Fantasy Nascar Anyone????

NCarolina910 · 06-08-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20

WOOHOO my boy won the race....that was probably the best Pocono race I have seen in a long time if not ever. It was good to see that the leader couldnt get some huge 9 second lead like in Pocono races before

Tony still pulled away a good bit, but I know what you're saying.

It was about as good as a Pocono race can be. Bout as boring as last week's Dover race was. So glad Tony finally won him a points race as an owner and pumped about Newman moving up even further in the points. Don't think he's gonna get any higher though, unless Gordon really starts slipping, which I don't see happening. On another note, Reutimann's becoming more interesting every week. His "The Franchsie" nickname is really starting to mean something.

adamwilkes20 · 06-08-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10

Tony still pulled away a good bit, but I know what you're saying.

It was about as good as a Pocono race can be. Bout as boring as last week's Dover race was. So glad Tony finally won him a points race as an owner and pumped about Newman moving up even further in the points. Don't think he's gonna get any higher though. Unless Gordon really starts slipping, which I don't see happening. On another note, Reutimann's becoming more interesting every week. His "The Franchsie" nickname is really starting to mean something.

Hopefully Newman can spin off a win here pretty soon, so he can have some bonus points for the chase too. I read earlier though, that Jeff Gordon was quoted in saying that if it gets to where SHR starts to beat Hendrick Motorsports every week that he looks for Rick Hendrick to renegotiate the deal he has with engines and chassis with SHR. Hopefully nothing negative comes of that, with the fan base Smoke has it would surely be a negative blow to HMS, should he do something to hamper SHR being competitive. As far as Reutimann, I know him personally, hell his dads (Buzzy) house and race shop is about a mile or two up the road here in Zephyrhills. Reutimann has always been the talented driver he is today, but he got into the big leagues at a late age, back when being older than 25 was a no no for sponsors.

adamwilkes20 · 06-08-2009, 07:32 PM

the double file restarts are gonne be really something at Michigan though, cant wait. Sonoma and Watkins Glen too, those chould get interesting. I do not look forward to Bristol, Martinsville or Louden with double file restarts, those will be something

NCarolina910 · 06-08-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20

Hopefully Newman can spin off a win here pretty soon, so he can have some bonus points for the chase too. I read earlier though, that Jeff Gordon was quoted in saying that if it gets to where SHR starts to beat Hendrick Motorsports every week that he looks for Rick Hendrick to renegotiate the deal he has with engines and chassis with SHR. Hopefully nothing negative comes of that, with the fan base Smoke has it would surely be a negative blow to HMS, should he do something to hamper SHR being competitive. As far as Reutimann, I know him personally, hell his dads (Buzzy) house and race shop is about a mile or two up the road here in Zephyrhills. Reutimann has always been the talented driver he is today, but he got into the big leagues at a late age, back when being older than 25 was a no no for sponsors.

I sure hope Newman can get him a win soon.

I hadn't read that about Gordon and his comment about Hendrick's motors. Kinda pisses me off. I hope Gordon is just talking, though knowing how involved with the organization he is I wouldn't doubt it though. That'd be a real son of a bitch. Next time I talk to my friend at Hendrick I'll have to say something to him about that. Granted I can understand why he'd do it, it's all about competition, but that'd still be a bit of a shady move. And like you said, it'd piss off certain fans. Seems Childress-Earnhardt powerplants aren't cutting the mustard, so Tony and Ryan would be in trouble. Tony would probably get on Richard's case to step up his game. Can't figure out why RCR has fallen off lately.

In regard to Reutimann, it's cool to see the way the Waltrip family really helped him out through the recent years of his "professional" career. Reutimann does appear to be a real good driver who just got on the scene a little late. Hopefully this shows the trend of late, that of hiring a young driver because he's marketable, not because he can drive has (hopefully) not completely taken hold of the sport.

adamwilkes20 · 06-08-2009, 08:16 PM

here is the statement from Jeff Gordon, source foxsports.com/nascar.....The four-time champ predicted that "under the right circumstances, it can be a great relationship because we can get more from them, they can utilize our resources better and they can continue to stay a great customer."When they start being competitive with us, that's when we have to think about where they stand. They can win races — as long as we're not finishing second to 'em. Then we've got to renegotiate." Since Gordon's win at Texas, he has finished behind Stewart in six of the last seven races. For the past seven seasons, the only driver Gordon's really had to contend with was teammate Johnson. Now, the winning formula has not only left the building, but it has been tweaked into perfection by the brain trust that Stewart assembled from a variety of NASCAR's top organizations. Add an incredibly talented crew chief like former Hendrick engineer Darian Grubb into the mix and understandably SHR has developed a recipe for success.
EDIT, I dont know why it wont break up into paragraphs, sorry if it is hard to read

NCarolina910 · 06-08-2009, 08:24 PM

Nah, not hard to read, no worries. Honestly, it sounds a little whiney to me. As if Jeff is just getting pissy about not winning non-stop like he did in the late 90's. I'm not trying to just constantly down Jeff Gordon in this post, but as I read that (and it may just be the way the article is worded) it sounded as though he's just upset he's not winning like he used to and his driver who has been the cat's meow is also getting beat. It's racing. You're gonna get beat. Can't be the best forever.

adamwilkes20 · 06-08-2009, 08:31 PM

Yeah it does sound a little "Jack Roushish" to me...lol I dont doubt Jeff or Jimmies driving ability, their talent is obvious, but for Smoke to take HAAS and mold it into what it is today, with the people he has, in my opinion, moves him a step ahead talent wise of every other driver in the garage.

