Project: Suicidal

[pearl91chevy]

well since everything got deleted im not gonna post everything back up picture wise.. but if anyone wants to see them i will.. but im pretty much gonna start where i left off on here, as far as plans go.. tilt bed, suicide doors, suicide tailgate, tailight shavers, become rust-free.. and so on..
well heres a pic from about a week ago with the nice rusty bed..

Also have the truck almost stripped down for wirebrushing.. its takin a long time..




Then the airbag bracket for the tilt bed is made, just gotta clean it up..

Got the headlight things hooked up..

After searching for a good 2 weeks i finnaly found a company that makes the bed brackets for underneath.. not to bad on price, replacment panel-30$, the bed supports for 2 of them-60.. and then the big peice in the back, idk what its called cost a good 110$.. there called browns, i can get the site if anyone needs it..

[suicidal]

...i love 1st gen builds.

[jman]

projects looking good. if you wouldn't mind, could you post up the site for those replacement panels?

[pearl91chevy]

http://cooltruckparts.com/905.aspx

[pearl91chevy]

well hopfully today ill have some more pics.. my beater had a big shit on me and i spent 3 days fixin the problem and tryin to get parts..

[pearl91chevy]

alright guys.. finnaly started working on the truck again after 5 days.. been really busy with other stuff.. but here on some pics.. i started wirebrushing that driveshaft and acaully if i go long enough it takes away all that pitting which under it is all smooth clean metal, so i guess im makin progress lol, also i got my last replacment panel for underneith the bed..

Almost lol its just sitting there..

this took bout an hour..
and the driveshaft

[pearl91chevy]

ALright guys.. last night was a good one.. i got the bed tilting by man power and im very happy about that.. my welding teacher and i welded up some brackets in the class for this and i thank him for helpin me whenever i need it.. also my friend nick came over to help me lift the bed off and on a few times and he got into this to with me and got really excited.. we got the bed tilting at around 930 or so but heres the pics

[DCSHOECOUSA]

nice!

[pearl91chevy]

hopefully 2night i can get the other bracket made for the bag and this should lift 2night with the airbag.. thats what im shootin for..

[purevil115]

ok I have to know how you got the headlights todo that I know its prolly simple but what did you use I want todo that.

[Myst]

looks awesome ...I never really understood how you do that with a tilt bed until now ...if my suspension was nice I'd do the same...lol...what bag are you using ...a triple conv.?

[pearl91chevy]

as for the headlights, i bought them off ebay, i think they were 40 all tog and there the conversion lights which instead of replacing the whole light when it goes out, u can just replace the bulb but the bulbs cost around 50$ all tog....
the suspention im wirebrushing the whole thing down and painting it and the bag i will be using is a re-8

[pearl91chevy]

everything was going to good lol.. i welded the bracket on the bed for the bag and realized im running into some clearance issues.. theres not enough space to make a bracked unless i make it from the inside of the frame for the bag to rest on.. then also if i do that then the exaust more then likely wont clear or it will be so close the heat will cause a hole.. any suggestions?

[pearl91chevy]

my welding teacher got the other side brackets made and i got them welded in just a bit ago.. ill have to pics of that but im still stuck on the bottem bag bracket... im thinkin im gonna have to take the cat. out and put my muffler with 2 turn downs in its spot..

[pearl91chevy]

Alright guys.. sorry i didnt really update to much over the weekend, i was super busy with this.. well the good news ITS TILTING ON ITS OWN POWER .. i still need to find a better welder but the welds i got on there are holding ok, ill get more pics when its sunny out considering i finished it last night around 9ish..
Heres the truck friday afternoon without the airbag.. but i will get more pics when i get home this afternoon


The drivers side brackets
Got them in place here and the tops are bent outward
The bracket for the bag-to-frame
AND FINNALY THE BED TILTING BY THE BAG!!

[pearl91chevy]

i still got to notch out the passenger side brackets that the bed tilts on.. once i do that the bed will tilt ALOT more

[pearl91chevy]

just a few more pics here...hopefully the welds are gonna be alot cleaner looking this friday.. casue i kno there hidious

[jman]

do you have anything to keep the bed from moving when going over bumps?

[pearl91chevy]

i have rubber pieces im gonna install on the drivers side that should keep it in good place and no rattles... i will also probly drill a hole throught he drivers side brackets and through the bed support brackets so i can stick some kinda pin through so when i go on the long trips it wont be bouncing all over

[1cool_race10]

looks good

[Twisted Minis]

Pretty cool.

