I need help, with a girl...

[llorracs93s10]

Well i went on two dates now this this girl that i meet via friends and i am unsure on how to go from where i am now. I will say i am not a ''ladies man '' so to speak where i do things and make women melt, lol. Its a little hard for me so i need some help b/c i think i got a great one.

First date, we went to a italiain resturaunt and it was great, was there 2hrs and talked and talked and talked. She said she had a good time and said we would go out again, i didnt think too much of it b/c she could have just been nice and said that to make me feel better. Well fast forward to tonight, she got back from a two week out of state thing for work and we headed up to philly to go to a flyers game. I was excited and she was excited for someone who niever went to a game before. Well i made her laugh the whole night, she seemed like she had a great time as well. Well heres the thing, nothing has happend between us physically besides a hug goodbye.

Now heres where i need help, this girl just seems out of my league so am not sure why she still goes out with me, lol. SO i dont want to be too shy i guess is how i am trying to say it in making a move. But i also dont want to push the envelopee and chance screwing it up. So i need your help.

How do i keep her close without scrwing the situation up and not being ''too shy'' or ''too pushy'' making the first move and all?

[cruisinlows10]

pics? noodz?

[cruisinlows10]

For real though, if shes showing interest thats a good thing. Take cues from what she does/says when you two are together. Every chick is different but there are some universal signs. Sounds like you have the green light with this one so far.

[Squeegee]

Just ask her what she thinks about you

[JChapoton]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squeegee

Just ask her what she thinks about you

yeah she'll start to think he's insecure about himself. We've all seen what your girl look like and I wouldn't fvck her with your dick even if she bagged her head.

To the OP: just do what you have been doing and be yourself. I think that's what she likes about you. Women hate playas so quit thinking about the next score and let it happen naturally.

[What?]

There's a rule, if there's no physical within first few dates, ladies take you as gay.

Add in some affectionate kiss(not the cheek, the lip and then more) or just tell her the truth, how gorgeous she is along with compliment of 1 thing around her face and explain how you're shy and don't want to give off any "gay" vibe but as well as "player" vibe.

Out of the league or not, you got her to date twice, she's digging you.

[sadexcuse4s10]

tell her you want to kiss her

make it random, like in the middle of a date somewhere so it's unexpected and you can get a true reaction rather than just a run of the mill kiss goodbye

[96blazer]

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

Now heres where i need help, this girl just seems out of my league so am not sure why she still goes out with me, lol.

"Out of your league" in what way?

If your talking about in terms of looks, there is no law saying good looking girls need to only date good looking guys. She may care nore about personality than looks, or maybe you fit what her idea of a good looking guy is, you can never tell.

[Onimun]

Quote: Originally Posted by sadexcuse4s10

tell her you want to kiss her

make it random, like in the middle of a date somewhere so it's unexpected and you can get a true reaction rather than just a run of the mill kiss goodbye

Im the last person to be giving relationship advise, but this approach has worked for me.

[Onimun]

Quote: Originally Posted by 96blazer

She may care nore about personality than looks, or maybe you fit what her idea of a good looking guy is, you can never tell.

[NCarolina910]

Quote: Originally Posted by sadexcuse4s10

tell her you want to kiss her

make it random, like in the middle of a date somewhere so it's unexpected and you can get a true reaction rather than just a run of the mill kiss goodbye

Yeah, that. Or, just kiss her w/o telling her. I mean, don't just *BAM* out of nowhere. you know, nice moment, like yall are sitting somewhere talking. pick the right quiet moment and break the silence that way. don't get too eager. don't do it too soon in the date. don't move to fast. just relax, take it easy, move in slow, and don't over think it. despite all the advice, all you need to know is keep being yourself and don't hype yourself up and blow it. apparently you're doing a good enough job to get a second date, and if you can pull a third then you do need to kiss her then. the first date is a crap shoot. the second date is trying to feel things out a little more and continue to test the water. third date can be the all or nothing date. not saying it is, will, or has to be. but sometimes by that third time, it's either a know for sure thing or a just once more to make sure before you hit the road thing. so kiss the girl. be yourself. don't over think. be yourself. and kiss her.