RedNoma · 06-08-2009, 08:43 PM

Maybe I missed something, but what's up with the scoring? I had Tony as a pick and got points on all the others, but I only got 28 points for the race.

NCarolina910 · 06-08-2009, 08:54 PM

"Jack Roushish." Very nice. I don't doubt Jimmie. He's the new Jeff Gordon. Maybe even better. I don't know about Jeff himself. I think he's past his prime. He's on the downward slope in his career. I thouht earlier this season this would be his last shot at a championship. Might have been. He's not out of it yet, but I dunno. He just doesn't seem to have it anymore. I think he's rallying for one last run at a cup this year and that'll be it. I just don't think he's got it in him anymore. He's not done yet. He's got a few years of being competetive left in him, just not championship competetive. And he'll be in the car as long as he wants to be and with the company even longer.

I like the point you make, that Tony doing what he has done on the owernship/business end all while still being a championship calibur driver puts him on another level than many of his colleagues. I think he's already shown he can handle the ownership thing and then some. He's turned a dead end team into a #1 and #4 place opperation. If he can pull this championship off it'll be even more epic.

adamwilkes20 · 06-08-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10

"Jack Roushish." Very nice. I don't doubt Jimmie. He's the new Jeff Gordon. Maybe even better. I don't know about Jeff himself. I think he's past his prime. He's on the downward slope in his career. I thouht earlier this season this would be his last shot at a championship. Might have been. He's not out of it yet, but I dunno. He just doesn't seem to have it anymore. I think he's rallying for one last run at a cup this year and that'll be it. I just don't think he's got it in him anymore. He's not done yet. He's got a few years of being competetive left in him, just not championship competetive. And he'll be in the car as long as he wants to be and with the company even longer.

I like the point you make, that Tony doing what he has done on the owernship/business end all while still being a championship calibur driver puts him on another level than many of his colleagues. I think he's already shown he can handle the ownership thing and then some. He's turned a dead end team into a #1 and #4 place opperation. If he can pull this championship off it'll be even more epic.

well , lets think about it...the man was hoping to put on the Prelude a race he promotes and founded at a track he owns and operates on Wednesday, goes to another track on Friday, runs his Cup organization, does his PR, drives the car, on Saturday wrecks a car in the first practice, then runs a back up car and in 3 laps is 7th fastest on the board, flies back to Eldora to run in the race he promotes at the track he owns, finishes 6th in that race, then flies back to Pocono, starts 43rd and goes on to win the race...the man is truly epic

NCarolina910 · 06-08-2009, 09:09 PM

indeed. can't be argued. he's good.

and to go back a few topics, if Hendrick does indeed drop support in the future, I'm sure Tony will one way or another make things work. even if he does switch to (the apparently low performing) Childress-Earnhardt engines.

adamwilkes20 · 06-08-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10

indeed. can't be argued. he's good.

and to go back a few topics, if Hendrick does indeed drop support in the future, I'm sure Tony will one way or another make things work. even if he does switch to (the apparently low performing) Childress-Earnhardt engines.

It wouldnt surprise me right now if SHR is already secretly organizing its own engine program...now should that happen and HMS backs out of supporting SHR, I hope to god that SHR takes away the key to their wind tunnel from Rick Hendrick, block all support, or try to bankrupt HMS charging them to use it...hahaha....SHR owns the only rolling wind tunnel in the US

NCarolina910 · 06-08-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20

SHR owns the only rolling wind tunnel in the US

Now that, I did not know.

I think it goes without saying that if HMS were to end his engine/chasis support, SHR would be just as "kind" to him when it comes to cooperation.

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-08-2009, 11:11 PM

tony is a co-owner... the team was already there last year he just got in.. big deal i swear people act like he built rome in a day all by himself

NCarolina910 · 06-08-2009, 11:32 PM

Yeah it was there, but seriously, look at where that team was last year. Sure it existed... not much past that.

adamwilkes20 · 06-08-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5

tony is a co-owner... the team was already there last year he just got in.. big deal i swear people act like he built rome in a day all by himself

nobody said that here, but he has taken a team who would be lucky to finish in the top 20 every weekend on their best day and made it into a championship caliber team. He did not "just get in" he went in there and hired people, fired people and shaped that whole company into what it is right now. Most of the stuff was already there, it was just putting the people in the right places and hiring the right people to use it to their advantage. Does he deserve all of the credit for that, maybe not, but yes, he deserves most of it.

