUF yet.

towb3 · 10-20-2009, 04:54 PM

I wish they would have brought enough big guys to the house to do an elimination/entry round again.

rmoore911 · 10-20-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by towb3

I wish they would have brought enough big guys to the house to do an elimination/entry round again.

we kind of talked about this before. . .i'm certain there wasn't a fight your way on to the show segment because they didn't want kimbo losing before the first round

dannyboy954 · 10-25-2009, 10:19 PM

Wow, I'm shocked no one has posted in here about Shogun getting robbed last night.

deso · 10-25-2009, 10:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy954

Wow, I'm shocked no one has posted in here about Shogun getting robbed last night.

My lord Shogun was definitely robbed...I don't think the judges watched the same fight that everyone else did.

Bad-S · 10-25-2009, 11:49 PM

being a huge machida fan i also "KNEW" shogun was taking the belt after rd 5 ended. when they said machida my jaw dropped. I thought shogun won.

Dana said there will be an immediate rematch though, i think im looking forward to that

dannyboy954 · 10-26-2009, 12:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bad-S

being a huge machida fan i also "KNEW" shogun was taking the belt after rd 5 ended. when they said machida my jaw dropped. I thought shogun won.

Dana said there will be an immediate rematch though, i think im looking forward to that

Yea as soon as Bruce Buffer said by unanimous decision, I turned to my buddy as said "Shogun won". If they were going to give it to Machida it should have at least been a split.

rmoore911 · 10-26-2009, 01:02 AM

so far so good, i was able to stay off of yahoo's sports page since this morning, and i stayed out of here until right now. . .so i have no clue who won any of the matches list night. . .i'm about to go watch the ppv here in a couple of minutes

***Imperial*** · 10-26-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy954

Yea as soon as Bruce Buffer said by unanimous decision, I turned to my buddy as said "Shogun won". If they were going to give it to Machida it should have at least been a split.

I expected a split decision to Shogun, so the Unanimous to Machida was a complete shock.

That's cool that Shogun gets a rubber match though.

Neer also got robbed IMO.

dannyboy954 · 10-26-2009, 07:59 PM

So it looks like Lesnar is out of the fight against Carwin. Supposedly he hasn't been able to train for the last month due to illness.

On a different note. This site is pretty cool in showing the breakdown of a fight.. Check out what it showed for the Machida/Shogun fight.

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

towb3 · 10-26-2009, 08:38 PM

I just passed up that the fight is going to be rescheduled with rampage as soon as he can "pencil rashad in." In the mean time, it looks like Rashad will possibly be fighting Thiago Silva at UFC 108 with headliners Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort. Anybody else heard anything about it?

rmoore911 · 10-27-2009, 01:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Imperial

I expected a split decision to Shogun, so the Unanimous to Machida was a complete shock.

That's cool that Shogun gets a rubber match though.

Neer also got robbed IMO.

neer didn't get robbed. . .he only had one round that i think he won. . .i know he did a kickass job of defending once he got taken down, but those takedowns have to count for something, and he was being tossed around like a doll for 2/3 of the fight. . .at worst, i'd give that fight a draw just because neer's opponent couldn't follow up and do real damage after the takedowns. . .

***Imperial*** · 10-27-2009, 01:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911

neer didn't get robbed. . .he only had one round that i think he won. . .i know he did a kickass job of defending once he got taken down, but those takedowns have to count for something, and he was being tossed around like a doll for 2/3 of the fight. . .at worst, i'd give that fight a draw just because neer's opponent couldn't follow up and do real damage after the takedowns. . .

What I really mean via Neer getting robbed is that the scoring system doesn't take into account Neer's ability to negate anything on the ground that Tibau had to offer; it looked like Neer won that fight because he was fighting from the bottom and making the takedowns pointless.

rmoore911 · 11-12-2009, 11:34 PM

just got down watching last night's episode of TUF. . .i honestly think that since neither of the coaches or dana seem to care for Roy, that they were blinded in thinking that fight should have gone three rounds. . .i don't know enough about Roy to like or dislike the man, but he's fighting smart. . .and to me, he easily won both of those rounds in last night's fight. . .he let justin punch himself out the first minute of each round, and he then dictated the rest of each round. . .hell, 70% of justin's punches whiffed in the air 20% caught some shoulder and arm. . .and the remaining 10% hit roy, and most of that was in the 1st minute of the first round. . .and i give the fat guy some credit, 2 rounds, and it looked like he could have gone another 2. . .justin could barely make it back to his corner he was so damn winded. . .