[old_skool_noma]

and remember the rule from hitch, 90% 10% go 90% of the way and let her go the remaining 10% otherwise it can seem forced/rude, otherwise youre on the right track, just let it happen naturally, if you try t oforce things along like a "ladies man" it will never last

[Anthony]

Quote: Originally Posted by old_skool_noma

and remember the rule from hitch, 90% 10% go 90% of the way and let her go the remaining 10% otherwise it can seem forced/rude, otherwise youre on the right track, just let it happen naturally, if you try t oforce things along like a "ladies man" it will never last

i never knew this rule

[dogger]

She is going to expect you to make the first move you can ask her if you may kiss her if you like but have it happen on a romantic date and she'll never forget it. Don't worry about the leagues because they don't exist. You'll never know what attracts a woman to you I've dated all types and it still amazes me. If she's a good woman she wants a good man just keep that in mind and be a gentleman

[LiquidFusion]

Pics or get out.

[firefighter5325]

yea shes not out of your league. the leagues do not exist. if that was the case i would have always dated girls i felt were out of my league except once but that was when i was drinkin alot. anyway man if you have went out twise she obviously enjoys being around you. and you making her laugh the whole night is another plus. just be your self dont try to force anything. the 90-10 is a good rule if you want the first kiss to be one after you walk her to her door. the asking to kiss her is much better if you have a really romantic date set-up like said above if you do that she will never forget it.

[MeltingPlastic]

ahh.. dating.. welcome to my world!! haha... its fun isn't it?

okay heres a few tips/hints

1) 3 date rule: If i go on a date with a girl and I haven't kissed her after the 3rd date, then i'm more than likely in the friendzone or it wont happen... there have been times where i've pushed this to 4 and not had any issues but i stick to 3 dates.. its worked since i was 16 and works even now. Plus if after 3 dates you can't tell shes into you, she's probably not

2) The kiss goodnight: IDK if your mother/father raised you right, but I was always taught at a young age, walk them to their door at the end of the night. Do not expect to be asked inside or something, BUT this is the perfect oportunity to get a kiss goodnight. Don't force it, especially is she like bolts inside real quick, if she stops to talk with you for a bit,(watch the movie hitch LOL) shes more than likely wanting some excuse to still see you

3) Text messages: keep them short and sweet, don't drag them on or something. I'm not one to call girls, cause honestly, i usually dont have shit to talk about over the phone(IRL is different) but text her randomly to grab a drink. Be like "hey i'm heading to this bar to grab a drink would you like to meet up". You don't have to actually be going, and honestly don't bother if she says she can't. If she says maybe or sure you're golden but also if she says those things, you need to get off your ass and get to that bar, preferably with a buddy as a wingman lol nothings worse than telling her you're going somewhere and she goes and you're not there!

Other than that, who's making these plans? is she asking to see you? Hell, the girl i'm seeing now texted me after our second date while she was out with friends a few days later asking me why i hadn't kissed her yet haha.

Oh.. hint for a date idea.. girls are a big fan of the beach so i'll bring my date to the shore. Sure it means an hour long drive etc, but that gives you time to talk and they love it, especially in like the weather now, jeans, hoodie, and you can usually get a really romantic kiss if you go in close and hug her to keep her warm!

[MeltingPlastic]

oh and if all else fails, break your leg... i got soo many girls while i was still on crutches this past winter/spring cause they are all sympathetic. Don't work the sympathy angle just use it as your in lol

[kjm762]

Go for it. If she was not interested, the 2nd date never would have happened. You are young and will learn that there are no "leagues" except at the bowling alley.

[mister880]

next time you see her. smack her on the ass and say "i'm going to **** your tits off"

seriously, take hints. how is she acting? did she mention to you about going out again after the 2nd date?