Ragged97 · 06-09-2009, 12:19 AM

Tony may as well be driving Jimmie Johnson's car.

adamwilkes20 · 06-09-2009, 12:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ragged97

Tony may as well be driving Jimmie Johnson's car.

ummm no, SHR hangs their own bodies, they also do other fab work and finishing touches after wind tunnel data is compiled.

Ragged97 · 06-09-2009, 01:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20

ummm no, SHR hangs their own bodies, they also do other fab work and finishing touches after wind tunnel data is compiled.

so?

they have Hendrick engines & chassis.

it's not like Tony is doing what Robby Gordon is doing
....bulding all his own stuff.

adamwilkes20 · 06-09-2009, 03:57 AM

Robbie Gordon not outsourcing his stuff????? He doesnt build his own stuff, he gets his engines from TRD, since Bill Davis Racing is now gone the only Toyota team who is building their own engines is Gibbs, even MWR gets his engines from TRD....

adamwilkes20 · 06-09-2009, 07:18 PM

not only that, but look at how many teams Robbie Gordon has aligned with in the past, that alone causes alot of his problems cause he has never had a stable deal to help him be successful.

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-09-2009, 11:16 PM

i dont look for the stewart hass- hendrick relationship to last into next season when they put the 4 car minimum per team rule into place..

Im just saying, the building and equiptment was already in place.. the rest is easy if you have enough money and have built a good enough name for yourself aswell as in good standings with the right contacts IMO

Jeremy mayfield was a good story IMO.. Yea hes suspended right now but putting his own team together totally funded by him was respectable.. i think he finished in the top 20 at daytona and the rest was shit but its still respectable..

adamwilkes20 · 06-09-2009, 11:29 PM

the four car max rule will not affect the relationship between SHR and HMS at all. Nascar has already said they will still be allowed to sell engines and cars to other teams. Look at Roush andYates, Roush is gonna let the 26 go over to Yates where he will run Roush equipment under the Yates banner...there are ways around most the rules like that. Like NASCAR saying that each owner is only allowed 2 cars registered to them, thats why you see so many cars listed as being owned by the owners wives, sons, daughters, uncles....

NCarolina910 · 06-10-2009, 12:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5

i dont look for the stewart hass- hendrick relationship to last into next season when they put the 4 car minimum per team rule into place..

Like Adam said, SHR will be just fine. I didn't think to add this in our little discussion last night Adam, but I bet (at least for the next year) the Hendrick/Stewart-Haas relationship will be fine. They need a Hendrick satellite organization to get Keselowski in a cup car until Mark Martin leaves the #5 after next season. That is of course unless JR Motorsports goes cup, but I think putting Brad with Tony's team would be a lot easier than that. We'll see.

The Jeremy Mayfield story is sad. I used to drive by his little shop every day. I really think he's telling the truth. Why else would he be fighting it so hard if he knew he was taking illegal drugs?

adamwilkes20 · 06-10-2009, 01:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10

Like Adam said, SHR will be just fine. I didn't think to add this in our little discussion last night Adam, but I bet (at least for the next year) the Hendrick/Stewart-Haas relationship will be fine. They need a Hendrick satellite organization to get Keselowski in a cup car until Mark Martin leaves the #5 after next season. That is of course unless JR Motorsports goes cup, but I think putting Brad with Tony's team would be a lot easier than that. We'll see.

The Jeremy Mayfield story is sad. I used to drive by his little shop every day. I really think he's telling the truth. Why else would he be fighting it so hard if he knew he was taking illegal drugs?

I agree with you on the HMS/SHR relationship...but I dont see SHR adding Kaselowski to the roster UNLESS Rick Hendrick gives him a friendly altimatum(spelling)..I was kind of hoping, but I know it wont happen, but I was hoping that Martin Truex Jr would make his way over to SHR, given Tonys relationship with Bass Pro Shops and Bass Pro I believe will remain loyal to Truex and go with him where ever he goes. But I see him taking over the 55 car at MWR

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-10-2009, 01:29 AM

GOD keep that kelesaki kid or whatever his name is out of cup..

truex will go to MWR im sure, his little brother is already with MWR.
Mikey needs to quit racing and focus on being an owner.. if given the right equiptment he will have a good team with reuterman and truex.

Mayfield I dont know about.. I know alot of his family and they all LOVE their weed.. Now I cant judge on that but i just dont know. I really think that nascar is using him as a example as the drug specifics that were banned wasnt even on a list available to drivers..

And I think they need to give cousin carl a drug test b/c hell.. hes in all the comercials talking about how he gets doped up on claritin D. LOL

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-10-2009, 01:33 AM

http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/head...ort/index.html

This is bullshit, if he tested positive for meth or not where is the privacy act?

**terryl** · 06-10-2009, 01:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5

Mayfield I dont know about.. I know alot of his family and they all LOVE their weed..

You questioned the privacy act. Where is the privacy act with this statement by you? I don't give a shit but was just wondering.