***Imperial*** · 11-13-2009, 06:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911

just got down watching last night's episode of TUF. . .i honestly think that since neither of the coaches or dana seem to care for Roy, that they were blinded in thinking that fight should have gone three rounds. . .i don't know enough about Roy to like or dislike the man, but he's fighting smart. . .and to me, he easily won both of those rounds in last night's fight. . .he let justin punch himself out the first minute of each round, and he then dictated the rest of each round. . .hell, 70% of justin's punches whiffed in the air 20% caught some shoulder and arm. . .and the remaining 10% hit roy, and most of that was in the 1st minute of the first round. . .and i give the fat guy some credit, 2 rounds, and it looked like he could have gone another 2. . .justin could barely make it back to his corner he was so damn winded. . .

Yeah, in experience he's leagues ahead of these other guys - I don't really care for him but he's definitely gaming the game.

Fredo put on a good showing last weekend - I wish Rogers would've pressed harder for the KO; he was getting a decent share of the exchanges till he decided to put his hands down.

rmoore911 · 11-15-2009, 12:10 AM

i'm surprised, i thought tonights ufc event was supposed to be the PPV and next weeks was the free one on spike. . .anyways, hardy looked tough. . .it looked like he punched down's syndrome into swick. . .i was also surprised by vera's reaction to the decision, he had to know he only won the 2nd round, yet you could see the surprise on his face when they announced the decision. . .

rmoore911 · 11-15-2009, 03:38 AM

and if you want a good laugh, listen real hard to the ref during the vera/courture fight. . .i swear he sounds exactly like bricktop from snatch

99blkx · 11-15-2009, 03:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy954

JR, was this a Smoker, or were you on a card for an organized event?

sorry... didn't check in here for a while.

i was on the card for an amateur event here in st louis. my gym is affiliated with jesse finney's gym. we're technically "finney's west" and his teams fight through shamrock promotions.

i'm not familiar with the term "smoker"

dre0227 · 11-16-2009, 08:14 PM

I cant believe Brock is in a hospital fighting for his life with a infection in his intestines. They are saying he may never fight again.

mostizzle · 11-16-2009, 09:10 PM

i just went n seen sum donofrino mma and it was horrible, granted tickets were cheap but hardly worth the scratch. the chick fights were sweet tho,you hardly every get to see a girl knock another girl the hell out, her head snapped back so far i thought a piece of candy was gonna shoot out of her neck like a pez dispenser lol. and from what i understand elbow strikes are illegal in michigan, thats sum bullshit i'm callin shenanigans lol more like semi-mma