[MeltingPlastic]

ohh heres another hint... personal space... give yourself a GOOD reason to get into her personal space... louder bars, though suck most of the time, are good for this, you can go in to whisper in her ear etc to see how she feels about you being that class.. also, don't foget subtle touches... nothing that says im trying to grope you but something that says hey im that into you that id like to get closer to you... this is a skill that only comes with practice unfortunately, finding out what gestures are not threatening and not overstepping your boundaries.

[tt85_GM]

mostly good tips here, i'll add something...
take it easy with her, don't rush things, don't tell her you want to marry her, don't tell her you want to move in with her, ect. it can crush the relationship. Go slow, care for her but don't worry about her 24/7, that's what her parents are for.

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

ahh.. dating.. welcome to my world!! haha... its fun isn't it?

okay heres a few tips/hints

1) 3 date rule: If i go on a date with a girl and I haven't kissed her after the 3rd date, then i'm more than likely in the friendzone or it wont happen... there have been times where i've pushed this to 4 and not had any issues but i stick to 3 dates.. its worked since i was 16 and works even now. Plus if after 3 dates you can't tell shes into you, she's probably not

2) The kiss goodnight: IDK if your mother/father raised you right, but I was always taught at a young age, walk them to their door at the end of the night. Do not expect to be asked inside or something, BUT this is the perfect oportunity to get a kiss goodnight. Don't force it, especially is she like bolts inside real quick, if she stops to talk with you for a bit,(watch the movie hitch LOL) shes more than likely wanting some excuse to still see you

3) Text messages: keep them short and sweet, don't drag them on or something. I'm not one to call girls, cause honestly, i usually dont have shit to talk about over the phone(IRL is different) but text her randomly to grab a drink. Be like "hey i'm heading to this bar to grab a drink would you like to meet up". You don't have to actually be going, and honestly don't bother if she says she can't. If she says maybe or sure you're golden but also if she says those things, you need to get off your ass and get to that bar, preferably with a buddy as a wingman lol nothings worse than telling her you're going somewhere and she goes and you're not there!

Other than that, who's making these plans? is she asking to see you? Hell, the girl i'm seeing now texted me after our second date while she was out with friends a few days later asking me why i hadn't kissed her yet haha.

Oh.. hint for a date idea.. girls are a big fan of the beach so i'll bring my date to the shore. Sure it means an hour long drive etc, but that gives you time to talk and they love it, especially in like the weather now, jeans, hoodie, and you can usually get a really romantic kiss if you go in close and hug her to keep her warm!

damn, i figured this to be a flamed thread, lol...i appreciate it guys. I suck with this shit.

Heres the thing, first date went to a italian resturant and it was great, let her talk most of the time but i didnt look like a ghost by any means. we have a lot in common coming from that date. Second date we go to the flyers game and she text me early yesterday morning that she was looking forward to going to the game with me. So i was happy with tht. Well fast forward to the game, shes into it for the most part, not yelling saying anything, but not sitting stiff as a board. Well we were walking out and talking about how her experience was and she said she enjoyed it and i was like ''well next time....'' and i went on with that and she said pertty much ''yea next time i will....'' so it seemed like thers definatly a second flyers date in the near future.

As for the setting up, well the first date was set up off texting, text for a few days than i asked if she wanted to do alittle talking on the fone or go to the next step and go out on the date, and she went right for the date. Than for the second date, i asked her if she would be interestd in the game as a date, and she said yes. So its pertty much me setting it up. And as for texting, im going to say its like 75%me 25%her starting a random convo off. This is where i get alittle worried b/c she stated that shes a very independnt women and doesnt really need the phone call of every day asking where u at, what you doing, ect. So i dont want to be the guy that does that, text her everyday and all....but i dont want to seem to distant. SO i try to keep from txting her b/c i really do have a interest in her.

As for the third date, well its up in the air, she goes away in less than 2 weeks and shes very busy at her job working 6-7 days, so i dunno how im going to see her again, but i would like to leave a very nice impression on her before she leaves.

Oh, and as for the subtle touches, i need to work on when and where on that, lol.