NCarolina910 · 06-10-2009, 02:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20

I agree with you on the HMS/SHR relationship...but I dont see SHR adding Kaselowski to the roster UNLESS Rick Hendrick gives him a friendly altimatum(spelling)..I was kind of hoping, but I know it wont happen, but I was hoping that Martin Truex Jr would make his way over to SHR, given Tonys relationship with Bass Pro Shops and Bass Pro I believe will remain loyal to Truex and go with him where ever he goes. But I see him taking over the 55 car at MWR

Well you know there would be some type of very strict contract workings going on to make sure if SHR got Keselowski it would only be for one season until a seat opened up at Hendrick and Tony couldn't hold an option on him or anything of that nature. Plus that would leave an empty car at SHR that could potentially create a problem. I would like to see Truex at Stewart-Haas myself, but I think the writing is on the wall that he's headed to MWR.

Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5

GOD keep that kelesaki kid or whatever his name is out of cup..

Why?!

adamwilkes20 · 06-10-2009, 02:10 AM

I have always liked Mayfield, it seemed like he was always the driver most willing to let the media into his personal life and follow him around night and day. Also, I have no problem with Brad Kaselowski or however you spell it, lol...just as long as he doesnt let it get to his head like he did earlier in his career with Jr Motorsports

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-10-2009, 02:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by terryl

You questioned the privacy act. Where is the privacy act with this statement by you? I don't give a shit but was just wondering.

umm, that has nothing do do with ANYTHING!!! alittle different saying some nameless people love their weed.. and posting on nascar.com that the drug was heard from ESPN that the drug was meth.. WTF are they posting that for? They arent supposed to say athing due to the GAG order.. NASCAR knows WTF its for and they post on their page that its rumored through ESPN magazine that the drug in question was meth?

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-10-2009, 02:12 AM

I dislike JR.. so I dislike JR JR aswell.. Judging by his only sprint cup win he isnt ready for cup racing..

adamwilkes20 · 06-10-2009, 02:20 AM

nascar.com is not owned by nascar though, I believe Turner owns the site

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-10-2009, 02:25 AM

well thats pretty weird if its true..

NCarolina910 · 06-10-2009, 02:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5

well thats pretty weird if its true..

yup. tis true

Quote:

Turner Sports Interactive, a Time Warner Company, acquired all of NASCAR's interactive rights in October 2000 and became the exclusive producer of NASCAR.COM, the official site of NASCAR, in January 2001. Turner Sports Interactive bases its NASCAR.COM staff in Atlanta, with additional personnel in Charlotte and Daytona. In addition, the site has personnel at the tracks, giving NASCAR.COM the ability to break news stories on-site around the clock.

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-10-2009, 02:57 AM

wow, I despise time warner.. This would explain why EVERYTIME i order something off their site I get something totally different. It happened 3 times and they wouldnt do anything about it so i will not do business with them again

Ragged97 · 06-10-2009, 05:56 AM

on a side note how annoying is Bill Webber on TNT?

"and here come kyle busch in the 18......
he enters his pit stall, they take all 5 lug nuts off, there goes his jackman tot he other side......kyle takes a sip of water.........ohh I think kyle needed that......and now he's out"

he's more annoying than DW is

NCarolina910 · 06-10-2009, 02:44 PM

Something annoying I noticed about TNT's coverage, and yall tell me if I'm wrong here, but it seems as though they don't turn down the sound of the cars going around and try and just talk over it.

I miss Fox's coverage. They have the best all year.

adamwilkes20 · 06-10-2009, 05:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ragged97

on a side note how annoying is Bill Webber on TNT?

"and here come kyle busch in the 18......
he enters his pit stall, they take all 5 lug nuts off, there goes his jackman tot he other side......kyle takes a sip of water.........ohh I think kyle needed that......and now he's out"

he's more annoying than DW is

I would much rather hear Bill than Kyle Petty..........or DW than Kyle Petty

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-10-2009, 05:42 PM

I know alot of people dislike DW.. but as a kid he was my favorite so i still got alot of respect for the man. TNT is all about commercials

NCarolina910 · 06-10-2009, 05:58 PM

Yeah, he can be a bit John Maddenish, but DW is my favorite announcer.

TNT does have shit ton of commercials. And like I said, their audio bugs me too.

adamwilkes20 · 06-10-2009, 06:09 PM

ESPN's audio have been buggin the shit out of me for the past 3 Nationwide races, it seems that when they are talking from the desk and showing video of the cars, the audio becomes scratchy

~~2toneSdime5~~ · 06-10-2009, 06:38 PM

I actually noticed that about the anouncers not being loud enough!!

Another thing that REALLY irritated me is the ticker across the top of the screen.. at one second you could see 2 names up there, but it you missed it it was half of one and a whole one.. they had so much space and really just needed to make it go across the whole top of the screen.. it was abnoxious.

I was suprised at the fact that they left the actual race screen a decent size.. I could swear TNT was the chanel that has so many top and side and bottom bars that on a 42" tv you cant see anything after all of that

adamwilkes20 · 06-10-2009, 07:02 PM

you are probably talking about when TNT broadcasts the Coke Zero 400 (F.K.A The Pepsi 400). TNT broadcasts that race is 16:9 widescreen format and puts the ads on verticle and horizontal bars on the bottom and sides of the picture
I will say this though, the Nashville race broadcast by ESPN on Saturday looked damn near brilliant on my 42 inch Philips HDTV...I just wish I had a 5:1 system

Ragged97 · 06-13-2009, 01:06 PM

I used to mute the tv and play MRN Radio through the stereo.
they make the most boring race sound exciting.

adamwilkes20 · 06-13-2009, 07:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ragged97

I used to mute the tv and play MRN Radio through the stereo.
they make the most boring race sound exciting.

