tubular upper control arms

[HemiChallenger]

Who sells the tubular upper control arms for our trucks that are cheap and good quality? I've been searching and havent gotten very far. If I remember they were like $80-$100 for a pair.

[HemiChallenger]

Might these be them??? http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Chrome...-Arm,4853.html

[mostizzle]

man those are cheap! but i don't see where it says they fit s10's. i believe G body uppers work on our trucks too. did u search s10 parts when those popped up? if so i'm buyin sum,i see a dude on craigslist from time to time sellin tubular uppers with steel or aluminum cross shafts with bearings instead of bushings and moog balljoints for like 150 i think and he's downriver if u wanna keep an eye out for those. lemme know what u find out about the ones at speedwaymotors tho. BTW where at in d town are ya?

[psycho-sid]

anyone have these?

[cooljoe900]

I do and I like them. I dont see having any problems with them since they are chrome moly and built for race cars. They are a standard GM metric control arm but you need two of one side, i think two rights b/c they are 8" and just flip one over for the left side. I can find the part # i used if you need it.

[mostizzle]

^^^yes please^^^

[Render78]

hey man, lemme know about these too

[rentedmule]

Check with UB Machine as well. I just ordered a set specific for the tall balljoint swap but I'm sure they also make standard g-body versions as well. $65 per arm powdercoated and with steel bushings.

[White96ZQ8]

Those ones from speedway motors are a deal, and they come with the aluminum cross shaft. Anyone know what type of bushing they use?

[White96ZQ8]

I emailed them about the bushing, they said there is no bushing in the control arm because it is made for an off road application.

[mostizzle]

yikes

[cooljoe900]

The part is #910-34393-R. Yeah I would say they are more like a nylon style pivot thats greasable. I would think the stress of a street driven vehicle is going to be much less than a race car. With normal maint. on them and inspection they should be fine.

[mostizzle]

so no mods to install em and they're greasable? and thats the part number for em at speedway rite?

[White96ZQ8]

They have grease fittings on each end. Have you noticed much of an effect on your ride joe?

[HemiChallenger]

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/IMCA-A...-Arm,2120.html

Looks like them.

[mostizzle]

i'd say so,i see why you need two rights cuz of the leftys bein a half inch wider for circle track

[cooljoe900]

Quote: Originally Posted by White96ZQ8

They have grease fittings on each end. Have you noticed much of an effect on your ride joe?

Well its hard to say since i never drove the truck before installing them. With 350# springs and the coilovers on the eighth setting its stiff. I corners flat with little bump steer and good road feel. I also have flaming river u-joints on both sides of the steering shaft so that helps tighten up the steering too. It rides twice as stiff as my Monte SS with 750# springs in the front but thats prob. b/c of the adjustable coilovers. Yes, they have grease fittings on both ends.


mostizzle - yeah thats the part # off my invoice from speedway. I was thinking about if you got the longer ones if you were going to do airbags in the front. The half inch may help the negative comber issues and also give more room at the firewall when aired out b/c now the top of the tire is a half inch farther out.

[mostizzle]

thats a good point joe but meh,let the bagged guys suffer lol jk

[cooljoe900]

Quote: Originally Posted by mostizzle

thats a good point joe but meh,let the bagged guys suffer lol jk

Haha yeah Im going to stay static for a while, plus spending $500 on coilovers helps make that decision too!

[mostizzle]

Quote: Originally Posted by cooljoe900

Haha yeah Im going to stay static for a while, plus spending $500 on coilovers helps make that decision too!

absolutely lol, i been lookin at sum coilovers on cachassisworks.com that are pretty slick for a lil cheaper than the QA1's too.i just think everybody in the world need to send me a dollar is that too much to ask? i don't think so

[Kmaroman]

So will those work on my truck ? what do you mean you need 2 rights? won't they be messed up that way

[cooljoe900]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kmaroman

So will those work on my truck ? what do you mean you need 2 rights? won't they be messed up that way

You need two rights b/c the left side is 1/2" longer for more positive camber on a circle track car. The right side control arm is 8" which is the same length as a stock arm. You just need to flip on over and it works on the left side.

[mknight759]

Quote: Originally Posted by cooljoe900

The part is #910-34393-R. Yeah I would say they are more like a nylon style pivot thats greasable. I would think the stress of a street driven vehicle is going to be much less than a race car. With normal maint. on them and inspection they should be fine.

Well you convinced me I just ordered 2 91031133-R same part as you just in the chrome moly they should be a little stronger and was only a few dollars more

[juddspaintballs]

direct replacement for a 4wd?

[cooljoe900]

Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs

direct replacement for a 4wd?

No I dont think so. These are for a standard GM metric 2wd suspension aka S10, Monte Carlo, Cutless, Regal, Grand Prix.