09-03-2009, 01:26 PM	#801
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Imperial The folks that were using it and got themselves demolished are usually purists, and don't quite grasp that their respective arts were developed for specific reason when they were needed (TKD for example, cough), and may not fit as-is into the type of fighting atmosphere that is MMA rules (Click for Travis Fulton/Jeremy Bullock, lawl). i haven't seen that fight in ages. . .you got to love how fulton fulton just picks that little man up and throws him to the groung like an old school WWF move. . .
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09-05-2009, 04:07 PM	#802
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread so tim sylvia may be playing jason vorhees in the next friday the 13th film. . .
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09-06-2009, 04:13 AM	#803
dannyboy954 5-Cylinder Member Age: 28 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,464 Location: Denver, CO User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911 so tim sylvia may be playing jason vorhees in the next friday the 13th film. . . I wonder how they are gonna hide the love handles.
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09-06-2009, 04:45 AM	#804
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy954 I wonder how they are gonna hide the love handles. timmay has nothing to worry about, jason usually wears relaxed fit clothing, even the dead and resurrected can be a little self conscious about their body image
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09-06-2009, 04:57 AM	#805
dannyboy954 5-Cylinder Member Age: 28 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,464 Location: Denver, CO User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread As soon as I saw your post on this, yahoo had it on their homepage. lol I guess its confirmed.
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09-24-2009, 08:39 AM	#806
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns apparently rampage is being vaginal over dana being pissed that he's backed out of the evens fight which has been planned for months so he can go shoot the A Team movie. . .i actually think Dana is a first class douche, but he's got every reason to be pissed that Rampage is ruining the co-main event of a PPV
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09-25-2009, 01:55 AM	#807
*Imperial* Captain Obvious Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 19,069 Location: Sacramento, CA User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911 http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns apparently rampage is being vaginal over dana being pissed that he's backed out of the evens fight which has been planned for months so he can go shoot the A Team movie. . .i actually think Dana is a first class douche, but he's got every reason to be pissed that Rampage is ruining the co-main event of a PPV Yeah, the whole MMA-to-movie star bit cracks me up. These guys think they can make the transition but it's the sport they were doing to begin with that kept them in the limelight. Cung Le is finally giving up his title belt after not defending it for what, almost 3 years now? I didn't care to see Rampage/Rashad anyway, but it's flat out lame that he's taking this road out of MMA when he's finally starting to become a complete fighter. So, how bout Kimbo/Big Country? I'm stoked for that fight and I really hope Kimbo knocks Roy's head off of his shoulders. I thought I would like Roy on the show but he's a total asswipe. The first two fights have been LOLtastic but I imagine this one's going to make up for that. Last edited by Imperial : 09-25-2009 at 01:58 AM.
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09-25-2009, 04:04 AM	#808
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread god that last fight was pathetic, both of them were too tired to do anything productive after the first 3 minutes of the first round. . .i thought that dude on rashaad's team was supposed to be a decent fighter. . .he might be a decent kickboxer, but he's got shit for any other skills. . .the only thing that saved him was that shivers was basically too damn big for his own good. . .he got tired way too quickly, and even when he had the guy mounted, it was like the other guy could just easily turn and leverage him up because he was able to pivot his hips under him. . . don't know too much about roy. . .i know alot of people think he's got a chance to take the whole show because his experience level is alot higher than most people on it. . .really though, he was in the IFL, and any time i watched that, i wasn't impressed with anyone fighting in it. . .it reminded me of when i went to karate tournaments as a kid, you'd expect technique and form to be used like it was in class, and then they start the match and the punches looked like when chevy chase and dan akroyd were slap fighting in spies like us. . .anyways, i don't think roy is an ass, they knew what they were getting when they picked him. . .he reminds me of a roughneck who likes to fight and have a good time, unfortunately, that doesn't go over well with coaches. . .
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09-26-2009, 02:13 PM	#809
jimmything08 No S-Series... Just a GTO Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 11,222 Location: SW OHIO User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Would you be upset if I told you I knew how the Kimbo fight ends?
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09-26-2009, 02:18 PM	#810
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by jimmything08 Would you be upset if I told you I knew how the Kimbo fight ends? i know quite a few people know how his fight ends this week, i don't care to know, because if i sit down and watch it, i want to see him get knocked the **** out or knock out roy, and i want it to be news to me. . .there were people who supposedly knew who the final 2 were around a month ago, but i never cared to find out that info, because i might actually watch all of this season like i did the first 2, and i don't really want to ruin for myself
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09-26-2009, 02:24 PM	#811
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread JD, what do u think rich is going to do now. . .they brought up a decent point before his fight against belfort. . .rich really is a little too small to be fighting the cream of the crop at 205, but he's almost too large to be cutting the weight so he can fight at 185 too. . .