I would totally do that, but our AM reception is shitty, all I can pick up here are church stations and Latin stations

Ragged97 · 06-18-2009, 05:59 AM

Can't wait for Sonoma this weekend!

bad03xtreme · 06-18-2009, 07:45 AM

I am glad there are only 2 road races a year...

NCarolina910 · 06-18-2009, 03:17 PM

me too man. I think the only enjoyable NASCAR road race I've ever watched is that Canadian Busch race where they put on rain tires and windshield wipers and let them race in the rain.

Ragged97 · 06-18-2009, 11:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10

me too man. I think the only enjoyable NASCAR road race I've ever watched is that Canadian Busch race where they put on rain tires and windshield wipers and let them race in the rain.

that was awesome! they should do that EVERYTIME it rains. I cant tell you how pissed off I get when a race is rained out!

also u guys don't like the road races? man I think they are fun to watch them boys coming off the rumble strips, one side of the car off the ground, i think that is bad ass. watching tony stewart win a road race after he pooped his pants..........muwahahah

06-08-2009, 07:20 PM	#201
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20 WOOHOO my boy won the race....that was probably the best Pocono race I have seen in a long time if not ever. It was good to see that the leader couldnt get some huge 9 second lead like in Pocono races before Tony still pulled away a good bit, but I know what you're saying. It was about as good as a Pocono race can be. Bout as boring as last week's Dover race was. So glad Tony finally won him a points race as an owner and pumped about Newman moving up even further in the points. Don't think he's gonna get any higher though, unless Gordon really starts slipping, which I don't see happening. On another note, Reutimann's becoming more interesting every week. His "The Franchsie" nickname is really starting to mean something.
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06-08-2009, 07:26 PM	#202
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10 Tony still pulled away a good bit, but I know what you're saying. It was about as good as a Pocono race can be. Bout as boring as last week's Dover race was. So glad Tony finally won him a points race as an owner and pumped about Newman moving up even further in the points. Don't think he's gonna get any higher though. Unless Gordon really starts slipping, which I don't see happening. On another note, Reutimann's becoming more interesting every week. His "The Franchsie" nickname is really starting to mean something. Hopefully Newman can spin off a win here pretty soon, so he can have some bonus points for the chase too. I read earlier though, that Jeff Gordon was quoted in saying that if it gets to where SHR starts to beat Hendrick Motorsports every week that he looks for Rick Hendrick to renegotiate the deal he has with engines and chassis with SHR. Hopefully nothing negative comes of that, with the fan base Smoke has it would surely be a negative blow to HMS, should he do something to hamper SHR being competitive. As far as Reutimann, I know him personally, hell his dads (Buzzy) house and race shop is about a mile or two up the road here in Zephyrhills. Reutimann has always been the talented driver he is today, but he got into the big leagues at a late age, back when being older than 25 was a no no for sponsors.
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06-08-2009, 07:32 PM	#203
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? the double file restarts are gonne be really something at Michigan though, cant wait. Sonoma and Watkins Glen too, those chould get interesting. I do not look forward to Bristol, Martinsville or Louden with double file restarts, those will be something
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06-08-2009, 08:07 PM	#204
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20 Hopefully Newman can spin off a win here pretty soon, so he can have some bonus points for the chase too. I read earlier though, that Jeff Gordon was quoted in saying that if it gets to where SHR starts to beat Hendrick Motorsports every week that he looks for Rick Hendrick to renegotiate the deal he has with engines and chassis with SHR. Hopefully nothing negative comes of that, with the fan base Smoke has it would surely be a negative blow to HMS, should he do something to hamper SHR being competitive. As far as Reutimann, I know him personally, hell his dads (Buzzy) house and race shop is about a mile or two up the road here in Zephyrhills. Reutimann has always been the talented driver he is today, but he got into the big leagues at a late age, back when being older than 25 was a no no for sponsors. I sure hope Newman can get him a win soon. I hadn't read that about Gordon and his comment about Hendrick's motors. Kinda pisses me off. I hope Gordon is just talking, though knowing how involved with the organization he is I wouldn't doubt it though. That'd be a real son of a bitch. Next time I talk to my friend at Hendrick I'll have to say something to him about that. Granted I can understand why he'd do it, it's all about competition, but that'd still be a bit of a shady move. And like you said, it'd piss off certain fans. Seems Childress-Earnhardt powerplants aren't cutting the mustard, so Tony and Ryan would be in trouble. Tony would probably get on Richard's case to step up his game. Can't figure out why RCR has fallen off lately. In regard to Reutimann, it's cool to see the way the Waltrip family really helped him out through the recent years of his "professional" career. Reutimann does appear to be a real good driver who just got on the scene a little late. Hopefully this shows the trend of late, that of hiring a young driver because he's marketable, not because he can drive has (hopefully) not completely taken hold of the sport.
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06-08-2009, 08:16 PM	#205