[bubba99]

Maybe it won't work, but while you are in line to buy tickets to a movie or something, have your arm around her waist or shoulders, depending on the height difference. Lean in and give her a little peck on the side of her forehead, just to let her know that you want to go to that next step. Thus way it doesn't creap her out like it would if you went for a wet one on the lips... I did this with my wife when we first started talking. I also thought she was out of my league. That was over 7 years ago. Hell, it worked for me... Wouldn't hurt to give it a try...

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by mister880

next time you see her. smack her on the ass and say "i'm going to **** your tits off"

seriously, take hints. how is she acting? did she mention to you about going out again after the 2nd date?

i would say she acting interested in what i am saying and doing. I mean she did say on the first date that she is not the kind of person to stand somone up or be ignorant for that matter and she couldnt treat a stranger like that. Well that steamed off of me joking that i thought she did on the first date as a joke and she told me she isnt the type of peson that would do stuff like that.

So that makes me think, is she just being nice to be nice to me and all or does she actually like what i am and all. And as for the hints, well i think i missed a golded opportunity to kiss her last night.

we meet up at the mall to go the game b/c she doesnt feel comfortable with me knowing i guess hwere she lives, which is totally fine with me. I understand that. Well i park next to her truck and we did alittle small talk, ''i appreciate you coming'', ''it was nice''...ect. Than i got this look that i thought was a ''you going to make a move?''....but i didnt do anything. Though she was pretty tired and i was just thinking it was a tired looking look. So i dunno. I just dont want to seem like, well im not into her or affraid to make moves.

By all means, i have complimented her a handful of times so she knows i kno shes gorgeous.

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by bubba99

Maybe it won't work, but while you are in line to buy tickets to a movie or something, have your arm around her waist or shoulders, depending on the height difference. Lean in and give her a little peck on the side of her forehead, just to let her know that you want to go to that next step. Thus way it doesn't creap her out like it would if you went for a wet one on the lips... I did this with my wife when we first started talking. I also thought she was out of my league. That was over 7 years ago. Hell, it worked for me... Wouldn't hurt to give it a try...

yea thats true, maybe i should take her to a movie for the next date and try something like that....i mean usually u dont take a first date to a movie unless ur going to dinner aftewrads because u cant get to know them. well since she know sme and seems comfortable to be on a date with me, maybe a nice old chick flick will do the work for me and i just have to time it correcly, lol

[MeltingPlastic]

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

yea thats true, maybe i should take her to a movie for the next date and try something like that....i mean usually u dont take a first date to a movie unless ur going to dinner aftewrads because u cant get to know them. well since she know sme and seems comfortable to be on a date with me, maybe a nice old chick flick will do the work for me and i just have to time it correcly, lol

NO NO MOVIE!!! movies are for after you've been seeing her for a while... you need to go places where she can interactwith you... take her for ice cream, take her ice skating. hell its fall.. apple picking.. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT take her to the movies yet!!

[s10pimpin209]

Be yourself (be a gentlemen use your manners, make her laugh, show a true interest in her) and read her body language ( its very important ). Like most guys on here are telling you there is no " out of your league" if you are presentable, respectful and focused shes all yours, but you gotta do things that show her u want to be more then friends (for example make pretend she is your girlfriend what things would you do for her? like send flowers randomly, you see a key chain with her name get it for her. Because if its clear to her, it will be clear to you . good luck pimp

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

NO NO MOVIE!!! movies are for after you've been seeing her for a while... you need to go places where she can interactwith you... take her for ice cream, take her ice skating. hell its fall.. apple picking.. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT take her to the movies yet!!

oh shit man, do i have you on payroll or something, you working hard for a fellow mate, lol. U know what, thats funny you should say that, i went to the flyers game last thursday, than went to my bros friends hockey game afterwards and i got a calendar of when they are open for open skates and such....that would be cool right? though it kinda smells like sweaty pads in there, lol....you should know of all ppl what a ice rink smell slike, haha.