[juddspaintballs]

too bad. oh well

[Red Sled]

Just joined guys. I purchased the upper and lower arms from Spohn. I'm also doing the tall spindle swap for the bigger brakes and dual piston calipers from a 98 S10 Blazer. The control arms were very pricey, but so far they look very well built and not to mention...sooo pretty. Will get pictures and post the swap as I go. Wonder of any of you guys attempted this swap before? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[sonoma91]

i got some brand new fbi ones with billet cross shafts for sale!!! still in box!! 450

[AndrewH]

does anyone have pictures of these speedway arms,other than on the site? installed or otherwise?

[cooljoe900]

[96Blaze81]

Quote: Originally Posted by cooljoe900

I dont know if anyone noticed, but these control arms are not symetrical. By using two rights, you are putting negative caster into the left side and throwing out the alignment. The proper way is to get one left and one right and use shims

[mostizzle]

prove it! lol

[96Blaze81]

Quote: Originally Posted by mostizzle

prove it! lol

I've done it

[mknight759]

i bought them they look the same to me if you flip one over looks like they match pretty good

[mostizzle]

exactly lol

[95S15gUy]

Is the header clearance for a sbc significant enough to get these?

[cooljoe900]

I never used the stock arms to know how much clearance you get but looking at other peoples pics. i would say yes.

[95S15gUy]

you dont have to use tall spindles with them do you? What exactly are those for anyway? just for upgrading brakes?

[cooljoe900]

No you dont have to use them. Tall spindles help with handling b/c it changes the camber curve during suspension movement. Also most spindle swaps use a larger rotor for better braking too.

[russ_2004_85]

can you do the tall spindle with only upper tubulars? dont need to get lower tubulars?

[95S15gUy]

Hey Joe, how low did you lower your truck and what size rims do you have? i like your stance.

[cooljoe900]

Quote: Originally Posted by russ_2004_85

can you do the tall spindle with only upper tubulars? dont need to get lower tubulars?

Yes I think you have to use tubular uppers but I think the stock lowers will work fine.



95S15gUy - Thanks. I used 3" drop leafs and 2" blocks. I got the springs off Ebay but I dont remember the name of the company. They are very tight and it rides awesome. The wheels are 18x7 front and 18x8 rear.

[AndrewH]

So there is no downward bend of the arms, and the balljoint mount is completely parallel with the tubing? thats the only way you could flip them from side to side.

[cooljoe900]

Quote: Originally Posted by AndrewH

So there is no downward bend of the arms, and the balljoint mount is completely parallel with the tubing? thats the only way you could flip them from side to side.

You got it!

[b00nd0x]

I bought 1 of these today from my local race shop (just like Speedways) for
$49.95 which would have been $53.78 but I only had $50 until payday so I jewed him down since I'll be using his shop to build my 92 Sonoma GT into a nice little cruiser toy. Both measure out the same = left vs right .... Guess Speedway's are flukes or specially ordered out that way . These are just as tough n sturdy as Suicidedoor's or any other IMHO & for what you pay for them worth the money vs the "name". I'll probably run some Suicidedoor's ball joints & other parts though

[cooljoe900]

The speedways are longer on the left side for more positive camber for circle track cars that only turn left. There are other companies that do make both sides 8" but buying two right sides work too.

[dusterbd13]

theres another option.
UB machine sells them for about 110 a pair, powder coad. we made them to do the tall ball joint swap for increased handling. call tony out there, and hell hook you up.

[2002reds10]

Quote: Originally Posted by cooljoe900

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I am searching and with the upper control arm from speedway, I order 2 right arms and they wont kill my alignment? (i know I will have to do an alignment after anyway but i just dont want to screw everything up on my daily driver) oh its a 2002 s10 reg cab 2wd 2.2 5spd. I am off to look at the ideas for a lower control arm, also I like the spindles from like jegs for $175 to lower 2" but you said something about taller spindles? Let me know whats up, Thanks!

[rentedmule]

Tall spindles fix geometry problems but they're expensive ($1K+). You can accomplish a lot of the same geometry fixes with tall ball joints (check proforged.com) and they're relatively cheap. Tubular lower control arms are going to be expensive and they generally don't do much for handling. They have benefits for mounting coilovers or for giving extra clearance for drops but that's really it.

[2002reds10]

Quote: Originally Posted by rentedmule

Tall spindles fix geometry problems but they're expensive ($1K+). You can accomplish a lot of the same geometry fixes with tall ball joints (check proforged.com) and they're relatively cheap. Tubular lower control arms are going to be expensive and they generally don't do much for handling. They have benefits for mounting coilovers or for giving extra clearance for drops but that's really it.

so I should put my money somewhere else and just put new shocks on and drop spindles? I mean its not like I race or anything I just want a nice daily driver and since I get lots of snow here I might just leave it stock height for snow issues. Also I just need a project that isnt an oil change lol need something to do