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? here is the statement from Jeff Gordon, source foxsports.com/nascar.....The four-time champ predicted that "under the right circumstances, it can be a great relationship because we can get more from them, they can utilize our resources better and they can continue to stay a great customer."When they start being competitive with us, that's when we have to think about where they stand. They can win races — as long as we're not finishing second to 'em. Then we've got to renegotiate." Since Gordon's win at Texas, he has finished behind Stewart in six of the last seven races. For the past seven seasons, the only driver Gordon's really had to contend with was teammate Johnson. Now, the winning formula has not only left the building, but it has been tweaked into perfection by the brain trust that Stewart assembled from a variety of NASCAR's top organizations. Add an incredibly talented crew chief like former Hendrick engineer Darian Grubb into the mix and understandably SHR has developed a recipe for success. EDIT, I dont know why it wont break up into paragraphs, sorry if it is hard to read Last edited by adamwilkes20 : 06-08-2009 at 08:19 PM.
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06-08-2009, 08:24 PM	#206
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Nah, not hard to read, no worries. Honestly, it sounds a little whiney to me. As if Jeff is just getting pissy about not winning non-stop like he did in the late 90's. I'm not trying to just constantly down Jeff Gordon in this post, but as I read that (and it may just be the way the article is worded) it sounded as though he's just upset he's not winning like he used to and his driver who has been the cat's meow is also getting beat. It's racing. You're gonna get beat. Can't be the best forever.
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06-08-2009, 08:31 PM	#207
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Yeah it does sound a little "Jack Roushish" to me...lol I dont doubt Jeff or Jimmies driving ability, their talent is obvious, but for Smoke to take HAAS and mold it into what it is today, with the people he has, in my opinion, moves him a step ahead talent wise of every other driver in the garage.
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06-08-2009, 08:43 PM	#208
RedNoma . Age: 21 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10,882 Location: south central KY User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Maybe I missed something, but what's up with the scoring? I had Tony as a pick and got points on all the others, but I only got 28 points for the race.
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06-08-2009, 08:54 PM	#209
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? "Jack Roushish." Very nice. I don't doubt Jimmie. He's the new Jeff Gordon. Maybe even better. I don't know about Jeff himself. I think he's past his prime. He's on the downward slope in his career. I thouht earlier this season this would be his last shot at a championship. Might have been. He's not out of it yet, but I dunno. He just doesn't seem to have it anymore. I think he's rallying for one last run at a cup this year and that'll be it. I just don't think he's got it in him anymore. He's not done yet. He's got a few years of being competetive left in him, just not championship competetive. And he'll be in the car as long as he wants to be and with the company even longer. I like the point you make, that Tony doing what he has done on the owernship/business end all while still being a championship calibur driver puts him on another level than many of his colleagues. I think he's already shown he can handle the ownership thing and then some. He's turned a dead end team into a #1 and #4 place opperation. If he can pull this championship off it'll be even more epic.
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06-08-2009, 09:05 PM	#210
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10 "Jack Roushish." Very nice. I don't doubt Jimmie. He's the new Jeff Gordon. Maybe even better. I don't know about Jeff himself. I think he's past his prime. He's on the downward slope in his career. I thouht earlier this season this would be his last shot at a championship. Might have been. He's not out of it yet, but I dunno. He just doesn't seem to have it anymore. I think he's rallying for one last run at a cup this year and that'll be it. I just don't think he's got it in him anymore. He's not done yet. He's got a few years of being competetive left in him, just not championship competetive. And he'll be in the car as long as he wants to be and with the company even longer. I like the point you make, that Tony doing what he has done on the owernship/business end all while still being a championship calibur driver puts him on another level than many of his colleagues. I think he's already shown he can handle the ownership thing and then some. He's turned a dead end team into a #1 and #4 place opperation. If he can pull this championship off it'll be even more epic. well , lets think about it...the man was hoping to put on the Prelude a race he promotes and founded at a track he owns and operates on Wednesday, goes to another track on Friday, runs his Cup organization, does his PR, drives the car, on Saturday wrecks a car in the first practice, then runs a back up car and in 3 laps is 7th fastest on the board, flies back to Eldora to run in the race he promotes at the track he owns, finishes 6th in that race, then flies back to Pocono, starts 43rd and goes on to win the race...the man is truly epic
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06-08-2009, 09:09 PM	#211
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? indeed. can't be argued. he's good. and to go back a few topics, if Hendrick does indeed drop support in the future, I'm sure Tony will one way or another make things work. even if he does switch to (the apparently low performing) Childress-Earnhardt engines.
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06-08-2009, 09:16 PM	#212
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10 indeed. can't be argued. he's good. and to go back a few topics, if Hendrick does indeed drop support in the future, I'm sure Tony will one way or another make things work. even if he does switch to (the apparently low performing) Childress-Earnhardt engines. It wouldnt surprise me right now if SHR is already secretly organizing its own engine program...now should that happen and HMS backs out of supporting SHR, I hope to god that SHR takes away the key to their wind tunnel from Rick Hendrick, block all support, or try to bankrupt HMS charging them to use it...hahaha....SHR owns the only rolling wind tunnel in the US
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06-08-2009, 09:21 PM	#213