Cleaning the rust off the frame will help with your welds next time. Those look like they could be knocked off with a hammer.

[pearl91chevy]

yea there not to strong and i did grind them down before i "TRIED" to lay a weld down.. but i got the truck together last night and on the ground.. the drivers front corner is up higher then the backpart so were tryin to figure something out without using another bag..

[downtoearth]

*CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISISM*

Cut off the...or break off rather, the bag bracket and try again, it will break soon!

[pearl91chevy]

i kno i kno its gonna go, im not gonna air it up anymore till its welded on fully this friday

[sakustoms]

lookin good so far. I like the idea but I agree, def. make sure all your welds are extra strong. You don't want this breaking off. Especially if it's up and someone has their head under it..

[JACKEL]

I would gusset the top side of this bracket to the frame also. The position of your bag is cantilevering a lot of weight with retrospect to that bracket.

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[Lays Low]

so ur gonna stucture up the bed a bit more so that it wont flex and get and even lift. i think another bag would be a waste of money. either that or center the bag under the bed. but looks good so far. glad u are willing to redo it and not just leave it when u arent happy with it.

[pearl91chevy]

alright thanks for the suggestion

[JACKEL]

Quote: Originally Posted by pearl91chevy

alright thanks for the suggestion

Come to think about it. Where is your exhaust? Gotta think that the exhaust runs real close to there. Might need to make your self a small heat shield for the bag. Heat might not be too big a issue when driving but radiant heat while idling for a while or in city traffic and BOOM, that bag is gonna shred or blister.

[pearl91chevy]

Quote: Originally Posted by NickZigaitis

Come to think about it. Where is your exhaust? Gotta think that the exhaust runs real close to there. Might need to make your self a small heat shield for the bag. Heat might not be too big a issue when driving but radiant heat while idling for a while or in city traffic and BOOM, that bag is gonna shred or blister.

that was one of my concerns when doing this.. im just gotta take the cat. out and put the muffler in its place.. the cat. is old and is starting to rattle anyways

[pearl91chevy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lays Low

so ur gonna stucture up the bed a bit more so that it wont flex and get and even lift. i think another bag would be a waste of money. either that or center the bag under the bed. but looks good so far. glad u are willing to redo it and not just leave it when u arent happy with it.

the problem with the bag in the middle is the suspention will hit it considering the drop i have, and then also how low i got to mount it on the frame to have the bed level, it just wouldnt clear.. my weldering teaching whos helpin me out greatly in this is bring some heavy duty struts maybe today and were hopin it will even the bed out when it lifts..

[Lays Low]

sounds good, i have all my parts for my tilt bed sitting in my garage, havent done a thing yet. i have some pneumatic cylinders for it. just working on a locking mechanism something like the bear claw latches on shaved doors i was thinking about grabs the bed and pulls it in a lil tighter.

[pearl91chevy]

what are u using on the side the bed lays down on to hold it down? i think im just gonna drill holes on the drivers side mounts through the bed mounts and when i decided i want to hold it down im gonna get some pins and stick through, something like hood pins.. cause i dont want to be goin down I90 and my bed is rattling like hell

[pearl91chevy]

alright well yesturday i froze my ass off drivin to my auto class with no door windows.. the weather here is unbelievable, i think the windchill is -25 right now.. but anyways we re-welded "ALL" the brackets for the tilt bed and then also the bag bracket connected to the frame is now beefed up.. the frame will bend before that bracket now.. also while the bed was off i welded up my replacement brackets underneith the bed.. i should have some pics later today

[pearl91chevy]

Alright this baby is tuckin 15's lol.. as i said all the brackets have been re-welded.. dont dis on my welds i kno there not good lol.. i stood in the bed while the bag was aired and it had no problem holding me, Im 165lbs..




My welding teacher had this idea for puttin the plate from the bracket to the frame and its def working and yes he welded it.. hopefully one day i can weld like that..
and this is the air plans for it..