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10-18-2009, 09:39 PM	#812
99blkx I'm on a boat! Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,470 Location: hour west of StL User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread for anyone who cares... I have officially started my MMA career 0-1. we pretty much stood and banged for the first round and i ended up in his guard for a bit. he had a triangle and i popped out but he held onto it and had a tight arm bar but i rolled out. second round i was winded and we threw some leather for a bit. we both threw a couple knees in there too. wound up going down and getting mounted and pounded out. didn't take that much damage really, but enough to stop the fight. i bucked a few times but no dice getting up. that's really all i remember. it happened SOOOO fast, yet sometimes in slow motion. i totally didn't stick to my gameplan and was throwing huge right hand looping bombs. i never throw those. dumb. these are aftermath pics from last night and this morning. my guy enjoys kicking people a LOT. i wound up on my back and ate some leg kicks while looking for an upkick. ouch. angry face, ready for more... iced up in bed. helped out a bit... my tenderized left leg... and most of you don't know me, but i do have a giant nose... but not quite that big, lol. it was broken again last night. when the doc stepped in he wouldn't let me sit up. i said "i'm gonna drown if i don't" and when i sat up about 1/4 cup of blood (or more) hit the canvas. flippin awesome.
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10-18-2009, 10:16 PM	#813
RuLayd 2 Tone Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,847 Location: ranch User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Time for a Rampage/Rashad fight imo
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10-18-2009, 11:32 PM	#814
99blkx I'm on a boat! Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,470 Location: hour west of StL User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by RuLayd Time for a Rampage/Rashad fight imo rampage is "retired." he's an actor now.... Mr T yo! i think we all want to see them bang, probably not gonna happen
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10-19-2009, 01:58 AM	#815
*Imperial* Captain Obvious Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 19,069 Location: Sacramento, CA User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by 99blkx rampage is "retired." he's an actor now.... Mr T yo! i think we all want to see them bang, probably not gonna happen With the way Rampage has been on the show I'm kind of glad he's gone (for now). Rashad's right; he's a shitty coach. I do hope Kimbo gets another shot though - what Roy did to win that fight was absolute bullshit.
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10-19-2009, 02:08 AM	#816
dannyboy954 5-Cylinder Member Age: 28 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,464 Location: Denver, CO User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread I do have a new found respect for Evans. I've never knocked him as a fighter but his antics were bothersome. I give him credit for taking this coaching thing as job and working it to the best of his abilities. It could definitely be bc he came from the show, but Quit'n Rampages actions so far have been complete bullshit.
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10-19-2009, 02:40 AM	#817
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Imperial With the way Rampage has been on the show I'm kind of glad he's gone (for now). Rashad's right; he's a shitty coach. I do hope Kimbo gets another shot though - what Roy did to win that fight was absolute bullshit. it may seem like bullshit, but you exploit your opponent's weaknesses and the rules to win. . .no need to risk a contract on one punch. . .i don't blame him in the least for doing it. . . and i don't think it's just rampage that's a shitty coach, i think his entire staff sucks. . .but that's from just the limited amount of time we get to witness what they say or do. . .
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10-19-2009, 02:47 AM	#818
dannyboy954 5-Cylinder Member Age: 28 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,464 Location: Denver, CO User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread JR, was this a Smoker, or were you on a card for an organized event?
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10-19-2009, 06:47 AM	#819
*Imperial* Captain Obvious Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 19,069 Location: Sacramento, CA User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911 it may seem like bullshit, but you exploit your opponent's weaknesses and the rules to win. . .no need to risk a contract on one punch. . .i don't blame him in the least for doing it. . . This is where I like Dana White; he's not going to put up with fighters trying to win on technicalities such as this; he's looking for people who want to put on a good show - not just people who can exploit a weak rule. If Nelson wasn't able to do damage in that position Herb should've stood them up, and according to his post interview he almost did. If this is how he plans on winning the contest and actually manages to do so more than likely he'd complete his "TUF Winner" contract with the UFC and they'd cut his ass; he's not the draw that he thinks he is by any stretch of the imagination - Kimbo is.
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10-19-2009, 10:36 AM	#820