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20 SHR owns the only rolling wind tunnel in the US Now that, I did not know. I think it goes without saying that if HMS were to end his engine/chasis support, SHR would be just as "kind" to him when it comes to cooperation.
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06-08-2009, 11:11 PM	#214
~~2toneSdime5~~ Banned Age: 26 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 989 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? tony is a co-owner... the team was already there last year he just got in.. big deal i swear people act like he built rome in a day all by himself Last edited by 2toneSdime5 : 06-08-2009 at 11:16 PM.
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06-08-2009, 11:32 PM	#215
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Yeah it was there, but seriously, look at where that team was last year. Sure it existed... not much past that.
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06-08-2009, 11:33 PM	#216
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5 tony is a co-owner... the team was already there last year he just got in.. big deal i swear people act like he built rome in a day all by himself nobody said that here, but he has taken a team who would be lucky to finish in the top 20 every weekend on their best day and made it into a championship caliber team. He did not "just get in" he went in there and hired people, fired people and shaped that whole company into what it is right now. Most of the stuff was already there, it was just putting the people in the right places and hiring the right people to use it to their advantage. Does he deserve all of the credit for that, maybe not, but yes, he deserves most of it.
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06-09-2009, 12:19 AM	#217
Ragged97 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 599 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Tony may as well be driving Jimmie Johnson's car.
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06-09-2009, 12:50 AM	#218
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by Ragged97 Tony may as well be driving Jimmie Johnson's car. ummm no, SHR hangs their own bodies, they also do other fab work and finishing touches after wind tunnel data is compiled.
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06-09-2009, 01:52 AM	#219
Ragged97 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 599 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20 ummm no, SHR hangs their own bodies, they also do other fab work and finishing touches after wind tunnel data is compiled. so? they have Hendrick engines & chassis. it's not like Tony is doing what Robby Gordon is doing ....bulding all his own stuff.
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06-09-2009, 03:57 AM	#220
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Robbie Gordon not outsourcing his stuff????? He doesnt build his own stuff, he gets his engines from TRD, since Bill Davis Racing is now gone the only Toyota team who is building their own engines is Gibbs, even MWR gets his engines from TRD....
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06-09-2009, 07:18 PM	#221
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? not only that, but look at how many teams Robbie Gordon has aligned with in the past, that alone causes alot of his problems cause he has never had a stable deal to help him be successful.
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06-09-2009, 11:16 PM	#222
~~2toneSdime5~~ Banned Age: 26 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 989 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? i dont look for the stewart hass- hendrick relationship to last into next season when they put the 4 car minimum per team rule into place.. Im just saying, the building and equiptment was already in place.. the rest is easy if you have enough money and have built a good enough name for yourself aswell as in good standings with the right contacts IMO Jeremy mayfield was a good story IMO.. Yea hes suspended right now but putting his own team together totally funded by him was respectable.. i think he finished in the top 20 at daytona and the rest was shit but its still respectable..
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06-09-2009, 11:29 PM	#223
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? the four car max rule will not affect the relationship between SHR and HMS at all. Nascar has already said they will still be allowed to sell engines and cars to other teams. Look at Roush andYates, Roush is gonna let the 26 go over to Yates where he will run Roush equipment under the Yates banner...there are ways around most the rules like that. Like NASCAR saying that each owner is only allowed 2 cars registered to them, thats why you see so many cars listed as being owned by the owners wives, sons, daughters, uncles....
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06-10-2009, 12:39 AM	#224
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5 i dont look for the stewart hass- hendrick relationship to last into next season when they put the 4 car minimum per team rule into place.. Like Adam said, SHR will be just fine. I didn't think to add this in our little discussion last night Adam, but I bet (at least for the next year) the Hendrick/Stewart-Haas relationship will be fine. They need a Hendrick satellite organization to get Keselowski in a cup car until Mark Martin leaves the #5 after next season. That is of course unless JR Motorsports goes cup, but I think putting Brad with Tony's team would be a lot easier than that. We'll see. The Jeremy Mayfield story is sad. I used to drive by his little shop every day. I really think he's telling the truth. Why else would he be fighting it so hard if he knew he was taking illegal drugs? Last edited by NCarolina910 : 06-10-2009 at 12:43 AM.
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06-10-2009, 01:08 AM	#225
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by NCarolinaS10 Like Adam said, SHR will be just fine. I didn't think to add this in our little discussion last night Adam, but I bet (at least for the next year) the Hendrick/Stewart-Haas relationship will be fine. They need a Hendrick satellite organization to get Keselowski in a cup car until Mark Martin leaves the #5 after next season. That is of course unless JR Motorsports goes cup, but I think putting Brad with Tony's team would be a lot easier than that. We'll see. The Jeremy Mayfield story is sad. I used to drive by his little shop every day. I really think he's telling the truth. Why else would he be fighting it so hard if he knew he was taking illegal drugs? I agree with you on the HMS/SHR relationship...but I dont see SHR adding Kaselowski to the roster UNLESS Rick Hendrick gives him a friendly altimatum(spelling)..I was kind of hoping, but I know it wont happen, but I was hoping that Martin Truex Jr would make his way over to SHR, given Tonys relationship with Bass Pro Shops and Bass Pro I believe will remain loyal to Truex and go with him where ever he goes. But I see him taking over the 55 car at MWR