[bubba99]

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

NO NO MOVIE!!! movies are for after you've been seeing her for a while... you need to go places where she can interactwith you... take her for ice cream, take her ice skating. hell its fall.. apple picking.. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT take her to the movies yet!!

Ok, ok... I completely agree... I shouldn't have said movies. What I was getting at is while you two are just standing in line for anything at all, it can be standing in line to take a piss... Just do it at some random time that she's not expecting it...

Sorry about that... I completely forgot about the "no movies" rule. I've been out of the game for a while... I'm a little rusty...

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by s10pimpin209

Be yourself (be a gentlemen use your manners, make her laugh, show a true interest in her) and read her body language ( its very important ). Like most guys on here are telling you there is no " out of your league" if you are presentable, respectful and focused shes all yours, but you gotta do things that show her u want to be more then friends. Because if its clear to her it clear to you . good luck pimp

yea i have a great interest in her, i dress to impress to a extent, like not over dressed for the occasion, but enough to show i want to loook good for her. And liek i said before, i let her talk mostly so it shows that i want to learn as much as i can about her.

[MeltingPlastic]

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

oh shit man, do i have you on payroll or something, you working hard for a fellow mate, lol. U know what, thats funny you should say that, i went to the flyers game last thursday, than went to my bros friends hockey game afterwards and i got a calendar of when they are open for open skates and such....that would be cool right? though it kinda smells like sweaty pads in there, lol....you should know of all ppl what a ice rink smell slike, haha.

haha yea, the local rink by me has 4 sheets and the main rink is only used for major stuff and theres no locker rooms by it so it doesnt smell LOL all the other rinks, yea haha

and i was outta the game for 5+ yeras, i had to relearn all this stuff on my own again lol... only issue with my advice is it gets a girl to like you, so if your looking to just hook up, i'm not the one to go to... trust me.. i've felt like a dick lately when shit doesnt work out on my end and the girls really into me.. 3 times already this year HAHA

Honestly, if this chick could be gf material, you gotta just play it cool, its the little things, but this whole always going away on business is kinda iffy... while shes away, don't text her, wait till she texts you. thats a good judgement on how well you are doing, if she goes a week without texting you, text her and see whats up(in general not between the two of you) if the convo seems forced after that, move on, it should startcoming naturally at this point if you've been talking for a while

oh and theres no shame in getting advice from ur friend if thats how you two met. Its actually a good step in the right direction to get inside info if your new at judging these things.... if you did the picking up on your own or whatever, good luck and just try to read all the signs

[Dr. Steve]

bitches like it when you listen, thumbs up bro

you will see panties drop in no time...

[s10pimpin209]

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

yea i have a great interest in her, i dress to impress to a extent, like not over dressed for the occasion, but enough to show i want to loook good for her. And liek i said before, i let her talk mostly so it shows that i want to learn as much as i can about her.

see your on the right track. did she give you her number or did you have to ask for it?

and back to the physical stuff. be patient with that some girls take alot more time to get comfortable and thats why its important for you to to talk about your prior relationships they will tell you alot about her and give u a idea of what to expect.

[MeltingPlastic]

oh one more word of advice before i head food shopping.. this came from a close female friend of mine "I don't want to be kissed on the first date, but I want to know that there will be a second" I've kinda lived by that ever since she told me that one

[primerdnoma]

Wow I did not do a single thing anyone in here said to get my wife.

I asked her out a couple times and she said no repeatedly because she lived 50 miles away in Franklin, NJ. The last time I tried, she was walking away from me after I was trying so hard to get her to say yes and I was like fvck this I'm not giving up, I gave up the first time two years before that because she went out with a "friend" of mine...who then started doing drugs and she couldn't handle that obviously(who could?). So anyways, as she was leaving my buddy could tell that I was pissed off that she kept saying no, so he went and talked to her and was telling her that I would go visit her all the time blah blah blah, it would be a serious relationship blah blah(longest prior to this was 3 months), then I went up to her and I was like listen...it's true. I have a vehicle, I'll drive to see you as much as I can, I'll do whatever it takes to make this work, and she finally said yes, might as well give it a try. I'm pretty sure our first "date" was just sitting in my Bronco II at the park, talking...ALOT. Almost broke it off with her because 100 mile trips in a Ramcharger are expensive, but she cried and I said ok I can deal with it. Now we're married with a daughter and have been together over 5 years.