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Imperial This is where I like Dana White; he's not going to put up with fighters trying to win on technicalities such as this; he's looking for people who want to put on a good show - not just people who can exploit a weak rule. If Nelson wasn't able to do damage in that position Herb should've stood them up, and according to his post interview he almost did. If this is how he plans on winning the contest and actually manages to do so more than likely he'd complete his "TUF Winner" contract with the UFC and they'd cut his ass; he's not the draw that he thinks he is by any stretch of the imagination - Kimbo is. i know what you're saying, but like i said earlier, there's a contract on the line, and anything within the rules is fairplay. . .right now, for those guys, it's not about putting on a great show, it's winning matches, for the guys that don't win, yeah, putting on a show is the only thing that might get them a chance later. . .with a more rounded opponent, i highly doubt he pulls the same thing, so i don't think that method is his intended method to finish off each fight. . .kimbo has improved it looks like, but he still doesn't have much of a ground defense, and from the looks of it, he can't defend off his back when he faces a larger and craftier opponent. . .which, is what will happen o him in the UFC on a regular basis if he can't keep from being taken down. . .and i'm sorry, if Herb would have stood them up, it would have gone against UFC rules. . .a referee is only supposed to stand them back up when the fighters don't try to improve their position (roy improved from guard, to mount, to side control), and they aren't doing anything productive (roy was delivering countless unblocked shots to kimbo's head). . .i know they weren't power shots, but even kimbo said they were beginning to hurt when rampage talked to him after the fight. . .so it isn't exactly like he was just tapping him on the skull. . .
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10-20-2009, 05:22 AM	#821
*Imperial* Captain Obvious Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 19,069 Location: Sacramento, CA User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread We can agree to disagree for sure, and we're gonna have to - Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911 i know what you're saying, but like i said earlier, there's a contract on the line, and anything within the rules is fairplay. . .right now, for those guys, it's not about putting on a great show, it's winning matches, for the guys that don't win, yeah, putting on a show is the only thing that might get them a chance later. . .with a more rounded opponent, i highly doubt he pulls the same thing, so i don't think that method is his intended method to finish off each fight. . . I get your points and it's absolutely true, all I'm saying is what Roy did violates the spirit of the competition IMO, and that's also how Dana's going to see it. Quote: kimbo has improved it looks like, but he still doesn't have much of a ground defense, and from the looks of it, he can't defend off his back when he faces a larger and craftier opponent. . .which, is what will happen o him in the UFC on a regular basis if he can't keep from being taken down. . . Sure, he has a lot of areas to improve; he knows it (and openly and humbly admits it), we know it, but it still is constantly pointed out - Draw doesn't necessarily indicate skill; there's a lot of unnecessary pressure on him to be something way more than what he is just because he is popular. Quote: and i'm sorry, if Herb would have stood them up, it would have gone against UFC rules. . .a referee is only supposed to stand them back up when the fighters don't try to improve their position (roy improved from guard, to mount, to side control), and they aren't doing anything productive (roy was delivering countless unblocked shots to kimbo's head). . .i know they weren't power shots, but even kimbo said they were beginning to hurt when rampage talked to him after the fight. . .so it isn't exactly like he was just tapping him on the skull. . . I didn't hear Kimbo say that they started to hurt; but if Roy isn't trying to actually finish the fight and just holding Kimbo in the position while tapping him IMO that's not improving or finishing the position; in Herb's interview he saw it both ways.
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10-20-2009, 12:13 PM	#822
towb3 Ehhh! Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,394 Location: Belleville, IL/St.Louis User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Marty, you probably changed then channel about the same time I was wanting to. ha. He was in the back talking to rampage and mentioned something along the lines of waiting for the ref to call it because it started to hurt. The sad thing is before the fight, Roy mentioned that he was going to try and get him in the same position and just give him some love taps. He will continue to count the hits out loud to try and get the ref to stop fight. I don't remember hearing him count but he was definitely looking for an easy way to win. As much as it sucks it just falls in to the "wrestlers shouldn't be able to lay around and lazily GnP all fight long" category. Which can be found in the W's section for wrestlers, page 135. haha. Oh, and is anybody else, kinda meh about this season? The last few have been rather disappointing. I take that back, I didn't watch last season due to a car we were building, but other than that it seems kind of lame recently. Last edited by towb3 : 10-20-2009 at 12:15 PM.
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10-20-2009, 03:39 PM	#823
*Imperial* Captain Obvious Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 19,069 Location: Sacramento, CA User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by towb3 Marty, you probably changed then channel about the same time I was wanting to. ha. He was in the back talking to rampage and mentioned something along the lines of waiting for the ref to call it because it started to hurt. Oh I believe it, I'm just saying I hadn't caught it previously; that makes me feel a little better about it. Quote: The sad thing is before the fight, Roy mentioned that he was going to try and get him in the same position and just give him some love taps. He will continue to count the hits out loud to try and get the ref to stop fight. I don't remember hearing him count but he was definitely looking for an easy way to win. As much as it sucks it just falls in to the "wrestlers shouldn't be able to lay around and lazily GnP all fight long" category. Which can be found in the W's section for wrestlers, page 135. haha. That's what I'm getting at about Roy taking advantage of a technicality and not really coming to fight. Quote: Oh, and is anybody else, kinda meh about this season? The last few have been rather disappointing. I take that back, I didn't watch last season due to a car we were building, but other than that it seems kind of lame recently. This is probably the worst season of TUF yet.
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10-20-2009, 04:54 PM	#824