[pearl91chevy]

i was gonna order my air parts yesturday but the suicidedoors site hasnt been working.. i need 2 tee valves, 2 3/8 elec valves and maybe a few other things.. i still havent decided where i wanna mount my tank though

[Myst]

hey let me ask ...I saw you wrote you used flat stock to be in a 2x2 form ...than I could just use that correct and notch out not as much as for it to fit correctly right?? ...or should I just use the flat stock ...?also ...does the bed rest on the notches that are on the drivers side??...how do you make it from not moving up and down or rattling? ... also what size metal did you use ... 1/8" ..3/16"..1/4"? ...thanks man

[pearl91chevy]

alright.. i just had flat stock and formed them to 2x sqaure pieces.. i just got a 2" by 2" bottem and then cut pieces and welded them onto that so it was a perfect square.. i used 3/16 just cause i want that stuff to bring really strong and wont break and get crappy after a while of using.. idk about the size of your bed brackets becasue on mine, i have the replacment bed mounts and im pretty sure there a lil wider then the original.. the bed is resting on the drivers side mounts and so far i have had "NO" rattles at all of driving it up to speeds of 55mph.. bed doesnt jump around or anything and i still havent got to it yet but my teacher gave me some thick peices of metal im gonna put on the bed mounts just to i wont have metal on metal scraping.. as for the long trips im gonna drill holes and put some kinda pin through the brackets of the bed mounts and the frame mounts to hold it down when im on highway trips to shows.. i did have to notch my brackets also, thats what i did last night and its allowing it to tilt ALOT more.. i took about a inch out so now the brackets arent even close to hitting the bed brackets.. my problem is now the bag doesnt have enough height to higher it that high..

[Myst]

i dont understand 2x2 bottom??...just flat stock and welded them into 2x2?? ...i think ill just get 2x2 and see it ...and do you mean your welding teacher is going to give you rubber?? ...b/c you said no metal/metal and he's going to give you metal for that..haha ...probably just an error..ok cool thanks man ..

the tubing that has the air bag bracket that goes on the bottom of your bed...what thickeness is that ...3/16" ...how did you weld it to the floor board and everything ...isnt it really thin?? ...

thanks for the help ...I am going to bodydrop my bed in the next month and im raising the floor to do so ...so this might be helpful in it not mattering exactly where it will be set ...(that made no sense...but it did to me)..lol

[pearl91chevy]

ya.. i just used flat stock and welded them into 2x2.. sorry bout all the confusin in this.. i meant he gave me thick peices of rubber lol.. sorry..im pretty sure the bracket is made out off 1/4.. since i had the bed off.. i welded it to the bed supports or brackets, which ever and then made gussets or whatever there called just for support.. also if u need pics of anything let me know..

[Myst]

Quote: Originally Posted by pearl91chevy

ya.. i just used flat stock and welded them into 2x2.. sorry bout all the confusin in this.. i meant he gave me thick peices of rubber lol.. sorry..im pretty sure the bracket is made out off 1/4.. since i had the bed off.. i welded it to the bed supports or brackets, which ever and then made gussets or whatever there called just for support.. also if u need pics of anything let me know..

where did you put gussets for support on the bottom of the bag?? ...you mean from the bag bracket to that 2x2 piece of square tubing used?

and if you have pics of the piece under the bed and what gussets you made id really appreciate it man ...thanks

and meausre the bed support brackets to see if they are exactly 2x2...b/c if so ill just by the tubing and notch it out of that...if not than ill get the flat stock ...thanks alot man ...

[pearl91chevy]

alright ill be back in a few, ill got take pics of it all for ya

[pearl91chevy]

ok.. heres the best i could get
this is what they look like without being on the truck..
then here they are measured

and i think this is what u wanted.. not sure, its the bag bracket that connects to the frame of the truck
also just found this.. this is the side the bed tilts on, the outside part of the brackets i just notched last night since there was clearance problems and it wasnt allowing the bed to tilt fully, i only took about a inch out and it raised it hella lot.

[pearl91chevy]

Also been out there in the freezing shaving the gas door

[pearl91chevy]

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[Myst]

yours going to fully weld the gas door right??

and thanks alot for the pics ...but the pic I really wanted was a pic of the underside of the bed of the air bag bracket...not the one on the frame ...if you cant get it thats fine I just wanted an idea of how yours looked...thanks

[pearl91chevy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Myst

yours going to fully weld the gas door right??

and thanks alot for the pics ...but the pic I really wanted was a pic of the underside of the bed of the air bag bracket...not the one on the frame ...if you cant get it thats fine I just wanted an idea of how yours looked...thanks

the gas door will be fully welded and i still need to finish it a bit.. i cant get a pic of the bracket under the bed really... since u said u need a pic of the gusset.. its pretty much the same as the one of the frame, but there is only "1" gusset in the middle instead of 2 on the sides

[Myst]

aweesome ...thanks man

[Hammrshell]

great build up so far!

[pearl91chevy]

i cant believe how quick things are going.. i got the other side of the bed down to bare metal and havent found any rust and then also FINNALY found a spot to mount my tank.. its not fully in place casue i got to get some better bolts and nuts but thats pretty much the spot