Everyone on here as given some great advice, but the best still is just be yourself. Different things work for different girls so just keep on doing what you're doing because it seems to be working. If she says she wants to do it then well that's up to you, but I wouldn't. My wife kept wanting to for the first month and I said NO, it ruins the damn relationship.


BTW, where's the pics?

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

haha yea, the local rink by me has 4 sheets and the main rink is only used for major stuff and theres no locker rooms by it so it doesnt smell LOL all the other rinks, yea haha

and i was outta the game for 5+ yeras, i had to relearn all this stuff on my own again lol... only issue with my advice is it gets a girl to like you, so if your looking to just hook up, i'm not the one to go to... trust me.. i've felt like a dick lately when shit doesnt work out on my end and the girls really into me.. 3 times already this year HAHA

Honestly, if this chick could be gf material, you gotta just play it cool, its the little things, but this whole always going away on business is kinda iffy... while shes away, don't text her, wait till she texts you. thats a good judgement on how well you are doing, if she goes a week without texting you, text her and see whats up(in general not between the two of you) if the convo seems forced after that, move on, it should startcoming naturally at this point if you've been talking for a while

oh and theres no shame in getting advice from ur friend if thats how you two met. Its actually a good step in the right direction to get inside info if your new at judging these things.... if you did the picking up on your own or whatever, good luck and just try to read all the signs

yea shes definatly g/f material. I am by anymeans trying to hook up and go. Or else i would have already tried to.

s10pimpin209 well i emailed her at first, thats how this all started through emails, and iwas just like if you wanted to call or wat not beofre we meet up heres my number, and sure enough a day or so later i get a text....shitty day working on the truck turned into a great day. Well fromt here its been back and forth texting.

primerdnoma shit if u didnt know her now, and she saw ur 454ss, she would have been thre in ur arms already, no game or anything needed, lol.....

ANd i knew someone was going to say it, but i willl say this, with risk come reward, so if i finally make a move and i am successful with all ur guys words of wisdom/advice, i will most certainly post a pic....so its extra motivation for you guys to help a brother out.

[NCarolina910]

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

NO NO MOVIE!!! movies are for after you've been seeing her for a while... you need to go places where she can interactwith you... take her for ice cream, take her ice skating. hell its fall.. apple picking.. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT take her to the movies yet!!

this this this. no movie yet!

do something where you're spending time together. like bowling. then go out for ice cream (yeah, guess it's getting a little cold for that) or coffee afterwords. while yall are sitting (make sure you're close to her) and talking, wait for the right moment like a break in the conversation or when a mushy topic comes and just lean in and kiss her. maybe tell her how you feel about her before then lean in and yada yada yada.

[bagdnbdrpt]

have you tried holding her hand or anything of that nature yet?.. simple physical contact like that is a great indicator if she is interested. try holding her hand if she pulls away your a friend. if she holds your hand then you can progress to the next step and go for a kiss.

[96blazer]

Quote: Originally Posted by primerdnoma

Different things work for different girls

at the people giving their "do's and don't's" rules like they are written in stone.

[Zapnoma]

Quote: Originally Posted by LiquidFusion

Pics or get out.

14 fucking replies, people. Jesus.

[LiquidFusion]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zapnoma

14 fucking replies, people. Jesus.

Well there was a pic request at #2, but I still you, Zap.

[rmoore911]

i'm a big fan of asking if we can play a nice game of hide my penis in your vagina sometime in the near future. . .if she giggles, then you know you're in like flynn, and not headed for the friend zone. . .and i really don't get this out of league crap, i'm a big guy, that's rougher on looks than monoxide child is on the english language, and i've done quite well at getting disproportionately attractive girls to date me. . .