towb3 Ehhh! Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,394 Location: Belleville, IL/St.Louis User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread I wish they would have brought enough big guys to the house to do an elimination/entry round again.
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10-20-2009, 05:40 PM	#825
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by towb3 I wish they would have brought enough big guys to the house to do an elimination/entry round again. we kind of talked about this before. . .i'm certain there wasn't a fight your way on to the show segment because they didn't want kimbo losing before the first round
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10-25-2009, 10:19 PM	#826
dannyboy954 5-Cylinder Member Age: 28 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,464 Location: Denver, CO User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Wow, I'm shocked no one has posted in here about Shogun getting robbed last night.
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10-25-2009, 10:27 PM	#827
deso Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 20 Location: Texas User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy954 Wow, I'm shocked no one has posted in here about Shogun getting robbed last night. My lord Shogun was definitely robbed...I don't think the judges watched the same fight that everyone else did.
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10-25-2009, 11:49 PM	#828
Bad-S Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 4,791 Location: Portland, OR User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread being a huge machida fan i also "KNEW" shogun was taking the belt after rd 5 ended. when they said machida my jaw dropped. I thought shogun won. Dana said there will be an immediate rematch though, i think im looking forward to that
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10-26-2009, 12:32 AM	#829
dannyboy954 5-Cylinder Member Age: 28 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,464 Location: Denver, CO User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Bad-S being a huge machida fan i also "KNEW" shogun was taking the belt after rd 5 ended. when they said machida my jaw dropped. I thought shogun won. Dana said there will be an immediate rematch though, i think im looking forward to that Yea as soon as Bruce Buffer said by unanimous decision, I turned to my buddy as said "Shogun won". If they were going to give it to Machida it should have at least been a split.
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10-26-2009, 01:02 AM	#830
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread so far so good, i was able to stay off of yahoo's sports page since this morning, and i stayed out of here until right now. . .so i have no clue who won any of the matches list night. . .i'm about to go watch the ppv here in a couple of minutes
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10-26-2009, 01:30 AM	#831
*Imperial* Captain Obvious Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 19,069 Location: Sacramento, CA User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by dannyboy954 Yea as soon as Bruce Buffer said by unanimous decision, I turned to my buddy as said "Shogun won". If they were going to give it to Machida it should have at least been a split. I expected a split decision to Shogun, so the Unanimous to Machida was a complete shock. That's cool that Shogun gets a rubber match though. Neer also got robbed IMO.
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10-26-2009, 07:59 PM	#832
dannyboy954 5-Cylinder Member Age: 28 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,464 Location: Denver, CO User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread So it looks like Lesnar is out of the fight against Carwin. Supposedly he hasn't been able to train for the last month due to illness. On a different note. This site is pretty cool in showing the breakdown of a fight.. Check out what it showed for the Machida/Shogun fight. http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html
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10-26-2009, 08:38 PM	#833
towb3 Ehhh! Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,394 Location: Belleville, IL/St.Louis User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread I just passed up that the fight is going to be rescheduled with rampage as soon as he can "pencil rashad in." In the mean time, it looks like Rashad will possibly be fighting Thiago Silva at UFC 108 with headliners Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort. Anybody else heard anything about it?
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10-27-2009, 01:52 AM	#834
rmoore911 Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,122 Location: chillin' with uncle ruckus, no relation. . . User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Imperial I expected a split decision to Shogun, so the Unanimous to Machida was a complete shock. That's cool that Shogun gets a rubber match though. Neer also got robbed IMO. neer didn't get robbed. . .he only had one round that i think he won. . .i know he did a kickass job of defending once he got taken down, but those takedowns have to count for something, and he was being tossed around like a doll for 2/3 of the fight. . .at worst, i'd give that fight a draw just because neer's opponent couldn't follow up and do real damage after the takedowns. . .
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10-27-2009, 01:58 AM	#835
*Imperial* Captain Obvious Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 19,069 Location: Sacramento, CA User is: OffLine	Re: MMA Thread Quote: Originally Posted by rmoore911 neer didn't get robbed. . .he only had one round that i think he won. . .i know he did a kickass job of defending once he got taken down, but those takedowns have to count for something, and he was being tossed around like a doll for 2/3 of the fight. . .at worst, i'd give that fight a draw just because neer's opponent couldn't follow up and do real damage after the takedowns. . . What I really mean via Neer getting robbed is that the scoring system doesn't take into account Neer's ability to negate anything on the ground that Tibau had to offer; it looked like Neer won that fight because he was fighting from the bottom and making the takedowns pointless.
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