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06-10-2009, 01:29 AM	#226
~~2toneSdime5~~ Banned Age: 26 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 989 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? GOD keep that kelesaki kid or whatever his name is out of cup.. truex will go to MWR im sure, his little brother is already with MWR. Mikey needs to quit racing and focus on being an owner.. if given the right equiptment he will have a good team with reuterman and truex. Mayfield I dont know about.. I know alot of his family and they all LOVE their weed.. Now I cant judge on that but i just dont know. I really think that nascar is using him as a example as the drug specifics that were banned wasnt even on a list available to drivers.. And I think they need to give cousin carl a drug test b/c hell.. hes in all the comercials talking about how he gets doped up on claritin D. LOL
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06-10-2009, 01:33 AM	#227
~~2toneSdime5~~ Banned Age: 26 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 989 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/head...ort/index.html This is bullshit, if he tested positive for meth or not where is the privacy act?
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06-10-2009, 01:41 AM	#228
terryl Thanks For Your Support Age: 52 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,645 Location: Kingston Springs, TN. User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5 Mayfield I dont know about.. I know alot of his family and they all LOVE their weed.. You questioned the privacy act. Where is the privacy act with this statement by you? I don't give a shit but was just wondering.
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06-10-2009, 02:00 AM	#229
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by adamwilkes20 I agree with you on the HMS/SHR relationship...but I dont see SHR adding Kaselowski to the roster UNLESS Rick Hendrick gives him a friendly altimatum(spelling)..I was kind of hoping, but I know it wont happen, but I was hoping that Martin Truex Jr would make his way over to SHR, given Tonys relationship with Bass Pro Shops and Bass Pro I believe will remain loyal to Truex and go with him where ever he goes. But I see him taking over the 55 car at MWR Well you know there would be some type of very strict contract workings going on to make sure if SHR got Keselowski it would only be for one season until a seat opened up at Hendrick and Tony couldn't hold an option on him or anything of that nature. Plus that would leave an empty car at SHR that could potentially create a problem. I would like to see Truex at Stewart-Haas myself, but I think the writing is on the wall that he's headed to MWR. Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5 GOD keep that kelesaki kid or whatever his name is out of cup.. Why?!
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06-10-2009, 02:10 AM	#230
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? I have always liked Mayfield, it seemed like he was always the driver most willing to let the media into his personal life and follow him around night and day. Also, I have no problem with Brad Kaselowski or however you spell it, lol...just as long as he doesnt let it get to his head like he did earlier in his career with Jr Motorsports Last edited by adamwilkes20 : 06-10-2009 at 02:12 AM.
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06-10-2009, 02:10 AM	#231
~~2toneSdime5~~ Banned Age: 26 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 989 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by terryl You questioned the privacy act. Where is the privacy act with this statement by you? I don't give a shit but was just wondering. umm, that has nothing do do with ANYTHING!!! alittle different saying some nameless people love their weed.. and posting on nascar.com that the drug was heard from ESPN that the drug was meth.. WTF are they posting that for? They arent supposed to say athing due to the GAG order.. NASCAR knows WTF its for and they post on their page that its rumored through ESPN magazine that the drug in question was meth?
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06-10-2009, 02:12 AM	#232
~~2toneSdime5~~ Banned Age: 26 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 989 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? I dislike JR.. so I dislike JR JR aswell.. Judging by his only sprint cup win he isnt ready for cup racing..
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06-10-2009, 02:20 AM	#233
adamwilkes20 DiRT 2 fannatic Age: 31 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,043 Location: Zephyrhills,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? nascar.com is not owned by nascar though, I believe Turner owns the site
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06-10-2009, 02:25 AM	#234
~~2toneSdime5~~ Banned Age: 26 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 989 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? well thats pretty weird if its true..
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06-10-2009, 02:34 AM	#235
NCarolina910 no more S10 Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17,327 Location: North Carolina User is: OffLine	Re: Fantasy Nascar Anyone???? Quote: Originally Posted by 2toneSdime5 well thats pretty weird if its true.. yup. tis true Quote: Turner Sports Interactive, a Time Warner Company, acquired all of NASCAR's interactive rights in October 2000 and became the exclusive producer of NASCAR.COM, the official site of NASCAR, in January 2001. Turner Sports Interactive bases its NASCAR.COM staff in Atlanta, with additional personnel in Charlotte and Daytona. In addition, the site has personnel at the tracks, giving NASCAR.COM the ability to break news stories on-site around the clock.
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