[mister880]

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

i would say she acting interested in what i am saying and doing. I mean she did say on the first date that she is not the kind of person to stand somone up or be ignorant for that matter and she couldnt treat a stranger like that. Well that steamed off of me joking that i thought she did on the first date as a joke and she told me she isnt the type of peson that would do stuff like that.

So that makes me think, is she just being nice to be nice to me and all or does she actually like what i am and all. And as for the hints, well i think i missed a golded opportunity to kiss her last night.

we meet up at the mall to go the game b/c she doesnt feel comfortable with me knowing i guess hwere she lives, which is totally fine with me. I understand that. Well i park next to her truck and we did alittle small talk, ''i appreciate you coming'', ''it was nice''...ect. Than i got this look that i thought was a ''you going to make a move?''....but i didnt do anything. Though she was pretty tired and i was just thinking it was a tired looking look. So i dunno. I just dont want to seem like, well im not into her or affraid to make moves.

By all means, i have complimented her a handful of times so she knows i kno shes gorgeous.

you're over thinking the situation. just let things "go with the flow". do not text her alor, let her text you, let her initiate the conversation. i've been on numerous dates this year, alot of which i ended after the first few dates. alot of different scenarios, but good experience.

1. do not text her every day. let her text you. let her initiate the conversation. her being "independant" this could scare her off
2. when she texts you, be short with it. i had one girl that would text me randomly all day. i hate that. anyway, my friends and i thought we'd make a bet one day with it. after every text from her, i'd reply with "o ya" or "o". it was quite funny. i don't advise doing this, most girl would probably leave you. but leave the texts to her short and sweet.
3. do not try and see her everyday.
4. find out what she's into and pick somewhere to go on a date that she enjoys.

you definately could have kissed her that night before the game, but there may be others. don't miss another chance. also, don't compliment her all the time. she knows what you think of her. now i'm not saying just stop complimenting her. but don't compliment her all the time. she will have you wrapped in no time.
i to have the "3 date rule" as melting plastic does. if i don't get something in 3 dates, i'm in the friend zone.

[Zapnoma]

Quote: Originally Posted by LiquidFusion

Well there was a pic request at #2, but I still you, Zap.

Oh, I musta skipped right over his reply. I'm sorry but I'm going to have to take your praise back.

It is still noteworthy though because the douche still hasn't posted pics, wtf.

[phantom_mia]

if your not big pimpin, remember k.i.s.s "keep it simple stupid", just be your self let it happen naturally, she's there cause she see's something she's interested in. if all your interested in is nookie be a pimp. but in the end if you want to be in a relationship with this girl honesty is your only hope cause she will find out eventually and if you turn out to be something your not she's gonna take the next train out of your life.

flowers and shit are nice but if that's your angle then it going to look like your trying to buy her and that's not a game you want to play.

find something you can do that doesn't cost much, it shows you want to spend time with her

long term relationships are based on friendship not whether you can f@#k her so hard her uterus falls out

[MeltingPlastic]

Quote: Originally Posted by 96blazer

at the people giving their "do's and don't's" rules like they are written in stone.

You're right, they're not written in stone, trust me, i change up my style depending upon the girl because you have to learn to read the situation. He's obviously either clueless or new to dating because honestly, lets face it, i think i'm the only one out of all my friends who still goes on dates, the rest of them just bring home girls from the bars lol he may screw this one up royally but the advice will help try to prevent that!

[Fannatick]

All good advice so far. I think ice skating would be a good date (especially if you're a good skater). Sitting close enjoying a little hot cocoa, chatting, then at some point make an attempt to subtly kiss her and your in! Soon enough you'll be looking back and wondering why you settled down... jk

[Dozer600]

"So, when you gonna let me tap that?"

[tt85_GM]

buy her a small and I mean small gift, nothing big, small teddy bear, small box of chocolates or whatever and when you go on the date just say.."here I was thinking of you today" she'll like that alot.